Howard Hawks

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I think he may be my favorite director.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 May 2003 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"When I'm getting serious about a girl, I show her Rio Bravo and she better fucking like it." - Quentin Tarantino

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 May 2003 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link

God, Quentin Tarantino is such a dork. Howard Hawks is great, though. Have you seen Red Line 7000?

amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Hawks is my favourite American director. The ability to do crime thrillers and westerns and comedies that I love is very remarkable indeed, I think. And Bringing Up Baby is one of my five all-time favourites.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.ffc.freeler.nl/Redline7000book.jpg

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 9 May 2003 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
I like Hawks even more now, if possible. I saw To Have and Have Not for the third time yesterday, it is quite possibly the most perfect Hollywood film of all time. I love that funny little slinky dance Lauren Bacall does when she's walking out at the very end.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

For some reason I read this thread as Hudson Hawk (God help us). Speaking of which, what the hell ever happened to Danny Aiello?

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 11 January 2004 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

any Land of the Pharaohs advocates? showing tnite in NYC Late Hawks series.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 June 2008 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

The Big Sky is a good one! just a notch below Red River etc.

Dr Morbius, Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Molly & Andrew:

http://www.movingimagesource.us/articles/bringing-up-hawks-20080925

Dr Morbius, Friday, 26 September 2008 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link

watched Only Angels Have Wings recently and couldn't get past what a douche cary grant's character was. i liked how the woman who starts off seeming like the main character disappears after the more interesting grant shows up, though.

abanana, Monday, 29 September 2008 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

El Dorado is a kind of underwhelming Rio Bravo remix. James Caan's wig is funny.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Following a screening of Anatomy of a Murder the other night, a friend and I wondered whether Jimmy Stewart had worked with more (generally-agreed-upon) great directors than any other actor from the studio era. Hawks' name came up, and we couldn't think of a film of his that featured Stewart. I took a quick scroll through Stewart's IMDB page and couldn't spot a Hawks film. Did I miss something small (or maybe even famous--I looked over the list quickly), or did they indeed never work together?

clemenza, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

can't think of one. Stewart did his westerns for other ppl, and HH's comedy style is a bit too wild for JS.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

finally saw Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. Marilyn very funny, Jane formidable, too bad about the plotty tiara stuff toward the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pthokb18V7U&feature=related

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 August 2010 04:49 (eleven years ago) link

Allan Carr would have had his jaw wired shut twice over to have had a scene like that in one of his movies. Oh wait.

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 00:56 (eleven years ago) link

iirc hawks didn't actually direct any of the musical sequences?

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 17 August 2010 05:48 (eleven years ago) link

Apparently that's correct. It was Jack Cole.

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

Wow. Here's an article about Jack Cole's work, particularly with Marilyn: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug/09/entertainment/ca-marilyn-monroe9

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 13:27 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, he choreographed Gilda.

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 13:33 (eleven years ago) link

iirc hawks didn't actually direct any of the musical sequences?
― Ward Fowler

Apparently that's correct. It was Jack Cole.
― Bali Eiffel Tower Hai

That knowledge (and the scene Morbs posted) goes a long way toward explaining my love for GPB, despite being more or less indifferent to Hawks.

2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 13:38 (eleven years ago) link

Just finished that latimes article. Extremely interesting.

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 13:45 (eleven years ago) link

OK, one more link: http://artsmeme.com/tag/jack-cole/

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

I'd read that HH didn't "direct" the numbers, but neither did a lot of the credited directors on big musicals (unless they had a background in such things).

So Eric, are you challenging Armond's assertion that GPB is "the most heterosexual" classic film musical?

http://www.nypress.com/article-21493-gentlemen-prefer-curves.html

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks – now I've no interest in watching it.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

I ain't challenging Armond on shit.

2 + 2 is vah-gi-nah (Eric H.), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

Soto, it's str8, not narrow.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

finally saw His Girl Friday, Jennifer Jason Leigh took her entire character in Hudsucker from the "without a quiver" line

LA river flood (lukas), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

All an armond has to do to refute himself is watch Morbius's youtube link a few posts upthread.

Bali Eiffel Tower Hai (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 17 August 2010 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

There's a moment in Only Angels Have Wings when Cary Grant breaks up a fistfight started by Thomas Mitchell. First he pulls him apart; then, failing, he punches him. But he almost immediately regrets it and within milliseconds is slapping his best friend conscious.

