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I not going to say it was "just updated" because i got in trouble for saying that last time, but there are new "coming soons" on the Criterion web page...

...including Godard's "A Woman is a Woman"!!!!!

now if only they'll do "Weekend"....

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I have been wishing for a Chris Marker set myself (i've seen very little of his stuff)

ryan (ryan), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i'm waiting patiently for the eisenstein silents set and a dvd of 'au hasard balthazar'

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 4 April 2004 15:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

A Marker set would be incredible & would be a nice continuation of Criterion's embrace of experimental shorts, started with the "By Brakhage" collection.

I would love to see a collection of Jem Cohen's films released by Criterion, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 00:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless.

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 02:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I can't wait for the Battle of Algiers release that should be soon enough.

Once again, I refer you all to the wonderfully great Criterion messageboard of

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Try that...

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 02:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

its reached easier at fyi

todd swiss (eliti), Monday, 5 April 2004 04:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the tip...that makes things so much eaiser.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 5 April 2004 14:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the problem with criterion is that i am always tempted to buy them even if i dont like or havent seen the movie because the packaging is so nice.

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 17:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, but you really can't go wrong--nearly everything they release is golden.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Monday, 5 April 2004 21:13 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

that reminds me, is The Leopard any good? because i have pre-ordered it already!

ryan (ryan), Monday, 5 April 2004 22:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

<em>au hasard was playing at the music box last week, i was speechless. </em>

I just ordered my copy - $18. on DVD-R. Natch. - along with a copy of <em> F is for Fake </em> from

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Bad, bad HTML skills.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 02:49 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Leopard is amazing! Burt Lancaster's is one of the classic performance.s It is, however, very long and even more difficult to follow than The Big Sleep.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Tuesday, 6 April 2004 18:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

watch "last year at marienbad" and nothing will be hard to follow afterwards... except for subsequent viewings of "last year at marienbad"

todd swiss (eliti), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 05:24 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

your em tags are just fine and would have worked up until a month or so ago when in the face of html abuse they also disabled any number of legitimate standards-compliant tags too.

andrew s (andrew s), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Au Hasard Balthazar will be out in Criterion before the year is out.

Weekend is owned by New Yorker films but no plans for a DVD have been made. It may come on Region 2 at some point.

Rashomon, Friday, 16 April 2004 23:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I got the Floating Weeds DVDs today, yay.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 16 April 2004 23:34 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, I bought that as well -- also grabbed 3 Women -- I can't wait to watch it!

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Saturday, 17 April 2004 05:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

could someone explain to me why criterion collection dvds cost so much?! even the single discs can be 40 bucks. im missing something, i know it.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Saturday, 17 April 2004 20:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Not many sold per title, lots of extras, costs of transfer and cleaning.

And because they can - they've got the name and the identity to hook in film geeks, where else are you going to turn, New Yorker?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

They're really not $40, that's just the MSRP. Most of them go for just a bit more than you'd probably want to pay for an average, if you know where to look. I highly recommend DVD Price Search - but if you want to take the short route, usually Deep Discount DVD tends to the have the best prices on Criterions (and free shipping to boot!).

Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Rumor at those Criterion forums, though, seems to indicate Criterion is gently phasing out their $29/$39 pricing patterns and easing into an appalling $39/$49 structure (which explains their rather excessive double-disc sets lately). If this turns out to be true, I'm afraid I'll have to put my foot down and refuse to buy more than one a month from these people.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 06:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

alright alright. this ones a little harder:
why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

why does Armageddon have its own criterion version?

I haven't seen it, but supposedly it was aimed at the special effects mavens out there. Also I recall reading an interview with one of the Criterion folks who said that the revenues from the Armageddon allowed them to fund a lot of other less-popular titles.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:51 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

balthazar getty needs some $$$$$$$ give it to him now luv me.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

There's a salon interview with Criterion's Peter Becker that directly addresses the Armageddon question. (Which 2 dvd set, by the way, I have and it's great. I love the movie though.)

Here's just the start of the relevant section:

Specifically, with "Armageddon": You'd be silly to overlook blockbusters as a genre and leave them out of a film library. They drive so much. They drive tastes and shooting styles and visual references that appear all over the world in commercials and on TV as well as on movie screens. They're part of a huge cultural cross-pollination. And special effects are one of the most important aspects of a certain kind of contemporary filmmaking.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

How true is that today? I can't think of the last Armageddon-esque blockbuster that visually influential on film/tv/commercials (incl. Armageddon).

Is The Rock Criterion still in print? I'd much rather have that than Armageddon.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Rock criterion is still available. When I think of visually influential blockbusters (for good or ill), I have trouble getting past The Matrix. The interview is like 4 years old now, but he has more to say following that though. Part of me wishes the answer had simply been "just to piss you off" though.

Those were the days when you actually got your $140 million dollars worth out of your production budget.

andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I forgot about the Matrix (and don't think of it as a blockbuster in the Independence Day mold, didn't it kind of come out of nowhere?), that would be one.

