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after watching Beau Travail i hereby decalre she's the best french director (and one of the best directors in general) working today.
the best editing ive seen in years in this movie, and a wonderful cinematography.
it's a miracle how she always keeps the balance between abstract and humanism, a combination that get it's ultimate expression at the final,dancing scene.

it was even better than 35 Shots Of Rum.

Zeno, Monday, 15 February 2010 01:47 (nine years ago) link

looking back, the whole french horror film trend of women completely drenched in blood is largely her doing

http://www.reverseshot.com/files/images/issue25/trouble.jpg

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 15 February 2010 03:38 (nine years ago) link

^ film #40 in my 00s film ballot btw

鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 15 February 2010 03:39 (nine years ago) link

She hasn't surpassed Chocolat (Beau Travail: I prefer my erotic contemplation a little more kinetic), but I can't wait to watch Rum.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 February 2010 03:40 (nine years ago) link

this is weird because i was going to search for this thread today and forgot to. i just watched beau travail and you're right it's awesome. 35 shots of rum is in queue.

this is awful I want Togo home (harbl), Monday, 15 February 2010 03:40 (nine years ago) link

my favorite director, i think. also i love beatrice dalle

chocolat was her most conventional though! haven't seen '35 shots of rum' yet, and there's a 2009 film as well the title of which escapes me.. was on film comment end of year list, the one of films that haven't been distributed in the US.

daria-g, Monday, 15 February 2010 05:47 (nine years ago) link

it'a called White Material, and from early reviews it seems to go back to The Intruder style (as oppose to the more conventional and warm 35 Rums), but it's not as successful as the former.
it doesnt have a distributer for France or U.S yet, although Isabelle Huppert is in the cast.

Zeno, Monday, 15 February 2010 08:20 (nine years ago) link

i've heard the opposite of reviews - it apparently occupies similar territory to chocolat and is great.

my favorite director, i think.

yeah. even 'minor' denis is great - looking back on the last few films i tend to forget trouble every day and vendredi soir, but they're both great, the latter in particular (& probably the closest to rhums)

has anyone seen her earlier, non-chocolat stuff? she made a docu on a french group called something like mannorun that's meant to be very good.

Norman Mail (schlump), Monday, 15 February 2010 12:11 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

35 Shots of Rum tonight!

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 April 2010 20:55 (nine years ago) link

still haven't seen it

i was listening to one of the cinema shows on france culture radio.. projection privee, they interviewed claire denis for the whole show the week of april 3. at some point the interviewer asked about the title of 'white material' and she told this funny story about someone at a screening who mistakenly called it 'white trash' and she was like well yeah kinda! she didn't work with agnes godard on that one, it was the cinematographer who usually works with dumont.

she is the head of jury in Canees 2010 Un Certain Regard

Zeno, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:29 (nine years ago) link

well, Alfred?

I was kinda whelmed by White Material, and find Beau Travail a tad pretentious despite all the hot Legionnaires.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 April 2010 19:09 (nine years ago) link

kind of shrill and very self-righteous

… (Lamp), Friday, 23 April 2010 19:54 (nine years ago) link

i really like trouble every day but i like "cold" and "unflinching"

… (Lamp), Friday, 23 April 2010 19:55 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7j9iSbz0qc

<3 <3 <3

Gee, Officer (Gukbe), Friday, 21 May 2010 14:55 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

my favorite director, i think.

Mine, too.

35 Shots of Rum is perfect! Beau Travail is still her best, but Rum is up there. Alfred, I think Noé (Gregoire Colin's character) is much more sympathetic than you give him credit for. The key to the ending can be found in Ozu's Late Spring.

Cherish, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 00:18 (nine years ago) link

I'm going to rewatch it.

Is The Intruder worth a soak?

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 15:19 (nine years ago) link

The Intruder is definitely worth watching. It's much less linear than her other films. I'm not even sure what happens in it, especially in the second half. But, it's beautiful and fascinating, and, by the end, I felt like I was beginning to understand some things about the characters, even if I couldn't tell what parts of the movie were real and what were imagined/dreamed.

