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this can be a rolling thread, maybe. forgive me if one already exists, i didn't see it.

i started taking guitar lessons again! that is exciting

my long term black/doom metal band (argentinum astrum) recorded an album last fall and we're waiting on a label dude to get another label to go in on releasing it? i have no idea how or what that is about. i want it to come out soon because we haven't put anything out in a couple years and i want to tour and am antsy about it.

im learning ableton in order to start doing electronic stuff by myself. that's kind of on the backburner atm tho

one of my fave local bands atm asked me to replace their bassist/harmony singer and i am probably gonna do it. it is kind of superchunk-esque?

i started a band with 2 of my girlfriends and we just had our first practice. guitar, bass and drums. playing kind of 60s-esque poppy tunes so far, but i have no idea where we will end up. i think we are gonna be called "high school"?? please tell me if that is a ridiculous name.

i recorded this local band called Killer Whale who play very crazy surf-influenced punk/metal, i love them and i am excited to record bands and put out records and things tho god it is so expensive to do this

i've been playing in this band with a weirdo that plays only covers of local, small time musicians. i just joined it, but it's kind of a local institution, been around a while with a rotating cast of ppl around this one guy. i don't know. it's fun to play with him , and very fun to choose and learn the songs, but he has a weird value system w/r/t music, ie he doesn't want me to sing harmonies cause i sing "like an angel", which isn't really true. he also has no ambitions (how can you be ambitious with a covers band really tho) and is really skeptical of people who have them. its fun tho.

i dont really have time to do any of this stuff

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:04 (seven years ago) link

this band with a weirdo that plays only covers of local, small time musicians

haha i love this

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:17 (seven years ago) link

haha its exactly what it sounds like

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:18 (seven years ago) link

the first person I contacted about guitar lessons is too busy to take me on as a student but promised to give me contact info for other ppl, which basically means I am back at square one re: finding a guitar teacher

I am currently in the process of tracking down sheet music for a recital of solo and ensemble spiritual arrangements I'm doing as part of a quartet made up of ppl from my church choir (inc. my wife as the soprano) for the Tuesday before Easter; we're also going to take parts of that recital to do as music for the Good Friday service later that week.

I'm also looking over the Dvorak Mass in D major, which I'm doing at an evening Good Friday service in Dorchester; my primary responsibility AFAIK is augmenting the bass section but I believe I'm also going to be doing the tiny solo parts as well. (The other ppl from that include my wife again plus other folks from the spiritual ensemble we sing in.)

Also have a concert with the church choir coming up where we're doing Stainer's Crucifixion; I am not the bass soloist for it (thank God).

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:42 (seven years ago) link

i didnt realize you were a bass! it occurs to me that i have never actually heard you sing. i imagined you having a very high tenor voice. haw.

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:43 (seven years ago) link

i started a band with 2 of my girlfriends

Me too! We are called Ta1nted Pussy and have played 2 shows so far. We were supposed to have a show next Saturday opening for this weird Dutch guy, but he got detained by the Dutch government and told he can't leave the country without a work permit, so that show was cancelled. I play bass. I have not played bass since I was a teenager. So now I get to have fun learning/re-learning an instrument, plus I get to have fun with pedals. We are all noise/new music ladies, thus lots of fun with pedals. I got a Dr. Sample 202 for christmas! More fun! I kept one of the built-in samples, which is a lady saying "Stand By" for when we have technical difficulties during our sets.

We are planning to tour at some point later this year. L.A., maybe the South?

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:53 (seven years ago) link

next month we have a gig opening for Cock E.S.P.

Our singer said, "Why do we always end up on shows with other bands with dirty names?"

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:54 (seven years ago) link

having trouble finding time/motivation/energy to do anything too focused or serious over the past couple of years. i was playing with my friend who's a full-time musician but he decided to just play shows solo instead of with a band because the economics/logistics are easier that way. i've been doing some sample-based stuff on reason recently, i like it because it takes me back to when i was learning guitar and didn't know what i was doing and would come up with cool stuff by accident. also occasionally jamming/recording with the drummer from my old band, doing shitty lofi four-track stuff.

