Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

looooooooooooool omar

14 Jim Thome (34) 541 (you know this guy was on something)

Hahaha I always actually thought of Thome as more just kinda like

http://fruitfly.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/babyhuey.jpg

Also re: hilarious offseason, I can't believe there's been no talk of this bizarre Robbie Alomar AIDS lawsuit thing.

get thee to the hot stove thread for that

uh... check again.

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New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez might be suspended for admitting he used performance-enhancing drugs, Commissioner Bud Selig told USA TODAY on Wednesday.

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MASSIVE xp

no way he gets suspended

During the past week, BILL MAHER is the only person (out of dozens I've seen) who has made these points/arguments on television.

(Best ones in bold.)

MAHER: Who cares?

First of all, I think that there are so many variables in the game of baseball.

KING: Sure.

MAHER: That...

KING: It's a hard game to play.

MAHER: No, I mean, from era to era. That this idea that, oh, Alex Rodriguez's records and Roger Clemens and whoever else is guilty, we should wipe them out. Barry Bonds now can't be in the Hall of Fame. His records are suspect.

Well, yes, things were different because they took steroids. I don't think that's more than when we didn't have night games...

KING: (INAUDIBLE)

MAHER: Or when there we're not...

KING: It's just (INAUDIBLE) throwing spit balls.

MAHER: Spit balls.

How about that there weren't black people in the game?

KING: Yes.

MAHER: I think that changed things a little.

KING: Right.

MAHER: Or the fact that they used to wear little mittens. I mean it was called a baseball mitt because it was only fitting over your hand.

KING: Yes.

Little mittens, LOL.

Those old gloves are hilarious, esp deadball era and earlier.

check out the old deadball era bat

http://mysite.verizon.net/cokerja/images/evers_johnny_1910_bat_1024x752.jpg

Louisville DBS ("Dead Baby Seal"): 26"/85 oz.

http://www.santafe.edu/~albers/personal/baseball/baseball.jpg

evers looking kinda inbred

that's the chance you take

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/lk_popeye_slugger500.jpg

hey, Selena Roberts has an A-Rod BOOK coming out in April. I CAN'T WAIT

Tim (NY): Odds that (i) Selig tries to suspend ARod; (ii) gets away with it?

SportsNation Rob Neyer: (1:31 PM ET ) (i) 50:1 (ii) 100:1 ... whatever happens will be carefully orchestrated by all parties involved.

MJ (Edmonton): Let's say Arod finishes with 800+ HR. Do you think he makes the hall of fame?

SportsNation Rob Neyer: (1:59 PM ET ) He'll be there someday ... Wait! He just lost his composure! Must be the acting lessons from Madonna, the great thespian...

dammit, somebody tell Bonds -- CRY ON CAMERA, early and often!

http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/as-it-happens-watching-a-rod/

Of course Swisher still wears open-top hats.

Tim Keown echoes my thoughts on this matter:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=keown/090217&sportCat=mlb

Is it "cheating" if there was no clear statistical benefit? I don't know if there's a meaningful answer.

It is cheating if he attempted to gain some benefit by engaging in prohibited activities.

I'm just most sickened by the "Judge me from this point forward" bullshit. Fuck you. I can't just call "reset" on my life - why the fuck should you? Because you are fabulously rich? Because you're a very talented athelete who may or may not have augmented your reputation because of the use of steroids?

Fuck off. No resets. Nope.

(BTW - I'm an Orioles fan. Just a disclosure)

where's that Brady Anderson apology?

"Is it "cheating" if there was no clear statistical benefit?"

If you copy off someone's test in class and that person gets an "F" is it cheating?

theres no clear statistical benefit because we dont have the information to do a legit statistical analysis - not because one has been done and shown no effect

ie we dont know who was using roids and when

where's that Brady Anderson apology?

I'm sorry for his sideburns. But he never tested positive, did he?

Fuck A-Roid.

If someone buys oregano thinking it's pot, is it still just to arrest them for possession?

Depends on whether or not they can cook.

if someone buys pot, smokes it, but fails to get high, are they still breaking the law?

yah

if a man eats another man, but its in the dream of a third man, is it right?

xxp: happened to me w/ shr00mz

it's ILB guests max & icey, ladies & germs.

anyway, it's nice to finally see some a Republican drug user talk about his drug use. lol did he actually say "I've come to take my medicine" yesterday?

^typed w/ sleep deprivation

The fake pot analogy falls apart quickly - potheads aren't playing a game where greatness is measured in statistics, and are not engaging in an activity that alters the ability of current players to compete against great stats of the past.

All they want is some chips and some video games.

lol im pretty sure the fake pot analogy was supposed to be a joke

POTHEADS play MINDGAMES

It's sort of a joke, but why do we treat the crime of cheating with so much more scorn than other crimes? Ugie Urbina murdered a guy and spent maybe two days in the media news cycle, with barely a "tsk tsk".

And among steroid users, Nook Logan and Alex Rodriguez committed the same crime and received immensely disproportionate scorn for it. Why does Alex Rodriguez receive a different de facto punishment for the same crime simply because he was more talented than Logan or others? Why is Bonds a pariah but Giambi is a good guy, when neither have ACTUALLY admitted to using steroids?

bcz the Holy Crusade is led by sportswriters/yakkers who are overwhelmingly envious, resentful, pathetic pricks.

its because people care abt baseball - urbina attempted murdered a guy and its just another fucked up story - if u fuck w/the game tho...

it's all about the media, dawg. nobody gives a shit about nook, the media likes giambi, everybody hates bonds, a-rod is the best player in the game to some people so people "care" more, etc

and obv people don't care about the NFL and its juiced phalanx of giants (small g)

"Ugie Urbina murdered a guy and spent maybe two days in the media news cycle, with barely a "tsk tsk"."

BECAUSE HE'S UGIE URBINA! Plus it happened in Venezuela.

"Why is Bonds a pariah but Giambi is a good guy, when neither have ACTUALLY admitted to using steroids?"

Because Barry Bonds comes off as a jerk whereas Jason Giambi comes off as a sweaty bug eyed freak.

the media only cares about superstars who are currently playing the game (unless your name is pete rose or one of the ex-future HOF roiders)

"and obv people don't care about the NFL and its juiced phalanx of giants (small g)"

Waah waah.

ppl really are surprised that nook fucking logan and a-rod are perceived differently and treated differently?