I agree--after a moment's thought, I realized I was doing the kind of nitpicking I hate. Also, Fernandez made up so much ground the last month, credit to the voters for not freezing the vote in August.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:16 (twelve years ago)
not that fernandez's season wasn't historic, of course. but puig had a pretty insane season (or 2/3 of a season) too, 4th in the majors in wRC+
― twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:20 (twelve years ago)
The interesting question is, in light of how mercurial Puig's season was, and weighing that against how much of a roll of the dice young pitchers are, who would you rather have going forward? Puig's about a year-and-a-half older.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:28 (twelve years ago)
definitely puig, mostly because he plays every day and like you said is less of a gamble than a young pitcher. he's not just going to forget how to hit, and his walk rate showed a pretty steady improvement over the course of the summer. i feel pretty good about him being a star
― twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:33 (twelve years ago)
also he's got so much defensive talent, i think once he grows up and settles down a bit he'll be a definite plus in the field
― twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:34 (twelve years ago)
Didn't realize Grant Brisbee had a column on that question just today:
http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/11/11/5090124/rookie-of-the-year-yasiel-puig-jose-fernandez-wil-myers
Will second this: "Still, never pick the pitcher. Although it's really, really tempting in this case."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:55 (twelve years ago)
ok i'll take jose
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 05:00 (twelve years ago)
If "going forward" means the next ten years, I'd take Puig, but if it's the next five years (i.e. until free agency) I would probably take Fernandez. Great pitchers are a lot harder to find and develop.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 07:19 (twelve years ago)
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LOLOLOLOLOL
― action bronson pinchot (sanskrit), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 13:25 (twelve years ago)
http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/12/30/5256988/yasiel-puig-arrested-speeding-florida
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 13:41 (twelve years ago)
i wonder what Puig has to do that moralizing will be permitted by Rob Neyer.
― bnw, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 13:55 (twelve years ago)
Content!
― Andy K, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/28/reckless-driving-charges-dropped-against-yasiel-puig
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 20:56 (twelve years ago)
fat?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rbaly79/12244900933/
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 February 2014 19:53 (twelve years ago)
3 hits and still 'controversial'
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/story/_/id/10658691/los-angeles-dodgers-manager-don-mattingly-upset-yasiel-puig-field-behavior
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 23 March 2014 16:33 (twelve years ago)
If you go back to the beginning of this thread, you seemed to be one of the skeptics.
― clemenza, Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:29 (twelve years ago)
skeptical of what?
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 March 2014 04:30 (twelve years ago)
That he's for real--you seem to be throwing cold water on the idea. Maybe I misinterpreted.
― clemenza, Monday, 24 March 2014 12:18 (twelve years ago)
i was skeptical that he was God
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 March 2014 12:39 (twelve years ago)
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10733609/let-cut-yasiel-puig-some-slack-young-man-antics
― surfbort memes get played out, totally (k3vin k.), Monday, 7 April 2014 03:31 (twelve years ago)
The emigration of Puig.... more complex than the 30-second version.
Puig’s journey, according to claims made in court documents and detailed in interviews, had been underwritten by a small-time crook in Miami named Raul Pacheco, an air-conditioning repairman and recycler who was on probation for attempted burglary and possession of a fake ID. Pacheco had allegedly agreed to pay the smugglers $250,000 to get Puig out of Cuba; Puig, after signing a contract, would owe 20 percent of his future earnings to Pacheco. They were not the first to employ this scheme, a version of which has catapulted many of baseball’s new Cuban millionaires to American shores. It is usurious and expedient, illicit and tolerated. Even if you are as freakishly gifted as Yasiel Puig, there is no humanitarian boat lift delivering you to Chavez Ravine.
Every time the smugglers picked up their satellite phone to call Miami, though, Pacheco seemed unable or unwilling to meet their demands. It was unclear whether he was stiffing the smugglers or whether the smugglers were gouging him. For every day of nonpayment, they upped Puig’s price by $15,000 or $20,000. The calls between Mexico and Florida grew furious. The days turned to weeks. Holed up in that dump of a motel, all four migrants in the same dank room, Puig was so close to the prize—now was not the time to lose faith—and yet having just been liberated, his fate was never more out of his hands. The defector had become a captive.
