Barry Bonds is the DEVIL!!!

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You can write and say whatever you want about Barry Bonds now. He's the new O.J. Simpson, on trial for threatening to murder the legacies of Babe Ruth and Hank Aaron.


Even though it certainly appears Barry juiced on his way to 700 home runs, it doesn't seem fair that he's receiving the same treatment as The Juice.

But, make no mistake, with Barry on the brink of surpassing Ruth, it's time for sportswriters to cash in and crucify Barry for money. Geraldo Rivera must be livid he's a poor writer. Barry-bashing in print will get you the lead on "SportsCenter" and put you on the cover of Sports Illustrated and in ESPN The Magazine.

Two San Francisco sportswriters proved beyond a shadow of a publisher's doubt that Bonds ingested steroids and human growth hormone throughout the late '90s and early in the new millennium. Now, another sports scribe is unveiling his Barry book, and it details the motivation for Barry's love of the juice.

Can you believe this? Barry Bonds used steroids because muscle-bound bombers Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa "saved baseball" by stroking 136 combined homers during a magical 1998 duel.

Not only is Barry a cheat, a boorish ass, a womanizer and a tax evader, he's also capable of being jealous.

Yep, according to writer Jeff Pearlman, Barry told Ken Griffey Jr. and several other unnamed dinner companions that he was joining the baseball arms race and was willing to stick needles in his rear end to do it.

Pearlman, who was not at the alleged dinner as far as we know, quoted Barry's message to Griffey and Co. verbatim:

"You know what? I had a helluva season last year, and nobody gave a crap. Nobody. As much as I've complained about McGwire and Canseco and all of the bull with steroids, I'm tired of fighting it. I turn 35 this year. I've got three or four good seasons left, and I wanna get paid. I'm just gonna start using some hard-core stuff, and hopefully it won't hurt my body. Then I'll get out of the game and be done with it."

Wow. Someone has a photographic memory, or took very detailed notes of a 1998 meeting. Or maybe Pearlman has been sitting on that little nugget for seven years. Whatever the case, it doesn't matter now. You can write or say anything about Bonds. We're 99.99 percent sure he took steroids, and we're 100 percent sure we don't want him to pass Babe Ruth on the home run chart.

Sportswriters and broadcasters want this so bad that some of them are pushing for Bud Selig to suspend Bonds this season. Not only did Bonds cheat -- just like 75 percent of the players, according to Ken Caminiti, a far more credible source than uninvolved sportswriters -- but he was driven by jealousy.

The latter crime is what cracks me up about the latest attack on Bonds.

People are genuinely upset that Bonds grew frustrated with baseball's unwillingness to address the steroid issue and sportswriters' celebration of McGwire's chemically enhanced "magical season" and basically said, "If I can't beat 'em, I might as well join 'em."

If McGwire, Sosa, money-hungry owners and spineless, jersey-chasing, look-the-other-way, hypocritical baseball writers caused Bonds to use steroids, then I feel sorry for Bonds.

He's a victim in all of this, no different than the kids who turn to steroids because they want to be just like Barry Bonds.

During the McGwire-Sosa farce, the media sent the clear message that using steroids was OK. I'll quote Pearlman's book to make my point. Pearlman quoted Jay Canizaro, one of Bonds' teammates in 1999, saying this about Bonds:

"Hell, he took off his shirt the first day and his back just looked like a mountain of acne. Anybody who had any kind of intelligence or street smarts about them knew Barry was using some serious stuff."

And I'm supposed to believe the same thing couldn't be said about McGwire?

Balls were flying out of parks at a record clip, players' biceps and shoulders were expanding at a record clip, and all we heard were a bunch of smoke-screen stories about juiced baseballs and an andro bottle in McGwire's locker.

Gimme a break.

The excerpt from Pearlman's book humanizes Bonds. He's driven by the same emotions as the rest of us. Jealousy is a vice we all carry. It's great that Ken Griffey Jr. didn't succumb to his feelings of jealousy. More power to him.

