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― mookieproof, Monday, 17 March 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
really, what are the odds he can improve via ANY change in approach?
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link
well look the guy didn't even crack 100 ribbies and 27 dingers is nothing special. those are raul ibanez numbers. nice walk total, but hey where's the clutch? #teamjeter
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link
I didn't watch too many angels games but I assume trout had a shitload of games batting behind such on base threats as eric aybar and alberto callaspo
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
Dave Fleming's predictions--you'll all love the #1.
http://www.billjamesonline.com/50_fearless_forecasts_2014/
― clemenza, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 23:24 (ten years ago) link
It's been a good long while since someone really had a shot at hitting .400. This guy is so good, if Trout made a run at .400 I think the media will go nuts.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link
lol come on trout is 90 out of 140 in K%, improving by 2 points isn't really close to enough
(in 1941 williams had a 4.5 K%, hit more homers than trout probably will and had about a similar BABIP)
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link
MLB Play Index @BRefPlayIndex 3h#Angels Manager Mike Scioscia had 307 strikeouts in 1,441 career games as a player; #Angels MVP Mike Trout has 305 strikeouts in 336 games.
― mookieproof, Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:20 (ten years ago) link
izzat supposed to be a counterpoint or a fun fact
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 20 March 2014 00:46 (ten years ago) link
fun fact
― mookieproof, Thursday, 20 March 2014 01:42 (ten years ago) link
the game done changed
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 13:42 (ten years ago) link
six years, $144.5m?
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 March 2014 02:45 (ten years ago) link
free agent at 28 ffs
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 March 2014 02:46 (ten years ago) link
Yet another transaction made strictly for David Cameron's amusement.
"If he's happy, good for him."
BIG if, amirite?
― Andy K, Saturday, 29 March 2014 04:42 (ten years ago) link
just read about this, it had to be done. i know he is a happy guy.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 29 March 2014 04:51 (ten years ago) link
Seems like a great deal for him - he leaves ~$30mn on the table for three free agent years while guaranteeing that if something catastrophic happens he's set, and will still be in position for 12 years/$400mn (or whatever inconceivable number salary inflation has reached) after that.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 29 March 2014 05:33 (ten years ago) link
cameron's a nut tbh
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 March 2014 06:29 (ten years ago) link
@robneyerHey let's make a list of the DUMBEST baseball players! Starting with silly Mike Trout and addle-minded Dustin Pedroia!
@robneyerAlso, in addition to not understanding how you CRITICIZE a player for agreeing to be paid $140 million ...
@robneyer... I don't understand why people so obsessed with who makes what, who makes the most, etc. At this point dollars are practically the same.
@robneyeralso I just learned on Twitter that $140 million does not constitute "a huge payday."
― Andy K, Saturday, 29 March 2014 14:05 (ten years ago) link
Brian Bannister is on Twitter, btw.
@RealBanny@DCameronFG He just secured more money than many HOF players made in their entire careers combined. The game has changed a lot #perspective
― Andy K, Saturday, 29 March 2014 14:09 (ten years ago) link
I officially give up trying to weigh these contracts. My first thought on Trout was that, in light of Cabrera, he could have gotten much, much more. (Because really, who can get by on $140 million?) But yes, this frees him up for a zillion dollars when he's 28.
― clemenza, Saturday, 29 March 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
This young man will just have to learn how to save up to get something really nice for himself.
― Andy K, Saturday, 29 March 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
neyer otm
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:04 (ten years ago) link
i really don't think people should write these sorts of dumb columns about how much money he COULD make unless they were gonna talk about all the ways to uniquely use that money, like "buy a koch brother" or "how many islands"
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
"at this point, only trout's great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren are set for life. but if he just held out a bit longer, his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren and maybe even his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren could've also been set for life"
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:07 (ten years ago) link
"how will trout's legacy last centuries into the nuclear wasteland human extinction era if he takes his payday now? his money won't even have a chance to lose all symbolic value!"
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:09 (ten years ago) link
lol otm
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
i think it's fair to wonder as an exercise how much money trout could have gotten... it's not like it's something that agents and players don't think about?
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:06 (ten years ago) link
i don't think "mike trout just signed for less money than jacoby ellsbury" is a facile point
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
Normally I don't care about the money end at all, but with Trout and Cabrera signing a couple of days apart--it's almost like a private joke they worked out between themselves--comparisons are inevitable.
― clemenza, Saturday, 29 March 2014 18:30 (ten years ago) link
Congrats to the Angels, by the way.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 29 March 2014 22:24 (ten years ago) link
Less money than Ellsbury isn't a good comparison, nor is Cabrera's contract. Arbitration wasn't going to pay him $20mn per.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 30 March 2014 07:54 (ten years ago) link
well fortunately i got mlb.tv to work just in time for that opening blast
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 02:30 (ten years ago) link
mmm, precious rbis
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 02:33 (ten years ago) link
Footage of him running around the stadium with his younger cousins before the contract signing press conference was kind of adorable
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 02:52 (ten years ago) link
TROUT
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 04:16 (ten years ago) link
did he do something else or are you just now responding to the HR please keep things up to date in the mike trout thread
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 04:31 (ten years ago) link
don't think so, just got home and saw he homered in his first AB
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 04:32 (ten years ago) link
HE JSUT GOT A SINGLE HE IS SO GOOD
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 04:35 (ten years ago) link
Dave Cameron: I think making life decisions that involve intentionally taking less money than possible are generally as a positive character trait. On the other hand, one could argue that Trout had some responsibility to help elevate the pay scale for those that come after him. It depends on your perspective.
what
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 April 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link
Fuck this guy. I am trading him off of my team in MLB 14: The Show as soon as I get home.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
dave cameron needs to get out of his parents' basement, etc. etc.
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 2 April 2014 23:41 (ten years ago) link
dave cameron is a good baseball writer, just for the record
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
trout has a responsibility to the future once in a generation talents who FUCKING SHATTER all arb records that came before them. ok thanks comrade dave cameron.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link
How is MBT: TS 14?
― Bringing the mosh (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 3 April 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link
i am bored so i just clocked trout's time around the bases on his triple last night, from contact until he slid into third, and got 11.6. that's really fast, right?
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
very sad MLB TS 14 for PS4 doesn't come out for another month, I won't be able to rig a bullshit trade between the Angels and Giants for Trout for 27 more days.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link
that dave cameron point is weird, i don't think he believes that
dave cameron is also the best baseball writer on the planet
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link
he's alright, he is just really weird about money things and gets totally anchored down by fangraphs' trademarks, ie using fWAR as an unquestioned be-all end-all thing that never really requires any further analysis beyond the x.x figure. which isn't surprising, he's gotta support the company product, but it's annoying. and in his chats he comes off as possibly the most humorless and irritable human being in the world (and every answer essentially boils down to "just look at the fWAR figure/look at what ZiPS projects the fWAR figure to be")
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:00 (ten years ago) link
that said, this fangraphs article is a fun read that will try to convince you that mike trout will either die horribly or end up as one of the 5 greatest hitters of all time. amazing thing is it doesn't even begin to consider position/defense/baserunning, just pure offense.
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Thursday, 3 April 2014 23:01 (ten years ago) link
you're referring to the one that deals in cumulative standard deviations, right? yeah that line near the end where he (not dave cameron, it was another writer) was like "remember, trout could die in a plane crash tomorrow" or something to that effect was like...ok man you don't really need to cover ALL the bases
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Friday, 4 April 2014 02:36 (ten years ago) link