Barry Bonds is the DEVIL!!!

Could the devil ice-skate? I think not!

I could never play hockey. I've tried. I can ice skate, but it's not good, you know? I play hockey in the wintertime with (actor, game-show host) Alan Thicke. Me and my family. We do. We go down to the ice skating rink, all of us. Funny thing, I'd never seen my son skate, and he beat all of us.

Question: (The Pirates) are doing a tribute for you. What do you think about that?

Bonds: I think it's nice. That's the team that gave me my first shot, the team that drafted me.

No Barry, the Giants drafted you in the second round of the 1982 MLB draft as a high school senior, but the Giants and you were unable to agree on contract terms, so you decided to attend ASU.

2007 PECOTA: .267/.441/.535, 12 HRs, 51 BBs, 3 SBs = 29.9 VORP

2007 ZIPS: .269/.464/.539, 21 HRs, 102 BBs, 3 SBs

2007 Actuals to date: .281/.498/.585, 24 HRs, 118 BBs, 5 SBs = 50.1 VORP (tied for 9th in MLB)

RC/27 for the 4 MLB position players over age 40:

Barry Bonds: 10.84 (#1 in MLB)
Kenny Lofton: 5.87
Craig Biggio: 3.96
Omar Vizquel: 3.16

ok srsly - what is "rc/27"???

do u no hoo bill jamez iz?

runs created per 27 outs

ie how many runs a lineup of Barry clones would score per game.

Apparently, Bonds was removed from the game yesterday after loafing on a fly ball and was not pleased about it.

Wait, Bonds didn't homer again?

(0-1, 2 runs scored).

Fuck this guy. I am trading Reggie Stocker off of my team in The Show as soon as I get home.

lols at 9 Craig Biggios scoring 4 per game.

I always want Reggie Stocker but his salary is so prohibitive.

i play in steinbrenner mode (salaries disabled)

Do you just stock your team with the best of the best, or players you dig?

There are some good steals to have who don't command high salaries:

Ortiz
Sizemore
Hafner
Howard

the pitching gets out of hand real quick so I usually draft all SPs.

The Slowing of Barry Bonds?

career average 1986-2006:
games played: 136
on-base percentage: .443
slugging average: .608
ab/hr: 12.95

2007 estimates:
games played: 137
on-base percentage: .495
slugging average: .608
ab/hr: 11.25

obviously fielding is the only part of his game that's vulnerable to immobility.

what are your fielding stastics of choice, Dr. Morbius?

just using my eyes, the Atlanta way!

o i c.

I'm curious, Steve, what fielding statistics do you have that indicates that Barry's an improved fielder over the course of the last year. Cuz FRAA has him at a dismal -10 and his Revised Zone Rating is .834 which is basically better than Chris Duncan and Adam Dunn and not much else.

No way he has to be better than Cliff Floyd, Luis Gonzalez and Pat Burrell... the last thing I looked at (HardballTimes I think?) had him in the top 10 LFs in MLB. I'm not saying that's an improvement over the automatic write-in Gold Glove vote, I just think the Morbiusian mainstream media view has never been put to a test (because of the nebulousness of defensive stats?)

Would it be too much to focus on the fact that his 2007 offensive metrics are tracking at/above his career #s! Or is that less interesting than his defensive FRAA?

shit "10 LFs in MLB" where MLB = NL

He's 13 out of 19 on Hardballtimes list of LF for the MLB on RZR (not sure what their cut off is--Floyd isn't even on the list.) You are correct that Gonzalez and Burrell are even worse by RZR (and Manny is even even worse than that apparently) but by no means is Bonds an impressive defensive LF anymore and he was a pretty strong one by most statistical metrics when he was young.

His offensive year is indisputably very impressive. Pity the Giants surrounded him with nonsense.

Record-breaking Bonds ball nets $752,467

John Wildermuth, Chronicle Staff Writer

Saturday, September 15, 2007

(09-15) 18:58 PDT Mission Viejo, Orange County -- The winning bid on Saturday night for Giant slugger Barry Bonds' record-breaking 756th shot was $752,467, well above expectations, while the shot to tie Hank Aaron's career home run record sold for $186,750.

The prices included the required 20 percent buyer's premium, which were added to the final bid. There were a total of 11 bids on home run ball number 755, which Bonds hit in San Diego on Aug. 4, and 31 bids on the tie-breaker.

The final price for 755 was only slightly below the $200,000 many memorabilia experts expected.

