Barry Bonds is the DEVIL!!!

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Remember when BBTN was AWESOME? Or is this like the 80's where it wasn't as great as we think?

Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Regardless of how rose colored my Berman'd nostalgia might get, I'm pretty sure shit is stinking like diarrhea nowadays.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Ravvy needs to GIT R DONE (and by "R" I mean "take Kruk and HR on a tour of the Connecticut River with rocks in their pockets").

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 28 April 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)

BBTN non-shit% = % particip of Gammons and Bobby Valentine

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 28 April 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

I don't really mind Olney compared to the other guys.

Actually, I like that big mexican guy (why can't I ever remember his name) who sits in from time to time. He's not bad.

I'm not sure who I despise most between Kruk and Steve Phillips, but I'm going to go with Phillips. What a fucking clown.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 April 2006 19:30 (twenty years ago)

Just a little perspective here:

Arizona's down 7-2 in the bottom of the 8th, they've pitched to Bonds 4 times earlier in the game (single & bases-loaded double)... Bonds comes up with a runner on 2nd.

Intentional walk issued to Bonds to get to Alou... and Alou hits a 3 run HR.

His realtime stats: .273/.543/.568 = OPS 1.111

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 29 April 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Had the pleasure of getting out to see the game today. The Giants runs came in the form of 2 solo shots (and a balk), of course with no one on base. Mike Matheney (.189 BA) was batting 6th so you know it's pretty dire over here.

Anyways, Bonds took a Scott Linebrink fastball deep (440 feet) to dead center. It was a monster line drive that let out a loud "thunk" (audible above the crowd of 35k's roar) when it hit the score board about 500 feet from the plate on a bounce.

Bonds saw about 30 pitches in 4 at-bats working the count full each time. He saw around 20% of the pitches thrown by San Diego pitchers.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:30 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2006/05/06/sp_giants_0113_df.jpg

I like the fatherly approval they're receiving.

caek (caek), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:07 (twenty years ago)

713

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:48 (twenty years ago)

Mammoth shot of the upper deck facade in right field* off Lieber.

*1st HR this year not to center or left.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:53 (twenty years ago)

Phillies claiming it was 450 feet but Morgan/Miller/Kuiper/Kruk are all thinking 550+. Greg Pappas (Giants radio) said that it was the longest HR he's ever seen.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Whoops, that was Dave Fleming not Pappas.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:37 (twenty years ago)

There is no way that bomb was only 450 ft.

When they showed that ground-level camera angle of that McDonald's sign ... it just seemed so unfathomable to actually reach it.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:57 (twenty years ago)

It's not Pappas, it's Papa.

c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:04 (twenty years ago)

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c(''c) (Leee), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:05 (twenty years ago)

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Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Inspired by last night's game where Bonds looked like a much faster/stronger fielder than Pat Burrell (oh Pat what happened to you...?):

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=9&season=2006&seasonType=2&split=83&sortColumn=rangeFactor

As expected, Bonds is towards the bottom of the range factor list, but equal to Jose Cruz Jr. (gold glove as recently as 2003) and ahead of Wilkerson, Podsednik, Burrell, Floyd, Catalanotto and Luis Gonzalez (I)???

He's still got a quick jump and he missed robbing a Nady HR by about a foot... it's surprising to see him actually holding his ground defensively especially after so much media attention focuses on how he supposedly can't field his position anymore.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)

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http://cache.deadspin.com/images/2006/05/bondssignbig.jpg

INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:51 (twenty years ago)

xpost:

also interesting to note from that stat table is that Alfonso Soriano leads the majors in outfield assists!

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Juan Pierre makes a incredible wall-scaling grab to rob Bonds of 714.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:29 (twenty years ago)

That banner - wow!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm not completely convinced that ball would have left the park.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:14 (twenty years ago)

Bonds Big in Japan.

c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

MEMBERS ONLY

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INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Friday, 19 May 2006 19:50 (twenty years ago)

It's free registration, FYI.

