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this can be a rolling thread, maybe. forgive me if one already exists, i didn't see it.

i started taking guitar lessons again! that is exciting

my long term black/doom metal band (argentinum astrum) recorded an album last fall and we're waiting on a label dude to get another label to go in on releasing it? i have no idea how or what that is about. i want it to come out soon because we haven't put anything out in a couple years and i want to tour and am antsy about it.

im learning ableton in order to start doing electronic stuff by myself. that's kind of on the backburner atm tho

one of my fave local bands atm asked me to replace their bassist/harmony singer and i am probably gonna do it. it is kind of superchunk-esque?

i started a band with 2 of my girlfriends and we just had our first practice. guitar, bass and drums. playing kind of 60s-esque poppy tunes so far, but i have no idea where we will end up. i think we are gonna be called "high school"?? please tell me if that is a ridiculous name.

i recorded this local band called Killer Whale who play very crazy surf-influenced punk/metal, i love them and i am excited to record bands and put out records and things tho god it is so expensive to do this

i've been playing in this band with a weirdo that plays only covers of local, small time musicians. i just joined it, but it's kind of a local institution, been around a while with a rotating cast of ppl around this one guy. i don't know. it's fun to play with him , and very fun to choose and learn the songs, but he has a weird value system w/r/t music, ie he doesn't want me to sing harmonies cause i sing "like an angel", which isn't really true. he also has no ambitions (how can you be ambitious with a covers band really tho) and is really skeptical of people who have them. its fun tho.

i dont really have time to do any of this stuff

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:04 (nine years ago) link

this band with a weirdo that plays only covers of local, small time musicians

haha i love this

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:17 (nine years ago) link

haha its exactly what it sounds like

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:18 (nine years ago) link

the first person I contacted about guitar lessons is too busy to take me on as a student but promised to give me contact info for other ppl, which basically means I am back at square one re: finding a guitar teacher

I am currently in the process of tracking down sheet music for a recital of solo and ensemble spiritual arrangements I'm doing as part of a quartet made up of ppl from my church choir (inc. my wife as the soprano) for the Tuesday before Easter; we're also going to take parts of that recital to do as music for the Good Friday service later that week.

I'm also looking over the Dvorak Mass in D major, which I'm doing at an evening Good Friday service in Dorchester; my primary responsibility AFAIK is augmenting the bass section but I believe I'm also going to be doing the tiny solo parts as well. (The other ppl from that include my wife again plus other folks from the spiritual ensemble we sing in.)

Also have a concert with the church choir coming up where we're doing Stainer's Crucifixion; I am not the bass soloist for it (thank God).

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:42 (nine years ago) link

i didnt realize you were a bass! it occurs to me that i have never actually heard you sing. i imagined you having a very high tenor voice. haw.

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:43 (nine years ago) link

i started a band with 2 of my girlfriends

Me too! We are called Ta1nted Pussy and have played 2 shows so far. We were supposed to have a show next Saturday opening for this weird Dutch guy, but he got detained by the Dutch government and told he can't leave the country without a work permit, so that show was cancelled. I play bass. I have not played bass since I was a teenager. So now I get to have fun learning/re-learning an instrument, plus I get to have fun with pedals. We are all noise/new music ladies, thus lots of fun with pedals. I got a Dr. Sample 202 for christmas! More fun! I kept one of the built-in samples, which is a lady saying "Stand By" for when we have technical difficulties during our sets.

We are planning to tour at some point later this year. L.A., maybe the South?

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:53 (nine years ago) link

next month we have a gig opening for Cock E.S.P.

Our singer said, "Why do we always end up on shows with other bands with dirty names?"

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:54 (nine years ago) link

having trouble finding time/motivation/energy to do anything too focused or serious over the past couple of years. i was playing with my friend who's a full-time musician but he decided to just play shows solo instead of with a band because the economics/logistics are easier that way. i've been doing some sample-based stuff on reason recently, i like it because it takes me back to when i was learning guitar and didn't know what i was doing and would come up with cool stuff by accident. also occasionally jamming/recording with the drummer from my old band, doing shitty lofi four-track stuff.

i would really like to have a more regular band where someone else bore the heavy lifting of the songwriting and i could just come in and play guitar and play shows a few times a year. but i'm not really connected to any kind of music scene anymore so i don't know how to find that kind of situation.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:56 (nine years ago) link