But there are reasons we establish laws and rules. It's because most of us can't control ourselves without them. If police never handed out speeding tickets, most of us would ignore the signs and drive as fast as we wanted. If there were no penalties for defaulting on a debt, many of us would not pay our bills.

Bonds watched his peers get rewarded for apparently cheating. The whole country saluted McGwire. If baseball purists, the seamheads who allegedly care about the game, called BS on McGwire and Sosa and celebrated Bonds' truly astonishing 400/400 feat, Bonds likely wouldn't be nipping at Ruth's heels today.

But we didn't do that. No one imagined Bonds' challenging Ruth's legacy as the greatest slugger of all time. So now Bonds must be vilified, disgraced and, if we're lucky, run out of baseball. He can't do what Jason Giambi and almost every steroid cheat has done.

Why can't he?

gear (gear), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Why are all (more accurately: ESPN-involved) media personalities (Whitlock excepted... this time) such douchebags? Is it a job requirement? Are sports fans just such assholes the talking heads have to keep up?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 04:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Not only did Bonds cheat -- just like 75 percent of the players, according to Ken Caminiti, a far more credible source than uninvolved sportswriters

!!!

And what's this, a Jason Whitlock column that doesn't accuse* an entire sports league of being racists? STFU!

* unless you want to take the McGwire and Giambi references and read between the lives, which is probably the smart thing to do.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 06:05 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.drudgereport.com/siren.gifBONDS STRIKES OUT IN FIRST SPRING TRAINING AT BAThttp://www.drudgereport.com/siren.gif

SCOTTSDALE, Arizona (AP) Barry Bonds, the only player in baseball history alleged to have taken any form of Performance Enhancing Drugs, gave the baseball world a grim forecast of the rest of his season by striking out. Bonds stood powerless as the sixth pitch of his first Spring Training at-bat in 2 seasons nipped the outside corner for a third and final strike.

Home plate umpire Bill Sharpley added "Stee-ike fwee, OAWT" for emphasis.

Despite going 5-6 with 3 singles and 2 homeruns since, this first at-bat shows that being the focus of all the negative attention this offseason has clearly affected his game. And this is only the begginning. Bonds season will be an uphill battle all the way, facing mean-spirited crowds and taunts for the very first time in his career.

...DEVELOPING....

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"for the very first time in his career"

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry that was my poor attempt at Yard Work.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

...very poor.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Well he hit another one out today... This is getting ridiculous.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

He's tracking so far:

.777 BA / .700 OPB / 1.700 SLG = 2.400 OPS

3 singles, 1 double, 3 homeruns, 1 sac bunt, 2 strikeouts, 0 walks (it's spring training)

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Not only do the Yankees have 2 (TWO) players involved in BALCO cream/clear/HGH scenario, but also one of their reserve outfielders tested positive for anabolic steroid use last season.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/giambi1103.gif

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.homeruncards.com/imagesrc/mcgwire87tp.jpg

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link

From an excerpt from the SF Comical BALCO book:

"Over the first 13 seasons of his career ... Bonds hit .290 and averaged 32 home runs and 93 RBI. ... But in the six seasons after he began using performance-enhancing drugs -- that is, ... between the ages of 34 and 40 -- Bonds's batting averaged .328, 39, and 105."

See here folks, RBIs are dependent on steroids. This is THE TRUTH.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm hoping that all the morons I play Rotisserie with will let me pick him up cheap.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Thursday, 23 March 2006 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I got him in the 9th round in the for-money league I'm playing in this year. 14 teams, too, couldn't believe it.

mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 23 March 2006 02:43 (eighteen years ago) link

http://bondstime.ytmnd.com/

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Thursday, 23 March 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm hoping that all the morons I play Rotisserie with will let me pick him up cheap.

erm... is that us??

