Frederick Wiseman

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I've only seen 'Titicut Follies'. The 'Vietnam' monologue was spectacular. Anyone seen 'Hospital'? Should I break my ass getting ahold of a copy?

dave q, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't break your ass (haha then you would be in an actual hospital) but its well worth seeing. The NFT did a Wiseman retro a couple of years ago which was pretty good - but its not all that easy stuff to get hold of.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Funny this should come up. There's a Wiseman retro coming to the Film Center in Chicago next week. Domestic Violence recently screened on American public television, but the local affiliate broadcast it in the middle of the day, so I missed out. So I haven't seen anything, which I know means there's a yawning gap in my understanding of documentary film. I like the utilitarian titles of his films after Titicut Follies: Model, Public Housing, Domestic Violence, The Store, etc.

Hopefully I will get myself to a few of the screenings at the Film Center.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i think facets video has most of them for sale or rent. the sale prices are extremely high but they rent via mail.

i've seen a lot of disturbing films, but titicut follies is the absolute most disturbing thing i have ever seen.

j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I know him not. Again -- info/links?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I tend to avoid Facets these days, mostly because it's out of the way but also because the quality of their videos is not exactly dependable. In general it seems to be a very visible, above-ground organization that retains a lot of the less-desirable aspects of something less renowned. Facets began in a church basement, and its video operation began by making (quasi) bootlegs I believe, and they've never quite left that seat-of-the-pants attitude completely behind.[/slander]

Actually seeing films there can be a frustrating experience, since they often have problems with the prints and projectors so you never quite know what (or how long) you're in for.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't even realize that Domestic Violence had already screened on PBS. That's too bad, since I missed it at Facets. Anyway, I'd like to catch a screening or two at the Film Center, esp. High School. I'm also woefully ignorant in the ways of Wiseman.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

This is the company that distributes all of Wiseman's films on 16mm (and video as well); I believe it may be Wiseman's own.

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

The only two Wiseman films I've seen (and I'm forgetting the titles) was one that appeared to be an instructional training film for a missile silo and another about a poor woman trying to get toner for a photocopier (that she ends up buying herself).

Both were great movies, but pretty heavy viewing

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

i've only seen high school and titicut; HS was a lot "lighter" and actually sort of funny.

j fail (cenotaph), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

C4 in the UK ran a near-complete Wiseman season 10 or more years ago so I've got 'Titicut Follies' on tape somewhere, but I wish I'd taped the rest of it now (at the time it seemed like C4 would ALWAYS be showing this kind of stuff).

Andrew L (Andrew L), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

F@cets is really frustrating right now - I've been (diplomatically) fighting with them over certain things for the past six months. One sad fact I've learned about small business is that when someone has a monopoly on something, there's no pressure to improve the service. And man, does their new website totally suck. Don't even bother with the shopping cart. They know this, too - I've told them a million times. Stick to the mail order if you have to.

I've seen High School 1 & 2 and loved them. I'm so ass-deep in documentary here that I don't even bother to check the rest out - maybe I'll do that this weekend.

Documentaries are extremely expensive to purchase - the Wiseman ones are about $400-500.

Any ?s about film / video buying, you can direct right here.

K#rry, Friday, 2 May 2003 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Chicagoans: I'm probably going to see High School tomorrow at the Film Center at 5:15. Let me know if you'd like to meet me there.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 May 2003 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Unfortunately, I'll be out in the burbs, probably curling up with a Wiseman vhs. Have fun, tho! By the way, downtown edu is open to the public and you can watch all the $$$ docs you want if you ever have some time to kill on a Saturday. You might need another edu id, though, I'm not sure.

K#rry, Friday, 2 May 2003 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

So I saw both Titicut Follies and High School yesterday. Both were very good, though I was less interested in the implicit "message" of the films ("institutions are dehumanizing") than in some of the individual scenes as compelling pieces of film in themselves.

