bEELZEBUD, GET TO MILWAUKEE!
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)
Comcast poll during the Cubs game: 4:1 against Bonds breaking the record. HA HA TUFF SHIT
Also: Giants plz acquire one (1) bullpen pitcher.
― David R., Thursday, 19 July 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)
I'm sure Sabean's working on getting some extremely ancient washed up closer as we speak.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 19 July 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)
Hey, Sabean got Vinnie Chulk from Toronto for Jeremy Accardo (who got the save against the Yankees and has filled in quite well for BJ Ryan out for the season).
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 19 July 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)
Hillenbrand really helped our playoff push though, come on guys!
― Belisarius, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)
Aaron his his 755th in Milwaukee 31 years ago today, with Bobby Bonds in the field at RF.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 20 July 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)
What are the odds of that Nate Silver?!
― mattbot, Friday, 20 July 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)
good stuff.
― Steve Shasta, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
Where was Bud Selig?
― Andy K, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)
If you can make it past the idiot fan with the video camera, the crowd reaction to #752 is really great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ualSr5VfhwA
― mattbot, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.silverscreentest.com/koala/eucalyptus/bud.jpg
give or take 10 years
― David R., Friday, 20 July 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)
Happy 43rd bday to BB.
In other news, Bonds' alleged mistress Kimberly Bell announced today that she is posing for Playboy and also added "He was very envious of Mark McGwire," she said from her San Jose home. "He never said that was the reason, but I know it was."
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)
Selig Will Watch Bonds Go for Record By JACK CURRY
Commissioner Bud Selig has said that he would make a decision about attending Barry Bonds’s pursuit of Hank Aaron’s career home run at an “appropriate time.” That time came on Tuesday, when Selig announced that he would be in San Francisco for the game between the Giants and the Atlanta Braves. He is expected to stay until at least Thursday.
Bonds has 753 career homers and is three shy of surpassing Aaron, who has been a close friend of Selig’s for nearly 50 years. Because Bonds has been suspected of using performance-enhancing substances, Selig had delayed in saying whether he would be in attendance for Bonds’s attempts to reach home run No. 756.
But now with Bonds so close to the record, Selig said in a statement that he would make “every attempt to attend the record setting moment.”
Selig had hinted during the All-Star Game break that he would follow Bonds by saying that he needed to do what was in the best interests of baseball.
In his statement, Selig referred to the tradition of the game and the magnitude of the record as reasons he would be with Bonds. But Selig also referenced Bonds’s legal problems in saying, “all citizens are innocent until proven guilty.” Bonds could be indicted for perjury because of his testimony four years ago in a federal investigation into a steroid distribution case.
Selig was tentatively planning to be in San Francisco for a few days. He was committed to traveling to Cooperstown, N.Y., to attend the Hall of Fame inductions of Cal Ripken Jr. and Tony Gwynn on Sunday. Selig was scheduled to be in Cooperstown by Saturday, so he will probably attend only the Giants’ games on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
If Bonds reaches 755 by Friday and is one homer away from eclipsing Aaron, Selig may adjust his schedule and stay in San Francisco for that night’s game.
Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)
Well so much for all that media bullshit...
― Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)
Took you long enough to make the common-sense call, you shyster piece of shit!
― David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)
re: Schilling blabbing about 'roids on Costas:
As for Bonds, he took the high road when asked about the Costas show – saying Costas is a “midget who knows (nothing) about baseball.” lozl
― bnw, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)
Bonds derides Costas Los Angeles Times
Thursday, July 26, 2007
Red Sox pitcher Curt Schilling, speaking to HBO's Bob Costas in a show that aired Tuesday, said the refusals of Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire to address steroids accusations are tantamount to admissions they used performance-enhancing drugs.
Bonds' response? He lashed out at Costas.
"You mean that little midget man who absolutely knows jackshit about baseball, who never played the game before?" Bonds said to a handful of reporters before Wednesday night's game. "You can tell Bob Costas what I called him."
Patrick Arnold, who created THG, the drug known as "the clear," told Costas he found it "pretty hard to believe" Bonds didn't know what he was taking.
"I've never seen the man in my entire life," Bonds said of Arnold on Wednesday. "I've never heard of the man ... never."
Schilling said on the Costas show, "If I wrote a book about Bob Costas and in that book I wrote about Bob Costas' girlfriend being on the road, and Bob Costas giving that girlfriend card-show money and I outlined your daily steroid regimen, I've got to believe your first line of defense is to sue my (butt) off."
Bonds actually did sue the authors of "Game of Shadows," The Chronicle's Mark Fainaru-Wada and Lance Williams, in March 2006, claiming they should not profit from the book because it used illegally obtained grand jury testimony, but he dropped the suit three months later.
Asked about Schilling's comments, Bonds was cryptic.
"Don't worry," he said, "my day will come."
