Miguel Cabrera Needs His Own Thread

Seeing a Seinfeld episode here:

Morbius: It must be a bummer for you guys, what with the fall of Joe Morgan and everything.
Clemenza: Yeah, well, we still have Heyman, and Mitch Albom too.
Morbius: Yeah, but come on...
Clemenza: I know, it's not the same.
Morbius: Well, you had a good run--what was it, 75, 100 years? Wreaking havoc, getting Jim Rice into the Hall of Fame, getting that MVP for Justin Morneau...
Clemenza (sighs): Yeah, we had a good run.

This came up on High Heat Stats today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6YzVvtxoaY

Love Palmer (I think that's who it is) watching the replay: "What is this?"

Awesome. I remember hearing about it -- maybe from here! -- but hadn't seen it.

hitting .494 on first pitches

Something I know Morbius will be tracking with great excitement over the next few years: the first-ever Decade Triple Crown.

http://www.highheatstats.com/2013/08/decade-triple-crown-category-leaders/

Obviously way too early. But you look at the ages and proximity of the people behind him on those leaderboards, you'd have to say he's got a good start. Could easily see Trout taking BA, and there's undoubtedly someone just off the leaderboards who's in good position somewhere else.

Williams pretty obviously robbed by the war though.

I made the same point in the comments. (Someone tracked Williams for '39-42/46-51, and he took HR and RBI but lost BA to Musial.)

Obviously the calendar's an artificial construct, and you have to catch it just right. Someone else pointed out that Pujols took all three for 2003-2012. Cabrera's prime years just happened to have coincided with a new decade.

Wait how did Williams win BA for 40-49? Musial BA seems much higher during that period and he has the requisite 2000 ABs.

Nevermind looking at the WRONG line .356 not .336.

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Miguel promised before the game that he would "hit one for Miley," and now he has.

haha

http://tracking.si.com/2013/08/29/tigers-miguel-cabrera-leaves-game-injury/?sct=hp_t2_a4

That's not going to be good for anybody.

except mike trout

Detroit Tigers star Miguel Cabrera left Thursday afternoon's game against the Oakland Athletics due to discomfort in his abdomen, the team announced.

Cabrera, who leads the majors in batting average and RBIs, suffered the injury while attempting to leg out a double in the fifth inning.

The Tigers updated Cabrera's status on their official Twitter account, announcing that the All-Star third baseman is considered day to day.

So Cabrera is in the lineup. I actually think they should shut him down for a couple of weeks. General consensus seems to be he has MVP locked up. The triple crown, some people like me care, many people don't, and his chance of catching Davis in HR seems slim anyway. More than ever, Detroit has the starting pitching to win everything. They're risking losing (or seriously diminishing) their key hitter, and at this point, to what end I'm not sure.

lasted one at-bat, looks like he aggravated his abdominal injury.

damn, give him some rest, clemenza otm

With both ESPN's SweetSpot (two sit-Cabrera posts today) and ILB bearing down on him/them, Leyland and/or Cabrera finally doing the right thing.

‏@matthewbmowery
#Tigers have scored 58 runs in the 10 games Cabrera has not started.

bench him for good

Castellanos up

Wrong thread.

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Singing "Sweet Caroline" today...Beyond the numbers, I think I've become a big Cabrera fan for the same reason I was a fan of Gwynn and Kirby: he really does seem like a big teddy bear. (While aware that two of the three had issues away from the game.)

he beat his wife

Well aware. Think that's right in my post.

i know dude

not trying to call you out, obv he has a lot of fans, but like

ask any of chris brown's fans if they think he's a 'teddy bear' and they'd probably say of course

talk about his skill and his greatness and w/e, but as soon as someone mentions anything outside of the game of baseball itself i just can't take seriously

*take it

what was the result of that case? i can't remember now, and it's not on his wiki page

I assume you're referring to Puckett. I was, and am, a fan of Kirby Puckett the baseball player, and I listed a Chris Brown song on my Top 10 a couple of years ago. Neither is an apology, excuse, or rationalization of anything they do away from a baseball diamond or recording studio. The teddy bear comment refers to the Kirby who let teammates rub his head for good luck. I still remember that guy, and was jarred and saddened to learn of the other Kirby.