Band practice tonight. Eagerly anticipating our two track demo bak from being mixed/mastered although worried it might sound bad as we only spent two days on it.
Working on writing and practising our next batch of songs after an initial 6. It's now a concern that we have a 'sound' and aesthetic developing, meaning that we have songs we wrote and quite like that for one reason or another don't work very well alongside the others. Anyone had this problem? It didn't really matter before because we were still forming an identity which eventually formed into 6 upbeat slightly unhinged post punk numbers, but now this next one is a big dramatic sweeping thing with a more serious tone and we're not sure what to do with it.
Also written a reggae song, which I'm please with but need a way to subvert because right now it's verging a little too close to sixth form peace and love bob Marley cliches and I want to put a twist on all that really.
Wrote a sort of fast kinda sung-rap song but my girlfriend said it sounded like flight of the conchords. Not that that's an insult, but I wanted it to aoud more like Haim or something.

dog latin, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:02 (nine years ago) link

i didnt realize you were a bass! it occurs to me that i have never actually heard you sing. i imagined you having a very high tenor voice. haw.

haha that would make my dad very, very happy (he's a failed tenor in a previous life, sang lead in a doo-wop group in college)

I am technically a "bass-baritone" which really means that because most of my singing experience comes from being in ensembles rather than private, focused vocal study, I have no idea how to use my head voice and sing practically everything in chest; I have a sneaking suspicion I would end up being a true baritone or even a low tenor after several years of focused, serious voice training based on how my low range actually sounds, but the flip side is that I can actually croak out low notes even if they're inaudible unless I've been binge-drinking the night before so I dunno. But yeah, I've always sung low.

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:17 (nine years ago) link

(which is actually why, in my teens, I realized I was never going to be a pop or rock singer, and why I was so taken by the grunge explosion)

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:18 (nine years ago) link

putting the last touches on my new record (doesn't feel new, been working on it for about 15 months now) to send to mastering next week, figuring out how to put it out.

then i want to take some time to switch up my process, shake things up a little. work on some new synth sounds without any goals, try to finally learn ableton, record a bunch of new percussion samples. i want to take some piano lessons too, since i do everything with midi + mouse. i can figure stuff out on piano very sloooowly, so i thought it would be fun to play through some tunes in real time and get some chords under my fingers.

honestly though i probably won't do most of these things and i'll go back to what feels easy & comfortable. :/

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:51 (nine years ago) link

I just got our first track back from the studio. I love it and I also cringe a bit because I can hear bits where my voice goes a bit wrong or a beat doesn't quite land how it's meant, and I'm trying to work out if anyone in their right mind would really notice or care.

dog latin, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:57 (nine years ago) link

roxy high school is an amazing band name

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:58 (nine years ago) link

this is a neat thread idea.

i've been playing with a couple guys for the last month or so but it's just working out that well. they seem like they really want to sound like real estate or something, which isn't terrible, but a bad real estate impersonation comes out sounding reaaaaally bad, and it's not much fun to play drums to, either!

i've been writing and recording some new tunes, which doesn't sound like much but it's actually been a big breakthrough for me after about a 10 year songwriting/music coma that i didn't realize was a coma.

i'm moving back to chicago in a few months and i'm determined to join up with a good band. i used to be good friends with the cave/bitchin bajas scene so i'm hoping i can be looped back into all that stuff and that someone needs a good drummer

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:05 (nine years ago) link

and yeah, high school is good, although i have to say i liked it even more when i thought the name was high school??

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:05 (nine years ago) link


flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:08 (nine years ago) link

whoa z s do you want to be in a band with me?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:10 (nine years ago) link

this is going to be really awkward when you reject me

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:10 (nine years ago) link

well, that was easy. sure, let's play!

it's gonna be more like september or so

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:12 (nine years ago) link

i think we are gonna be called "high school"??
I started a band in college called junior high university. I recorded one song for it and we had two practices and then everyone split up in different directions. that was the last band I was ever in.

have not touched my recording computer since my son was born. I long for a classical acoustic guitar so i can play around the house but I have no money for that now. debating selling an amp or two. I think my creative well has run dry for the foreseeable future.

