i mean i love machado believe me, but obviously the angels laugh and hang up the phone in a second when they get that call
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 December 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link
these trade ideas are meant to be insane - you guys realize that, right?!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 20 December 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link
yeah i realized that as i went further down haha
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 December 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link
kk u realize before he came up defense wasn't even considered his strong suit? league average hitting at age 21 is special
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Friday, 20 December 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
not as special as say mike trout but there's also his defense and kevin gausman, who is a prospect like any other
tbf i do not know who kevin gausman is, but he's a PITCHING PROSPECT ffs
― k3vin k., Friday, 20 December 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
lol i love the abstract over-exaggeration of tinstaapp being stretched into "there is literally no worth in a starting pitcher who isn't playing major league ball yet", been happening a lot lately
― my whole family is catholic so look at the pickle i'm in (zachlyon), Friday, 20 December 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link
I think the point is its MIKE TROUT ffs. There is no trade scenario that doesn't get a GM laughed at.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Friday, 20 December 2013 02:47 (ten years ago) link
pittsburgh could do it, just send mccutchen, cole, alvarez, sidney crosby, evgeni malkin, mario lemieux, and the steelers franchise to LA
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Friday, 20 December 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
sidney crosby is basically the real life charlie from mighty ducks, this deal is destined to happen
― I've Seen rRootage (Will M.), Friday, 20 December 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
Throw in an autographed Clemente jersey, and maybe.
― clemenza, Friday, 20 December 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
Has Gausman passed Dylan Bundy?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
no
― mookieproof, Saturday, 21 December 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/07/obama-compares-the-farm-bill-to-mike-trout
― mookieproof, Monday, 10 February 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link
Extension? that pays him $38 M for 2019?
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/2/23/5439770/mike-trout-angels-contract-extension-rumors
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 February 2014 12:27 (ten years ago) link
the way baseball salaries are inflating, that wouldn't be that insane
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 February 2014 15:30 (ten years ago) link
no – but you would expect some kind of discount (or - jesus - *is* that a discount?!)
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:24 (ten years ago) link
well maybe not if the deal is backloaded that much. I am a Trout believer, but ya never know.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:37 (ten years ago) link
fangraphs has him worth $45m and $52m over the past few years... so he's still guaranteed to be vastly underpaid even in the first 3 or 4 years of that extension
even assuming his play comes down he'll prob be getting fair value even at $38m
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
that said i bet there's no way the parameters of that rumored deal are actually true
i'm sure it will be like most every deal with slight increases of a few million a year over the life of the contract
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:51 (ten years ago) link
the angels aren't really getting a discount but then again trout is an unprecedented player
i guess they're giving themselves some security against him putting up another 10 WAR season and rightfully demanding like $250 million
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 February 2014 16:52 (ten years ago) link
it's just money tbf, the angels have plenty of it iirc
― k3vin k., Monday, 24 February 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
well, there's still A-Rod...
― frogbs, Monday, 24 February 2014 17:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah but what part of makes trout unprecedented is not just his skill level but his place in baseball history, in this case meaning a time in which players frequently sell arbitration and FA years many years in advance
there's just no real example to go off with trout. it's uncharted waters (lol). we basically have freddie freeman, clayton kershaw aaand maybe ryan braun as examples but that's really trying to jam a square peg into a round hole
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 February 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
that's what i was thinking – this is like the Freeman ext except instead of dealing with a good player, this guy is elite. i think Freddie is a great player and locking him long term was p smart, but i was still surprised at the dollar numbers he secured.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 February 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link
http://mlb.si.com/2014/02/24/mike-trout-what-is-he-really-worth
― mookieproof, Monday, 24 February 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link
BP's Daniel Rathman:
"With an average annual value of $36.5 million in the free-agent years, the Angels would be paying Trout to be about a six-win player down the road—a strong bet, considering that he’s been worth 8.3 and 9.6 WARP in his first two big-league seasons. Trout would get $12 million (the bulk of it in the form of a $10 million signing bonus) to play with in 2014, and the Angels wouldn’t face the steepest outlays until Josh Hamilton’s deal expires after the 2017 season. Trout and Albert Pujols would cost owner Arte Moreno a combined $65 million in 2018 and $66 million in 2019, when the former’s hypothetical pact would expire."
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 February 2014 22:28 (ten years ago) link
If he signs the extension he would still be a FA at 28 which is more or less the ideal age for getting a long-term megacontract.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 09:20 (ten years ago) link
what the fuck do these people do with any of their money over like 20 million idgi
― a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:22 (ten years ago) link
if trout took a like 20/300 deal everyone would be like "wow how shitty for him" but what is 300 million dollars what does that mean
― a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 02:23 (ten years ago) link
respeck, knuckles
i mean i hear u cluckin, but there is that much money in the game now and he probably deserves it more than arte moreno
isn't it amazing that pro sports teams demand public money for their stadiums?
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link
i know that at a certain point individual wealth is usually just about competition (a-rod needing to be the highest-paid player lol) i guess i just get annoyed when fans buy into it just as much like it really matters if there's a 3 or a 4 in front of trout's contract
ppl saying things like "he'd be a fool to take a contract now" should probably take a step back for a second. the entire concept of MLB contracts is a bizarre upside-down world and freddy garcia's made $53 million
― a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 03:27 (ten years ago) link
when someone asks me how many millions 1 WAR is worth now i tell them they're capitalist pigs and stab them in the throat
― a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 03:29 (ten years ago) link
you are basically otm
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 03:31 (ten years ago) link
i actually feel like if i got $50 million but could have easily have gotten $150 million i would be secretly mad for a while
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 06:13 (ten years ago) link
^^ this, it's an $8B pie and you have to divide it up somehow. If you figure that the players are entitled to half of baseball's income and Mike Trout is the best of the 700-odd players in that pool, then $200M or more is a fair number. When you think about it like an hourly or per game wage as if it was a regular job then it never seems to make sense.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 09:15 (ten years ago) link
do the players get half of baseball's income?
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
trout will make $1m this season
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
poor bb
― a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Thursday, 27 February 2014 01:15 (ten years ago) link
he is the Neck of Baseball
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 27 February 2014 01:21 (ten years ago) link
http://instagram.com/p/jM9MVyJtbl/
wow
― k3vin k., Thursday, 27 February 2014 18:26 (ten years ago) link
pfft i could do that if i was mike trout
― a commentary on self-absorbed youth culture in the social media age (zachlyon), Friday, 28 February 2014 02:14 (ten years ago) link
5 rbi today #countingstats
― mookieproof, Friday, 28 February 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/45119/oh-my-mike-trout-may-get-even-better
Hopefully not Alfredo Griffin aggressive. I'm sure he's thought this through.
― clemenza, Monday, 17 March 2014 03:14 (ten years ago) link
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bi8ANYaCQAAlmvU.png
― mookieproof, Monday, 17 March 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
really, what are the odds he can improve via ANY change in approach?
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:31 (ten years ago) link
well look the guy didn't even crack 100 ribbies and 27 dingers is nothing special. those are raul ibanez numbers. nice walk total, but hey where's the clutch? #teamjeter
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 17 March 2014 17:35 (ten years ago) link
I didn't watch too many angels games but I assume trout had a shitload of games batting behind such on base threats as eric aybar and alberto callaspo
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 17 March 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link
Dave Fleming's predictions--you'll all love the #1.
http://www.billjamesonline.com/50_fearless_forecasts_2014/
― clemenza, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 23:24 (ten years ago) link
It's been a good long while since someone really had a shot at hitting .400. This guy is so good, if Trout made a run at .400 I think the media will go nuts.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 23:54 (ten years ago) link