I miss the days when a budget topping $80mln was big news and a reason to go see the film. Now that barely buys you a romantic comedy.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:18 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

thats because the romantic sunsent that juxtaposes meg ryan's silhouette at the end has to be done in CGI by ILM.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

In regards to blockbuster films influencing TV commercial/music video styles (re: "Armaggedon"), I think in the majority of instances that it's the other way around. Michel Gondry and Chris Cunningham being a good example, and Mark Romanek's early NIN videos were a huge influence on David Fincher when he made "Seven". In my experience, true innovation usually comes from the avant-garde/indie/short format arenas, simply because it's easier to take risks on a short or cheap project than a studio produced narrative feature.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor).

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Thursday, 22 April 2004 02:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

personally i prefer dvds with a good transfer of the film and few if any bonus, presuming that this way they would be priced a bit lower. but criterion has a big network of fans who like exactly what they do, and purchase accordingly. there are a number of criterion titles i'd like to buy if i had the money, and should i ever have the money i will buy them. but for now i'll stick to the more inexpensive titles. sometimes the bfi in the uk or studiocanal in france will release the same titles for a cheaper sticker price, with fewer extras.

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:06 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't think I've watched the extras on 95% of the DVDs I own. A funny commentary here and there, but that's about it.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

absolutely. the idea of extras is a lot more interesting than actually sitting through a thousand production photos. commentaries and perhaps documentaries are about the extent of my interest.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:01 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"but does that innovation ever really catch on to be something bigger? it doesnt quite seem possible these days (in any sort of creative endeavor). "

it depends on how you look at it. it my mind, there's no need for it to necessarily become somethi@5{te the suggestion that short films/music videos/avant-garde & experimental work are just a "warm-up" for a feature length narrative. it's kind of absurd to but a limitation of film that it has to be 90-180 minutes long with actors, dialogue & a plot. at least 50% of my favorite cinematic works don't fit into the categorization, and whenever i hear about people complaining about a lack of innovation in film, it's usually because all they watch are feature length narratives.

but as for the idea of the innovation in these works not "catching on" in the mainstream, you simply have to look around you to see their influence: magazines, billboards, popular films and music, even architecture. it's everywhere, and most of the good, innovative feature filmmakers will be the first to admit that they've been influenced by someone like michel gondry, spike jonze, jem cohen, etc.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:09 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Battle of Algiers confirmed on the main page. Yay!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

And holy shit, three discs?!?!?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

haha, was just going to make a post about that on a separate thread but whatev.

two words: HOLY SHIT.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 23 April 2004 20:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Like I said... I'd expect these three-disc sets to become something of a norm. This is the third in the space of a half year, whereas the first roughly five years of Criterion DVDs brought only one (Brazil).

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 23 April 2004 23:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

ryan (ryan), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 04:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

and Videdrome! It's good to see that Criterion has been adding more focus on contemporary works lately.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 10:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
can i just say that The Leopard is fucking awesome. thanks.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 6 August 2004 19:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

newest ones include "eyes without a face"!

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

(i'm happy to see more $29.95s in this latest batch, because they've been getting too rich for my blood. i'll definitely pick up "eyes" for that price, however, and probably "tanner '88".)

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Friday, 6 August 2004 21:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Is I, Vitelloni worth buying sight unseen? (For someone who luvs neo-realism and Dazed & Confused)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 7 August 2004 14:27 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
short cuts two-disc set (with reprint of the carver book!) and the fanny and alexander two- AND five-disc sets coming out in november (like with scenes from a marriage, the television and theatrical versions are both getting a release).

so rejoice, damn you.

joseph (joseph), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
burden of dreams, hoop dreams, the phantom of liberty set to come out in may.

joseph (joseph), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 06:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ok I'm insane and bought the Dekalog so I could get a gift certificate. got the Dušan Makavejev and Agnès Varda Eclipse boxes.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 04:17 (three months ago) Permalink

B&N 50% off sale starts on November 2nd and lasts until December 3rd... will be able to get the Bergman box for ~$135 with B&N membership (or the phone number of anyone who has a membership).

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 29 October 2018 01:51 (two months ago) Permalink

fuck I forgot the B&N sale applied to preorders, already got the Bergman box for $195

flappy bird, Monday, 29 October 2018 04:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Let The Sunshine In confirmed in latest newsletter.

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:49 (two months ago) Permalink


flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:51 (two months ago) Permalink

got the Dietrich/von Sternberg set, and plan to watch one a day for the next week, yahoo

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:45 (two months ago) Permalink

I was at a Barnes and Noble yesterday, and an old British man asked me "how do I know which ones are sale?"

