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I not going to say it was "just updated" because i got in trouble for saying that last time, but there are new "coming soons" on the Criterion web page...

...including Godard's "A Woman is a Woman"!!!!!

now if only they'll do "Weekend"....

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I have been wishing for a Chris Marker set myself (i've seen very little of his stuff)

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

its reached easier at fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (sixteen years ago) link

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (sixteen years ago) link

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (sixteen years ago) link

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (sixteen years ago) link

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (sixteen years ago) link

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link


Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 17:22 (three months ago) link

The end-June B&N sale (and Come and See, Portrait of a Lady on Fire, Roma, Cold War and Taste of Cherry) can't come soon enough for me.

speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Saturday, 18 April 2020 22:55 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

This August, we're celebrating the boundless creative vision of Agnès Varda with a comprehensive collection of her genre-blurring, culture-shaping films, bringing together all thirty-nine of her features, shorts, and documentaries for the first time! 🧡💜💗

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) May 11, 2020

flappy bird, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:09 (two months ago) link

Awesome news! (Cinévardaphoto appears to be missing tho?)

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Monday, 11 May 2020 19:38 (two months ago) link

MORE AUGUST: Toni; The Comfort of Strangers; Town Bloody Hall; and a Blu upgrade of The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 15 May 2020 17:12 (two months ago) link

If The Comfort of Strangers is the early 90s Canadian film, I've been wanting to see that one for a while.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 15 May 2020 17:27 (two months ago) link

...except that film is The Company of Strangers. This is the Paul Schrader movie (oddly enough, both are from 1990).

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 15 May 2020 17:30 (two months ago) link

Vegemite Is My Grrl wrote: Cinévardaphoto appears to be missing tho?

It's there, just listed as the three individual films that comprise it.

ernestp, Saturday, 16 May 2020 14:01 (two months ago) link

like the Bergman set, it's "programmed" out of chronological order which is sort of annoying

flappy bird, Saturday, 16 May 2020 22:17 (two months ago) link

I think it's neat tbh

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 01:15 (two months ago) link

tbf I haven't tried watching any of the films "as programmed" in the Bergman set, it's just a pain to find a certain movie in the thing all out of order, but I should try it, I haven't dug back into it for a few months. a theater here was supposed to show A Lesson in Love sometime in April, I'll watch whatever batch that's in soon.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 03:08 (two months ago) link

30% off until May 31 on discs from the CC store

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 03:09 (two months ago) link

I only saw Schrader's The Comfort of Strangers once, probably around the the time it came out, I mostly remember being really impressed by the visuals of the lantern-lit scenes

Dan S, Thursday, 28 May 2020 00:53 (two months ago) link

I could be completely misremembering it, would like to see it again

Dan S, Thursday, 28 May 2020 00:54 (two months ago) link

30% off until May 31 on discs from the CC store

― flappy bird, Tuesday, May 26, 2020 10:09 PM

Extended to June 15th

Irritable Baal (WmC), Sunday, 31 May 2020 18:34 (two months ago) link

Are they going under?

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 May 2020 18:40 (two months ago) link

I haven't heard anything of the sort! Have you heard something we haven't?

Irritable Baal (WmC), Sunday, 31 May 2020 19:44 (two months ago) link

Probably just residual speculation after Twilight Time folded. But they've never had such a prolonged sale as this that I can remember.

Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 May 2020 19:51 (two months ago) link

prob just taking advantage of people being stuck at home/stimulus money/the ongoing deterioration of worth assigned to physical media

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 31 May 2020 21:24 (two months ago) link

Everybody who has anything to sell is desperate to move their product right now.

dan selzer, Sunday, 31 May 2020 23:51 (two months ago) link

Twilight Time has surprisingly been the only boutique company to shut down (and they just got picked up for distribution by another company). Seems like a lot of them are doing gangbusters business just now (perhaps thanks to a multitude of quarantine sales sales).

Fun-Loving and Furry-Curious! (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 May 2020 23:57 (two months ago) link

I do want the Husbands disc. got any Oshima recs?

flappy bird, Monday, 1 June 2020 00:37 (two months ago) link

Twilight Time had already been winding down for awhile. Their last new product announcement was last summer (and even then that was stuff which had been delayed). Co-Owner Nick Redman died in early '19 as well. Not to mention that their stubbornly clung-to business model was outmoded and had been improved on by Arrow/Indicator/Kino Lorber etc.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 June 2020 13:38 (two months ago) link

Re: Twilight Time: limiting runs to 3000 ea of some 220 titles may have improved sales to speculative collectors, but it's a model which drove me to get imported UK blus of 1984, Sexy Beast, Richard III, and Wild at Heart. I've watched Titus ascend in price beyond my prudence, and it just made me view Twilight Time with some scorn.