I was curious, though, about a comment made in the Chicago Reader review of High School (by Dave Kehr): that Wiseman's roving camera, with its "pointless" close-ups, obscured the social issues and was thus "intellectually dishonest." He claims that Wiseman later learned to tame his camera and developed into a better filmmaker. I can understand this point theoretically, but it seems harsh to apply to this example, which I don't think suffered for its camera-work. And doesn't this ignore the fact that Wiseman (or any documentarian) manipulates his films in myriad ways through editing?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 May 2003 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I think his point may have been that Wiseman's manipulations in that early film were a bit more, well, dishonest. The scene I always see cited is when the principal (or is it vice-principal) peers into a classroom and Wiseman cuts to a scene of girls in gym class. The message is that the principal is a voyeur, a dirty old man.

I think it's careful to note that even though all documentarians manipulate their material via editing and other means, one shouldn't jump to the fashionable conclusion that all is subjective and there are no more or less truthful documentaries. Manipulations can be in the service of the truth or of lies.

Noël Carroll has a brilliant essay on this issue in a book entitled Post-Theory. I believe it's called something like "The Documentary Film and Postmodern Skepticism." Also worth reading on truth and form in the documentary is an essay in Gilberto Perez's The Material Ghost which touches on Robert Flaherty and Buñuel's Las Hurdes.

amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 5 May 2003 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmm, for some reason, I missed that shot. (I remember the gym class, but not the principal peering in.)

But I do agree with you about the potential of manipulation to serve truth. The reason I mentioned editing was merely to say that all movies are manipulated in some way, whereas Kehr seemed to be wary of manipulation period.

I'll have to check out the Carroll essay -- I generally enjoy his work, even when I disagree with him.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i am conflicted abt his umlaut

mark s (mark s), Monday, 5 May 2003 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...
He is making a rare public appearance here next week. Shall I go?

Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Thursday, 9 June 2005 18:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuck yeah!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link


the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 June 2005 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, that was very interesting.

He said that most of his films are getting DVD releases over the next year, by the way.

the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

It's almost like I was there!

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link

He said other things, too. With his mouth.

the D Double signal (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:10 (sixteen years ago) link

that's really great news (about the DVDs). i wonder who will be putting them out.

a spectator bird (a spectator bird), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Is there any update on this? I know that they're available from Zipporah on VHS and cost an absolute fortune, but any sign of DVDs yet? Even just one title would be nice...

Ben Ewart-Dean (DrAlfredNecessiter), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I have no information about it but I just want to say that I once had a meeting with Fred Wiseman in his house; he was wearing a robe and ate spaghetti and didn't offer me any. I was starving.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 17 August 2006 13:16 (fifteen years ago) link

He was starving too, you know.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 19 August 2006 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Why didn't anyone tell me there was a new Wiseman movie out?


A new documentary film by Frederick Wiseman

STATE LEGISLATURE shows the day-to-day activities of the Idaho Legislature, including committee meetings, debates of the House and Senate, informal discussions, meetings with lobbyists, constituents, the public and the press. The workings of a democratic government are not of interest solely to Americans, but, because so many countries in the world are currently trying to adopt a democratic form of government, the issues presented have relevance on a global scale. The film is an example of the achievements, values, constraints and limitations of the democratic process.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Just watched Public Housing - a revelation, honestly.

Anyone else have recommendations along this line? I added Robert Drew's Primary and Crisis to my queue; any other direct cinema types working today?

vermonter, Saturday, 29 November 2008 01:15 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

i saw meat MEAT once, about 25y ago, and still can remember images.

meisenfek, Friday, 20 February 2009 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

eleven months pass...

This has been going on here, gonna try to catch some:

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2010 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

i was actually kinda disappointed when all of this guy's stuff became available because it meant having to sit down and watch it all, rather than just talking about how it was tragic that it wasn't in print.

how long's meat? i have a thing for les sang des betes

schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

From whom is it available? the NYPL only holds VCs you have to watch IN the library!