we're beautiful like robots in dis guys (m bison), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:19 (nine years ago) link

i'm really burnt out on school this semester & have been slacking off to spend more time doing music stuff. all three bands i'm in are pretty active rn which can be overwhelming at times but is really fun. most notably i went on tour in january and started a new band called l0ud s3x which i am just so, so stoked on. the other songwriter in the band is really prolific and i really want to keep our ratio of songs 1:1. it's been a really fun challenge trying to keep up, he also writes amazing songs so i've had to be really strict about scrapping my tunes if they're not up to par. we're playing our first show at the end of the month & i'm pretty nervous because not everyone shows up for practice consistently and i want it to be spectacular

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:21 (nine years ago) link

sp3ctacular l0ud s3x

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:25 (nine years ago) link

I am not going to go into any more detail than this but the biggest audition opportunity of my lap literally just fell into my lap; I fully expect it to go nowhere but still, you never know...

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:28 (nine years ago) link

would watch n/a z s band

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:29 (nine years ago) link

DJP on x factor, it's America has been waiting for

we're beautiful like robots in dis guys (m bison), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:29 (nine years ago) link

l0ud high school s3x

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:32 (nine years ago) link

the biggest audition opportunity of my lap

lol dan

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:33 (nine years ago) link

oh no, I've said too much

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:34 (nine years ago) link

I am in month 15 of releasing a home-made recording every month. A lot of times I put it off until the month is almost over and then go into crunch mode. But at this point, even though I approach each song as its own thing and wasn't trying to make an album or anything, I can listen to all the tracks straight through and it sounds really cohesive to me, which I think is really cool. I also feel like I get a little better/more efficient at production each time.

I haven't performed onstage in like a year though, which was a conscious decision and I don't miss all of the bullshit that made me sick of doing it, but I do miss being onstage. But I maybe just joined a band that I actually think is really good and is kind of successful locally, which is cool because I don't feel that way about hardly any local bands and also I've never really been in someone else's band. They have kind of a Modern Lovers/Beat Happening/Magnetic Fields/Morrissey vibe. It'll also be neat because I'll be playing synth and I'm not actually a keyboard player at all, I'm a guitarist and songwriter, but that's also why I'll be a good fit for this.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:33 (nine years ago) link

kicking off recording of a new album. finally a chance to properly use all this new synth gear

the history of mom's apple pie (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:49 (nine years ago) link

Hey all - could I get a little bit of constructive feedback on this please? We've had an initial "how's this?" from the studio engineer on one of our tracks. Overall, I think it's okay but it's very difficult to distance myself and listen to it with uninvolved ears.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts, particularly on the mixing/production (we can't really go back into the studio to do any overdubs or retakes so we're working with the raw material we have, for better or worse). Are there any glaring errors on this track or things I should mention before I get back to him? One thing I noticed is that he's been a bit heavy handed witht he gating and compression, particularly some of the vocal parts where the sibilants and plosives are almost non-existent.

I'm only gonna keep this track online for a short while, but if someone could give it a listen and let me know their thoughts, i'd be very much obliged: https://soundcloud.com/doglatin/honolulu-demo-050313

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 11:36 (nine years ago) link

god this sounds like a super harsh thing but i dont mean it that way - do you want/intend the beginning to sound like a 80's nylons style acapella group thing? like exactly like one? because thats what i hear. also some pitchy weirdness in the "so afraid" "yesterday" multivoice responses. again, if these are intentional things, no prob.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:49 (nine years ago) link

Lol, I haven't hear the nylons but it is supposed to be a bit of a tongue in cheek doowop thing and if it comes across that way I guess that's intentional. The song is very much a comment on retro culture and so it's littered with 60s and 80s references. Cheers for checking it out jjjusten, I'll look into the autotune thing. Think the sound guy's gone a bit overboard with vocal manipulation, but then we're not at all trained singers so there's undoubtably gonna be a push/pull thing going on.

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:29 (nine years ago) link

song sounds good to me, esp. for a demo. i like it.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:30 (nine years ago) link

Xpost If you're talkin about Housemartins/Flying Pickets, I def see what you mean and kind of don't mind. I (was made to) grow up with that shit, haha.

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:31 (nine years ago) link

Cheers n/a

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:32 (nine years ago) link

I am making a lil album of songs that are about a min long each, I have about 10 so far where the music is done but I have finished singing over one of them, I've come up w/ vocal melodies for about 3

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:47 (nine years ago) link

I am seriously using the dumbest most unwieldy out of date programs to put the songs together because for whatever reason I like how it all sounds more than if I do it in ableton?

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:54 (nine years ago) link

what are you using?

