Sources tell SI Alex Rodriguez tested positive for steroids in 2003

dude a person can love baseball and think that a lot of players are unredeemable douchebags

irredeemable, unless of course you are disappointed that you can't turn in old douchebags for $$$

speaking of, POTUS 44 sounds a lot like POTUS 43 both on "state secrets"/ rendition and mealymouthed platitudes about steroids in baseball

do you think the POTUS actually gives a fuck about steroids in baseball right now?

Neyer OTM:

Have you seen the interview? (Congrats to Mr. Gammons, by the way.)

I've watched it a couple of dozen times now, and I have to say, things don't start out too well for Mr. Rodriguez. Not when Mr. Gammons' first question is, "What's the truth?"

When I arrived in Texas in 2001, I felt an enormous amount of pressure. I felt like I had all the weight of the world on top of me, and I needed to perform, and perform at a high level every day.
Back then, it was a different culture. It was very loose. I was young. I was stupid. I was naive. And I wanted to prove to everyone that, you know, I was worth, you know, being one of the greatest players of all time.

And I did take a banned substance. And, you know, for that I am very sorry and deeply regretful. And although it was the culture back then, and Major League Baseball overall, um … was very … I'm just, I just feel that, um … You know, I'm just sorry. I'm sorry for that time. I'm sorry to my fans. I'm sorry for my fans in Texas. It wasn't until then that I thought about a substance of any kind, and since then, I've proved to myself and to everyone that I don't need any of that.

If you're not trained, reciting a script is terribly difficult for most people. I tried it once. I tried to memorize a 250-word commentary about baseball and failed miserably. And in this clip, you can see exactly where Alex Rodriguez loses track of his place in the script. You see those ellipses up there? That's where A-Rod forgot what was he was supposed to say next. So instead, he paused, got a little verklempt and returned to his No. 1 talking point: He's really, really sorry.

Sure. He's sorry he got caught. Everyone's sorry when he's caught. But you're really sorry only if you think that what you did was wrong, and I don't believe that any of these guys really believe they did anything wrong. A different culture five years ago? The culture today is exactly the same as it was five years ago. The only thing that has changed is the penalty for failing a drug test. If you want to know the culture, look no further than the ridiculous percentage of players who have a doctor's note that allows them to take stimulants (under the guise of controlling their ADHD or whatever).

The culture is exactly what it's always been: If you ain't cheating, you're not trying. And it ain't cheating if you don't get caught. Rodriguez tried, and now he's been caught. The next step is damage control, full of apologies and admissions of youth and stupidity. (And, of course, it's obvious that he's now a mature and thoughtful adult.)

Asked whether the steroid use took place only from 2001 through 2003, Rodriguez responded, "That's pretty accurate, yes."

Pretty accurate? So maybe there was a little bit in 2000? What about 2004, and maybe just a dabbling in 2007?

And when Gammons asked him which drugs he used, there came this whopper: "Peter, that's the thing. I mean, again, it was such a loosey-goosey era. I'm guilty for a lot of things. I'm guilty for being arrogant, of being naive, not asking all the right questions. To be quite honest, I don't know exactly what substance I was guilty of using."

Rodriguez -- earning $25 million and surrounded by a bevy of agents, advisers, trainers and God knows who else -- didn't bother knowing which drugs he was using? For (at least) three years? He's obsessed with his performance … and yet, for three years he'll stick any old thing into his body without a thought?

Please. I understand the public relations angle of this thing. But now you're just insulting our intelligence. Alex, I forgive you. But I would feel better about it if you'd told us the truth, just this once. Other guys were doing it, and nobody was getting caught, and you were just one of them.

If you ain't cheating …

thanks "harvard" perry

cad, I wd like to have heard the POTUS say "I don't give a fuck about steroids in baseball." But he doesn't give a fuck about civil liberties, so that's just a wish.

cad, I wd like to have heard the POTUS say "I don't give a fuck about steroids in baseball." But he doesn't give a fuck about civil liberties, so that's just a wish.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, February 10, 2009 9:51 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

yah guys i mean i would have liked that too but let's return to the real world mmkay?

read the news, icey

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email posted by NYT's Tyler Kepner (demonization balance):

I was a mom with two little boys when Alex first came to Seattle. He had no ego at all. We still have a dozen balls that he signed, which for all of his time in Seattle, he did for the kids during batting practice, before, and after games. Other players didn’t do this, and instead drove their cars directly into the Kingdome.

One day, there was an opportunity for fans to go down on the field and take pictures of the players from behind the rope line. My older son yelled to Alex to have a picture taken with him. The handlers said no. Alex ignored them, brought both my boys behind the rope, and knelt down with them. We bought two of his real rookie cards from a an old friend in New York, because no one there had ever heard of him, and the cards were eight bucks. He was my sons’ hero, along with Ken Griffey Jr.

The story saddens me. I believe that somewhere inside the Alex that now belongs to the New York Yankees is the young man who once played his heart out for the little boys in the stands, for his momma, and for the heart of the game. Maybe we can let ballplayers be ballplayers again, and forgive Alex. Maybe Alex can find his core again, and move forward. I took those same little boys to the Hall of Fame, and we hoped to go back someday and see A-Rod honored. I hope, perhaps naively, that this will still happen. As Van Jones says, sometimes we have to break down so we can rebuild.

find yr core again bro, move forward

anyway: no story here. Back to baseball.

at least he's admitting to it.

