Stephen Strasburg, pitcher and Scott Boras client

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that does not look good?

Strained flex0r tendon

if it's strained then he should be out like 5 weeks or so (happened to brett anderson this year), if it's actually torn... then he'll be fucked up for a longer time obv

there's no way they're gonna try to get him back before the end of the season either way

no

Dibble thinks Wussburg man the fuck up, rub some dirt on it.

"So for me, a little bit has to be put back on Strasbug here. Ok, you throw a pitch, it bothers your arm, and you immediately call out the manager and the trainer? Suck it up, kid. This is your profession. You chose to be a baseball player. You can't have the cavalry come in and save your butt every time you feel a little stiff shoulder, sore elbow.

"I mean, excuse me. There's guys I played with that had screws holding their elbows together. Chris Sabo played two weeks on a broken ankle. I put a steel plate in my wrist so I could be back in five weeks instead of three months. So, this is your choice. You can either suck it up and be a man at 22 making $2 million a year (with) a $15 million contract, or every time you get an ache and pain you can go out of the game and say I'm gonna let down the other 24 guys right here and possibly end up forfeiting the game."

"There's so many (other) guys....Josh Willingham, who is gonna have surgery on his left knee, was playing with torn cartilage in his knee, could barely run around the bases. This is the simple answer to this, you need to know the difference between pain and injury. When I was 12, my arm hurt. When I was in my teens and I would throw and walk off the mound when I was a starter, my arm would throb. I couldn't even hold a glass of water. And you know what? I loved it.

"I was so sick, I loved it, 'cause I felt 'ok, I'm throwing hard enough to make my arm shake when I'm just standing there.' So I was a totally different animal than I think has been created here with Strasburg, where now you're telling this kid as soon as you feel any arm pain, call us and we'll come help you. Please.

"This is the major leagues. This is not college any more. You're not on scholarship. You're being paid to do the job and guys depend on you, and I think it's unfortunate that the Nationals and the team are in a situation here where this kid now, he feels any kind of arm pain, he's gonna call you out? That's scary to me."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/08/rob_dibble_to_stephen_strasbur.html

The byline of that story should read "Rob Dibble was washed up at age 29".

or, as Lou Piniella famously opined, Rob Dibble doesn't deserve to be treated like a man.

Manager Lou Piniella of the Cincinnati Reds wrestled with relief pitcher Rob Dibble in the clubhouse at Riverfront Stadium Thursday night after a 3-2 victory over the Atlanta Braves that only slowed the Braves' NL West title drive.

...

About a half-hour after Steve Foster got his first major-league save, Dibble plunged the Reds into another controversy.

Piniella said he used Foster, who got the last three outs, because Dibble complained of a tight shoulder the previous night.

"Dibble was not available," Piniella said. "He couldn't get loose when he got up last night."

When reporters questioned the reliever about his shoulder, he shot back: "There's nothing wrong with it."

Piniella heard of Dibble's denial through reporters, then left his office and charged the pitcher in the clubhouse. Several players separated them as Piniella called Dibble a liar.

When reporters were allowed to return to the clubhouse, Piniella had nothing more to say.

"You all saw it," Piniella said. "Write it."

http://articles.latimes.com/1992-09-18/sports/sp-723_1_major-league

The video was awesome

TJ surgery rip Stevie

damn

might as well get it over with now i guess rather than when they're ready to contend

oh shit

STEVE PHILLIPS WAS RIGHT

EXPOS CURSE

ok so how did the first MRI miss a "significant tear"?

the second one used the dye so they can see stuff better

i wonder if there was some damage previously when he was on the DL before and they missed it

1st dl was for shoulder inflammation

oh yeah. anyway this sucks. i wasn't aware dusty baker was giving the nats advice on how to handle him.

they've been absurdly conservative with him pitchcount-wise, there's no way that this is workload-related like prior probably was

if anything, they were probably too conservative, like if your ace ends up conditioned to throw only 90 pitches per start then that's a problem in the future

(j/k)

i guess we'll see him again in 2012, then.

dibble probably still thinks he should pitch through it

nats could be good in like 2013 if harper comes out of the gate strong, otherwise they're gonna have to find some more talent somewhere. they drafted well this year so we'll see...

this was fun while it lasted though!!

we should just replace pitchers w/ pitching machines imo

maybe people will actually pay attention to mat latos now

YOU IN MY WORLD NOW SON

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That might be the least accurate bobblehead ever made on the table there. (It is smiling.)

Max otm

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Four RIPs in this thread.

Keep it up.

shades of Francisco Liriano immfho

excess of snark in this thread is kinda foul.

FLir 2006:
12-3, 2.16, 1.00, .205

oh drop the act morbs, why don't you go rejoice in the phillies thread about injuries to utley, shanevic, howard, etc.

lol @ morbs

http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/Images/Pitchers/StephenStrasburg/StephenStrasburg_001.jpg
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http://www.tmarchman.com/ic/2010/8/27/shocked-shocked.html

Yeah those guys all had the exact same problems... wait a second no they didn't.

not workload related, mechanics related imo. throwing curves is hard on a dude's arm. every time I hear about somebody who's throwing some insanely fast can't-believe-it curve I assume he'll be needing surgery before long

it's not a big deal that stras needs tommy john. it will be a big deal if he can stay healthy for 3-4 years upon coming back.

eh, it's a little bit of a deal to be needing surgery that young imo. Tommy John had been pitching for eleven years when he got it.

true--i don't have data to back this up but i'm guessing they're more aggressive these days in just saying "go get it done." like maybe 10 years ago stras would've gone on the dl for a bit, come back, been less effective, and it just would have been a big waste of time.

dudes in high school are getting tommy john surgery these days and coming out better than they were before but yeah it's not something anyone wants to go through

very time I hear about somebody who's

[pitching at any level--majors, minors, high school--level]