aww that sucks Laurel. My gyn does not feel comfortable inserting IUDs in nulliparous women and refered me to a partner in her practice, who did an ultrasound to see if the, er, path was clear. It was, and he was OK doing it, but after further talks with doc I decided to just stay on the pill. Birth control options are still sucktastic imo. Surely we (and by "we" I mean MEN wtf) should have more to choose from by now.
― quincie, Tuesday, 23 March 2010 18:13 (sixteen years ago)
Oh, and this medical office doesn't offer any services on the weekends, so for someone like me with only 2 days of bleeding, if it strikes on a wkend, you can write off THAT month for the insert attempt, too. Makes me so stressed and irritated, it puts me right off the whole reason for using bc in the first place.
― Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 March 2010 19:53 (sixteen years ago)
Wait - did your doctor say that they will only insert it while you're having your period? Mine was inserted mid cycle and without any misoprostol and it was fine. I suspect that they would want to insert while you're on your period because the os would be more open but that might not be necessary if you take the misoprostol?
Also, do you know how experienced your dr is inserting IUDs? I ask because the rate of expulsion and insertion success is directly proportional to the number of insertions the particular doc has done so it's best to have someone who is really comfortable with the procedure. The NP who inserted mine does over 250 insertions a year.
I'm really sorry that you've had all this trouble and hope it goes better for you the next time around. :/
― t(o_o)t (ENBB), Monday, 29 March 2010 01:52 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, really, find an NP.
― kate78, Monday, 29 March 2010 06:14 (sixteen years ago)
Who knew getting a diaphragm these days was so difficult? My doctor didn't know how to fit one, so sent me to another one; when I went to fill my prescription, they told me that they weren't made anymore (!) but did discover they were still and had to special order one...My doc wanted me to stop using the pill as I am close to menopause. What other non-hormonal options (aside from condoms & sponge) are there these days?
― clay/tone nut/mother (doo dah), Monday, 29 March 2010 11:32 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah they really don't use diaphragms much anymore. Cervical caps are still available and copper IUDs but that's about it (in addition to the ones you mentioned) in terms of non-hormonal options.
― t(o_o)t (ENBB), Monday, 29 March 2010 11:40 (sixteen years ago)
Cervical caps that are marketed as contraception, though?
― kenan, Monday, 29 March 2010 21:49 (sixteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cap
― t(o_o)t (ENBB), Monday, 29 March 2010 22:32 (sixteen years ago)
At first when I read your post I was wondering what else you would use them for but I think maybe you were thinking of diva cup/keeper type things?
― t(o_o)t (ENBB), Monday, 29 March 2010 22:38 (sixteen years ago)
boyz r crazy
― kate78, Monday, 29 March 2010 22:53 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah I was thinking of the cup.
― kenan, Monday, 29 March 2010 23:36 (sixteen years ago)
Cup... cap... cut me some slack here.
― kenan, Monday, 29 March 2010 23:38 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.newsweek.com/id/235939
― plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 11:40 (sixteen years ago)
^^newsweek about IUDs losing their stigma w/ 20somethings
― plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 11:41 (sixteen years ago)
c/d: finding used rubbers in your room during spring cleaning that you apparently forgot to throw away
― Phoenix in Flight (Cattle Grind), Friday, 9 April 2010 11:51 (sixteen years ago)
i have a real bad short circuit in my brain that sometimes confuses/mispronounces IUDs as IEDs
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/001-0418082510-ied-cutout01.jpg
― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Friday, 9 April 2010 14:57 (sixteen years ago)
If you meant "nurse practitioner", most of the medical staff at my GYN are NPs, and my first insert attempt was done by an NP...the second was done by a doctor but apart from the fact that docs are allowed to use local anesthetic, it was no more successful.
Have been on the mini-pill since then but today, for the first time, I forgot to bring my pack to work, so now I'll be like 6 hours late and it's invalidated for at least 48 hours. I WANT OFF THE MERRY-GO-ROUND NOW PLS.
― Ask foreigners and they will tell you the gospel comes from America. (Laurel), Friday, 9 April 2010 15:53 (sixteen years ago)
Great column about how boys know nothing about BC
― kate78, Friday, 9 April 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)
“I was thinking you were just magical, like a unicorn,” he told her. “I mean, you hope one exists somewhere, but you never think you’ll get to live with one…a cool chick with no period drama that has sex all month long.” He added, “The guys thought I was making it up.”
Guessing he never had sex with his unicorn again.