April 24, 25, 26
NYY @ BOS

tune in for some taunting, baiting and jeers.

i mean - you have to give him that much.
xpost

i'm seriously starting t feel sorry for the guy.
thanks guys.

at least he's admitting to it (after lying about it for 6 years and faced with a positive test leaked to the media underscoring any credibility he has left).

admitting to it, yet being unable to clearly state when he used or what he was using. yeah fuck that.

yah his admission was super half assed and likely bullshit

speaking from experience - once you're locked into a serious groove, it's pretty hard to know what you may or may not have put in your system.

sry, not believing a guy whose body was worth $252 million at the time couldn't even name some of the things he was putting into it.

ffs, just say testosterone and the other one that was in the media report and sound like less of a tard.

Doug Glanville:

So how did people get access to these records? And how can they just put the information out there for the world to see?

Therein lies the bigger problem.

I understood that when the federal government was looking for evidence in the BALCO investigation it might tread on players’ toes at some point. It seemed like all of baseball had become guilty by association once Ken Caminiti alleged that 50 percent of the major league players were on steroids. Or maybe the feds would be looking to catch players like Barry Bonds or Jason Giambi. The union and the league both knew that keeping these results privileged would be difficult. But for not one but four anonymous sources to leak this information, as is apparently the case with A-Rod, is unfathomable.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/opinion/09glanville.html?pagewanted=all

Ex-A's Star Tejada Charged With Lying To Congress

watch out old man gonna grump on u http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:3jYbxQBHvw97uM:http://www.newsgroper.com/files/imagecache/span-50/files/chars/john-mccain.jpg

Not this old man.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3896888

"Everything I've read in the last few days is unfair and anti-union," Miller told ESPN.com Tuesday. "But that does not mean I agree that [union officials] are without blame. When they agreed on a testing program, I said, 'They're going to regret this, because you're going to see players going to jail.' "...

Miller said the timeframe is evidence that the union acted properly in its decision to cooperation with authorities.

"Under these circumstances, if you just ignore what's going on and you destroy records, you're running a terrible risk of being charged with obstruction of justice," Miller said....

"I have a personal belief that there's no such thing as a magic pill or magic injection. I don't know that there's any scientific evidence that there's a performance-enhancing drug. Players take it because they think it does. That's a far cry from saying that it does. Where is the evidence that requires testing?"

91-year old enters public debate; looks silly.

THE_REAL_SHAQ Ok i admit it i at performance enhancing frosted flakes 2 yrs ago, lol about 10 hours ago from txt

THE_REAL_SHAQ Is a rod done, whats goin on here, aggggggh, what iz da world comn 2 about 10 hours ago from txt

THE_REAL_SHAQ 103 players tested positive, do steroids really help, any drs on twitter about 10 hours ago from txt

really, Marvin woulda said the same things at 51.

Not Drew Sharp, but evidently worth putting near the top of the front page.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090210/COL10/90210013/Alex+Rodriguez+should+go+to+jail

rochelle riley does not sound like an old white man's name im shocked

glad we have shaq's take

Daniel Shaugnessy, man of restraint, says "All of this needling seems excessive."

lol of all people

"I say, why don't you unkempt hooligans leave those fine upstanding baseball players alone!"

44pitches says steroids eliminate need for effort, double your ability:

"The ones that have come out and admitted it, and are proven guilty, (their numbers) should not count. I've been cheated out of the game," Oswalt continued. "This is my ninth year, and I've done nothing to enhance my performance, other than work my butt off to get guys out. These guys (who took PEDs) have all the talent in the world. All-Star talent. And they put times two on it.

sure Roy we'll take your word for it; also delete the entire 1970s for bennies.

Daniel Shaugnessy, man of restraint, says "All of this needling seems excessive."

― Safe Boating is No Accident (G00blar), Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:15 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ He's probably worried Papi and Tek are on that list.

Neyer on Oswalt: "Oddly enough, he's giving Roger Clemens 'the benefit of the doubt' and has little to say about any other ex-teammates, a healthy number of whom must have been juicing right along with A-Rod and Rocket. ...Credibility is enhanced by consistency."

Say goodbye to your obvious juice-enhanced numbers, Nook.

YEAR HR
2004 0
2005 1
2006 1
2007 0

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spkeith116031539feb11,0,3511401.story

SNY analyst Keith Hernandez last night expressed anger and frustration over baseball's performance-enhancing drug culture, calling the era "tainted" and said, "anybody that did steroids" should not be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Speaking on "SportsNite," Hernandez made it clear that includes Alex Rodriguez, whose statement Monday that he did not know exactly what he took was dismissed by Hernandez. "I think that A-Rod knew what he was doing," Hernandez said. "I think that if you look at his teammates over there in Texas, it was a nest of cheaters."

Hernandez said "it all boils down to greed" and wondered whether he might have put up Hall of Fame numbers had he bulked up with steroids.

"I was 191 pounds my rookie year," he said. "If I had ingested steroids, I would have been close to 230 pounds. Now how much better would that have made me, 230 pounds without any body fat? And how many more home runs would I have hit?

"I hit 164 home runs . I probably would have hit over 250. I drove in 1,100 runs . I probably would have drove in 1,400. And I think that, along with 11 Gold Gloves, I'd be in the Hall of Fame."

o_O

argh retired baseball players are seriously the worst.

Referring to people as "Mex" in the USA

Am I getting the wrong impression here or is baseball culture a neverending cycle of statistics and "u mad"?

Welcome to ILB

hahaha, I was just about to say that. Welcome! ONE OF US ONE OF US