Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

anyway: no story here. Back to baseball.

at least he's admitting to it.

April 24, 25, 26
NYY @ BOS

tune in for some taunting, baiting and jeers.

i mean - you have to give him that much.
xpost

i'm seriously starting t feel sorry for the guy.
thanks guys.

at least he's admitting to it (after lying about it for 6 years and faced with a positive test leaked to the media underscoring any credibility he has left).

admitting to it, yet being unable to clearly state when he used or what he was using. yeah fuck that.

yah his admission was super half assed and likely bullshit

speaking from experience - once you're locked into a serious groove, it's pretty hard to know what you may or may not have put in your system.

sry, not believing a guy whose body was worth $252 million at the time couldn't even name some of the things he was putting into it.

ffs, just say testosterone and the other one that was in the media report and sound like less of a tard.

Doug Glanville:

So how did people get access to these records? And how can they just put the information out there for the world to see?

Therein lies the bigger problem.

I understood that when the federal government was looking for evidence in the BALCO investigation it might tread on players’ toes at some point. It seemed like all of baseball had become guilty by association once Ken Caminiti alleged that 50 percent of the major league players were on steroids. Or maybe the feds would be looking to catch players like Barry Bonds or Jason Giambi. The union and the league both knew that keeping these results privileged would be difficult. But for not one but four anonymous sources to leak this information, as is apparently the case with A-Rod, is unfathomable.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/opinion/09glanville.html?pagewanted=all

Ex-A's Star Tejada Charged With Lying To Congress

watch out old man gonna grump on u http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:3jYbxQBHvw97uM:http://www.newsgroper.com/files/imagecache/span-50/files/chars/john-mccain.jpg

Not this old man.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3896888

"Everything I've read in the last few days is unfair and anti-union," Miller told ESPN.com Tuesday. "But that does not mean I agree that [union officials] are without blame. When they agreed on a testing program, I said, 'They're going to regret this, because you're going to see players going to jail.' "...

Miller said the timeframe is evidence that the union acted properly in its decision to cooperation with authorities.

"Under these circumstances, if you just ignore what's going on and you destroy records, you're running a terrible risk of being charged with obstruction of justice," Miller said....

"I have a personal belief that there's no such thing as a magic pill or magic injection. I don't know that there's any scientific evidence that there's a performance-enhancing drug. Players take it because they think it does. That's a far cry from saying that it does. Where is the evidence that requires testing?"

91-year old enters public debate; looks silly.

THE_REAL_SHAQ Ok i admit it i at performance enhancing frosted flakes 2 yrs ago, lol about 10 hours ago from txt

THE_REAL_SHAQ Is a rod done, whats goin on here, aggggggh, what iz da world comn 2 about 10 hours ago from txt

THE_REAL_SHAQ 103 players tested positive, do steroids really help, any drs on twitter about 10 hours ago from txt

really, Marvin woulda said the same things at 51.

Not Drew Sharp, but evidently worth putting near the top of the front page.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090210/COL10/90210013/Alex+Rodriguez+should+go+to+jail

rochelle riley does not sound like an old white man's name im shocked

glad we have shaq's take

Daniel Shaugnessy, man of restraint, says "All of this needling seems excessive."

lol of all people

"I say, why don't you unkempt hooligans leave those fine upstanding baseball players alone!"

44pitches says steroids eliminate need for effort, double your ability:

"The ones that have come out and admitted it, and are proven guilty, (their numbers) should not count. I've been cheated out of the game," Oswalt continued. "This is my ninth year, and I've done nothing to enhance my performance, other than work my butt off to get guys out. These guys (who took PEDs) have all the talent in the world. All-Star talent. And they put times two on it.

sure Roy we'll take your word for it; also delete the entire 1970s for bennies.

Daniel Shaugnessy, man of restraint, says "All of this needling seems excessive."

― Safe Boating is No Accident (G00blar), Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:15 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ He's probably worried Papi and Tek are on that list.

Neyer on Oswalt: "Oddly enough, he's giving Roger Clemens 'the benefit of the doubt' and has little to say about any other ex-teammates, a healthy number of whom must have been juicing right along with A-Rod and Rocket. ...Credibility is enhanced by consistency."

Say goodbye to your obvious juice-enhanced numbers, Nook.

YEAR HR
2004 0
2005 1
2006 1
2007 0

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spkeith116031539feb11,0,3511401.story

SNY analyst Keith Hernandez last night expressed anger and frustration over baseball's performance-enhancing drug culture, calling the era "tainted" and said, "anybody that did steroids" should not be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Speaking on "SportsNite," Hernandez made it clear that includes Alex Rodriguez, whose statement Monday that he did not know exactly what he took was dismissed by Hernandez. "I think that A-Rod knew what he was doing," Hernandez said. "I think that if you look at his teammates over there in Texas, it was a nest of cheaters."

Hernandez said "it all boils down to greed" and wondered whether he might have put up Hall of Fame numbers had he bulked up with steroids.

"I was 191 pounds my rookie year," he said. "If I had ingested steroids, I would have been close to 230 pounds. Now how much better would that have made me, 230 pounds without any body fat? And how many more home runs would I have hit?

"I hit 164 home runs . I probably would have hit over 250. I drove in 1,100 runs . I probably would have drove in 1,400. And I think that, along with 11 Gold Gloves, I'd be in the Hall of Fame."

o_O

argh retired baseball players are seriously the worst.

Referring to people as "Mex" in the USA

Am I getting the wrong impression here or is baseball culture a neverending cycle of statistics and "u mad"?

Welcome to ILB

hahaha, I was just about to say that. Welcome! ONE OF US ONE OF US

yah that should be the nu ILB descrption

would have been close to 230 pounds.

lol dude was close to this his last few years - fat, slow-footed fuck.
also, cokehead

DETROIT, U MAD

― Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Sunday, October 1, 2006 5:00 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

yah that should be the nu ILB descrption

Done.

^NO. srsly, music geeks laughing @ baseball fans?

yeah Keith, maybe your choice of PEDs is what shortened yr career.

Referring to people as "Mex" in the USA

also, his dad was from Spain, not Mexico. Ballplayer geography.

well he did specify "230 pounds without any body fat" xxxp

another actual tragedy of steroid headlines: "visitors" from ILE.

Hernandez provides some Rizzuto-like LOLs in the Mets booth, but he often comes across as a haughty dick.

you're seriously complaining about outsiders puncturing the sanctity of ILB?

seriously no, complaining yes, thats how I roll

understood

new board description is accurate and an improvement over anything using "LOL"

howev, if you want to summarize the last 5 years of PED debate for icey feel free (xp)

as Al Pacino would say, You're "mad", the whole TRIAL is "mad"

Yes, but as Charles Durning would say, "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!"

:)

via Neyer:

http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomics/index.php/2009/02/what-impact-did-steroids-have-on-alex-rodriguezs-home-run-performance/

So, what were A-Rod's steroids worth? 2.37 home runs over two seasons, or a little over one home run a season. At least, that is the estimate based on the method I laid out above; however, it's probably best to say that there was no observed effect. It is possible that the steroids did give Rodriguez a boost, and this may have helped him through an injury or some other factor that my estimate does not account for. It's also likely that he hit more home runs than expected through random chance. Given the general swings in the play of the game, it is very difficult to separate true performance changes from random swings in performance. The deviation here isn't large enough to say much.

The important finding is that the statistical record doesn't reveal an obvious spike in home-run performance by Alex Rodriguez during the time when he admits to using performance-enhancing drugs.

so why do people do it?