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)
HAHAHA
― Alex in SF, Thursday, 26 July 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)
Hey I'd be interested in a recap:
* Barry admits using steroids, only he didn't know * Barry's mistress says he told her he used steroids * Jason Giambi says he got steroids from Barry's trainer (?) * The guy who invented 'The Clear' says Barry took it * Barry's head and feet grew past age 30
Are all of these true, and is there any more?
― humansuit, Thursday, 26 July 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)
Sheffield:
I'm sick of Bud Selig and Major League Baseball and the way they've been grandstanding.Barry Bonds should be the face of baseball. Instead, Bud Selig is making him the face of the steroid era. It's the most ridiculous thing ever. Why doesn't Bud Selig tell the truth? Why does he keep lying and saying he doesn't know nothing about nothing? It's a bunch of hogwash. It's a cop-out. He knew everything (about steroids) we knew.Bud Selig wants to talk about the integrity of the game? To him, the integrity of the game is how much money they make. That's how far their integrity goes. I hope Barry not only breaks the record, but shatters it. The more homers Barry hits, the better, because that'll really piss Bud Selig off.
Barry Bonds should be the face of baseball. Instead, Bud Selig is making him the face of the steroid era. It's the most ridiculous thing ever. Why doesn't Bud Selig tell the truth? Why does he keep lying and saying he doesn't know nothing about nothing? It's a bunch of hogwash. It's a cop-out. He knew everything (about steroids) we knew.
Bud Selig wants to talk about the integrity of the game? To him, the integrity of the game is how much money they make. That's how far their integrity goes. I hope Barry not only breaks the record, but shatters it. The more homers Barry hits, the better, because that'll really piss Bud Selig off.
― Andy K, Saturday, 28 July 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)
Sheffield is great sometimes. :)
― polyphonic, Saturday, 28 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)
* Barry admits using steroids, only he didn't know
Bonds admitted he took flaxseed oil orally (consistent with the clear) and that he didn't like the taste after a few times so he stopped.
* Barry's mistress says he told her he used steroids
incorrect. she said that she believes he did. they never spoke about steroids.
* Jason Giambi says he got steroids from Barry's trainer (?)
Giambi admitted taking steroids for years before he even heard of BALCO.
* The guy who invented 'The Clear' says Barry took it
No he said he believes that Bonds took it (despite never meeting or being in Bonds' presence).
* Barry's head and feet grew past age 30
yes, as is the case with most human beings.
― Steve Shasta, Monday, 30 July 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)
The part of our skull that encases our brain already achieves 63% of its mature size by the time we are born. When a person reaches his/her first birthday, the skull has taken on 88% of its mature size. And by the time you turn 10 years old, the skull has achieved 95% of its full size. From then on, it grows at a very slow rate and it reaches its full size by your mid 20's. So by the age of 17, you ought not expect much more skull growth.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 30 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)
So by the age of 17, you ought not expect much more skull growth = 1/4" (or 2 cap sizes between age 20 and 43?)
― Steve Shasta, Monday, 30 July 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)
What are you going to say if it turns out that Bonds did steroids?
― polyphonic, Monday, 30 July 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)
For the zillionth time, here are my issues with Bonds treatment by the media:
1a) The media and the majority of baseball fans think that Barry Bonds would not have hit 73 HRs or 751 HRs without the alleged use of anabolic steroids or HGH.
1b) Of the 15 admitted users in MLB history and 17 positive tests (32 players total)... only 3 of them are bonafide power hitters (ie, career slugging average of >.500): Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield and Rafael Palmeiro. If you add in Bonds based on his sealed grand jury testimony that he admitted applying a topical cream consistent with BALCO's "The Cream" for 2 weeks before stop using it because "it wasn't working" on his sore knees: than that is 4 out of 34. Including Bonds makes 11.76% of admitted/positive-tested steroid users "power hitters".
1c) If (per point #1a) steroids make you hit homeruns and give you power, why did it only help Palmeiro, Sheffield, Giambi (and Bonds)? (Caminiti and Segui only had two >.500 slugging average seasons between them).
2) Why are so many middle relievers and center fielders testing positive for steroids?
3) Jose Canseco was laughed at for his claim in his book that 50-70% of MLB players were taking steroids in the late 80s. Lyle Alzado's first steroid use was in 1967 when he attended a small Christian university in rural Iowa, hundreds of miles from any major metropolis. East Germany had been testing athletes and steroids since the late 1950s. Why should we assume that steroids in baseball began only with the home run hitters of the late 90s/early 00s?
-- Steve Shasta, Friday, July 13, 2007 8:58 AM (2 weeks ago)
― Steve Shasta, Monday, 30 July 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)
I think my head grew a little trying process that logic.
― bnw, Monday, 30 July 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)
My understanding:
1a) Everyone agrees that Bonds is naturally good anyway
1b/c) There is no statistical evidence that steroids do not make you a good power hitter
3) Bonds or the late 90s is not unique, and he or that era, should not be singled out for opprobrium.