Cherish, Wednesday, 16 June 2010 00:08 (nine years ago) link

"The Intruder is definitely worth watching"

otm

very interesting film. while not everything works - some of the images (which are mainly about crossing physical and mental borders) are perfect.

Zeno, Thursday, 17 June 2010 09:17 (nine years ago) link

White Material is quite something... with Denis i'm never sure what the hell to think but "quite something" is usually about the extent of what i can come up with. it's very Denis, very immersive, it drops you right in in the middle of a situation and allows you to work things through or not depending on how involved you get. i was actually floundering for most of the film, trying to make the connections (on as simple a level as trying to work out who the hell people are as well as trying to fit together the deeper political social and familial framework). stylistically i would say it occupies an exact middle ground between chocolat and l'intrus. definitely worth seeking out.

jed_, Friday, 18 June 2010 23:49 (nine years ago) link

In terms of actors we have Huppert and Christopher Lambert, who i haven't seen in years. almost every other major part, and some of the minor ones, is played by an actor who has been in a Denis film before. Issac de Bankole, Michel Subor, Nicolas Duvauchelle, Adèle Ado...

DS: You use a lot of the same actors repeatedly, which creates a kind of ongoing dialogue between each of your films.

CD: It's not a career decision. When a film is over, I am missing those people, I want them a little more. One film is not enough with them, so we need another one. And it's the same with the people I'm working with. Like Agnés. I never have enough of them. I think life offers a lot of variation and diversity, but I enjoy this diversity with the people I like. We glance at each other and we know what we are doing without a word because we trust each other. And this feeling is great. And it doesn't mean it makes things easy, because also this sort of trust is very demanding. The need is always never to be frustrated, never to be tired of working together.

jed_, Saturday, 19 June 2010 00:00 (nine years ago) link

was gonna see 35 shots of rum on netflix but it's coming to a theater near me so i will wait. pumped tbh

Hans-Jörg Butt (harbl), Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:11 (nine years ago) link

White Material is showing here in a coupla weeks. 35 Rhums was great.

admrl, Saturday, 19 June 2010 01:25 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

I really enjoyed White Material, but found it to be rather simple. It could be the structuring which leads to a mood of foreboding (Tindersticks help massively here). While it is complex, I think it has a very particular view on colonialism and Huppert's character that is unbending. Really great film, all in all, but not up to the standard of 35 Shots of Rum (which I saw at the cinema again tonight), which has a magnificent ambiguity in regards to its central theme.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:07 (nine years ago) link

vendredi soir is still the only denis I've seen - it was so slight I just ignored her afterwards

have l'intrus and 35 shots sat here tho to watch as soon as I've digested assayas' carlos

cozen, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:20 (nine years ago) link

get with the program, cozen

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, 27 July 2010 23:21 (nine years ago) link

hopefully white material will show in my crap town...can't get enough of huppert especially in a denis film...

markholmes, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 02:57 (nine years ago) link

Really great film, all in all, but not up to the standard of 35 Shots of Rum (which I saw at the cinema again tonight), which has a magnificent ambiguity in regards to its central theme.

Gukbe, what do you mean by ambiguity in Rum? The only Denis film where I see real ambiguity is L'Intrus.

Cherish, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 14:56 (nine years ago) link

Well, no plot ambiguity, just character motivation as well as a twisting of the running theme of family and letting go. It seems to me (for a myriad of reasons, really) that Josephine SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS marries Noé to keep their family unit together. The bond and the strength and the comfort they've taken from those relationships might prevent Lionel or another one of them from ending up like René, but at the same time traps them.

orakle-krake (Gukbe), Wednesday, 28 July 2010 15:24 (nine years ago) link

Got it. Thanks. I interpret their motivations differently, but I see where you're coming from. And, there's some of the same sort of ambiguity of motivation in Ozu's Late Spring!

Cherish, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 15:43 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

anyone see no fear, no die? outside shorts and the rivette docu it's my one blank spot.

schlump, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 22:08 (nine years ago) link

I have. It's worth seeing, though it's lesser Denis. Isaach de Bankolé and Alex Descas give good, intense performances, as you'd expect. It has an extremely claustrophobic atmosphere, where seething resentments and racial tensions contribute to a man's slow breakdown. See it!