i would really like to have a more regular band where someone else bore the heavy lifting of the songwriting and i could just come in and play guitar and play shows a few times a year. but i'm not really connected to any kind of music scene anymore so i don't know how to find that kind of situation.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Band practice tonight. Eagerly anticipating our two track demo bak from being mixed/mastered although worried it might sound bad as we only spent two days on it.
Working on writing and practising our next batch of songs after an initial 6. It's now a concern that we have a 'sound' and aesthetic developing, meaning that we have songs we wrote and quite like that for one reason or another don't work very well alongside the others. Anyone had this problem? It didn't really matter before because we were still forming an identity which eventually formed into 6 upbeat slightly unhinged post punk numbers, but now this next one is a big dramatic sweeping thing with a more serious tone and we're not sure what to do with it.
Also written a reggae song, which I'm please with but need a way to subvert because right now it's verging a little too close to sixth form peace and love bob Marley cliches and I want to put a twist on all that really.
Wrote a sort of fast kinda sung-rap song but my girlfriend said it sounded like flight of the conchords. Not that that's an insult, but I wanted it to aoud more like Haim or something.

dog latin, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:02 (seven years ago) link

i didnt realize you were a bass! it occurs to me that i have never actually heard you sing. i imagined you having a very high tenor voice. haw.

haha that would make my dad very, very happy (he's a failed tenor in a previous life, sang lead in a doo-wop group in college)

I am technically a "bass-baritone" which really means that because most of my singing experience comes from being in ensembles rather than private, focused vocal study, I have no idea how to use my head voice and sing practically everything in chest; I have a sneaking suspicion I would end up being a true baritone or even a low tenor after several years of focused, serious voice training based on how my low range actually sounds, but the flip side is that I can actually croak out low notes even if they're inaudible unless I've been binge-drinking the night before so I dunno. But yeah, I've always sung low.

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:17 (seven years ago) link

(which is actually why, in my teens, I realized I was never going to be a pop or rock singer, and why I was so taken by the grunge explosion)

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:18 (seven years ago) link

putting the last touches on my new record (doesn't feel new, been working on it for about 15 months now) to send to mastering next week, figuring out how to put it out.

then i want to take some time to switch up my process, shake things up a little. work on some new synth sounds without any goals, try to finally learn ableton, record a bunch of new percussion samples. i want to take some piano lessons too, since i do everything with midi + mouse. i can figure stuff out on piano very sloooowly, so i thought it would be fun to play through some tunes in real time and get some chords under my fingers.

honestly though i probably won't do most of these things and i'll go back to what feels easy & comfortable. :/

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:51 (seven years ago) link

I just got our first track back from the studio. I love it and I also cringe a bit because I can hear bits where my voice goes a bit wrong or a beat doesn't quite land how it's meant, and I'm trying to work out if anyone in their right mind would really notice or care.

dog latin, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:57 (seven years ago) link

roxy high school is an amazing band name

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:58 (seven years ago) link

this is a neat thread idea.

i've been playing with a couple guys for the last month or so but it's just working out that well. they seem like they really want to sound like real estate or something, which isn't terrible, but a bad real estate impersonation comes out sounding reaaaaally bad, and it's not much fun to play drums to, either!

i've been writing and recording some new tunes, which doesn't sound like much but it's actually been a big breakthrough for me after about a 10 year songwriting/music coma that i didn't realize was a coma.

i'm moving back to chicago in a few months and i'm determined to join up with a good band. i used to be good friends with the cave/bitchin bajas scene so i'm hoping i can be looped back into all that stuff and that someone needs a good drummer

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:05 (seven years ago) link

and yeah, high school is good, although i have to say i liked it even more when i thought the name was high school??

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:05 (seven years ago) link


flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:08 (seven years ago) link

whoa z s do you want to be in a band with me?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:10 (seven years ago) link

this is going to be really awkward when you reject me

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:10 (seven years ago) link

well, that was easy. sure, let's play!

it's gonna be more like september or so

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:12 (seven years ago) link

i think we are gonna be called "high school"??
I started a band in college called junior high university. I recorded one song for it and we had two practices and then everyone split up in different directions. that was the last band I was ever in.

have not touched my recording computer since my son was born. I long for a classical acoustic guitar so i can play around the house but I have no money for that now. debating selling an amp or two. I think my creative well has run dry for the foreseeable future.

we're beautiful like robots in dis guys (m bison), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:19 (seven years ago) link

i'm really burnt out on school this semester & have been slacking off to spend more time doing music stuff. all three bands i'm in are pretty active rn which can be overwhelming at times but is really fun. most notably i went on tour in january and started a new band called l0ud s3x which i am just so, so stoked on. the other songwriter in the band is really prolific and i really want to keep our ratio of songs 1:1. it's been a really fun challenge trying to keep up, he also writes amazing songs so i've had to be really strict about scrapping my tunes if they're not up to par. we're playing our first show at the end of the month & i'm pretty nervous because not everyone shows up for practice consistently and i want it to be spectacular

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:21 (seven years ago) link

sp3ctacular l0ud s3x

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:25 (seven years ago) link

I am not going to go into any more detail than this but the biggest audition opportunity of my lap literally just fell into my lap; I fully expect it to go nowhere but still, you never know...