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:13 (nine years ago) link

I (lol) am using cues in virtual dj to play my laptop like an mpc or w/e (I could slice to a drumkit in ableton and do the same thing I guess, but idk, when I use ableton I spend 3 extra hours on shit) and then editing shit further and recording vocals in audacity, its a forehead in my hands deal, but still

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:22 (nine years ago) link

i love stuff like that.

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:28 (nine years ago) link

well I hope it lives up to its rudimentary description, I'm starting to embrace it, at least this way I don't end up fucking around with corpus for a week with no results

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:35 (nine years ago) link

Good sounding demo, dog latin. I'd get some friends in a room for the backing vocals. And as for your solo performance it's a little too measured, just make sure you're saying "gate" instead of "gay" and make it fast and effortless

I was just in Prague recording with a budget-priced orchestra, stuff for five different clients and some stuff for my own use. There were 30 "pieces" ranging from 45-second long bits of orchestral incidental music to 20-minute marathon workouts. A total of 2.5 hours of music and 24 hours to record the whole thing. I def. got paranoid and overworked but I didn't break. I drove that bus.

It went very well but I instinctively prioritized the work of my clients, taking the time to really get something beautiful out of that shaky orchestra. I left not enough time for my own material. Now I'm futzing.

cheers FGTI - I did the lead vox, the others did backing. I think the engineer's but too strong a release on my vox because yeah, "gaze" sounds like "gay" etc...

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:42 (nine years ago) link

i'm listening to spotify

markers, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:42 (nine years ago) link

gotta get these tapes out soon (for this band i recorded) but have no idea what im doing! i need to buy a tape duplicator! i need to buy...tapes! i need to figure out how to get this shit onto a master tape! what am i doing with my life! HELP!

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 00:58 (nine years ago) link

i told my mom i was in a new band called high school and she recommended that we call it COOL GIRLS instead. additionally, "i like just a girl's name, like maureen, or mabel, for a girl band"

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:01 (nine years ago) link

lmao at cool girls altho tbh i would like it as a name for a coed or all dude band

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:01 (nine years ago) link


i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 20:15 (three months ago) link

Ha not your fault, this has been going on for weeks

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 20:48 (three months ago) link

-I got up to 82 bpm in my practice routine and hit the inevitable wall that exposed all the flaws in my technique, which is great. Now I've made some improvements and I'm taking the tempo way down, until it hopefully feels super relaxed and consistent.

-I started a label! Even though my interest in promoting music is at an all-time low. But it's been germinating for months, and I'll be much more excited to release and promote other people's music starting with the second release.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:45 (three months ago) link

Link didn't work https://limitedresourceslabel.bandcamp.com/releases

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:55 (three months ago) link

hit the inevitable wall that exposed all the flaws in my technique

fucking love it

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:56 (three months ago) link

related: been learning a lot of songs by playing them at .75 speed on youtube

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:57 (three months ago) link

Way to avoid dealing with the ASD! Is there a looping function as well?

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 1 September 2022 22:28 (three months ago) link

Brad, my latest revelation on this topic is that it's not about developing speed or endurance really, instead I've gone back to purely focusing on the stroke for my weak hand. If I can get a full stroke (ie where you're letting the stick bounce back up to full height) that's controlled, integrates both the wrist and middle/third/pinky fingers in the same circular-feeling motion, and free of any unnecessary tension, then the speed is just there if you need it.

It sounds like "duh" to say it, but my hand wasn't getting the message. Basically I'm finally getting that sensation where it feels like you're bouncing a ball.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:43 (three months ago) link

when i'm playing punk songs slowed down by .75 it really refocuses me on obtaining an evenness (and relaxedness) in my stroke and trying to fight against how much my hand/arm/entire body is tensing up when i'm playing fast, so: yes, otm

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:48 (three months ago) link

the ball bouncing analogy is good and one i haven't heard before. man it's just dribbling

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:49 (three months ago) link

Yes, great discussion all around.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:54 (three months ago) link

man it's just dribbling

It really is! I'd often heard it described this way, but if your stroke is fucked up, then the dribbling effect doesn't happen and you need to figure out how to force it in order to play. Which leads to limits on what you can play, pain, etc.

Not saying I've mastered it all of a sudden, but the physical feeling of it was immediately exciting, like "ohhh, this is what they were talking about."