He seemed quite delighted when I told him all of them and then picked out A Matter of Life and Death.

tokyo rosemary, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:16 (two months ago) Permalink


I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:25 (two months ago) Permalink

I would just buy on the website and have them deliver, but the site isn't applying the additional membership discount that knocks an extra couple bucks off. So off to the store with me to grab Sisters.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:26 (two months ago) Permalink



Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Limited myself to just the Sisters re-up and then, thanks to KJB's haul post, An Actor's Revenge.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 18:24 (two months ago) Permalink

And am only additionally getting Crucified Lovers and Magnificent Ambersons for the remainder of the sale, once they're released.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 18:25 (two months ago) Permalink

An Actor's Revenge is the only one I haven't seen and I just requested a Netflix copy.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 November 2018 18:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Got mine in the mail today:

One Eyed Jacks
World on a Wire
A Hollis Frampton Odyssey

flappy bird, Saturday, 10 November 2018 20:51 (two months ago) Permalink

I have a list of upgrades that I keep putting off:

3 Women
Yi Yi
Late Spring
F for Fake
Jeanne Dielman
Au hasard Balthazar

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 November 2018 21:46 (two months ago) Permalink

This as good a thread as any to say that I started the <i>Marseille Trilogy</i> the other day and don't watch any of the extras until you've seen all three movies unless you're fine with MAJOR spoilers.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:12 (two months ago) Permalink

Watched IN A LONELY PLACE for the millionth time, then was scandalized by the featurette about Gloria Grahame

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:23 (two months ago) Permalink

FEBRUARY: To Sleep With Anger; Death In Venice; La verite; Shame (Bergman); and Berlin Alexanderplatz on Blu.

The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Berlin Alexanderplatz on Blu


I picked the right week to start reading the book

flappy bird, Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:03 (two months ago) Permalink

Good god, that's not meant to sit on a shelf but a table.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 20:56 (two months ago) Permalink

Please tell me the actual name of the set is Bergman: Aww Yeah.

'Rock Me (I'm a Dais)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:04 (two months ago) Permalink

Freakin' With the Ing-Man

I signed up for B&N's rewards card so it came out to $135, which, hell yeah.

I hear you've been having trouble with pigs and ponies. (WmC), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 21:09 (two months ago) Permalink

got mine today too!

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:05 (two months ago) Permalink

Which reminds me that I just watched this because clemenza recommended it:

Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 11:30 (two months ago) Permalink

My Bergman box should get here next week (shortly after my Shout Factory Herzog box)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 11:41 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

MARCH: Japon; I Wanna Hold Your Hand; Wanda; Detour; The Kid Brother; and a reissue of The Magic Flute.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 December 2018 21:51 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Koker trilogy!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

also read a guess that the sled isn't Citizen Kane but Spike Lee's Bamboozled (!!!)

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Klute, Swingtime, An Angel at My Table

Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Astaire/Rogers Swing Time?

nickn, Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I believe it is Swing Time. Criterion--unlike rights holder Warner Bros.--ain't afraid of no scuffy floors in HD!

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 1 January 2019 22:40 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Europa Europa?

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 00:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Wildest guess seems to be The Heiress for the S balloon, though great if true.

love craptually (Eric H.), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 14:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

nice piece by the illustrator of the Notorious upgrade:

flappy bird, Monday, 7 January 2019 21:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

F. Part 2. The table with the game =

i hope it's Snakes on a Plane

adam the (abanana), Friday, 11 January 2019 11:14 (one week ago) Permalink

An art gallery is selling a lot of Criterions on ebay, for those interested. It's located near me but I never remembered to go and check it out in person.

nickn, Friday, 11 January 2019 22:52 (one week ago) Permalink

APRIL: Police Story & Police Story II; My Brilliant Career; A Face In The Crowd; Diamonds of The Night; and Blu upgrades of Stranger Than Paradise & Night On Earth.

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 January 2019 22:49 (one week ago) Permalink

how does Night on Earth stand against Stranger Than Paradise? I just watched the former over the weekend, was OK - hate Benigni with a passion, though. I liked the Winona/Gena and the Helsinki section a lot more than the others. I know STP isn't episodic and it's supposed to be great - missed a 35mm screening last year - should I hold off on renting the DVD from the video store?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:38 (six days ago) Permalink

STP kinda is episodic! (vs the anthology format of Night On Earth or Mystery Train). It totally shows it’s bonafides as a low-budget 1980s film: long takes on spare b&w stock, manneredness standing in for any stronger directorial drive (yet). imo in 2019 it’s probably v slow & boring at home, funny with an audience.

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:51 (six days ago) Permalink

ooh ok gotcha, I got anthology & episodic mixed up. didn't know STP was either, assumed it was like Down by Law for some reason. slow is fine at home. I'll hold off, you watch enough DVDs and Blu-Rays at home and the difference can be pretty severe. I appreciate how much Jarmusch supported and advocated for Aki Kaurismäki early on - it was so great to see Matti Pellonpää and three of AK's other regulars in the last section of NOE.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:55 (six days ago) Permalink

It’s been years, but STP is a league above NoE in my opinion, JJ when he was hungry and at a creative peak, as opposed to the latter, which just tries to get by on star power. It may have worked better as a short than a feature? Anyway rent it

calstars, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:56 (six days ago) Permalink


Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 05:20 (six days ago) Permalink

Also glad to see A Face In The Crowd will retain the making of from the DVD, which gave us this...

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 05:39 (six days ago) Permalink

Had forgotten about this...

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:57 (six days ago) Permalink

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