Cherish, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 16:07 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

should white material get its own thread?

/\/K/\/\, Saturday, 20 November 2010 03:02 (eight years ago) link

liked it a lot btw

/\/K/\/\, Saturday, 20 November 2010 03:03 (eight years ago) link

Weird -- watched a bit of I Can't Sleep two hours ago.

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 November 2010 03:12 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

bumping for Morbs' White Material input.

Gukbe, Sunday, 5 December 2010 16:31 (eight years ago) link

I thought White Material was pretty bad, and politically dodgy. Really disappointed after her last few films were so great.

big up yourself and encounter (admrl), Monday, 13 December 2010 21:20 (eight years ago) link

explain politically dodgy

Gukbe, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 04:57 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

beau travail looked GORGEOUS and i was watching on vhs

anyone seen Home ? - 08 isabelle huppert -- sounds cheesy but agnes godard

white material was playing down the street from me and i somehow didnt know abt it til its last night when i couldnt go :(

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 03:35 (eight years ago) link

watched Nenette et Boni a couple weeks ago — incredibly sensual but I had a problem understanding the characters' motivations.

corey, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 04:01 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

finally getting to White Material tomorrow (luscious Criterion edition).

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:14 (eight years ago) link

it is 50% off on Amazon today.

Gukbe, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:17 (eight years ago) link

No thanks!

My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 17:20 (eight years ago) link

semi-related: there's a beautiful pick from the white material score on the tindersticks sampler that came with sight and sound. it makes me want to check out the whole thing.

sensual bathtub (group: 698) (schlump), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 23:19 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

apparently she wrote an enthusiastic piece on kore-eda in cahiers, once. i wish i could find it. i have US Go Home queued up for some spare night soon.

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 13:59 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

oh wow u.s. go home. as good as the others, i wasn't expecting it.

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:25 (seven years ago) link

excellent. I didn't care for White Material.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:30 (seven years ago) link

i- i think i still have that confusion from white material, the way i did catching in the mood for love after chungking, expecting the latter so not knowing how to deal with the former. & i was so psyched for white material but, that it obviously wasn't giving me what i'd expected from 35 rhums, not necessarily in tone but just in such exquisite juxtaposition & montage, threw me. i feel like if i rescreened i'd probably admire greatly - it's breadth is a lot to take in at first, and the son's weird tangent feels like a digression. i liked its tension. that is probably what everyone says.

but i almost feel bad, thinking about white material while watching us go home, because i so just want her to do that, do her thing, film people dancing and make a muybridge wheel from the faces you see each time the pair rotate. & i wonder how it must feel preparing to make another film, knowing that zooming into any kind of territory in which people are bouncing off each other & relating & gently affecting one another would give her opportunity to do that again and again. you so inhabit the mood of a girl attending a party that has excited while on the horizon but which disappoints and leaves one directionless while attending. there is a scene of two girls being kind of loud on a bus, & you are even 'with' them then, understanding them, remembering. it unfolds so gracefully.

i probably would have got around to catching this sooner had someone told me how much of it was dancing. really a canonical teenage film, i think (would have to build up the rest of this canon, but: seventeen, paranoid park, ..?)

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2585/vlcsnap2011100500h00m06.png

honest weights, square dealings (schlump), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:46 (seven years ago) link

WM felt like a step backward: a re-examiniation of the Chocolat material without the precision.

Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 October 2011 23:53 (seven years ago) link

i really fucking hate old people for someone who almost is one

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 July 2018 16:35 (one year ago) link

She's not wrong.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 29 July 2018 16:36 (one year ago) link

you and the Upper West Side Golden Girls are united on this one

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 July 2018 16:49 (one year ago) link

Lol, I asked Claire Denis a question at one of those Q&As once, but that was when I was much further from approaching my dotage.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:02 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

that feeling when you learn A24 bought Claire Denis’ HIGH LIFE and is planning a big theatrical release. pic.twitter.com/VgMN9kb7uQ

— david ehrlich (@davidehrlich) September 12, 2018

:)

flappy bird, Thursday, 13 September 2018 17:22 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...
one month passes...

