btw EDB already said this was helpful for him
also I'm gay so your feminist reading is wrong
this idea seems to bother you quite a bit. I wonder why.
― corey, Monday, 7 March 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Christine can answer for herself, corey, but some of the imagery in the whole "sex saps creative/competitive drive" idea is holding over from Victorian mores about women and how their sexual allure would cloud men's minds and sap their energy and will, and turn men away from pure intellectualism which was supposed to be their true strength. Obv a person could have reasons for abstinence that didn't involve those ideas at all, but there are deep anti-feminist roots here.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:48 (thirteen years ago) link
other endeavours can suck it imo
if a desire to fap is really that much of a energy sapper you got other problems
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
this is an experiment, whether it fails or not is irrelevant
― corey, Monday, 7 March 2011 01:56 (thirteen years ago) link
experimentation is a beautiful thing
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
zilch-curious
― WmC, Monday, 7 March 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link
xp It goes back much, much farther than the 19th century, actually. And I have a strong dislike for science used long past its sell-by date, particularly psychiatric science. (Pop Freudism, esp.) But this is my problem to deal with, so ignore me if you wish.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Monday, 7 March 2011 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Victorian mores? What about Chinese chi energy concepts? Surely this goes back to that more than anything.
― gnarly gnarlingtons in my life (Trayce), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:05 (thirteen years ago) link
dont know about the linkage btwn victorian mores/feminism, but I can maybe see where successfully imposing some self-discipline over compulsive urges might have positive side-effects for someone feeling in a rut or w/e without it necessarily emanating from 'sex/women are stealing my natural POWER'
Not rly convinced by 'rechannelling of energies' but yknow go for it
― Achillean Heel (darraghmac), Monday, 7 March 2011 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Whatever your take on the mechanics of it (I, as a good Freudian, feel like that energy has gotta go somewhere; whether you have any control of where it goes and how it manifests itself, though, is another issue), I think you do notice some kind of qualitative change that, if nothing else, is interesting to play out in order to get some sort of articulation of how you relate to your sexual desire in certain circumstances. And it seems like that's the reason you're doing this, rather than to summon the energy to write the great American novel, or whatever.
― EDB, Monday, 7 March 2011 04:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Your spell will be broken when I make my marathon erotic spectacular* titled 30-Day Asstinence.
*porn
― rittah shpoaht (Abbbottt), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link
if I have to go more than three hours without very emotionally intense sex I become irritable & grouchy
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
damn you gotta have sex every two hours and fifty five minutes owned
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:34 (thirteen years ago) link
owned meaning you got owned not owned as in me directing my post at your username
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link
wait no does that post I owned you with even make sense
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
for some reason that is making me lol really hard
xpost more lol
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have o-faced
― Neu! romancer (dayo), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
honestly thinking about it you got owned anyway but yeah my post doesnt make sense
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.energyfiend.com/wp-content/steven-tyler-210x300.jpg
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link
uh-owned I'm having a fantasy
owned face
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link
i think the other reason i wouldn't try this is i worry it would end up in
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lepp9a5ZYz1qexswno1_400.gif
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf is that
― corey, Monday, 7 March 2011 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link
cough
― vanilla friedman (electricsound), Monday, 7 March 2011 04:50 (thirteen years ago) link
if I go more than two days without jerking off or being pleasured i instantly get a boner whenever i see anything spherical in shape
― orville reddenflocka (San Te), Monday, 7 March 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ this.
― OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Monday, 7 March 2011 16:18 (thirteen years ago) link
No orgasms for more than 48 hours starts to feel (physically) like nicotine withdrawal to me - which isn't energy, exactly, but a kind of muscle tension.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 7 March 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I count JO as abstinence, btw
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 March 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i've been doing two to three day stints without jerking it recently, and the result has been that having sex is infinitely more pleasurable and i am much more active in my choices of partners, positions, etc.
― tbf explicitly gay albums aren't quite as cultural (the table is the table), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Its been well over 30 days for me already, since I ditched my last partner late last year and don't find it's worth the bother to go it alone.
I'm never in the mood anymore it seems. In large part because of a prescription med I need to take that's a complete libido killer. I actually *iiked* that side effect at first because it made it easy to resist the late-night booty texts I was until then too tempted to take her up on, from someone whom I was finding increasingly disrespectful and annoying.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 8 March 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
my meds are supposed to squash my libido, but they don't. although it takes me forever to bust a nut.
― OLD MAN YELLS AT SHOUT RAP (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 8 March 2011 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Woops, gotta start over u_u
― corey, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha "accident"
― Slow lorax loves getting tickled (dayo), Wednesday, 9 March 2011 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
It just kinda happened :(
― corey, Thursday, 10 March 2011 00:23 (thirteen years ago) link
but hey, the upside is I don't think I've ever gone four days without jacking it
Since admitting to being a good Freudian, I heard an anecdote where Freud, in a lecture, admitted that sublimation doesn't really work. Heh.