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 23 March 2006 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Nah, I play fantasy with ILB. Rotisserie = my money leagues. I got drafted into a third this year.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 24 March 2006 01:51 (eighteen years ago) link

3? wow.

i lurked on ILB during the playoff/series, it was kind of dead here. surprised to see it get this busy in the off-season -- i'm guessing it's cos of fantasy leagues? don't do em myself, figure i'd get too into it.

i've been wanting to ask this, do people get into rotisserie because they're stats heads or do they become stats heads because they're into rotisserie?

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Friday, 24 March 2006 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what you were looking at during the playoffs, because virtually every playoff series thread contains hundreds of posts.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 March 2006 03:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I got into roto/fantasy because my parents did it. They started one of the first for-money fantasy leagues in the '80s, I remember my dad doing all the stats by hand using USA Today box scores and Baseball Weekly stats, keeping detailed records of adds/drops to subtract out stats. It was crazy.

Then we paid a stat service in New York where you phoned in transactions by numbers assigned to each player, and they mailed a weekly standings and stats packet to each player.

I don't see much of a correlation between stathead interest and roto interest. On the stat side you've got a lot of people like Morbius who despise it, and roto leagues by their nature (wins, era, saves) don't lend themselves to stat-headism. I'm hoping next year to talk people into changing one of our money leagues to something more stat friendly - OPS, k-rate, etc.., for a change of pace.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:14 (eighteen years ago) link

The one link I've seen written about is that good roto managers run their teams like a smart GM - don't overpay for a bunch of middling players go ahead and pay the big bucks for Pujols, go with a 70/30 money split hitting/pitching, don't bet big on aging starters, etc..

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 24 March 2006 04:15 (eighteen years ago) link

On the stat side you've got a lot of people like Morbius who despise it

Um, I consider myself on the root-root-root-for-the-real-team side. (And many of you have a better idea of what VORP and BABIP mean than I do.) If you look at the Baseball Prospectus site these days, those guys play plenty of roto, and are playing this game for charity:

http://www.scoresheet.com/baseball/index.html


and roto leagues by their nature (wins, era, saves) don't lend themselves to stat-headism.

Unless you change the stats.

Back to Topic Bighead... Jim Baker of BP thinks he's sunk HOFwise; unless PEDs become accepted in the culture. anyone agree?


"What are Bonds' chances at the Hall of Fame? From the sound of things, they're not very good. The general stinginess of the voting committee does not bode well for him and if I were Mark McGwire, I wouldn’t be busting out the scenic New York state tourist brochures anytime soon, either....he is not well-positioned emotionally to rehabilitate his image. He is not the type to cultivate favor among the press. A tear-stained mea culpa is not likely on his agenda. Even if he could conjure such an out of character performance, it is highly unlikely that voters will give him a pass on his transgressions and judge him on the merits of his pre-enhancement days. I think he’s pretty much hosed unless he saves 10 or 20 babies from a burning building at some point in the next few years. Even then, those babies had better be related to men on the voting committee.

Unless…

Things change. A lot.

This is a stretch but there may come a time many decades down the line wherein performance enhancement is no longer a cause celeb. It could be that 30, 40 or 50 years from now researchers will have found a way to artificially improve the human physique and abilities without nasty side effects. These artificial improvements will become commonplace and accepted. In a climate such as that, it could be possible for a Hall of Fame veterans committee to look back at what Bonds did and either wonder what all the fuss was about or, stranger still, see him as some sort of pioneer in the proper method for artificial self-improvement. It’s not the sort of future I would endorse, but, given the great strides made in that direction so far, it is one that is certainly possible."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 March 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Bonds' lawyer is suing the 2 SF Chronicle reporters, not to prevent the sale and distribution of the book, but to prevent them from profitting from any proceeds.

The lawsuit is built around California's Unfair Competition Law, Business and Professions Code section 17200, that states if one person is able to market something by committing an unlawful act, it puts others who act lawfully at an unfair disadvantage.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 March 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry, still new here. have we done 2006 HR predictions? I say 48.

meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Saturday, 25 March 2006 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Is that homers or games played? or both?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 25 March 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

You really gotta hand it to the media... they never, ever give up:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bonds-homelessaunt&prov=ap&type=lgns

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

2 things:

1) i had no idea he only needed 47 HRs to tie when i made that prediction upthread

2) viewing ESPN's Bonds on Bonds right now. he's not exactly coming across as humble. anyone else watching?

