Contraception: The Poll

women are already conditioned to be the ones who think about it? raw sexism?

xpost

I was wondering if it was a physiological issue - impossible to stop the production of sperm without killing testosterone too or something.

that, too. It's easier to halt the release of one egg v. the production of bazillions of sperm.

so this new pill they're workin on

??? link? I am out of the loop.

a morning after pill for 6 days after. will find link

that's not exactly what i was hoping for :(

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/11/AR2010061103522.html

boy that article spends a lot of time telling you why jerks are against it

it also has its head completely up its ass

But the new drug is a close chemical relative of the abortion pill RU-486, raising the possibility that it could also induce abortion by making the womb inhospitable for an embryo.

RU-486 is not an "abortion pill." It prevents implantation. An unimplanted zygote is neither embryo nor fetus; it cannot be aborted.

huh? you can take RU-486 up to like 2 months. definitely post-implantation. anyway the point should obviously be "who cares if it causes abortion or not"

that's true, but I mean: an abortion is a surgical procedure. unless we want to start calling miscarriages "abortions," there is no abortion pill.

Wait what? That doesn't really make sense. Sure there are. Medical abortions are just as much abortions as surgical abortions.

RU-486 is not an "abortion pill." It prevents implantation

As far as I understand it that really depends on how it is used. RU-486 can be used in small doses as emergency and non-emergency contraception. However, it is also used as an abortifacient in medical abortions. When given at higher doses it causes (among other things) the endometrial lining to breakdown at which point an already fertilized and implanted egg will detach. Another drug is then given to start uterine contractions so the women has a medically induced miscarriage.

I'm very pro-choice as you probably know but I don't think you can really say that medical abortions aren't "real" abortions.

yeah i don't have a problem calling what RU-486 causes an abortion

Yeah I mean, I don't even really see how there is room for debate here. If a confirmed pregnant woman elects terminate a pregnancy by medical abortion rather than surgery that's still an abortion.

err should have read elects "to" terminate

yeah sorry john youre not making any sense

i think maybe you are confusing ru-486 (which is not called this anymore, it is called mifeprex and terminates or "aborts" a confirmed pregnancy) with the morning after pill?

also, medically, a miscarriage is an abortion. it is called a spontaneous abortion. a surgical abortion is a therapeutic abortion, and an abortion via mifeprex is a medical or nonsurgical abortion (ime)

yeah you guys're right, I'm just leery of describing the preventing of implantation as "abortion"

it doesnt prevent implantation john

sorry to call you by your real name, shit is not heated

implantation occurs with 72 hours. mifeprex can be used up to 7 weeks of pregnancy

it's ok rox this would not be the first time I am wrong about something!

what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no way

it is embarrassing tho to be wrong on medical stuff way back in the day it was the one thing I was usually never wrong about

we all make mistakes

(thread is full circle)

uh oh did you make a mistake a few days ago or

withdrawal (lol) - for reals

if you read one or two posts before "we all make mistakes" you will see that i am referring to john

withdrawal (lol) - for reals

Been there, totally. Jizzing all over someone else tends to lose its charm (what little it has, tbh) when you're doing so only for contraceptive purposes. There's an element of justifiable anxiety in every ejaculation.

Girlfriend says she was a 34B pre-Mirena (which she got a couple of months before we met), now a 34D - no other weight gain. Possibly the most awesome contraceptive side effect ever, aside from no babies.

anything is possible, I suppose, but since there's no estrogen in Mirena, this seems unlikely.

Yeah was thinking the same.

yes is your gf entering puberty or

lol

Third try was the charm! And I have a tilted uterus apparently.

Cramping SO HARD RIGHT NOW going to bed.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

:-)

http://www.amazing-animations.com/animations/congratulations4.gif

Been there, totally. Jizzing all over someone else redacted
― kenan, Friday, July 2, 2010 4:22 PM (2 months ago)

You wanna start some shit? Wait, don't answer that.

Aw man, you know I'm playin.

YAY LAUREL!!!

What kind did you get? If it's a ParaGard the cramps will be awful for the fist 6 months or so but it gets better. My advice is to invest in some maximum strength painkillers and stick with it! :D

Don't make me have to come back there and separate you two.

I don't know if I've posted this yet. but one of the other students had been using withdrawal as his only contraceptive method for the entire time he had been married--about two years. There was also someone who had been using the rhythm method as her only form of contraception for the five years she had been married. The rhythm method, not the basal temperature method. In 2009. Not for religious or medical reasons, but just because. (Both of these people were under 25, BTW.)

Aw man, you know I'm playin.

Of course! And I'm making poop jokes. The universe remains in balance.

Para! I never had cramps before, or not memorable ones, so I thought, how bad could a little cramping be? But they're still going....

Para! I never had cramps before, or not memorable ones, so I thought, how bad could a little cramping be? But they're still going....

Are you feeling any better now?

Better this morning! Not symptom-free, but better. :) Man, NO WONDER people don't like getting their periods if this is what it feels like!

Yeah, I have a Para too and rarely had cramps before insertion. The first couple days of each period for the six months following insertion were pretty awful. A lot of ppl get fed up during that time and get them removed but after six months it gets a lot better. Just make sure you are prepared and have your painkillers of choice on hand during those times. I've had mine for 4 + years now and my periods are like they were pre-IUD.