I don't understand 2), but then I don't get baseball. I'd be grateful if someone could elaborate on that point.
― caek, Monday, 30 July 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)
fixed.
steve: "and it reaches its full size by your mid 20's" - right before the part you quoted.
i'm not picking on your boyfriend or anything, dude. i just don't think the human head is suposed to keep growing into your 30's is all!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Monday, 30 July 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)
If (per point #1a) steroids make you hit homeruns and give you power, why did it only help Palmeiro, Sheffield, Giambi (and Bonds)? (Caminiti and Segui only had two >.500 slugging average seasons between them).
Did these two improve in other ways unrelated to power hitting but that wouldn't have been predicted from their prior performance? If anyone is arguing that steroids "make you hit homeruns," they're clearly out on a limb; but arguing that they make sluggers into stronger sluggers and outfielders into faster outfielders? That's something else entirely. Clearly they people taking them expect them to have SOME effect or they wouldn't take them at all.
― Phil D., Monday, 30 July 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)
i think we all know the effect is indirect, improving rates of recovery on banged up players. if this means a middle reliever who is due to be sent to the minors get off the DL three days earlier, so be it. they can also be used to improve workout regimens, reducing the amount of rest time between intensive weight room sessions. a fatass couch potato taking steroids doesn't benefit one iota.
― sanskrit, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)
also bonds rules for what he said about perennial douche bob costas
― sanskrit, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)
Clearly they people taking them expect them to have SOME effect or they wouldn't take them at all.
Wasn't there an article on BP or some similar site where the author sought out a medical doctorb who specialized on physiology or somesuch, and the doctorb said that HGH would not enhance muscles that would be used by a baseball player (and perhaps by most athletes of any sort), and that either the HGH would only provide a placebo-like effect or at best marginal improvement that would give a player a marginal edge over his competition.
― Leee, Monday, 30 July 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)
Almost as awesome as the Costas jabs:
I like that Bonds grabbed teammate Ryan Klesko’s hunting bow Friday night, squinted an eye and scanned the room for a target. “Where’s Pedro Gomez?” he said quietly, referring to the ESPN reporter who has been tracking Bonds for more than a year.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 08:18 (eighteen years ago)
Agreed that anyone who dumps on Costas is OK by me.
― Phil D., Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)
On Costas's show, Chris Rock said "Bob, if there was a pill you could take that would get you as much money as Dan Patrick makes, you'd take it in a second." (or something to that effect)
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)
1) The evidence suggests that Bonds knowingly used steroids. That's the end of that. 2) The idea that steroids can't help you hit more home runs is not sound. It helped Grimsley pitch 5 mph faster. It helps muscles grow. Why can't it help you power the ball a few more feet? Not much difference between a fly-out and a home run in many instances, is there?
― humansuit, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)
shasta it's only going to get worse what with the broken search function directing everyone here.
hank aaron had a hammer. you have a ban hammer.
― sanskrit, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)
Vin Scully on Bonds.
I don't think I ever heard his call of Aaron's 715th (how is that possible?), but it's awesome:
Scully is famous for going silent at the right times. When Aaron hit his 715th home run, passing Babe Ruth, Scully let 26 seconds pass, allowing the crowd in Atlanta to roar. Only then did he reflect on the setting, the meaning and the times:
“What a marvelous moment for baseball. What a marvelous moment for Atlanta and the state of Georgia. What a marvelous moment for the country and the world. A black man is getting a standing ovation in the Deep South for breaking a record of an all-time idol. And it is a great moment for all of us, and particularly for Henry Aaron.”
― G00blar, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)
PITCH TO THE MAN SO HE CAN HOMER FOR FUCK'S SAKE
― David R., Thursday, 2 August 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)
AND STOP POPPING IT UP FOR FUCK'S SAKE
don't tell me Chris Berman is going to be the Voice of this home run, whenever it happens.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 2 August 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)
welcome to the record books, CLAY HENSLEY!
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 5 August 2007 03:24 (eighteen years ago)
training for strength doesn't hurt baseball players
― sanskrit, Sunday, 5 August 2007 03:27 (eighteen years ago)
Did you know that running takes its toll on THE KNEES?
― Andy K, Sunday, 5 August 2007 03:33 (eighteen years ago)
Are the Padres announcers the absolute worst all the time, or just right now?
― Andy K, Sunday, 5 August 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)
aren't you watching ESPN2? lol'd at Orel's "I drew energy from fans mocking my name"
― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 5 August 2007 03:44 (eighteen years ago)
i watched the ESPN2 feed because Extra Innings has the San Diego feed tonight.
can't wait until Bonds goes away and this is coming from a San Francisco Giants fan.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 5 August 2007 04:13 (eighteen years ago)
it's at times like this that i miss the Duane Kuiper or Jon Miller calls that i loved to hear.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 5 August 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)