The sequence lasts a minute if that but exhibits so much of the physical grace Hawks is known for, and how Cary Grant understood film acting better than any actor in the so-called Golden Age.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:25 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Saw The Dawn Patrol (I think for the first time) yesterday, truly an archetypal flyboy piece -- homosocial love btwn Barthelmess and Fairbanks Jr def more physical than it was in the Errol Flynn remake.

Today The Egyptian!

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:19 (eight years ago) link

isn't Hatari! screening somewhere in NYC this week?

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:19 (eight years ago) link

duhhh, I mean Land of the Pharaohs. xp

yes, right after LotP. Have seen it in a theater before, probably aint doing another 150 mins today.

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:22 (eight years ago) link

is it wort the watch? The auteurist affection has put me off for years

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:23 (eight years ago) link

I remember liking it.

http://www.movingimage.us/films/2013/09/07/detail/the-complete-howard-hawks/

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:27 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ceiling Zero is a blast, must be in the top 3 of Cagney-O'Brien pics. The fast-paced comedy dialogue in the first half is the uncredited work of Morrie Ryskind, frequent writer for thr Marx Bros. Besides starting out like an aviation version of The Front Page, the working crew and airborne tragedy are clearly a dry run for Only Angels Have Wings.

Finally saw Come and Get It, from which HH was fired with Wyler finishing up. Edna Ferber all right, this is Giant with timber in place of oil (and an hour shorter thank God). Frances Farmer is almost all that, and she gets to pull taffy with Joel McCrea. Walter Brennan won an Oscar for stealing El Brendel's "YUMPIN' YIMINY!"

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 November 2013 18:13 (seven years ago) link

saw it on video a decade ago and I couldn't distinguish the Wyler from the Hawks stuff; agree about Farmer.

Richard Brody said nice things about The Road to Glory but not out on DVD.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 November 2013 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Hawks said in his Bogdo interview that Farmer was the best performer he'd ever worked with.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 November 2013 18:17 (seven years ago) link

Wyler did the last 30 mins, more or less.

the movie suddenly becomes rather restrained, and before you know it, there's a garden party going on.

http://selfstyledsiren.blogspot.com/2007/03/strange-fame-of-frances-farmer-part-two.html

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 November 2013 18:22 (seven years ago) link

The Big Sky is pretty hard to see, def one of my underrated faves; winds up the Astoria fest this Sunday night.

http://www.movingimage.us/visit/calendar/2013/11/10/detail/the-big-sky

eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:27 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

“Many westerns have been self-consciously conceived on an epic scale, but Howard Hawks’s Red River, in its deepest channels, actually feels like an ancient epic.”

http://www.criterion.com/current/posts/3176-red-river-the-longest-drive

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 June 2014 05:20 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

i'm thinking the first hour of Ball of Fire may be the best thing Brackett & Wilder ever wrote.

skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 04:34 (five years ago) link

This reminds of story I need to tell you about going many years ago to Lincoln Center to see discussion about auteur theory. Really.

Instant Karmagideon Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 December 2015 01:32 (five years ago) link

one year passes...
two years pass...

watched Rio Bravo for the first time the other day

Yes

flappy bird, Saturday, 18 July 2020 05:51 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

I like Ball of Fire, but His Girl Friday and Bringing Up Baby are classics

Dan S, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 04:04 (eleven months ago) link

ctrl-f The Thing from Another World

Brad C., Wednesday, 11 November 2020 04:35 (eleven months ago) link

three months pass...

saw a bunch more of his films recently

The Big Sleep was incredibly convoluted, even on second viewing. Maybe it was a great film, but I don't know

Thought Red River and Rio Bravo were great, Hatari! was interesting but I wondered about its treatment of the wild animals

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 01:16 (eight months ago) link

Gentlemen Prefer Blondes was very enjoyable I thought

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 01:31 (eight months ago) link

Read Todd McCarthy's Hawks bio in January, this was maybe the most revelatory bit:

The final scene of what would’ve been Howard Hawks’ final film, When It’s Hot Play It Cool, written by the man himself circa 1976. pic.twitter.com/Iihua7IbVC

— Nicky Smith (@nickyotissmith) January 24, 2021

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 02:00 (eight months ago) link

Dan, no one involved in the making of The Big Sleep had any idea what was going on either, the trick is to sit back and enjoy. Hawks thought plot didn't matter.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 11:28 (eight months ago) link

it was interesting enough that I want to see it again

Dan S, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 00:26 (eight months ago) link

haven't seen Doris Day in any of her films with Rock Hudson yet, but I thought Paula Prentiss's loopy performance was really appealing opposite him in Hawks' "Man's Favorite Sport?"

Dan S, Saturday, 27 February 2021 00:54 (seven months ago) link


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