Blind spot for me so I started chronologically watching her filmography at the weekend.

Chocolat is stunning - a great companion piece to Wargnier's (lesser but still v good) Indochine which I watched the other week. I love the exploration of the post-colonial feeling of, I don't know the best word, "rootlessness" maybe? All this has reminded me to have a rewatch of Zama now it's out on DVD.

Nearly more impressed with the fact that no animals were hurt during S'en fout la mort than the actual film. Didn't quite expect the subtleness and I can tell I will be chewing on the ideas here for a while.

I like Poeltls (fionnland), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 21:19 (ten months ago) link

Beau Travail wonderfully beguiling

flappy bird, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:42 (ten months ago) link

J'ai pas sommeil rolled along very nicely but I was definitely enjoying the wandering direction and little glances of the whole thing more before the murder plot came to the fore.

U.S. Go Home was unexpectedly very fun but delicate where required - a few lovely sequences. The brother's spazz out dance sequence is superb, as is the Dad dancing at the lame party. Got a bit of an American Graffiti vibe. Unexpected Vincent Gallo!


you so inhabit the mood of a girl attending a party that has excited while on the horizon but which disappoints and leaves one directionless while attending. there is a scene of two girls being kind of loud on a bus, & you are even 'with' them then, understanding them, remembering. it unfolds so gracefully.

i probably would have got around to catching this sooner had someone told me how much of it was dancing. really a canonical teenage film, i think (would have to build up the rest of this canon, but: seventeen, paranoid park, ..?)

― honest weights, square dealings (schlump),

schlump nailed it. Highly recommend.

Clam up, seal dick (fionnland), Monday, 19 November 2018 23:34 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

just watched Friday Night........ well holy shit.

flappy bird, Friday, 11 January 2019 04:56 (eight months ago) link

One of my absolute faves by her. Hard to believe the same filmmaker made that silly, recent and overrated one with Binoche.

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:41 (eight months ago) link

I like both fine.

I remember her doing a Q&A at the NYFF for Friday Night, which is based on a novel by Emmanuèle Bernheim. Someone asked, "Why did these two people fall in love?"

CD replied, "Because the book said so."

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 January 2019 15:55 (eight months ago) link

xp Friday Night felt completely of a piece with Let the Sunshine In... certainly superior, in every way, a masterpiece, it's more surprising that the same filmmaker made White Material, Trouble Every Day, and 35 Rhums.

flappy bird, Friday, 11 January 2019 17:28 (eight months ago) link

why do you say that flappy (I haven't seen Vendredi Soir)

longish article and interview here:

http://cinema-scope.com/features/soft-and-hard-claire-denis-on-high-life/

I bailed on it once I realised it was v. spoilery.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Friday, 11 January 2019 18:34 (eight months ago) link

Xp Funny I really l see the similarities between Vendredi Soir, and 35 Rhums. Trouble Every Day is her massive outlier for me, both in style and quality, and it’s a fine movie.

Still need to see Bastards, Let the Sunshine In, and High Life.

Your dad's Carlos Boozer and you keep him alive (fionnland), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:11 (eight months ago) link

just that Friday Night is so impressionistic and painterly. the similarity to LTSI is just in the way she shoots naked bodies up close. there's more plot in LTSI, in Friday Night there's hardly any.

flappy bird, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:27 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, to me Friday Night and 35 Rhums exist almost as companion pieces to each other.

So, This Leaked (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 11 January 2019 19:28 (eight months ago) link

I saw it for the first time recently but I need to watch 35 Rhums again, I wasn't really in the best mood & was pretty distracted. Didn't realize it was an update of Late Spring until later but the similarities are obvious, especially that final shot (which is great).

flappy bird, Friday, 11 January 2019 19:32 (eight months ago) link

I never made the connection between 35 Rhums and Late Spring before

Dan S, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 00:43 (eight months ago) link

I need to watch it again too, I've only recently come to understand the pleasure of watching her films, when I first started they seemed so oblique and subtle it was hard for me to latch on to them.