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone ever suspect he was humble?

I only caught the last 15 mins or so, complete w/ "I don't give a shit" sobbing. For a BB propaganda show, this martyr stuff is not a wise angle. (People kvetching over ESPN like it's a news organization make me laugh, tho.)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

it's actually a brilliant strategy form a programming standpoint. i mean, they've done as much to stoke the barry controversy as anyone and this is the most flagrant example of them profiting off of it.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

that story about the aunt is pretty sad, re: health insurance in this country.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

you'd think Mike Schmidt would pay for it, judging from the way he was kissing Barry's ass in that ESPN special.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

and considering it's coming from a man i've referred to as Chuck Colostomy Bag, i'm surprised this was so insightful.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Friday, 14 April 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Minor points (OK, just one) for the Crash shot (Parentheses Perry and Empress Hot Lips really are alone on that one), but

>>But baseball is still the intellectual game; it's the game most compelling to the likes of Ken Burns and George Will and Yo La Tengo>Baseball is the only sport where numbers always seem meaningful, and it's the only sport where a numeric comparison between players of different eras is even halfway reasonable.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 April 2006 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

709

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 22 April 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

for awhile that "Bond HR Watch" on Yahoo's MLB page seemed to be mocking.

gear (gear), Sunday, 23 April 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Bonds

gear (gear), Sunday, 23 April 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

He still has as many home runs as Omar Vizquel this year.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 23 April 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

it occurred to me this morning, with Bonds' "won't pass Aaron with this bum knee" shtick, wouldn't he be better off as a DH in the American League? Or would learning so many new pitchers wipe out that incremental benefit?

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Or would learning so many new pitchers wipe out that incremental benefit?

I don't have the stat handy but Barry has hit more homeruns off more pitchers than anyone in history by a large margin. This isn't the Babe Ruth days...

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Not to mention that half of the pitchers in the AL used to pitch in the NL, and many of the rest have come through town via interleague play.

As far as the DH thing goes, Bonds is the Giants only marquee player. until last year, he was perpetually healthy and the best player in baseball. So the Giants signed him to a long-term contract. That contract backfired in 2005, and in 2006 he has been a liability SO FAR. But

(1) would the Giants trade their main draw in a trade that couldn't possibly yield any real value
(2) would anyone want a gimpy dh who will probably be booed by the home fans and makes $20mil per year?
(3) would bonds accept the trade, given that the yankees, sox, a's, tribe and chisox have a dh already, and that the remainder of the contenders can't afford him? that leaves a bunch of teams that bonds probably wouldn't accept a trade to, being a 10-5 guy.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

(3) would bonds accept the trade, given that the yankees, sox, a's, tribe and chisox have a dh already

dude, bernie williams...

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't think bb would want to go out like babe ruth did, gimping around in brooklyn.

gear (gear), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link

(Ruth gimped around in Boston)

Bonds changes his mind on this stuff every week. His knee must feel like shit this week. Next week if it's feeling better and he hits a couple of dingers he'll say he'll play until he passes Aaron or drops dead, whichever comes first. This honestly wouldn't surprise me.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

right you are!

i don't think he's gonna pass aaron, though.

gear (gear), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

dude, bernie williams...

Bernie hasn't DHed for the Bombers in approximately two weeks, and to my knowledge the Yankees don't plan to put him back in there, and Giambi is effectively the DH at this point. I could be wrong, but hey.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 24 April 2006 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link

well I wasn't really pondering the viability of a trade -- obviously he's in San Fran til the end. I was just wondering if removing the strain on his knee from his OF duties would make much of a difference at this point.

jinx hijinks (sanskrit), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link


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