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I not going to say it was "just updated" because i got in trouble for saying that last time, but there are new "coming soons" on the Criterion web page...

...including Godard's "A Woman is a Woman"!!!!!

now if only they'll do "Weekend"....

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I have been wishing for a Chris Marker set myself (i've seen very little of his stuff)

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum/

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

http://pub125.ezboard.com/bcriterioncollectionforum

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

its reached easier at http://www.criterionforum.org fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from
www.pimpadelicwonderland.com

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Slacker!

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link

they really aren't, look at anything they put out before 1960

flappy bird, Saturday, 22 August 2020 03:57 (two months ago) link

Really depends on whether you're talking about their very recent output or the collection as a whole, imo, but there's way more bu auteurs than non-auteurs either way. Pre-1960 gets you films by Renoir, Kurosawa, Fellini, Lang, Ophuls, Leo McCarey, Nicholas Ray, Charles Vidor, Ozu, Rossellini...

More recently they've started to dig into Japanese franchises that aren't auteur-driven, as forks has pointed out, and that's spreading to other stuff like the Bruce Lee box.

They've also only semi-recently gotten the opportunity to do way more classic Hollywood than they used to, and that's brought out a lot of non-auteur stuff, too - tho frankly at this rate there's very few classic Hollywood directors that aren't considered auteurs.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 22 August 2020 11:25 (two months ago) link

all that, but if that still doesn't convince you, it would take going through the full list and presenting stats on director-driven vs non-director driven and it's not that important to me.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 22 August 2020 15:19 (two months ago) link

My copy of Taste of Cherry arrived today

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Monday, 24 August 2020 17:06 (two months ago) link

I watched it the other week, the restoration is just incredible

it's one of my favorite movies but I have to say that womp-womp-womp sad jazz at the end reallllllllllllllllly fuckin kills the mood

flappy bird, Monday, 24 August 2020 19:10 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

December: Crash (Cronenberg's), Amores Perros, Symbiopsychotaxiplasm, Mouchette. 3 out of 4 I'm interested in (sorry, Iñárritu)!

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:06 (one month ago) link

I really liked Amores Perros at the time, but that formula really got overdone in the 2000s (Babel didn't help!) so it might not hold up as well in 2020.

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:11 (one month ago) link

Sweet. I wish there was more stuff on the Symbiopsychotaxiplasm disc, the DVD they have out is fine

flappy bird, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:13 (one month ago) link

As with all of the DVD-only titles I want, I've been on the fence about buying it for a little while but kinda honestly didn't expect to see a blu-ray release. Their upgrade priorities are a mystery (to me, at least).

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:41 (one month ago) link

Man, Crash has been in the pipeline since the mid-aughts.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:16 (one month ago) link

It's weird, Arrow already do a Region 2 Crash 2 Blu with different extras:

https://arrowfilms.com/product-detail/crash-limited-edition-blu-ray/FCD2073

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 21:35 (one month ago) link

I saw that elsewhere, along with a third Canadian (?) release.

Criterion was all but confirmed to have it as part of their Fine Line deal in the mid-'00s, which brought Short Cuts, My Own Private Idaho, and Naked into the collection (plus Simple Men & Spanking The Monkey over at Home Vision), but it gradually fell off the radar.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 22:44 (one month ago) link

Normally it's the commentary track that decides which disc version I buy, but in this case I'm torn as both Cronenberg and Adrian Martin give good chat and would perfectly compliment each other. Funnily enough one of the few movies I've double dipped on is Videodrome - Criterion DVD for the Cronenberg commentary, Arrow Blu Ray for the Tim Lucas commentary - again, they compliment one another.

In the UK you can also get Stalker and Solaris from both Criterion and Artifical Eye, but in this case the Criterion releases are superior in every way.

Movie rights are the zone of confusion.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 22:56 (one month ago) link

Amores Perros can't have aged well.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 23:27 (one month ago) link

As with all of the DVD-only titles I want, I've been on the fence about buying it for a little while but kinda honestly didn't expect to see a blu-ray release. Their upgrade priorities are a mystery (to me, at least).

― Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, September 15, 2020 2:41 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah only thing I can think of is the movie and Greaves are mentioned frequently in Charlie Kaufman's new novel Antkind, oh and Greaves is only 1 of.....4? Black American filmmakers in the CC?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 05:02 (one month ago) link

But the DVD is fine and this has nothing new

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 05:03 (one month ago) link

xp: The best predictor of whether a title will get a Criterion blu-ray release is if one of the UK arthouse distributors (Arrow, Artificial Eye, BFI, Eureka...) has already released a transfer. In some cases Criterion tweaks color balance, but in many its identical, just with a different set of licenced extras.

Disgraced, committing sudoku (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:52 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I figured someone was going to issue Crash in the US after Arrow announced their UK-only release. I'm thinking more of the older Criterion DVD releases that they presumably still have the rights to. There's a slew of those (Trouble in Paradise, Jigoku, a couple Cocteaus, etc.) that I'd like to get but keep kicking down the road in hopes of a blu-ray release...sometime?

