monochromes and hard edged abstraction

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btw 80% of those r not hard edged

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.deutscherandhackett.com/catalogue16/images/large/D&H_005.jpg

Rosalie Gascoigne. A lot of her work was made from old road signs.

jabulani hands (S-), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 10:55 (fifteen years ago)

btw 80% of those r not hard edged

I think we need a general thread on abstraction.

Janet Privacy Control (corey), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 14:02 (fifteen years ago)

That Brice Marden above is obviously not hard edged, but dude does have some monochromes in him:

http://images.nymag.com/arts/art/reviews/marden061030_2_560.jpg

I'm banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return (EDB), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

http://s3.artknowledgenews.com/files/BriceMardenForPearl.jpg

i coulda sworn i posted this upthread, idk, i did post a pretty awesome video of him talking abt bob dylan painting

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

such an awesome painter in all phases tho, i kinda go back and forth about when i like him most

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

plax who did the first yellow painting at the top of the thread?

Janet Privacy Control (corey), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

richard aldrich

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.bortolamigallery.com/artists/richard-aldrich/

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:35 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks! This thread has also made me interested in Ellsworth Kelly. The Art Institute museum has some of his work. I'm gonna try and go this week.

Janet Privacy Control (corey), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

ellsworth kelly is pretty unbelievable tbh

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:48 (fifteen years ago)

This Aldrich painting really reminds me of Guston's mid-period work:

http://www.bortolamigallery.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/aldrich_7.jpg

Janet Privacy Control (corey), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

not hard-edged, obv.

Janet Privacy Control (corey), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

plax, can you talk a bit about where something might or might not be called hard edged? is it as simple as it might suggest, i.e. minimum of colours, simplest geometry, etc etc. i'd been reading about it online just a few days before finding this thread, but i couldn't find any helpful definitions. could Tomma Abts be hard-edged, for example? or would it kind of redundant to split hairs on such differences now?

Tomma Abts
http://re-title.com/public/mailimages/November08-painting/Tomma-Abts.jpg

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

that's probably not the best example from her work. i'm guessing not, anyway.

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 16:23 (fifteen years ago)

This style has an almost intellectual approach, as compared to the spontaneous and emotional approach seen in Abstract Expressionism. Hard-edge paintings reflect calculated and impersonal feel. These paintings sometimes seem machine generated, owing to their being very precise and explicitly expression in the form of straight lines.
Frank Stella aptly described the Hard-edge painting style by saying, "What you see is what you see."

that'll do. as you were...

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i guess the simplest definition of hard edged abstraction is that it requires clean transitions from one area of flat colour to the next. I guess its seen as being paradigmatic of modernism, that it somehow inherently expresses something about painting in its purest form. Obv I think this is pretty problematic when you look at its origins in russian constructivism or the bauhaus where there it obviously shares a history w/ graphic design or its reappropriation or subversion later gens including (arguably) eg. Abts or even in its Post-Painterly Abstraction heyday when someone like Ellsworth Kelly seemed to be making things that were highly coded w/ a Pop sensibility. I think this thread is a better history though because it is images.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 16:54 (fifteen years ago)

Ellsworth Kelly is my favorite painter ever.

I DIED, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)

Re: Ellsworth Kelley love: OTM!

I'm banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return (EDB), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:47 (fifteen years ago)

My favourite work of his was already posted, but what the hay:

http://liannemscott.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/ellsworth_kelly_spectrum-vi-in-13-parts.jpg

I'm banishing you to a time warp from which you will never return (EDB), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:48 (fifteen years ago)

yah better img tho!

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

prize for most wtf omission so far goes to ruth root btw

http://www.contemporaryartdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/RUTH_ROOT_002-500x333.jpg

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:55 (fifteen years ago)

i mean for real

http://www.hmorikawa.com/RR1.jpg

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.arteinformado.com/documentos/eventos/16064/Untitled,_2008.jpg

plax (ico), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 17:57 (fifteen years ago)

Jean Arp

http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/citi/images/standard/WebLarge/WebImg_000101/141056_863060.jpg

Joanie Loves Shakuhachi (corey), Thursday, 12 August 2010 05:23 (fifteen years ago)

so the barnett newman from the OP has been in the art press a lot lately bc of the controversy over the director of the national gallery of canada. this "secret history" essay from greg.org is hilarious and really interesting. good read.

http://greg.org/archive/2010/08/18/voice_of_the_taxpayer_1990_by_john_czupryniak.html

plax (ico), Friday, 20 August 2010 22:35 (fifteen years ago)

Lately, as in like, this year?