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2022 17:05 (three months ago) link

You start watching Art Blakey, Kenny Clarke, Joe Morello or Buddy Rich videos on the tube and it is just freaking voodoo how those guys seem to have infinite speed out of that match gripped snare hand.

earlnash, Sunday, 4 September 2022 20:19 (two months ago) link

Drums are the instrument I've let slide the most over the years to the point where I just can't play anymore, but this thread has inspired me to crack open my Buddy Rich rudiments book, get a metronome app, and start doing a bit of work on my practice pad.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 4 September 2022 23:20 (two months ago) link

That's great!

It's always 1 step back, 2 steps forward with this technique stuff. One thing will click into place and reveal what else isn't working properly, like I realized I wasn't letting the stick move enough within my grip, I needed to allow it to have more of a vertical angle. Hard to explain but I was missing out on a bunch of kinetic energy, and things are feeling holistically much better now.

Had a nice day yesterday mixing down a new dance music single, and going over to the practice pad whenever files were rendering.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:57 (two months ago) link

It's always 1 step back, 2 steps forward
This seems to be the rule with everything, any kind of real learning. The trick or challenge is find to the, um, zone where one is pushing forward but not so much that one is overwhelmed and can't remember anything.

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:30 (two months ago) link

my main problem is taking 2 steps backward and one step sideways, first as a mistake and then as the only familiar way that i can use the stairs of life

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:32 (two months ago) link

I believe our old pal Momus has something to say about this last:

When Harpo Played His ARP (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:35 (two months ago) link

here's a fun little tune built from minibrute, modular, pigments, roland tr-8s and more


Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 September 2022 13:19 (two months ago) link

happy house techno. nice one!

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:20 (two months ago) link

thanks! is major key techno even a thing? I was a bit stumped what to call it

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:26 (two months ago) link

happy not-so-hardcore

slow gabber

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:30 (two months ago) link

lol, sounds about right, happy mildcore

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 9 September 2022 20:32 (two months ago) link

Latest weak-hand technique breakthrough is that I got bogged down focusing on the minutiae of the hand itself, I started concentrating on keeping the tip of the stick at the same (high) point even as I speed up, and all of a sudden that gave me the hand motion I've been after. Still haven't crossed the 82 bpm barrier (ie 16ths for a minute), but doing 8s and 16s on a hand feels relaxed and proper.

I was talking to a jazz bassist in town who felt similarly about not being a 'natural' and still trying to figure out things that others had together in high school, and he's one of the first-call bass players in town and is on plenty of recordings, so that was reassuring.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 12 September 2022 20:48 (two months ago) link

Can't remember if I've mentioned this before, but my mate created a drum practice app called Beat Balance - there's a free version and a subscription version, would be interested to see if you drummers over here found it useful.

Intending to check out your label stuff soon, Jordan - I loved that Chants album from last year and I also love "freedom through limitation" projects.

emil.y, Monday, 12 September 2022 21:15 (two months ago) link

Aw thanks Emily. <3 Looking forward to getting other people's records out on the label, next month there's a classical guitar + breakbeats album that I'm excited about.

That app looks insane, I will check it out.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 12 September 2022 22:01 (two months ago) link

New practice routine: practice 8th notes to LCD Soundsystem's 45:33. Now that my stroke is finally feeling good, this is great for locking it in and building endurance while staying relaxed and keeping me honest with slower tempos (113 - 135).

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 September 2022 19:43 (two months ago) link

Practice diary: a work trip brought the revelation that practicing with a *mirror* is exactly what I needed. It's insane how different your hand & stroke look from above than from the front, and a mirror will tell no lies about the differences between your hands. Can't believe what a massive effect it's had in a couple days (just in time to play some serious snare drum at a brass band festival in Asheville).

Also expecting to get the masters back on a dance single that a label is putting out. I think it has the most of my own drumming of anything so far, which is satisfying.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 23 September 2022 13:09 (two months ago) link

I recently upload this to the IA along with a lot of other stuff https://archive.org/details/organic-beats-mike-hanley

| (Latham Green), Friday, 23 September 2022 19:56 (two months ago) link

I ordered a Korg Opsix during that big sale. Came out of the box with a dead screen (was pretty common in this batch). Finally got it back from the shop (fixed under warranty).

this thing is cool to play with, but i'm having trouble getting sounds that are actually usable not just wacky knob twisting, so many different parameters i don't understand.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 October 2022 18:44 (one month ago) link

Cool! Let me know when you eventually decide to sell it! ;)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 October 2022 18:46 (one month ago) link

Haha will do

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 October 2022 19:25 (one month ago) link

How beginner are you with synths? Envelopes are the most important thing to understand when starting IMO

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2022 23:59 (one month ago) link

Pretty beginner, I have synths but only really used the presets

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 7 October 2022 15:56 (one month ago) link

lets hear some blues on those synths

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:37 (one month ago) link

FM synthesis is a whole other thing though, you can't follow the normal subtractive process of oscillators etc.