mafia sleepover (Sanpaku), Monday, 8 June 2020 07:50 (two months ago) link

Given that CC recently tweeted a still from In a Year with 13 Moons, and that 2020 happens to be a moon year with 13 new moons where inescapable personal (and global?) personal tragedies may, and already have, occurred—I predict they will announce its release on Monday. Or the next 15th. But it's coming out this year.

flappy bird, Saturday, 13 June 2020 00:04 (one month ago) link

SEPTEMBER: The Elephant Man; Christ Stopped At Eboli; Beau Travail; Scorsese's World Cinema Project Box #3, featuring: Lucia, After The Curfew; Pixote; Dos Monjes; Soleil O; and Downpour; and upgrades of The Naked City & Brute Force.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:12 (one month ago) link


k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:18 (one month ago) link

Surprised the Denis wasn't in there already

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:19 (one month ago) link

full-length Eboli had a very limited rep release last year; someone alert JCLC

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 June 2020 21:43 (one month ago) link

It played here in early February, I skipped it--I like his film Three Brothers but it wasn't enough to get me out to see a 4 hour epic.

Glad Beau Travail is finally going to be available again. The Elephant Man too, that one hasn't been in print in America for a while.

Predicting 13 Moons for October

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 01:34 (one month ago) link

Vivid memories of seeing Elephant Man for the first time, on 35, in one of my film classes, and pretty much the whole room just fucking bawling by the end.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:26 (one month ago) link

Just felt like reminding people that But I'm a Cheerleader is streaming until the end of July. Still love that movie! Here's an interview with the stars.

Nhex, Thursday, 18 June 2020 23:53 (one month ago) link

Haha whoa that's awesome, great movie, I have the DVD and had no idea it was on the CC.

flappy bird, Thursday, 18 June 2020 23:54 (one month ago) link

such a great movie. i wrote about it a few years ago and essentially came out as nonbinary (without actually coming out) in the middle of the piece ;_;

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 19 June 2020 00:02 (one month ago) link

this is it btw:

normally i hate sharing or even thinking about old work and on top of that i also hate displaying the self-consciousness i have over not wanting to share my work etc. etc. but i like this one. i think i've changed a lot since i wrote it but i also like revisiting the version of me that was getting very close to the truth about themselves even though they didn't know exactly what they were saying at the time

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 19 June 2020 00:08 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Heads up for the B&N 50% off sale, through 2 Aug.

Sanpaku, Tuesday, 14 July 2020 23:45 (three weeks ago) link

everything I want is out of stock

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:22 (three weeks ago) link

Check often, I guess. The Bruce Lee box was out of stock Sunday but it's available today. I picked up a few things in the Tupelo store Sunday and have Matewan on the way.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:27 (three weeks ago) link

I just want in the realm of the senses, and I thought taste of cherry had already come out

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:34 (three weeks ago) link

In the Realm of the Senses is showing as in stock to me, and Taste of Cherry comes out a week from today, still during the sale.

Irritable Baal (WmC), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:43 (three weeks ago) link

Lol after I read your post I went and checked, ordered, thank you!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:44 (three weeks ago) link

I wound up making an eensy and mostly random but nonetheless dece order (Husbands, Face in the Crowd, Ace jn the Hole) cobbled together from what little was in stock online. Hopefully the next sale on the Criterion site will actually have some shit available to buy.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:55 (three weeks ago) link

like the Varda box...

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 00:56 (three weeks ago) link

Kinda want to get the postwar Kurosawa Eclipse set but...there's gotta be an enormous Bergman-esque Kurosawa box just around the corner, surely?

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:04 (three weeks ago) link

Like this one?

Probably not reissuing that any time soon...

Evan, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 02:36 (three weeks ago) link

I went back to check on stuff that was listed as out of stock online and most of 'em got "restocked"

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 03:36 (three weeks ago) link

that kurosawa box is still missing a few things - Ran, Silent Duel, Dersu Ursula (spelling!), Rhapsody in August, Dreams...

(looks like criterion in the us has slightly more rights to things than bfi does in the uk (The Idiot, for instance), but still not everything)

koogs, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 09:39 (three weeks ago) link

October: Parasite, Claudine, The Gunfighter, Pierrot le Fou, The Hit

I had just been looking for Claudine recently! Lovely news.

Well, that's a fine howdy adieu! (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:45 (three weeks ago) link

That Pierrot le Fou cover is beautiful

flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:51 (three weeks ago) link

Shoulda sold my old CC Pierrot when I had a chance.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 July 2020 17:05 (three weeks ago) link

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