If you study art history in Canada, as I do, you hear about the VOF controversy non-stop. I actually had a class once that was solely dedicated to it.

Garth December, virulent food critic (EDB), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 23:01 (fifteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

Subtitles kind of ruin it, but you get the picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVaC3XKSi5M&feature=related

EDB, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

A spot of Palazuelo iydm

http://www.artenovance.com/images/lithographie-estampe-originale-pablo-palazuelo-03_460.jpg

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.artespain.com/wp-content/uploads/palazuelo2.jpg

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 19:18 (fifteen years ago)

missing notable ilx poster plaxico

Matt P, Wednesday, 29 September 2010 19:29 (fifteen years ago)

Lately, as in like, this year?

If you study art history in Canada, as I do, you hear about the VOF controversy non-stop. I actually had a class once that was solely dedicated to it.

― Garth December, virulent food critic (EDB), Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:01 PM (1 month ago)

i didn't mean the voices of fire controversy was recent. there have been calls for the director of the museum to resign and shit in the last year. its been all over the blogs. every country has a public uproar over meaningless modern art controversy (cf. the tate and equivalent vii for eg.) but the greg.org thing is really funny.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:01 (fifteen years ago)

not so much that somebody "did their own newman" there's always some db, but the critical reception.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)

thats been bothering me. btw i'm going to this show tomorrow:

http://calgaryculture.com/content/softcore-hard-edge

plax (ico), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 01:03 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwCOn5q5QYc

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 14:35 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwCOn5q5QYc

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:29 (fifteen years ago)

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo305/lejospopo/2633d783.jpg

sherrie levine

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 23:08 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGwbGjbtjQQ&feature

plax (ico), Thursday, 11 November 2010 04:50 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

Ok wow this thread. I think I'm getting really into this sort of stuff.

cowboy bibimbap (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 24 December 2010 00:23 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

how have i just now seen this thread??

oOoOO on the TLC tip (donna rouge), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:02 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.kuttnersiebert.de/artists/haggerty/pics/haggerty2010/hagg10-002.jpg

what the fuck who is this tell me everything about this

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 27 January 2011 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://boldongrey.at/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/gerwald_rockenschaub_01.jpg

Gerwald Rockenschaub

plax (ico), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec_9zr8whTw

plax (ico), Monday, 11 April 2011 11:11 (fifteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I love plax. Also this thread. Also monochromes and hard edged abstraction.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 15:50 (fifteen years ago)

Xpost: I saw Ray Gun Virus at the MOMA a few days ago. Absolutely mesmerizing. I love Sharits, and seeing his work in person, projected in full size, and in a dark room, with the sound of the projector there, is a totally different (i.e. much more affective) experience.

EDB, Monday, 9 May 2011 19:07 (fifteen years ago)

Also, really like these Glenn Ligon text-monochromes:

http://www.moma.org/images/dynamic_content/exhibition_page/25952.jpg

EDB, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:00 (fifteen years ago)

This is a much better image:

http://whitney.org/image_columns/0029/1753/stop-313_446.jpg

EDB, Monday, 9 May 2011 23:03 (fifteen years ago)

moma is where i saw ray gun virus too! totally amazing to me, really blew me away, was completely unaware of sharits before. Im working on a zine that im calling monochromes and each issue will have a different theme but the theme will always relate to the monochrome. Love those glenn ligon ones and i was gonna maybe do the next issue all about him. reading derrida for the first time and i always feel like, even though i've never really read much by derrida, that he's always on the periphery (lol) of how i think about things so, idk this sense of the palimpsest but also the raw remainder. like its so haunted by ab-ex, this all over abstraction but also explicitly textual and unearthing the implicitly textual in ab-ex, the guston-like skin: wounded, scarred, pillaged, and marked. and like blackness and racism and history and all that

but yeah monochromes especially have been on my mind a lot recently, also been thinking about certain lawrence wiener pieces in relation to this eg.

"Three minutes of forty-pound pressure spray of white highway paint upon a well-tended lawn
The lawn is allowed to grow and not tended until the grass is free of all vestiges of white highway paint"

and how that sort of simultaneously elides and converges w/ how i would think of say ellsworth kelly and the relationship w/e the optical, the immersive, the formal and the textual.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 10 May 2011 22:27 (fifteen years ago)


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