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:28 (seven years ago) link

would watch n/a z s band

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:29 (seven years ago) link

DJP on x factor, it's America has been waiting for

we're beautiful like robots in dis guys (m bison), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:29 (seven years ago) link

l0ud high school s3x

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:32 (seven years ago) link

the biggest audition opportunity of my lap

lol dan

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:33 (seven years ago) link

oh no, I've said too much

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:34 (seven years ago) link

I am in month 15 of releasing a home-made recording every month. A lot of times I put it off until the month is almost over and then go into crunch mode. But at this point, even though I approach each song as its own thing and wasn't trying to make an album or anything, I can listen to all the tracks straight through and it sounds really cohesive to me, which I think is really cool. I also feel like I get a little better/more efficient at production each time.

I haven't performed onstage in like a year though, which was a conscious decision and I don't miss all of the bullshit that made me sick of doing it, but I do miss being onstage. But I maybe just joined a band that I actually think is really good and is kind of successful locally, which is cool because I don't feel that way about hardly any local bands and also I've never really been in someone else's band. They have kind of a Modern Lovers/Beat Happening/Magnetic Fields/Morrissey vibe. It'll also be neat because I'll be playing synth and I'm not actually a keyboard player at all, I'm a guitarist and songwriter, but that's also why I'll be a good fit for this.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:33 (seven years ago) link

kicking off recording of a new album. finally a chance to properly use all this new synth gear

the history of mom's apple pie (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:49 (seven years ago) link

Hey all - could I get a little bit of constructive feedback on this please? We've had an initial "how's this?" from the studio engineer on one of our tracks. Overall, I think it's okay but it's very difficult to distance myself and listen to it with uninvolved ears.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts, particularly on the mixing/production (we can't really go back into the studio to do any overdubs or retakes so we're working with the raw material we have, for better or worse). Are there any glaring errors on this track or things I should mention before I get back to him? One thing I noticed is that he's been a bit heavy handed witht he gating and compression, particularly some of the vocal parts where the sibilants and plosives are almost non-existent.

I'm only gonna keep this track online for a short while, but if someone could give it a listen and let me know their thoughts, i'd be very much obliged: https://soundcloud.com/doglatin/honolulu-demo-050313

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 11:36 (seven years ago) link

god this sounds like a super harsh thing but i dont mean it that way - do you want/intend the beginning to sound like a 80's nylons style acapella group thing? like exactly like one? because thats what i hear. also some pitchy weirdness in the "so afraid" "yesterday" multivoice responses. again, if these are intentional things, no prob.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:49 (seven years ago) link

Lol, I haven't hear the nylons but it is supposed to be a bit of a tongue in cheek doowop thing and if it comes across that way I guess that's intentional. The song is very much a comment on retro culture and so it's littered with 60s and 80s references. Cheers for checking it out jjjusten, I'll look into the autotune thing. Think the sound guy's gone a bit overboard with vocal manipulation, but then we're not at all trained singers so there's undoubtably gonna be a push/pull thing going on.

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:29 (seven years ago) link

song sounds good to me, esp. for a demo. i like it.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Xpost If you're talkin about Housemartins/Flying Pickets, I def see what you mean and kind of don't mind. I (was made to) grow up with that shit, haha.

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Cheers n/a

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:32 (seven years ago) link

I am making a lil album of songs that are about a min long each, I have about 10 so far where the music is done but I have finished singing over one of them, I've come up w/ vocal melodies for about 3

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:47 (seven years ago) link

I am seriously using the dumbest most unwieldy out of date programs to put the songs together because for whatever reason I like how it all sounds more than if I do it in ableton?

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:54 (seven years ago) link

what are you using?