Also, the other thing that's been sort of gotten at is that, after holding it in for like 8 or so days, jerking off is a completely different experience. Way more intense.
― EDB, Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link
there is no question in my mind that shagging is wayyyy better when there is no intersample fapping
― australian rules football quarterback (electricsound), Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:14 (thirteen years ago) link
x2. Not only will it be way better, but i'll be way more in the mood in the first place
― Lee626, Thursday, 10 March 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i do this all the time!
― homosexual II, Thursday, 10 March 2011 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Friday, 11 March 2011 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah that happened to me when I tried Paxil years ago. Switched that shit up asap iirc.
― ENBB, Friday, 11 March 2011 11:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Literally like 45 minutes. My back can't take that, my wife usually leaves and manually whack it until I'm done
― The Scenario (chrisv2010), Friday, 11 March 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Her first orgasm, about a week after changing meds, was a thing of beauty.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i did this in high school once
was dying after two weeks tbh
― brigitte beardo (donna rouge), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 03:35 (thirteen years ago) link
I did this in high school, too, over and over again. In fact, you could say that my high school years was one long involuntary abstinence ordeal.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
An ex was on an anti-depressant that didn't diminish her libido at all, but she could not reach orgasm. Oral, penetration, vibrators without me present, nada.I think that side effect made her depression worse.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:12 PM (5 days ago)
has opposite effect on me
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
You have orgasms all the time but don't want to?
― dom p's rusty Nuts (sic), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Or gets depressed by every orgasm she has?
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
only orgasms while depressed
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 00:35 (thirteen years ago) link
anytime ive sworn off jerking off i've gotten so much play
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 16 March 2011 01:15 (thirteen years ago) link
-feel like doing that would actually diminish the chances of gettin laid just because you'd be all "welp i came two hours ago so w/e"
A rather-kinky girl told a story once about ma making her partner go a week with no orgasms because she wanted to see how large of a load she could swallow.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Friday, 18 March 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
she must have felt really close to her to open up like that
― ancient, but very sexy (DJP), Friday, 18 March 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
oh I misread that, they were even closer than I thought
that girl sounds fun.
― The Scenario (chrisv2010), Friday, 18 March 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I think a reference to the urban legend about the cheerleader/random gay celebrity/whatever who had to get his/her stomach pumped after swallowing a massive amount of semen is needed here.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 18 March 2011 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i havent read this whole thread but this sort of experiment seems like it could put you on the fast track to testicular cancer.
― calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Friday, 18 March 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Even if you're a woman?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno maybe swallowing cum gives you cancer who knows.
Oh wait.
― bad voise, it sucked, pick a seat (Trayce), Saturday, 19 March 2011 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think that it works that way SS.
― ENBB, Saturday, 19 March 2011 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link
why risk it imo
― the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 March 2011 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Would like to see how the Daily Mail handles this: "Abstinence Causes Cancer! So have lots of sex. Er, no wait... That doesn't fit in with out right wing agenda... FREE pr0n DVD for every reader!!!"
― a murder rap to keep ya dancin, with a crime record like Keith Chegwin (snoball), Saturday, 19 March 2011 13:37 (thirteen years ago) link
I meant prostate cancer and yeah that is kind of how it works
― calling planet dearth (sunny successor), Sunday, 20 March 2011 06:36 (thirteen years ago) link
isn't that only if you're older?
― corey, Sunday, 20 March 2011 13:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Prostate problems mostly show up in older men, but he's right: The common American sex pattern of not touching your dick or letting anyone else touch your dick until you find True Love, having hot monkey sex lots and lots of times for several years, breaking up, and then letting your dick rot for a few more years until you find True Love again is not good for the prostate at all. Your body is set up for regular ejaculations, and yes, masturbation counts. (No, I don't have a recommended ejaculation frequency.)
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:13 (thirteen years ago) link
The common American sex pattern of not touching your dick or letting anyone else touch your dick until you find True Love, having hot monkey sex lots and lots of times for several years, breaking up, and then letting your dick rot for a few more years until you find True Love
I don't know if this is accurate...
― corey, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I should have said "traditional", not "common." That's really what I meant.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
ah, that makes sense
― corey, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm really glad that the stigma against masturbation is much, much less than it once was.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
well, once the priests started offering it instead of penance instead of three hail mary's.......
― the '' key on my keybord is not working (darraghmac), Sunday, 20 March 2011 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
...offering to give all the little boys personal private lessons in how to do it?
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 20 March 2011 22:39 (thirteen years ago) link