On the other side of the Pacific, Bonds is adored, admired and `seen as a very friendly star'

Japanese reporters say booing is nonexistent in Japan, and so is media access to the clubhouse, a much different atmosphere that Barry Bonds usually encounters in Major League baseball.
Dai Sugano / Mercury News
Japanese reporters say booing is nonexistent in Japan, and so is media access to the clubhouse, a much different atmosphere that Barry Bonds usually encounters in Major League baseball.

Ryusuke Shiraishi was stunned the first time he heard Barry Bonds booed. Shiraishi had been in the United States for only three months as a Major League Baseball reporter for the Kyodo News, the Japanese equivalent of the Associated Press.

``It's like how you would treat a murderer,'' Shiraishi said of how fans in Milwaukee treated the Giants outfielder.

Shiraishi's surprise wasn't uncommon among the band of Japanese reporters who are following Bonds' chase to 714 home runs. Nikkon Sports correspondent Satoko Sano said Bonds is ``a hero'' in Japan. There, she said, he is without a doubt the most popular non-Japanese player in the major leagues, which has grown its overseas audience since Hideo Nomo came to the United States in 1995.

But what about Bonds' alleged steroid use?

``Japanese people haven't thought enough about it to have an opinion,'' Shiraishi said during an interview conducted in Japanese.

His personality?

``He's always smiling,'' Shiraishi said. ``There's absolutely no perception of him being arrogant. He's seen as a very friendly star.''

Always smiling and benevolent -- that's the endearing image Bonds left in Japan on an all-star tour in 2002. When the Japanese think of Bonds, many of them think of a home run contest between him and then-Tokyo Giants slugger Hideki Matsui, now a New York Yankees outfielder. When Matsui struggled to hit any home runs, Bonds came behind him, massaged his shoulders and told him to relax.

The display of tenderness was followed by an affable appearance in a commercial for Yomiuri, one of Japan's leading newspapers. Yomiuri owns the Tokyo Giants and sponsored the U.S.-Japan all-star series.

So no one was more shocked than Yomiuri reporter Yuichi Usuda to witness the environment surrounding Bonds.

``I feel sorry for him,'' Usuda said. ``No matter what he does, he's attacked in newspaper articles. I'm surprised.''

Much of the surprise, of course, is simply a result of cultural differences.

Booing is non-existent in Japan, the reporters said, and so is media access to the clubhouse.

``I don't think he's that bad,'' Usuda said of Bonds and his dealings with the press. ``He's talking, at least. There are Japanese players who don't talk that much or don't talk at all. I think Ichiro could be more of a hassle to deal with.''

The drug culture is different as well.

Though there are rumors that performance-enhancing drugs are finding their way into Nippon Professional Baseball by way of American players, the Japanese league has been relatively free of drug-related scandals. An exception was when the Chiba Lotte Marines, managed by American Bobby Valentine, were accused in the press of amphetamine use last season. When New York Mets minor league pitcher Yusaku Iriki of Japan tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs and blamed contaminated supplements, his countrymen accepted his excuse.

As Usuda said: ``I thought he was careless.''

The same reasoning is applied when the Japanese hear of Bonds' reported flaxseed-oil defense.

``You don't know,'' Shiraishi said.

Shiraishi added that because Americans are doing the accusing -- Americans are not seen as particularly trustworthy -- the steroid accusations carry less weight. And nothing can undo the impression Bonds left on the Japanese when he launched several monster home runs in the 2002 all-star tour.

``The home runs were of a completely different realm than those hit by Japanese players,'' Shiraishi said. ``The impression he left was so strong that even if people know that he's been accused of using drugs in the United States, they are giving him the benefit of the doubt.''

Bonds' reputation was further enhanced when Japanese players, among them icon Kazuhiro Kiyohara, began mimicking his style of hitting.

``Japanese players are now waiting for the ball as long as possible and turning on it,'' Shiraishi said. ``Japanese players, in the past, have hit by moving their center of gravity as far forward as possible during their swing.''

Catching Babe Ruth would further enhance Bonds' legacy overseas. Shiraishi went as far as to say that matching Ruth could be seen as an even bigger achievement than matching Hank Aaron because of Ruth's greater stature. Belting No. 714 would probably land Bonds on the cover of many Japanese newspapers. (To the Japanese, tying a legend is more important than passing one.)

