Best Websites for Purchasing Hard-To-Find Films

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and, of course,

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 26 February 2004 04:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink has a very nice selection of hard to find films -- everything is on DVD-R, which is nice.

For Japanese stuff, is a great site and service, and it is all in English.

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Thursday, 26 February 2004 15:53 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Anthony (Anthony F), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm assuming that you guys have purchased from each of these sites that you recommend?

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"I'm assuming that you guys have purchased from each of these sites that you recommend?"

i have at all the ones i named except subterranean cinema, which i just found the other day. i'm assuming it's just a small-time bootlegging outfit, but the guy has some really hard to find stuff.

be sure that if you order something from sites like or to let them know your purchasing it for personal use only. whereas a rental for a public screening may cost $100 or more, a VHS for personal use (to keep, not a rental) may be only $20-30. I know most of vdb's jem cohen collection is available for sale at $30 each.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 26 February 2004 17:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

For the record, I've bought from 5MO without problems.

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

On subterranean, where is the feature to purchase things? I can only find the listings for screenings.

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

dean, i've come across 5MO a couple of times during websearches and have been kind of skeptical. how have the quality of the films you've ordered been? no compatibility issues at all? what titles have you ordered?

as far as i can tell with subterranean, the website acts as a catalog, and you have to contact the guy who runs it via e-mail to order stuff. i'm tempted to get the kenneth anger stuff, but i'm waiting on to release their collection--although every time i try to contact them for a release data, my e-mail is returned back.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

oh, and because i know there are a lot of "wisconsin death trip" fans out there, just wanted to post a reminder that amazon is releasing it for sale tomorrow.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The quality of 5MO films really varies, but I can say one thing, don't necessarily trust their own assessment of quality.

I recently saw Serie Noire which is impossible to find in this country, but the quality looked like a 12th generation VHS.

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Thursday, 26 February 2004 18:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

From 5MO I received God's Angry Man and The Humiliated. GAM was an "A" according to them and TH a "B".

I'd say that if you think of these ratings in the context of bootlegs (which these dvds are, obv.) then they are correct. Obv. they are not being viewed in the context of professionally produced videos and the ratings shouldn't be taken as such.

Also, from viewing these two dvds, the cover pictures are taken directly from their copies of the films and are indicative of the quality of the product. Now if only they costed less ...

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

jay, how much does subterranean charge? I've been looking for 'The Beaver Trilogy' for a long long time and I saw that they did a screening of it.

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

from what i've been able to tell from the videos he actually posts prices for, I think $15-25 is the norm for most of the videos on Subterranean.

We ought to just cut out the middleman completely and start doing a "movie share" through this site.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Not a bad idea -- I'm about to buy a DVD burner. . .

I don't feel guilt about sharing copies of films that are otherwise commercially unavailable in this country.

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:42 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

You shouldn't since these guys don't. You also shouldn't feel bad ripping and re-burning the movie that you buy from them since they don't own them. Maybe I should start selling 'TV Carnage' on eBay...

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 26 February 2004 22:26 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ebay is great for finding obscure films--I picked up my George Kuchar shorts there.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Thursday, 26 February 2004 22:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I've been looking for 'The Beaver Trilogy' for a long long time

Man, you and me both. I'm still kicking myself for missing a screening in Chicago a year ago.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 March 2004 17:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink has a lot of new unavailable films - I think I'm going to order the no-region DVD of von Trier's Dogville cut instead of seeing the 2-hour cut.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Where do you live Milo?

I know that in NYC the 3-hour cut is being released in March -- at least that's what I read. I'm assuming this will be the relase all over America.

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

There's a prerelease screening of the 3-hour cut here in Houston at the end of the month.

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:33 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


ryan (ryan), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


ryan (ryan), Monday, 1 March 2004 20:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Really? I assumed that American art-house theatres (we have an Angelika and two Landmark theatres) would show the two-hour cut to increase profits, etc. - I couldn't figure out any other reason for it to exist. Unless it's actually going to get a semi-wide release too?

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 1 March 2004 21:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I have a feeling it will start in Angelika (they already have the posters up) and then go wider. Nicole Kidman is so A-List right now, once word gets out about her performance (which is her best, by far) it might get picked up by some of the bigger chains.

Plus it's got Paul Bettany, Patricia Clarkson and a bunch of other 'now' stars.

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Monday, 1 March 2004 22:13 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The plan was to show the 2 hour cut, but Lion's Gate changed their mind (thankfully!) due to ??????. (For the record, I wrote them a ranting and raving letter back in November.)

BabyBuddha (BabyBuddha), Monday, 1 March 2004 22:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

For anyone that is interested, I contacted Subterranean Cinema. They do (or should I say "he does"--it's just one guy) sell copies of all of the films listed on the site. I didn't get prices for anything in particular, but he did tell me he does bulk rates for multiple orders & it sounds like it's cheaper if you don't mind multiple films on a tape (i.e. shorts/experimental).

My interested has been peaked in "the beaver trilogy". who has seen it? what's it all about? fill me in please.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Jay, I first heard about The Beaver Trilogy on This American Life (here's the episode in RealAudio -- it starts about 6 minutes in).

The way the TAL piece is structured (suspensefully) really piqued my curiosity, but if you just want the facts, here ya go:

In 1979, director Trent Harris shot some footage of some weird kid whom he randomly discovered in Beaver, Utah. The kid is in love with Harris's camera, hams it up with various celebrity impressions, and the 20-minute film (the first part of the trilogy) culminates in the kid doing an Olivia Newton-John impersonation at a local talent show.

In brief, the second and third parts of the trilogy are the exact same footage reenacted, first by Sean Penn (in 1981) and then by Crispin Glover (in 1985). (Actually, I don't think it's entirely exact -- there are some interesting discrepancies in each part of the trilogy.) Each of these films was sitting around in Harris's closet until the late 90s, when, for whatever reason, he was inspired to finally release them as one film.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 00:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 00:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I know!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 01:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

They showed it at the Yerba Buena in SF not too long ago and I found out a few days later ... I was so pissed. I would've called in sick to work and driven up there for it. *sad face*

dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 4 March 2004 17:38 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i just placed a $300 order through Subterranean! The guy who runs it, Don, is incredibly helpful. I'll give a full report when I receive my movies.

jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...
I just saw The Beaver Trilogy at the U. of Chicago. It is good!!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 3 December 2004 05:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

twelve years pass...

YouTube's getting better and better--found both Play It as It Lays and Puzzle of a Downfall Child on there tonight (also The Heartbreak Kid and Spielberg's TV-movie Something Evil).

clemenza, Monday, 27 March 2017 02:23 (two years ago) Permalink

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