Dan S, Wednesday, 23 January 2019 01:06 (eight months ago) link

she does the whole close body thing so well

Dan S, Saturday, 2 February 2019 04:03 (seven months ago) link

"usually we close late on Fridays; but with the strike..."

Dan S, Saturday, 2 February 2019 04:06 (seven months ago) link

I really don't understand what the deal was with the anchovy squiggling on the pizza in Friday Night. there were a bunch of other surreal moments in that film too

I love Claire Denis

Dan S, Saturday, 2 February 2019 04:22 (seven months ago) link

other surreal moments…the brief imagined scene of her with Vincent Lindon at her friend’s apartment with the crying baby, the elision of a scene showing an encounter with him on the stairs at the arcade with one of her brushing her hair in the restroom, so close up it’s hard to guess what’s happening, right at the moment she decides to take a chance

Dan S, Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:55 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

The Intruder is the first Denis film I’m not crazy about. It had striking moments visually, and the idea of the stalker was interesting, but between the dreams, portrayal of past events, and the current day narrative it was frustrating to try to make sense of it

Maybe a couple more viewings and I will appreciate it

Dan S, Wednesday, 6 March 2019 02:10 (six months ago) link

i hope you will. it's one of her best.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 6 March 2019 03:53 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

That is a film I fell in love with instantly. I have yet to see all other Denis movies apart from the latest with Juliette Binoche, but the memory of The Intruder still lingers on, years after the viewing.
The confusionary state(s) it put across was the thing I most loved about it.

Max Florian, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 10:50 (six months ago) link

she'll be here too

metrograph.com/series/series/213/an-evening-with-claire-denis

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:07 (six months ago) link

Coming up to the city for the last day of High Life and missing the Kaurismäki Metrograph retro by one day 😔

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 March 2019 00:29 (five months ago) link

saw Bastards. I like that Claire Denis uses The Tindersticks in the soundtracks of two of her films

Dan S, Thursday, 4 April 2019 01:47 (five months ago) link

She's used the Tindersticks or Stuart Staples in every film she's made since Nenette et Boni in 1996!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 4 April 2019 01:57 (five months ago) link

never saw Nenette et Boni, only started noticing it with the title song to Trouble Every Day. didn't realize that they did the scores for 35 Rhums and White Material

Dan S, Thursday, 4 April 2019 02:21 (five months ago) link

I like that! US Go Home is another one of her films I still have to watch

glad to see Gregoire Colin show up in so many of her films

Dan S, Sunday, 7 April 2019 23:53 (five months ago) link

she loves amateur dance scenes so much. i do too!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 7 April 2019 23:56 (five months ago) link

They always express character.

Alex Descas is amazing in No Fear No Die… viscerally painful. And 180 degrees from his character 18 years later in 35 Rhums.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 April 2019 03:42 (five months ago) link

I really liked ‘35 Rhums’ but don’t think I’ve seen any of Denis’ other films.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 9 April 2019 08:29 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Do you have gluten-free olives?

flappy bird, Monday, 3 June 2019 18:16 (three months ago) link

That actor is Xavier Beauvois, the director of Of Gods and Men and Les Guardiennes. He's very good in that scene!

Shite New Answers (jed_), Monday, 3 June 2019 18:43 (three months ago) link

yep

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 June 2019 18:56 (three months ago) link

Bfi putting on a season of her films this month

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 June 2019 21:59 (three months ago) link

I just got back from Brazil and felt like banging you!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 00:49 (three months ago) link

keep it to yourself streaming here http://www.lecinemaclub.com/

devvvine, Friday, 14 June 2019 21:25 (three months ago) link

for yourself*

devvvine, Friday, 14 June 2019 21:26 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

thinking back on it, "high life" plays better in my head as one big joke about being way too high all the time

cheese canopy (map), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 19:55 (three weeks ago) link

or onanistic

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 August 2019 20:32 (three weeks ago) link

High Life is a really great title

Dan S, Thursday, 29 August 2019 02:41 (three weeks ago) link


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