Me ten minutes ago: "I'd better put in a parenthetical here, or someone will jump on and I'll get drawn into a silly argument."

But after investigators determined both Cabrera and his wife were "aggressors" in the situation, Patterson said, the first baseman was released. Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski picked Cabrera up at the station between 7:30 and 8 a.m. Saturday, he added.

http://blog.mlive.com/cutoffman/2009/10/reports_miguel_cabrera_parties.html

Chatter and a Captain Beefheart clip starts here:

Whatupdoe let's go 2009 Tigers get Miguel a lemon pączki

but as soon as someone mentions anything outside of the game of baseball itself i just can't take seriously

I think that's precisely what you did--spelling out what everyone knows anyway.

And if you don't feel like checking the old thread, these quotes are from Birmingham's police chief:

“She was the aggressor who started it even though he came home intoxicated and tried to keep the phone from her,” he said. “She proceeded to make the physical altercation first — after which he pushed her. She got scared because he's a big guy ... fear took over on her part because she had hurt him to some extent, and she called 9-1-1.”

While she clearly sounded panicked in the 9-1-1 call released to the public, Patterson said she was quite calm by the time officers arrived at the couple's house. Through an interpreter, it was eventually determined she started the physical altercation by pulling a gold chain from his neck.

“All she wanted was to have him out of the house,” he said. “That said, if we arrested her we had a 4-year-old that we certainly couldn't leave at home with an intoxicated father. We couldn't leave him alone because he was extremely agitated and intoxicated ... so we would have to arrest them both and place the child in protective services.”

yeah that's what i thought i remembered, that it was found* to be more of a domestic dispute than a "wife-beating"

*by the cops, so take that with a grain of salt i guess

Right.

yeah sorry i don't put stock in cop talk or really any of the 'official' legal stuff/announcements that come out after a celebrity gets in trouble. do put stock in the 911 recording tho.

he's back tonight, 0-for-2 so far

Don't know how that kind of decision works with a player of that stature in this day and age--if he says "I'm okay," does the manager just automatically pencil him in, or does it then depend on the manager's clout (i.e., Leyland probably has as much as any manager right now). Tonight would seem to have more to do with Scherzer than anything else. Still seems like a needless risk, especially when they're doing fine anyway.

Make that two ejections during an at-bat this season.

Cabrera's brutal September (since Aug. 27, technically--got this from SweetSpot): 23 games, .257/.382/.311, one double and one home run. In a full season, that'd be...14 extra-base hits.

It's like the Tigers should consider resting him.

That's baffled me since day one. (Being Aug. 27, I guess.) I understand that another TC was kind of sort of within reach for a time, that there's the chance of another MVP, and--what's really driving this, I suspect--that Cabrera is one of those players who, for reasons either noble or selfish or somewhere in between, likes to stay in the lineup. But the Tigers will go into the postseason with a clearly weakened lineup, and on a personal level, he's damaged, not helped, his MVP case. Again, I have no idea whether this is 100% Leyland's call.

"He's not 100 percent. He's been playing in a lot of pain. He's a real tough guy. I think if anybody knew the pain he's playing in, they probably wouldn't believe it."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9760412/2013-mlb-playoffs-miguel-cabrera-detroit-tigers-playing-lot-pain-jim-leyland-says

Oh I think we can believe it.

A stubborn myth:

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/42494/cabrera-wont-suffer-without-fielder

(I'm expecting normal decline if Cabrera's healthy, worse if he's not; Fielder won't be a factor, though, even though many will say he is.)

That last month of 2013 really put a damper on his whole year--the question of why he was playing every day, and having to watch what could have been among the greatest offensive seasons ever slip away. Much better September this year (after an up-and-down rest of the year). Here's where he'd be today if you took the first five months of 2013 and combined them with this year's September:

AB - 579
H - 211
2B - 35
3B - 1
HR - 51
TB - 403
R - 114
RBI - 148
BB - 82
BA - .364
OBP - .445
SLG - .696

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2014/10/01/cabrera-declines-playoff-share-just-want-ring/16545473/

i love the "why am i writing this" tone throughout this article facebook really wanted me to see

Not promising:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/25/dave-dombrowski-on-miguel-cabrera-its-worse-than-what-we-ever-would-have-anticipated/

sorry dave

Hey, no worries.

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