Charlie's Angels Full Throttle=Best Movie Ever

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Or, OK, best Hollywood summer movie of 2003. Seriously, it kicks ass. It's hyper-textual, meta-textual, edited within a millisecond of its life, and with the best soundtrack I've heard in forever. And it kicks ass, too. Did I say that?

JesseFox (JesseFox), Monday, 30 June 2003 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Seriously, it kicks ass. It's hyper-textual, meta-textual, edited within a millisecond of its life,

The sound you hear is me furiously hitting my head on my desk.

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 30 June 2003 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

What is it they say? When it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it? I dunno, I was expecting to be bored, and I was wildly entertained. It's everything the Matrix sequel should have been.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Monday, 30 June 2003 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey! I liked the Matrix sequel!

Girolamo Savonarola, Monday, 30 June 2003 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link

The Matrix sequel is Mars, the Charlie's Angels sequel is Venus.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Monday, 30 June 2003 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree, it is the best summer movie of 2003 so far. Though I liked the first one a little more.

s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

personal taste usually means that i hate movies like this, (the more frenetic something is the more bored i get) but i would be willing to see this if i found any of the leads compelling on screen in any way.

It's hyper-textual, meta-textual

its strange to me, and maybe im wrong, but it seems like this sort of thing is always taken as a virtue in pop cinema and as boring pretentious twaddle in "art" films.

ryan (ryan), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's just that pop movies are more likely to get that kind of thing right than "art" movies. Hypertext is a completely pop form.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 04:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, name some pop movies that got it "right". (And please don't bring up Adaptation - too obvious and, in my otherwise unimportant opinion, the biggest pile of shite ever laid upon celluloid.)

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 2 July 2003 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Undercover Brother gets it right, as do (to a large extent) the Austin Powers movies. The problem with scattershot referencing in art cinema is for it to work it has to stick with the audience, but the references in art films are often willfully obscure and therefore only preach to the converted. If the hyper-textual nature of the narrative relies on this to proceed, not getting the references will actively hinder the piece.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 09:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Pulp Fiction, of course -- pop that somehow got mistaken for "art".

JesseFox (JesseFox), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

pop that somehow got mistaken for "art".

I heartily agree with you there!

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 2 July 2003 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but I mean it in a good way....

JesseFox (JesseFox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not that bad, am I?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 3 July 2003 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link

You know there is such a thing as pop art, people.

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 3 July 2003 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes there is! For what it's worth, here's my actual review. (They dropped an em-dash and thus confused one of the sentences needlessly, but ah well. Editing's hard.)

JesseFox (JesseFox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

(also, pardon the didactic explanation of mash-ups in the first few grafs -- I had to assume that at least some of the reading audience would be unfamiliar with the concept)

JesseFox (JesseFox), Thursday, 3 July 2003 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

You know there is such a thing as pop art, people.

i agree of course. and part of my point was that since i dont particularly distinguish between "pop" and "art" in my own viewing i have notice a peculiar double standard in the way people approach pop films vs. self consciously artistic films. seeing as how i dont find hypertextuality or metatextuality very interesting in either case i dont know what i would make of CA2.

Adaptation, however, is not that great but it DOES do more interesting things by being metatextual than just the standard Godardian "hey i'm a movie" stuff.

ryan (ryan), Thursday, 3 July 2003 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw it with a gay friend & he said something to the effect of: "In my whole life I've never seen anything so - what's the opposite of homoerotic?" - and with an (older) female friend who barely stayed awake.

Despite this, I liked it, though not as much as the first one even though McG's finally realised he's directing a MOVIE and not a bunch of music videos connected only by ass-shots. But his very competence is part of the problem - the very fact that there's some attention to narrative flow (and even occasional ill-timed realism)this time means there's less room for the out-and-out goofiness of last time - now when Cameron dances it's all stylised instead of silly, and with Cameron silly is funnier.

Also don't think the references resonate in any way - the Hammerdance should be hilarious but is only amusing because it's not adding any new blood to an old joke.

Soundtrack is terrific, though.

b.R.A.d. (Brad), Saturday, 5 July 2003 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
loved it.

PVC (peeveecee), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

john cleese was a bit pathetic but what do you want with a role like that. i found it very bitter to see. it made me sad. he was struggling to do something with it but what could he do?

erik, Monday, 1 September 2003 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Hilarious motorcycle scene, but I can't remember anything after that, and there was nothing as purely wonderful as the Cameron Diaz butt dance in the first one. Both movies were about 30 percent inspired with a whole lotta dud scenes...

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 11 September 2003 18:14 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the brief break into the Hammer Dance was as wonderful, but there wasn't anything as breathtaking as the shot where Crispin Glover turns and fires and the Angels peel out.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 12 September 2003 14:15 (seventeen years ago) link


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