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:13 (seven years ago) link

I (lol) am using cues in virtual dj to play my laptop like an mpc or w/e (I could slice to a drumkit in ableton and do the same thing I guess, but idk, when I use ableton I spend 3 extra hours on shit) and then editing shit further and recording vocals in audacity, its a forehead in my hands deal, but still

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:22 (seven years ago) link

i love stuff like that.

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:28 (seven years ago) link

well I hope it lives up to its rudimentary description, I'm starting to embrace it, at least this way I don't end up fucking around with corpus for a week with no results

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:35 (seven years ago) link

Good sounding demo, dog latin. I'd get some friends in a room for the backing vocals. And as for your solo performance it's a little too measured, just make sure you're saying "gate" instead of "gay" and make it fast and effortless

a) tepid b) vapid c) simpering d) milquetoast (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 19:18 (seven years ago) link

I was just in Prague recording with a budget-priced orchestra, stuff for five different clients and some stuff for my own use. There were 30 "pieces" ranging from 45-second long bits of orchestral incidental music to 20-minute marathon workouts. A total of 2.5 hours of music and 24 hours to record the whole thing. I def. got paranoid and overworked but I didn't break. I drove that bus.

It went very well but I instinctively prioritized the work of my clients, taking the time to really get something beautiful out of that shaky orchestra. I left not enough time for my own material. Now I'm futzing.

a) tepid b) vapid c) simpering d) milquetoast (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 19:22 (seven years ago) link

cheers FGTI - I did the lead vox, the others did backing. I think the engineer's but too strong a release on my vox because yeah, "gaze" sounds like "gay" etc...

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:42 (seven years ago) link

i'm listening to spotify

markers, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:42 (seven years ago) link

gotta get these tapes out soon (for this band i recorded) but have no idea what im doing! i need to buy a tape duplicator! i need to buy...tapes! i need to figure out how to get this shit onto a master tape! what am i doing with my life! HELP!

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 00:58 (seven years ago) link

i told my mom i was in a new band called high school and she recommended that we call it COOL GIRLS instead. additionally, "i like just a girl's name, like maureen, or mabel, for a girl band"

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:01 (seven years ago) link

lmao at cool girls altho tbh i would like it as a name for a coed or all dude band

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:01 (seven years ago) link

Very much so. I make songs all the time but they usually remain as unfinished loops to be rescued by some more prodigious composer. I struggle with writing lyrics and recording vocals but it’s very easy for me to tap out something interesting in four, eight, or 16 bar phrases. or somethin more unorthodoxically numbered if i’m feeling saucy

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:34 (one week ago) link

and you know you wanna get saucy

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:43 (one week ago) link

don’t tempt me or i’ll try to write lyrics to the song in 7/8 time!!!

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:53 (one week ago) link

i'm having a good coronavirus musical life! i've had a few songs i've wanted to share for a while. i got an electric guitar + amp + some pedals last Fall, 2019, so they're way more guitar-oriented than anything i've written in a while. i wrote them with with the idea of playing live in mind, and i think that simplified my playing in a good way. i've been trying to record them with some old bandmates that are semi-long distance, but it's been frustrating to try to arrange it, and it's taking forever. this coronavirus has kind of settled me on that, realizing i don't want to kick the can down the road much longer on that. i'll probably just post one on my bandcamp, only i have to come up with a new name because i don't like the one i was meaning to use the last 2 years while working on all this

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:54 (one week ago) link

xp https://i.imgur.com/iTcte1l.jpg

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:55 (one week ago) link

If you ever want to collaborate long-distance, I'd love to pitch in!

DJI, Thursday, 26 March 2020 23:31 (one week ago) link

Nice video, LL!

Sund4r, Friday, 27 March 2020 03:10 (six days ago) link

Started doing a daily four bars of tabletop percussion on instagram:

Also been doing a lot of collabs and remixes, it's clearly the time for it. Everyone's around, and it's less taxing than starting from scratch.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 27 March 2020 14:58 (six days ago) link

yeah -- my first drum project ever started because of isolation/remote collaboration and i continue to invite anyone who would like to collaborate to hmu!! this is sort of my "thing"!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:48 (six days ago) link

i will say that i enjoyed moving out of that realm A LOT and am not thrilled to be in quarantine but it's a familiar place for me. we'll get out eventually and we can play music together in the same room and it will be exhilarating on that day!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 27 March 2020 15:49 (six days ago) link

Just catching up with stuff posted, really love LL's live show and am very into the squiggly acid feel of DJI's 'Cavern'. Listening to Salt Horse now, sounds good!

emil.y, Friday, 27 March 2020 16:14 (six days ago) link

most of what i do these days is run my organ through a bunch of effects pedals and zone out on drones or dubby soundscapes. it's fun but it doesn't really feel the same as writing a song. it feels more self-indulgent. i'm not playing much guitar and if i do it's for 5-10 minutes unplugged. i've gotten rusty on playing guitar and really rusty on songwriting. mostly the part of getting over that hump of existential angst about the difficulty and pointlessness of writing a song and actually doing it. so it's all organ drones for now.