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:04 (eleven years ago) link

last time i was at kim's they had a shelf of his stuff?

schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

for purchase btw, not rental
seems like zipporah has put out pretty much all of them, $30 each - maybe a lil cheaper at kim's.

schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

ah, I very seldom buy.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2010 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

im guessing i shd go see Titicut Follies tonight if I'm not buying, then

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 January 2010 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

if you're feeling long-ass documentary fatigue, you can use 'i'll see it on dvd' as the new 'i'll wait until it plays at the cinema'.

schlump, Friday, 29 January 2010 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

Boxing Gym is one of the best things I've seen this year tbh

ralph NAGLer (admrl), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 21:12 (ten years ago) link

There are a number of Wiseman films I love--Welfare and Near Death topping the list--but I didn't get much out of Boxing Gym. I just found that an inordinate amount of time was devoted to various people pummelling the practice bag.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 November 2010 17:00 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Just watch The Store! Didn't realize it was going to be two hours long, but still really enjoyed it. Felt like I had spent the day at Neiman's but without having a nice shirt or shoes to show for it. I want to watch more docs like this.

JacobSanders, Monday, 23 January 2012 08:01 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

i finally broke down and t0rr3nt3d a bundle of wiseman films... this stuff just isn't available ANYWHERE to buy or stream.
Already seen Boxing Gym, Missile and Zoo; all so very good. Now I have beat up copies of Public Housing, High School, State Legislature, Meat, Adjustment and Work, Essene, Juvenile Court, Law and Order, Primate, The Store, Hospital, Welfare, Blind, and Titticut Follies. Kinda excited.

let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 October 2012 06:49 (eight years ago) link

u can buy them directly from his company fyi -

johnny crunch, Friday, 19 October 2012 11:40 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

Hospital is on youtube in a high quality rip, in full.

Johnny Hotcox, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:50 (eight years ago) link

His latest will be at the NYFF

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:59 (eight years ago) link

opens in US Nov 8

Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:31 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Thought At Berkeley was very good. I don’t like every Wiseman film I see--found Boxing Gym a bore, didn’t care for his horse-racing film from the early ‘70s. But I’d put At Berkeley just a notch below Welfare and Near Death.

There’s so much that, unless you were taking notes for a review, it’s hard to summon everything afterwards. (The film runs four hours.) There was a point in the first half where I thought, “This is well made, no surprise, but it’s not the ‘70s anymore, and all those sequences of incredible tension and confrontation that would flare up all of a sudden in Welfare and Hospital, you’re just not going to have that here.” And you don’t; Wiseman never manufactures drama, so mostly it’s an endless procession of meetings and seminars. I don't think Mario Savio's even mentioned for the first couple of hours, and when he finally is, it's at a talk given inside something called the Free Speech Movement Cafe. But it did start to involve me more and more as it went along; the last hour, given over to a student protest/building-takeover concerning fees and other grievances, is not handled like you might expect (especially the resolution), and that’s the hour I’m mulling and puzzling over right now, in the best way possible. I do think Wiseman is editorializing there, but I also know my own personality and biases come into how I viewed his handling of the protest. Maybe he isn’t--I don’t know. From a review I found: “Has Frederick Wiseman, the patient filmmaker whose long documentaries listened to the voices of ordinary people in public housing and on welfare, gone over to the dark side of authority? He clearly gives credence to the Cal executives, but, as ever with Wiseman, he leaves plenty of footage with information that gives you a chance to make up your own mind.” Yes--people will see that hour different ways.

Not a great deal of humour, but three things did made me laugh. A couple of shots of a guy on a John Deere mowing the campus lawns--you need the set-up for that one. There’s one seminar where a white girl identifies herself as “squarely middle-class,” says her mom’s a teacher whose income is stagnant while her own fees go up, and the only support she can get are unsubsidized loans; she starts to cry, and the black girl beside her gives her a supportive “now, now” pat on the shoulder. I don’t think there was any intentional irony there, but I did laugh. And I found it funny when Robert Reich showed up halfway through to lead a class, sharing anecdotes from his Clinton days. There was a jarring disconnect between the world of a venerated documentarian and the much-despised political class. I figured that would be enough right there to ruin the film for some people, and that amused me.

clemenza, Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:03 (eight years ago) link

From the same Indiewire review: "Another question: Based on the proportion of women filmed by Wiseman in At Berkeley, you might think that the student body was 80% female. That's more a question of taste than reporting chops. Remember, Wiseman is the first person to say he’s not objective. He clearly likes attractive women -- not a sin, even at 83."