``Americans say that 755 is the record, but in Japan, there's someone who has hit 868,'' Shiraishi said, referring to Sadaharu Oh. ``To Japanese people, what's important is that he's lining up with Babe Ruth. That in itself is a record.''

c(''c) (Leee), Friday, 19 May 2006 21:44 (twenty years ago)

"Shiraishi added that because Americans are doing the accusing -- Americans are not seen as particularly trustworthy -- the steroid accusations carry less weight."

haha.

what the dude doesn't mention is that steroids are legal in Japan.

INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

...the impact of which can be seen most glaringly in MMA. PRIDE, the world's biggest and most popular MMA organization, only tests for illegal drugs like coke and amphetamines. american fans bitch about it a lot, but that's just the way it is lol.

INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Friday, 19 May 2006 22:20 (twenty years ago)

714, FINALLY?

Did any ILB'ers go to the game?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 20 May 2006 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Dammit Benitez, I want to watch women's beach volleyball!

c(''c) (Leee), Saturday, 20 May 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

does anyone have a rough predicted number of at bats until he ties Aaron? I don't tknow stats, but assume this could be done by taking 41 x his career 1 HR per at x bats rate.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Sunday, 21 May 2006 13:03 (twenty years ago)

i might have done this wrong, and could only find through 2005 data.
10,666 plate appearances (at bats, walks, and hit by pitch) with 708 HRs. that gives us a HR every 15.06 appears, thus 617 more trips to the plate to reach 755?

is this way off? can anyone do it with just his 2006 rates?

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Sunday, 21 May 2006 13:12 (twenty years ago)

"Did any ILB'ers go to the game?"

I was there. Didn't see it though (was running late in car on way to game.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 21 May 2006 15:00 (twenty years ago)

So then you WEREN'T there

Jimmy Mod is a super idol of The MARS SPIRIT (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, 21 May 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

He's hitting one HR's for about every 25 PA's this year, which means he needs about 1000 more PA's, or the rest of the 2006 and 2007 seasons (barring injury).

Injury and/or motivation are probably the only things that would stop him from breaking the record in 2007 (OK, he could also start sucking at the plate).

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 21 May 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Although frankly, Bonds has been so streaky this year that you can't really make reliable predictions based on past HR rates.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 21 May 2006 16:22 (twenty years ago)

I was not there. If I had been in town longer I would have planned something out.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

"So then you WEREN'T there"

Read the questiona above dumbass. He asked if I was at the at the GAME. I was. Did I see the HR live? No. My gf, my brother and my mom did though (they remembered to bring their tickets haha.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

umad

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INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Now if he waits another 13 days, I'll see #715 on June 2!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 May 2006 19:49 (twenty years ago)

I can hear Barry Bonds' footsteps every night on the on deck circle.
But I was there.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 22 May 2006 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Obviously the part about seeing Bonds' homer was implied in my question, but anyway, it's too bad you missed the start of the game, Alex.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 22 May 2006 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Eh it was my own dumb fault. I just wish Kendall hadn't hit into that DP in the bottom of the 9th. That would have made missing it a lot more bearable.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:08 (twenty years ago)

Jason Kendall: .259/.364/.306
Adam Melhuse: .275/.327/.510

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:15 (twenty years ago)

I'd still rather bat Kendall more (although not as much as last year?!?!?!), but yeah the guys over at athleticsnation.com bring that up every other minute.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 22 May 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

is the T.O./BB thing true?

INSANE CLOWN FOSSE (Adrian Langston), Monday, 22 May 2006 23:13 (twenty years ago)

yes, they are adopting a baby Chinese girl together.

barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:55 (twenty years ago)

Aww schmoopie!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

My academic/sociologist sister on BB: "He's mentally ill."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Is your sister Tom Verducci?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:12 (twenty years ago)

What mental illness does your sister think he has (I think he's a classic narcissist but I am not an academic)?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)


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