I like the black box nature of FM (unless you really know what you're doing obv), just messing with operators until it sounds cool. That's why the hands-on aspect of the Op Six seems very appealing.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 8 October 2022 17:01 (one month ago) link

Oh right sorry I forgot the op six was their fm synth. I was thinking of the poly six

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 9 October 2022 02:17 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

this is what I've done so far this year


| (Latham Green), Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:22 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Worked really hard on transcribing this little Tony Rice intro and felt like I really had a breakthrough in terms of speed, fluidity, articulation, etc. Really enjoying this process


longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 13 November 2022 02:53 (two weeks ago) link

So nice!

Tib, Sunday, 13 November 2022 14:18 (two weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

what do you do for listener fatigue for something you're working on? i have to keep listening to these recordings bc i want to finish them but also i feel brainfried by them and like i hear something new that needs adjusting every time i listen. i know the answer is "take a break from the songs and come back with fresh ears," and i did take a break over the thanksgiving week but even just the past few days of getting back into work on them has me feeling burnt out again. usually i'm pretty happy just to get something "good enough" and move on, i don't know why i'm feeling the pressure this time.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:23 (four days ago) link

i kind of want an outside opinion (not on the songwriting but someone to tell me "hey the vocals are too loud here" or "this bit sounds weird") but i'm not sure who i would ask for that and i feel intimidated by bringing in an outsider. my bandmates are too nice about everything since i'm doing all the recording/mixing/arranging, i don't think they want to give me that kind of feedback.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:27 (four days ago) link

ugh, remember that feeling. I do feel like an outsider is best, but it has to be someone you really trust.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:30 (four days ago) link

can you reference it against a track you like that has a similar sound and arrangement?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:38 (four days ago) link

that's not a bad idea. i've seen that as advice a lot but i don't know that i've ever tried doing it.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:53 (four days ago) link

I don't do it enough either, but when I have it's been extremely helpful for general balance (ie is the bass present enough or too overpowering, is the kick drum coming through, is the vocal loud enough or too loud).

Also my favorite bit of mix advice is that all good mixes have one element that's "too loud" (or else they're just boring).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:56 (four days ago) link

yeah it's taken me a while to figure out that "you can hear everything equally well" isn't necessarily the same thing as "a good mix"

i know i'm the one complaining, but i think something else that has helped was going back and listening to older stuff i recorded and mixed to remind myself of my personal mixing pitfalls to avoid. eg i tend to mix vocals too low and the bass too loud, so i'm making myself mix the bass a hair quieter than i think it should be and the vocals a hair louder than i think they should be.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:08 (four days ago) link

Isn't it wild how loud the vocals are on most big pop records? Vocals and drums extremely high in the mix, everything else much lower.

I'm also guilty of wanting everything at the same level in a mix, which isn't really a mix (unless the arrangement is extremely minimal). If I find myself burying something in the mix, I usually just take it out entirely.

I think this comes from listening to New Orleans brass band records so much, where I really do believe that each element is as important as the others.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:19 (four days ago) link

If I end up liking too many parts (which I usually do) I will wiggle the volume envelopes so that they come into and out of prominence at different places.

I am notorious for never quite thinking there are enough different guitar parts, and the result can get mushy. Like, there's an acoustic all the way through, plus an arpeggiated electric, plus a power-chord electric. They can't all star at once, so I try to give each one a chance to step out a bit and then go back into the general mush.

I used to also do a lot of panning trickery - one ear would have a strummed steel-string and the other ear would get fingerstyle nylon. Then have them ever so gradually switch ears, so that now they're on opposite sides.

Godley and Creamsicle (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:53 (four days ago) link

I used to do more of that stuff too, but it started to sound distracting and 'fake' to me, I'd much rather have as few instruments as possible with each one able to take up more room.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 18:40 (four days ago) link

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