Well, at 51, I wasn't immune. Especially noticed the girl to the immediate right of the Thoreau/Emerson lecturer, and Sofia in Reich's class. Shame on Wiseman, shame on me.

clemenza, Monday, 16 September 2013 01:16 (eight years ago) link


Very gud laser controled organ. (Matt P), Monday, 16 September 2013 04:22 (eight years ago) link

feeling blessed to get at least one more out of him.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 July 2020 00:26 (one year ago) link

really loved In Jackson Heights and Ex Libris: NYPL so I decided to go back and watch all of his films from the beginning. So far have seen Titicut Follies, High School, Law and Order, Hospital, Basic Training, all released between 1967 and 1971 and all available on Kanopy

Dan S, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:52 (one year ago) link

opening this thread with more and more trepidation these days!

plax (ico), Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:57 (one year ago) link

titicut follies and law and order are hard to watch!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:03 (one year ago) link

High School was filmed at northeast high in Philadelphia. The best scene I thought was where “The Dangling Conversation” by Simon and Garfunkel was recited and then played by the teacher, and the students’ and her reactions are shown. I also liked the sex education scenes and the letter from a former student in the military that a teacher read at an assembly at the end. It was made in the era of my older siblings. It felt like a real time capsule

Dan S, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:08 (one year ago) link

xp agree

Dan S, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:09 (one year ago) link

Hospital was filmed at Metropolitan Hospital Center in NY. The transgender teenager’s description of her experience in that film was moving to me, I can’t think of another film from 1970 that might have shown something like that (I may be wrong, correct me if I am)

Dan S, Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:12 (one year ago) link

High School is a top-10 favorite film of mine, every scene is a killer. Sometimes I wonder if it just hits me so hard only because it's the subject of his that I have the most firsthand experience with, never having been in family court, basic training, a ballet troupe, or the Idaho state legislature.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 31 July 2020 12:29 (one year ago) link

I've never been to Jackson Heights, and that's probably my top Wiseman.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Friday, 31 July 2020 12:56 (one year ago) link

i'd be happy to show you J Heights if NYC ever comes back

(or is that where yr spouse is from?)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 13:29 (one year ago) link

i visited jackson heights shortly after seeing the film (a friend lives there) and it was much nicer than anywhere else in nyc

plax (ico), Friday, 31 July 2020 20:16 (one year ago) link

didn't think Essene (1972) was all that compelling, but liked the confessional monologue toward the end

Dan S, Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:22 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 14 September 2020 15:45 (one year ago) link

what's up with youtube imbeds lately? does ILX not embed unless it's https?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 14 September 2020 15:46 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I've seen Titticut Follies and High School, probably in my documentary and propaganda class in undergrad. The Lincoln Center was streaming Ballet about a week ago. Alas, I missed it.

I feel like this clip would be more engrossing if the film had been shot on 16 like his other films. But I am an inveterate analogue loyalist.

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:21 (ten months ago) link

At the same time, as happens with artists working in one mode their entire careers, the work kind of loses its flavor for having been rehashed. One can only be a maverick so many times in one's lifetime.

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:23 (ten months ago) link

They still have almost all of his films on Kanopy

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:54 (ten months ago) link

Last time I checked they just had High School and one other film, probably Titticut Follies

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 21:04 (ten months ago) link

We've been watching City Hall over the past couple of days and the highlight so far has been an unusually fascinating scene with a garbage truck that can apparently eat everything.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 12 November 2020 04:19 (ten months ago) link

variable, that's weird. I looked again and I still see three pages worth of his films. Maybe it depends on which library you subscribed with.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 12 November 2020 04:27 (ten months ago) link

ya kanopy is institution-specific

there’s a big torrent with most of his movies on em

flopson, Thursday, 12 November 2020 06:33 (ten months ago) link

oh, that is weird. you'd think SAIC would be all over his filmography.

very avant-garde (Variablearea), Friday, 13 November 2020 21:15 (ten months ago) link

I think it does depend on the library, don't know particulars

Dan S, Thursday, 19 November 2020 00:23 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Excellent long piece on Wiseman:

Nobody talks seriously about writing the Great American Novel anymore, but Wiseman belongs to a generation that used to, and his body of work, when considered in the manner he lays out above, represents the nearest contemporary equivalent I can think of. Especially when viewed in Wiseman’s terms — as a single, ongoing project — the scope and ambition become panoramic, a national monument. Norman Mailer used to refer to his desire to write the Great American Novel in tragic-heroic terms, casting himself as an Ahab in doomed pursuit of what he called “the big one.” Wouldn’t it be funny, though, if the Great American Novel actually does exist, only it’s not a novel and has been quietly appearing in serialized form on public television for the past 50 years?