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 9 April 2010 19:20 (sixteen years ago)
like for me condoms r all abt not getting the clap, so contraception is really weird to hear abt. the first line in the think i linked to upthread is like "most women spend 30 years trying not to get preggers" which is fucking mad tbh
― plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:07 (sixteen years ago)
If guys worried more about contraception (in addition to worrying about the clap) there'd be a lot fewer dazed looking dudes in my waiting room...
― kate78, Friday, 9 April 2010 20:23 (sixteen years ago)
yeah but i am a homo tho and not really anticipating any major changes in the male reproductive system soon.
― plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:24 (sixteen years ago)
evolution happens everyday!
― kate78, Friday, 9 April 2010 20:26 (sixteen years ago)
Aside from raw sexism, is there a reason male birth control hasn't made any real advances?
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:31 (sixteen years ago)
i hope ppl w/ other forms of contraception also use condoms tho yeah?
― plax (ico), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:32 (sixteen years ago)
cos like
women are already conditioned to be the ones who think about it? raw sexism?
xpost
― kate78, Friday, 9 April 2010 20:33 (sixteen years ago)
I was wondering if it was a physiological issue - impossible to stop the production of sperm without killing testosterone too or something.
― a cross between lily allen and fetal alcohol syndrome (milo z), Friday, 9 April 2010 20:59 (sixteen years ago)
that, too. It's easier to halt the release of one egg v. the production of bazillions of sperm.
― kate78, Friday, 9 April 2010 21:06 (sixteen years ago)
so this new pill they're workin on
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)
??? link? I am out of the loop.
― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)
a morning after pill for 6 days after. will find link
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:44 (fifteen years ago)
that's not exactly what i was hoping for :(
― an outlet to express the dark invocations of (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:45 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/11/AR2010061103522.html
― roxymuzak, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)
boy that article spends a lot of time telling you why jerks are against it
― Hans-Jörg Butt (harbl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)
it also has its head completely up its ass
But the new drug is a close chemical relative of the abortion pill RU-486, raising the possibility that it could also induce abortion by making the womb inhospitable for an embryo.
RU-486 is not an "abortion pill." It prevents implantation. An unimplanted zygote is neither embryo nor fetus; it cannot be aborted.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)
huh? you can take RU-486 up to like 2 months. definitely post-implantation. anyway the point should obviously be "who cares if it causes abortion or not"
― Hans-Jörg Butt (harbl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)
that's true, but I mean: an abortion is a surgical procedure. unless we want to start calling miscarriages "abortions," there is no abortion pill.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:07 (fifteen years ago)
Wait what? That doesn't really make sense. Sure there are. Medical abortions are just as much abortions as surgical abortions.
RU-486 is not an "abortion pill." It prevents implantation
As far as I understand it that really depends on how it is used. RU-486 can be used in small doses as emergency and non-emergency contraception. However, it is also used as an abortifacient in medical abortions. When given at higher doses it causes (among other things) the endometrial lining to breakdown at which point an already fertilized and implanted egg will detach. Another drug is then given to start uterine contractions so the women has a medically induced miscarriage.
― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:12 (fifteen years ago)
I'm very pro-choice as you probably know but I don't think you can really say that medical abortions aren't "real" abortions.
― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:13 (fifteen years ago)
yeah i don't have a problem calling what RU-486 causes an abortion
― Hans-Jörg Butt (harbl), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:14 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah I mean, I don't even really see how there is room for debate here. If a confirmed pregnant woman elects terminate a pregnancy by medical abortion rather than surgery that's still an abortion.
― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:17 (fifteen years ago)
err should have read elects "to" terminate
― o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:18 (fifteen years ago)
yeah sorry john youre not making any sense
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:59 (fifteen years ago)
i think maybe you are confusing ru-486 (which is not called this anymore, it is called mifeprex and terminates or "aborts" a confirmed pregnancy) with the morning after pill?
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:00 (fifteen years ago)
also, medically, a miscarriage is an abortion. it is called a spontaneous abortion. a surgical abortion is a therapeutic abortion, and an abortion via mifeprex is a medical or nonsurgical abortion (ime)
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:02 (fifteen years ago)
yeah you guys're right, I'm just leery of describing the preventing of implantation as "abortion"
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:07 (fifteen years ago)
it doesnt prevent implantation john
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:08 (fifteen years ago)
sorry to call you by your real name, shit is not heated
― roxymuzak, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:09 (fifteen years ago)
implantation occurs with 72 hours. mifeprex can be used up to 7 weeks of pregnancy