The films of Bill Forsyth - C or D/S & D ?

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Any or all of his films; any opinions at all...?

I've never seen any, but snapped up "Local Hero" today on DVD to watch at some stage.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 22 February 2004 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Just finished watching Local Hero yesterday myself, and DAMN! What a great film. I hear that Gregory's Girl is also totally worth a look, but beyond that I don't know much about him. The fact that Local Hero alone exists is a good enough argument for canonization, though.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 27 February 2004 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Gregory's Girl is sentimental but in a fairly sweet, unassuming kind of manner, AND Claire Grogan's in it. It's also amazingly accurate in the depiction of British comprehensive school life circa late 1970's / early 1980's.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 27 February 2004 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Local Hero and Gregorys Girl are both sweet films, filled with real warmth for people. Forsyth has no other discernable directorial characteristics besides this warmth, from what I've seen, which includes that movie with Burt Reynolds (I think) as a burglar or safecracker, training in an apprentice. I cannot remember the name, sorry....
Oh and Being Human with Robin Williams, which is madly ambitious and fails due to this ambition, but still has that sweetness and warmth of the early films. It also has a horrible gloss of Hollywood ickiness...

David Nolan (David N.), Saturday, 28 February 2004 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Housekeeping is quite good, but I should add that when I saw it, I had already read the book (and at the time it just about the best thing I'd ever read).

Robomonkey (patronus), Thursday, 4 March 2004 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a copy of Housekeeping sitting at the top of my to watch pile.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 5 March 2004 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Out of curiosity has anyone seen the Gregory's Girl sequel? For that matter, has anyone seen Forsyth? He's basically disappeared and hasn't made anything in 5 years.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 5 March 2004 04:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Also a big "search" for Comfort And Joy too

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 5 March 2004 04:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
check out Forsyth's "That Sinking Feeling" if you can.

droll comedy about unemployed Scots who hatch a hairbrained caper to steal some sinks.

the ringing phonebox is the best bittersweet ending since Midnight Cowboy

schbomp, Thursday, 15 April 2004 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

to the unfamiliar-- the ringing phonebox is at the end of Local Hero (not in Sinking Feeling)

schbomp, Thursday, 15 April 2004 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

five years pass...

He surfaces in New York this week, after a screening of Housekeeping!

http://www.filmforum.org/films/forsyth.html

I hope the new print means a DVD is forthcoming.

If they take audience questions, the first one I can think of is "What happened to you?"

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 11 April 2010 15:42 (nine years ago) link

Along with The Conformist, I treasured my VHS copy of Housekeeping for years. The novel's just okay.

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 April 2010 19:59 (nine years ago) link

Comfort and Joy isn't as well known as Local Hero, probably not even as well known as Housekeeping, but it's on my short list of favourite films from the '80s.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 April 2010 23:42 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

housekeeping is a film that stays with you. i saw it once, in the early 90s, and images from it haunt me still.

anyone like breaking in?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:39 (seven years ago) link

housekeeping is a film that stays with you

I remember liking Housekeeping.

That is, in fact, the ONLY thing I remember about it.

Count-Dracula-Down (Eric H.), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:41 (seven years ago) link

Forsyth said at that FF appearance that he wanted to make the film so people would read the novel.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 May 2012 18:51 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-18393597

piscesx, Monday, 11 June 2012 18:14 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

havent read the book, maybe i will now, the movie is p great

liked this title card image/font/etc

http://images02.olx.co.uk/ui/5/31/10/1268305288_69743110_1-Pictures-of--DVD-HOUSEKEEPING-1987-Christine-Lahti-Sara-Walker-Andrea-Burchill-Bill-Forsyth.jpg

johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 July 2012 22:06 (seven years ago) link

is this movie on DVD?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 July 2012 06:08 (seven years ago) link

Housekeeping is available as a Sony MOD DVD-R via the WB Shop (or more correctly, the company they sub-contract to.) They also have Being Human in the Warner Archive line, and I imagine That Sinking Feeling will eventually pop up in the MGM line.

I have the Housekeeping disc: Great film, quality transfer. I believe it got the restoration treatment in the last 5-8 years. It was on itunes at one time as well.

Don't Feel Like Santana, But Oye Como Va To Them (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 July 2012 03:08 (seven years ago) link

i dvr'd it off sony hd channel, think it's showing a few more times this month at least

johnny crunch, Monday, 16 July 2012 14:43 (seven years ago) link

nine months pass...

that sinking feeling is basically 'bottle rocket' 15 yrs early & scottish, p good

johnny crunch, Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:30 (six years ago) link

^^trudat. I liked that scene where that guy starts airguitaring (with a real pick!) and then he and his mates begin singing "Holiday In The Sun".

Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:48 (six years ago) link

YES! He's enthusing about buying a Les Paul and wahwah and amplifier and "I've already got the plectrum!"

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 22:19 (six years ago) link

nine months pass...

for Britishers (and anyone else who can use iPlayer) Comfort And Joy is available to watch until Feb 9th.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01gxqg8/Comfort_and_Joy/

piscesx, Monday, 3 February 2014 11:52 (five years ago) link

One of my 30 or so favourite films ever. I wrote about it a few years ago:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/if-they-move-kill-em-steven-jeff-phil-count-down-their-favorite-films/30-comfort-and-joy-bill-forsyth-1984/220608311300362

I have a used VHS that I got a store-closing sale. Watched Defense of the Realm recently, the only other film I think I've ever seen Bill Patterson in.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 17:53 (five years ago) link

not Truly Madly Deeply, or Gilliam's Munchausen?

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 February 2014 17:58 (five years ago) link

No, haven't seen either. Looked at his IMDB page, and he was also in The Killing Fields and Chaplin--again, haven't seen them.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 February 2014 22:41 (five years ago) link

Love Bill Patterson, and this film.

My mum texted me all excited a couple of days ago to tell me that she'd heard on radio forth that they're releasing That Sinking Feeling with the original dialogue in April. I'd tried to get her it for christmas but it was £££ on amazon, and had the anglicised soundtrack.

sktsh, Thursday, 6 February 2014 00:07 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

My first viewing of Housekeeping in more than 15 years. Forgot about the leisurely opening, the quiet laying out of the comfortable and stifling family relations. It's part of the film's strange, quiet power that Christine Lahti seems initially miscast; she's so vibrant. That sequence in the forest with the frost-covered grass and the impression that invisible children are listening is special.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 August 2015 00:16 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

Gregory's Girl is getting the 4K treatment, and next month in NY there's some rare 35mm screenings of the others:

http://www.movingimage.us/programs/2019/09/27/detail/five-by-forsyth/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 25 August 2019 07:16 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

amazing... I watched That Sinking Feeling before breakfast and it was taken down less than an hour later. :/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 12:00 (one month ago) link

How did you feel the comedy transvestism played these days, Morbs?

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 12:26 (one month ago) link

I abhor trigger aesthetics, so fine

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 12:40 (one month ago) link

also it's done way more benignly than any US film of the era would do it

dialogue explicitly echoes Some Like It Hot ("i'm a girl" "i'm a boy")

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 12:59 (one month ago) link

Jonathan Murray:

An unhelpful attitude about Forsyth involves the patronizing critical notion that his films, while they have delighted many, are constrained by their obvious and sympathetic interest in the quirks of human identity and activity. A Bill Forsyth film, the argument goes, struggles to wrench its creative energies away from the small-scale (albeit charming) act­ions of harmless Walter Mitty types. The compliments routinely offered Forsyth’s films are often double-edged for this reason. “Gentle,” “wry,” “quirky,” “quaint,” “whimsical”—this is the rhetoric of (undeserved) diminution. Forsyth, to quote Jonathan Rosenbaum, all too often ends up dismissed as “a lowercase filmmaker” within histories of late-twentieth-century cinema.

Forsyth has been aware of this dilemma since his career’s earliest stages. At the time of Local Hero’s release, he said, “I feel insistently misunderstood . . . All the films I’ve made, I’ve always had a much darker side than most people have perceived.” It’s easy to see how such a superficial misreading might play out in the case of Local Hero. Its comic ensemble could be neatly pigeonholed as baffled (Mac), barmy (Happer), and bucolic (the folk of Ferness). But when the central characters of Forsyth’s cinema are properly considered, a far more complex picture emerges. Local Hero’s entire plot, for example, arises from and is resolved by the aspirations and actions of a protagonist (Happer) who suspects, but fails to fully understand, the compromised nature of his mental health. A similar structural premise shapes the plots and themes of both Comfort and Joy and Housekeeping. ...

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6600-local-hero-our-man-in-ferness

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:00 (one month ago) link

Re: Comfort and Joy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_Ice_Cream_Wars

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 15:06 (one month ago) link

the only forsyth films i haven't seen are, i think, housekeeping and that sinking feeling.

the others are all actively bad films to some extent or another

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 20:49 (one month ago) link


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