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:02 (one month ago) link

There is quite a lot of stuff on Criterion that has never been issued in the UK - Symbiopsychotaxiplasm, for example.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:16 (one month ago) link

Yeah, I've been waiting on a blu-ray reissue of Written on the Wind for over a decade now, but the DVD version from 2001 remains stubbornly in-print. I thought this had to be the oldest one they hadn't upgraded yet but the one they did in 1998 for David Lean's Summertime (spine #22) is still in print, which means it's been available in four different decades at this point.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 17:24 (one month ago) link

haha I had no idea Summertime was still in print, I thought I scored big when I found a copy at my parents' house early in quarantine.

Still haven't watched it, any thoughts?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:26 (one month ago) link

I love it to pieces, and was thinking of showing it to our film club before pandemic and ill health busted that up. It's a great example of different acting styles conveying different meanings and emotional tones; Hepburn starts out all cornfed, corny and gosh-wow, but as the film goes on she and her character settle into a deeper, more naturalistic, more emotional groove. Weirdly, I think it would be a good double feature with Mulholland Dr.

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:39 (one month ago) link

Summertime might be my favourite Lean.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:42 (one month ago) link

Hmm

WRITTEN ON THE WIND (1956) 🌹 pic.twitter.com/2vDaxtXfyf

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) September 26, 2020

flappy bird, Saturday, 26 September 2020 15:32 (four weeks ago) link

wow, great capture

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 26 September 2020 19:33 (four weeks ago) link

FINALLY

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 27 September 2020 02:07 (three weeks ago) link

A ton of Joan Crawford available on Criterion.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:57 (three weeks ago) link

Also Marlon Riggs and Jenni Olson!

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:59 (three weeks ago) link

Even without all the '70s horror, maybe their gayest month ever.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:59 (three weeks ago) link

I wonder if the flash sale is going to happen this fall

flappy bird, Monday, 12 October 2020 18:48 (one week ago) link

Usually happens this week

flappy bird, Monday, 12 October 2020 18:48 (one week ago) link

I have been wondering too. Doesn't it often correspond with the timing of a big release? If so, maybe October 27th (Parasite).

daily growing, Monday, 12 October 2020 19:32 (one week ago) link

I wish Criterion would accept Paypal. I have a balance there I keep forgetting about, the very definition of fun money to buy blu-rays with.

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Monday, 12 October 2020 19:49 (one week ago) link

January: Minding the Gap, The Ascent, Rolling Thunder Revue, Three Films by Buñuel set (Discreet Charm, Phantom of Liberty, That Obscure Object)

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:23 (one week ago) link

So very happy to see the Shepitko.

Please don't mention The Event (Sanpaku), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:27 (one week ago) link

Is this the first time an Eclipse title got promoted to the main collection?

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:31 (one week ago) link

Minding the Gap destroyed me.

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:40 (one week ago) link

the skater doc? saw that the year it came out, really strong

k3vin k., Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:41 (one week ago) link

sps:

Most of Eclipse Series 1: Early Bergman found its way into the Ingmar Bergman’s Cinema box set. Scanning the Eclipse titles, I'm not seeing others.

Please don't mention The Event (Sanpaku), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:43 (one week ago) link

I can totally see most of the Aki Kaurismäki (Eclipse Series 12 and 29) getting promoted (at least as a box set), as UK Artificial Eye already has this out.

Please don't mention The Event (Sanpaku), Thursday, 15 October 2020 17:46 (one week ago) link

the Varda eclipse set

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:03 (one week ago) link

There's probably more of those upgrades coming down the pike, like Daisies and some of the other Czech films.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:19 (one week ago) link

minding the gap deserves it. can't wait to see what liu does next.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:25 (one week ago) link

That huge Criterion Varda box strikes me as one of the least commercial releases they've ever done. Hope they're selling enough Godzilla and Wes Anderson titles to keep doing this sort of thing.

Please don't mention The Event (Sanpaku), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:29 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I'm going to buy a copy in the next half-price sale even though all its content is available on the Channel.

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Thursday, 15 October 2020 18:42 (one week ago) link

the Varda box is 50 bucks cheaper than the Bergman box, I realize he's been canonized for over half a century but the Varda box doesn't strike me as much different. Then again, she's enjoying a resurgence in popularity among younger people who probably can't afford to buy the box, unlike Bergman+Fellini sets. IDK

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 October 2020 19:27 (one week ago) link

24 hour flash sale has started.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 16:13 (four days ago) link

and the site is down

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 16:17 (four days ago) link

i usually have a hard time justifying buying from the flash sale bc used dvd copies on ebay and amazon usually still end up being cheaper than 50% off, but I may pull the trigger on the Dietrich & von Sternberg set this time

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 16:50 (four days ago) link

Frustrated because Elephant Man and Beau Travail were already out of stock, but picked up the Varda box and Portrait of a Lady on Fire.

(show hidden tics) (WmC), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 15:36 (three days ago) link


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