Moneyball

i think this looks like a pretty good hbo movie, like caek said? are underdog sports flicks uncool now or something?

I think that The Blindside certainly lowered the bar, but for baseball nerds there is the persuasive argument that Moneyball (the book) has cursed the A's to some degree (ie, they've sucked ever since with I think one possible exception).

i think this looks like a pretty good hbo movie, like caek said? are underdog sports flicks uncool now or something?

― ☂ (max), Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:26 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

they're very uncool! i mean, im a sucker for a good one, but look at all the sneering that stuff like The Fighter got for being a pretty trad sports flick

PTT, did you like The Blindside y/n?

istr 'the fighter' was oscar-nominated? and got a fair bit of critical love? not everywhere. but it was't hated.

trailer for this is shitty modern 'give them the whole plot' garbage but it'll probably be aight

The Blind Side was also Oscar nominated. lol

blind side was goofy but sandy was fun in it and there's some really corny phil fulmer/lou holtz/nick saban cameos - there are worse ways to spend a couple hours

nobody said anything about 'hated' enrique the word was UNCOOL pay attention pal!!!!!

(ie, they've sucked ever since with I think one possible exception).

Moneyball was published in 2003. That season they went to the playoffs. The following three seasons they won 91, 88, and 93 games.

yeah but narrative-wise for a movie like this it would've been nice for them to at least get to the world series

okay, kindly allow me to revise my comment to "mostly awful"

it'd be ballsy if they just rewrote it so that the A's won five WS in a row

xp (also my opinion of The Blindside.)

it'd be ballsy if they just rewrote it so that the A's won five WS in a row

― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:41 PM (27 seconds ago)

that would be the Disney version iirc.

supposedly the CEO of Activision is in this trailer as the greedy penny pinching exec..

Peter Brand went on to win several titles as GM of the Dodgers.

yeah actually the more i think about it, the harder it is to defend the blind side. i just really dig sandra bullock but without her its just a hallmark movie

and with her too but

Peter Brand wins WS, Cee Heop Shoi wins MVP.

jeremy giambi inducted to hall of fame

what if this movie ended with "my shit doesn't work in the playoffs" and it was like dark and brooding

billy beane alone in a dark bar

I really don't see any other way to end a movie where in the end they did 'okay'

It ends with a livechat in a BP chatroom with dozens of adoring SABR-fans.

That In-Contention-For-The-Wild-Card Season

Shasta, do you spend one day a month in reality now or what?

I really don't see any other way to end a movie where in the end they did 'okay'

― iatee, Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:50 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

credits roll over a stylized 1 frame per 5 seconds of the Jeter Backhand Flip.

Shasta, do you spend one day a month in reality now or what?

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Thursday, June 16, 2011 6:04 PM (1 hour ago)

2011 30-40
2010 81-81
2009 75-87
2008 75-86
2007 76-86
2006 93-69
2005 88-74
2004 91-71

Post-Moneyball
609-594 = .506

Now I know those numbers look impressive to a Mets fan, but for everyone else that is just a heaping load of meh that is not necessarily film-worthy.

"Oh look, we're barely .500 and have a shrinking fanbase*, we really revolutionized the game!!!"

*http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/OAK/attend.shtml

love sorkin but 'don't go on the internet, watch tv' is pretty bad

― underrated mountain goats bootlegs I have owned (history mayne), Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:21 PM (4 hours ago)

^internet dudes is just butthurt

Now I know those numbers look impressive to a Mets fan

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1598/ohsnap2yv8.gif

Beane struggled after he had to trade away his core players, lost his support staff to other front offices, had to cut payroll, had to adapt after other front offices wised up, etc. etc. could give the story a really interesting second act. If the movie stays entirely in the world of the book, then it's a missed opportunity, because that cultural moment in baseball was fascinating.

"The world of the book" IS the fucking story.

don't worry Shasta, I'm sure Kevin Costner will make another baseball film just for you soon.

I think Beane is very much a victim of his own success. When Moneyball came out maybe one or two teams where leverage advanced statistics to make personnel decisions. Now it's at least double that number. He doesn't have his original edge and there just aren't that many under-valued players around to build into a team.

I will say one more thing, Beane/the A's seem to have lost no ability to recognize good pitching talent (either via trade or the draft). The inability to build a decent lineup has become their downfall.

A source with knowledge of the situation said the A's are trying to trade for Seattle infielder Chone Figgins, and that current A's third baseman Kevin Kouzmanoff and perhaps a pitcher could be shipped to the Mariners in return.

as i'm to understand, Figgins would block a trade to Oakland.

not a good sign when someone would rather play for the Mariners than your team!

― got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, January 31, 2011 5:56 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ha that should be the ending of the Moneyball movie.

that and Billy Beane eating a chinese food box of egg noodle and ketchup, can't even get a marinara around here.

― sanskrit, Monday, January 31, 2011 10:03 PM (4 months ago) Bookmark

so Arliss Howard (Pvt Cowboy from Full Metal Jacket) has a small role in the film as John Henry. I guess he will swoop in for the third act to say "Now your methods are MINE, Beane! muahahaha." (Does Henry get much mention in the book? I don't recall.)

royce clayton playing miguel tejada is really tripping me up.

90% of this film's audience are only vaguely aware of who Miguel Tejada is, or are entirely ignorant. (ditto Art Howe etc)

seeing this for review next Tuesday. (They like to give the online writers a good 24-36 hours to crank something out.)

http://meadowparty.com/blog/?p=1861

That part about the Carlos Pena trade is pathetic. Definitely not seeing this p.o.s.

oof.

Maybe I'll catch it on cable.

Not reading that (yet), but you guys do know that the key word in "based on a true story" is "based"?

No!

Ouch. I'll wait for Morbs' review before deciding how long to put off seeing this.

Not reading that (yet), but you guys do know that the key word in "based on a true story" is "based"?

― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:37 PM (1 hour ago)

lil b is in this?

I thought it was "on"

I hope no one's told you that at the end Billy Beane kills Hitler in a movie theater.

Morbsies, did you like The Blind Side?

(if so, gfy)