But the big prize was the record-breaker, and bidders had their checkbooks out for the ball that Matt Murphy, a contract supervisor from New York, plucked out of the stands at AT&T Park on Aug. 7.

A slow start to the bidding, which began Aug. 28, had naysayers suggesting that Bonds' links to baseball's steroid scandal, as well as his less-than-sunny personality, would keep the price of the record-breaking ball down. But the bidding took off Saturday and the ball more than doubled in price, soaring above the $500,000 experts expected it to bring.

Bids for the ball had reached $301,625 by the 1 p.m. end of the initial phase of the online auction.

But in the world of big bucks, online auctions, that's little more than a starting point for the effort to squeeze every possible dollar out of the object up for bid.

Anyone who cast one of 16 bids in the first part of the auction was allowed to jump back in and boost the offer in the extended auction, which continued until 3 p.m.

But even that didn't mark the end. Under rules set by Sotheby's-SCP Auctions, the Mission Viejo auction house, the bidding continued after 3 p.m., going on until no one increased the offer for at least 30 minutes. Each time a new bid was made, that 30-minute countdown clock was reset.

The clock ran down to seven seconds at 4:20 p.m., when a bidder jumped in with an offer of $467, 918, $22,000 more than the previous high bid. At 6 p.m., there was about a minute left when a bid for $627,056 was recorded.

There was a lot less suspense for home run ball No. 755, which tied Aaron's record. There was only a single winning bid made after the 3 p.m. close, one of 11 offers.

The estimates for the record-breaking ball were well below the $1 million that Heritage Auction Galleries originally offered well before Bonds' record-shattering blast. But the company withdrew that offer in June, citing concerns about the safety of fans scrambling for the ball and the company's potential liability.

Many memorabilia dealers believe the really big price will be for Bonds' final home run. That ball will represent baseball's career home run record, which for Bonds is now at 762 and counting.

When it comes to sports records, however, there are never guarantees. When St. Louis Cardinal Mark McGwire shattered the single-season home run record by slamming 70 in 1998, cartoonist Todd McFarlane paid $3 million for the ball, figuring the record could stand as long as the one Roger Maris set in 1961.

Bad call. Three years later, Bonds hit 73 home runs, breaking the record and sending the value of McGwire's ball plummeting.

justin (ny, ny): I hear bonds talking about how he wants to play next year, but is there any team willing to sign him? What do you think will happen?

Jayson Stark: (1:34 PM ET ) Here's my team to watch on that front: Texas.

any of you sabermetricly inclined financial whizzes want to post estimates on:

1) club he plays for next year
2) more importantly, salary?

bonds to red sox oh plzzzzzzzz

2 problems there:
1) David Ortiz
2) Manny Ramirez

i mean i know id be the last brick in the sox are basically the yankees now house but i dont care bring on baaaaaarrrry

im not really looking at this from a logical pov

imagine the crazy lovable/douche juxtaposition if ortiz/bonds hit back to back

Doesn't Barry hate Boston? Sry jhose. ;_;

barry hates all - he is a hateful man

boston media + bonds = match made in heaven

would the Sox move Manny if they could sign A-Rod and Barry this winter? hahahaha

oh dear god how i would love to see bonds with boston next year

but what's his salary this year? 15.8MM? what's the lowest offer he might take in 2008 that doesn't bruise his ego too much?

it wasn't 20M this year?

How about 8 + incentives?

The Tigers have used something like 10 left fielders this year and could benefit in '08 from cutting the number down to three or four. But hey, like a couple writers in Detroit have said, Bonds' best years are behind him and he hasn't even hit 30 HRs this year. He is paid to hit home runs, after all. (And besides, with a .483 OBP he is clearly a base clogger.)

Last 8 hours to vote on the 756 Ball's fate!

http://www.vote756.com/marcecko/

if space doesnt win ill be really disappointed

D) Place in high-speed pitching machine, shoot it off my face.

ooh - i like that one!

it wasn't 20M this year?

How about 8 + incentives?

-- Dr Morbius, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:19 PM (5 hours ago)

it was $15.8 plus $5 in incentives (based on criteria which his agent says he easily surpassed).

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/09/26/sports/baseball/ecko.190.jpg

yeah i voted brand. though it really should be six or seven brands, so if it ever makes it to a display case, the hof can't obscure it

where's that Gaylord Perry-Whitey Ford-Don Sutton brand?

boooooring come on space space is an awesome place.

apparently the hall can agreed to not obscure the brand in any way

has agreed

that sucks, i guess Bonds will be taking all of his gear back from the HOF....