I'm going to go back to Monrovia, Indiana, probably tonight. I started it months ago, but just couldn't get in the mood.

clemenza, Friday, 1 January 2021 00:03 (eight months ago) link

The film, not the place--forgot the italics.

clemenza, Friday, 1 January 2021 00:04 (eight months ago) link

Essene and Canal Zone are both low-key mood pieces that get overlooked.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 1 January 2021 14:37 (eight months ago) link

Looking forward to Canal Zone, I ordered that one along with State Legislature and Sinai Field Mission for the holiday2020 sale, which I think is still going.

flappy bird, Saturday, 2 January 2021 02:15 (eight months ago) link

caught a bunch of city hall on pbs on tv. there’s like 8 minutes of it that’s just Fred filming a garbage truck trash compactor destroying some large furniture and kitchen appliances

flopson, Saturday, 2 January 2021 05:06 (eight months ago) link

love that scene tbh

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 2 January 2021 05:13 (eight months ago) link

Garbage truck scene one of my fave scenes in any 2020 movie.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 7 January 2021 01:34 (eight months ago) link

i get so excited irl to watch garbage trucks crush large furniture. how great would it be if wiseman did a garbage truck movie

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 7 January 2021 02:39 (eight months ago) link

Looks like PBS is making City Hall available for a couple days

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 January 2021 14:12 (seven months ago) link

Aargh--missed this!

clemenza, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:29 (seven months ago) link

Just watched Blind & Central Park. Both really hit the spot.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:54 (seven months ago) link

State Legislature is a very good cynical/pessimistic companion to City Hall. and Good GOD we need to fix nutrition in the state of Iowa STAT

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:38 (seven months ago) link

Law & Order is my fav of the half-dozen ive seen so far. all criminals are beautiful

flopson, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:13 (seven months ago) link

If you guys have library cards, join Kanopy for a bunch of Wiseman.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:14 (seven months ago) link


Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 January 2021 19:48 (seven months ago) link

...did he die?

flopson, Saturday, 30 January 2021 20:12 (seven months ago) link


That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 January 2021 20:37 (seven months ago) link

I’m sorry guys

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:05 (seven months ago) link

Go on, James...

flappy bird, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:17 (seven months ago) link

Meant to say my libraries stopped doing Kanopy years ago.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:49 (seven months ago) link

okay, was fearing the obit!

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:06 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

saw Primate, thought the statement "after a time watching it is possible to wonder which ones of these two sets of primates is the more strange" made sense

Dan S, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 01:27 (seven months ago) link

I just watched Meat, which I found several degrees less disturbing/difficult to watch than Primate. Really, really tough.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 01:58 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

City Hall is on Kanopy now. I still haven't watched Monrovia...I was just telling a friend that I have so much movie access at home--Kanopy, Criterion, Prime, Netflix, Tubi, Hollywood Suite (not to mention the hundreds and hundreds of DVDs I've bought and filed away unseen)--that I often find I'm paralyzed; I end up rewatching some bit of fluff instead of the thousand films I should be watching. But I am going to make a concerted effort in the next couple of weeks to watch the two Wisemans.

clemenza, Sunday, 16 May 2021 20:50 (four months ago) link

I wonder if the Kanopy selection is different depending on your library, but all 43 Wiseman films are available in mine. I've been going through them chronologically and recently saw Meat, which was another gruesome one in the vein of Primate

Dan S, Saturday, 22 May 2021 23:33 (three months ago) link

yea kanopy varies dramatically by library

flopson, Saturday, 22 May 2021 23:39 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

Canal Zone (1977) was interesting, mostly visually, but I thought Sinai Field Mission (1978) and Manoeuvre (1979) were both kind of dull

Dan S, Wednesday, 30 June 2021 23:31 (two months ago) link

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