“I don’t know if you could call it a kidnapping, because we had gone there voluntarily, but we also weren’t free to leave,” said the boxer, Yunior Despaigne, who had known Puig from Cuba’s youth sports academies. “If they didn’t receive the money, they were saying that at any moment they might give him a machetazo”—a whack with a machete—“chop off an arm, a finger, whatever, and he would never play baseball again, not for anyone.”
http://www.lamag.com/features/2014/4/13/escape-from-cuba-yasiel-puigs-untold-journey-to-the-dodgers/print
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:56 (twelve years ago)
Aside from the really dumbass way this whole defection "embargo"/ charade has to get done, a lot of Puig's innocence /danger traits remind me of Ruth stories (with the immigrant culture shock layered over them).
also, a stooge and devil:
Puig discovered the round-the-clock comforts of Denny’s, returning day after day for steak and eggs. Flipping channels, he stumbled upon the Three Stooges and spent hours nyuck-nyuck-ing himself silly....On June 3, 2013, a year after setting foot in this country, Puig found himself in the Dodgers lineup for the first time. He wore the number 66 on his jersey, the whimsy of clubhouse manager Mitch Poole, who thought Puig, with his frenetic ways, was “kind of like the Tasmanian Devil.”
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:55 (twelve years ago)
the guy who wrote this article was on Kevin and Bean (KROQ's morning show) and sure was interesting what has and is happening to this guy.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 03:08 (twelve years ago)
he's on yesterday's BPcast too
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23311
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 05:58 (twelve years ago)
just half-assed a fly ball, dropped it, threw to second for a force out
― mookieproof, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:26 (twelve years ago)
then made a crazy over-the-head catch running towards the wall
puig being puig
― mookieproof, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:30 (twelve years ago)
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/assets/4316357/Puig-drop.gif
http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4316373/Only-Puig.gif
― mookieproof, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:54 (twelve years ago)
I wish to sit in the RF stands when I see the Dodgers next
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:57 (twelve years ago)
4-4 with a double and a walk today
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:41 (twelve years ago)
and got tagged out at first in the second game of the double header because he 'turned toward second'
http://giant.gfycat.com/UnhappyGiddyJaguar.gif
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:25 (twelve years ago)
hes 8 for 8 with 5-6 innings left to play in this one
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 2 May 2014 00:05 (twelve years ago)
can't wait to see this guy in Queens in a couple weeks
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 May 2014 03:25 (twelve years ago)
day-to-day
http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2014/5/5/5683256/daily-puig-yasiel-puig-crash-collision-dodgers
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 May 2014 15:39 (twelve years ago)
damn he went all in for that catch
― imago all the sheeple (Spottie), Monday, 5 May 2014 15:41 (twelve years ago)
bottom of the 9th, might as well
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 May 2014 15:56 (twelve years ago)
bat flip on routine flyout <3
https://vine.co/v/M6FIdl73zQ5
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 21:50 (twelve years ago)
i approve of expanding the varieties of bat flip
that was clearly a "ugh whatever who cares" flip
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 9 May 2014 05:34 (twelve years ago)
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BniBZGoIMAAemgL.jpg
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:27 (twelve years ago)
http://photos-e.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-prn/10387967_1424758794452108_1505844609_n.jpg
― mookieproof, Friday, 16 May 2014 16:07 (twelve years ago)
Really impressed by his OBP this year--19 walks
― clemenza, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:09 (twelve years ago)
(to finish that thought)...in 163 PA, .416 OBP.
― clemenza, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:11 (twelve years ago)
just threw ball hard back to the infield... after a third-out fly
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:24 (twelve years ago)
:rolleyes:
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:09 (twelve years ago)
he's just lazy is all.
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 03:07 (twelve years ago)
also 3 hits, double, walk
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 03:36 (twelve years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoLke8jCYAA0F6i.png
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:53 (twelve years ago)
roped a hr, dayum
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 22 May 2014 00:44 (twelve years ago)
is there not a 2k14 dodgers thread?
y did i not know dee gordon was tom gordons son
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 22 May 2014 00:59 (twelve years ago)
Still can't hit the damn cutoff.
http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/video/v33076229/ladnym-puig-makes-an-amazing-diving-catch/?partnerId=as_lad_20140522_24504786
― Andy K, Friday, 23 May 2014 00:42 (twelve years ago)
thank god he didn't break his wrist
― mookieproof, Friday, 23 May 2014 01:02 (twelve years ago)
Met my friend in Toronto today for Puig's debut with the Intercounty Maple Leafs. Walk, HR, HR--we figure he'll probably hit around 300 if he lasts the season. Which I really doubt he will.
First HR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPrUj6Btubs
Second HR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RCkDZG2pPQ
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2026 02:18 (three weeks ago)
#PuigYourFriend
: /
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 May 2026 02:37 (three weeks ago)