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 16:46 (six days ago) link

NA - Please record something and send it to me!! I’ll convince you it’s not self indulgent later :)

Thank you for listening emil.y <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:03 (six days ago) link


terrible photo of my current setup

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:08 (six days ago) link

i just recorded something but it already has organ percussion on it. i don't know if you want to play over that.

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:09 (six days ago) link


curious about which pedals you have!

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 17:09 (six days ago) link

my gear is set up in the corner of my daughter's bedroom and one of our cats is always sleeping in my chair

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:10 (six days ago) link

on the board - mini tube screamer, zvex mastotron, big muff op art, garage tone delay, earthquaker ghost echo, ehx canyon delay. i've got a few other things in a bin.

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:12 (six days ago) link

that was my guitar board when i was playing in a dumb band last year and i haven't swapped any of them out

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 17:15 (six days ago) link

Business mostly wiped out? Check. No space in the apartment? Check. Time to buy monitor speakers and a digital piano? Obviously.

Sund4r, Friday, 27 March 2020 18:11 (six days ago) link

I just finished arranging a really gorgeous record for a really fantastic artist. Excited to make use of solitary-time in tracking the whole thing at home.

Other than that I’m figuring out how to get music videos made remotely by similarly quarantined individuals lol

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 March 2020 18:37 (six days ago) link

actually you know what i like this organ stuff i've been doing and i shouldn't diminish it. i'll put it up somewhere soon.

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:27 (six days ago) link

That’s right!!!
Send me the next thing you record please I’ve been listening to lots of dub :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:31 (six days ago) link

(sorry to x-post with my gif thread)

alright, finally updated my bandcamp shit!


LL i might also upload the one where i recorded the drums at your house, too!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:11 (five days ago) link

the song is kind of gloomy but the bass part is bouncy motorik, so it might be a hit with small children (i assume small children love bouncy motorik?)

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:15 (five days ago) link

I am (in a very profound way) not contributing to any ilx comp cus some Canadian fuck destroyed my acoustic guitar (MY MAIN EXCUSE) also "my piano crouched in the corner of my room with all its teeth bared" also SOCIAL ISOLATION: my Ragdoll Physicist buddy can't come round and teach me how to work these machines that I own that go beep and sometimes boop and I totally had some lyrics on the go, it went "patent-trollimg the concept of isolation/ cus I took it to new levels, I deserve some compesation", there that's going for free, I'm RETIRING to my bed for the next year, til someone comes round and works these machines for me me or at least explains how to export what I made on the Korg Nintendo Switch bisnes. Cos that shit BANGS, no way to show it to the world tho...

Jonathan Hellion Mumble, Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:36 (five days ago) link

phone video of Korg Switch!

for the children

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:48 (five days ago) link


I have Gadget for iOS if you want help, but sounds like the easiest way is to just hook the headphone jack up to a sound card input.

DJI, Saturday, 28 March 2020 17:34 (five days ago) link

the two organ things i recorded this week:
the "dub" (not really dub but lots of bass and delay) track - https://soundcloud.com/user-378919876-468565288/wg1
drone track - https://soundcloud.com/user-378919876-468565288/wg2

na (NA), Saturday, 28 March 2020 20:13 (five days ago) link

wow na, i love these.

Tib, Sunday, 29 March 2020 02:39 (four days ago) link

thanks! i think i'll try and do a couple more things in this vein and then throw it all up on bandcamp

na (NA), Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:20 (four days ago) link

yeah, you should! love the little thunderstorm breakdown at around 3:00 in the dub track

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 March 2020 16:38 (four days ago) link

Pretty cool stuff. The first one sounds like FSOL a bit.

DJI, Monday, 30 March 2020 02:00 (three days ago) link

ok so sitting at my desk all day is a bit much: but on the plus side, now, along with listening to NA's organ stuff I have listened to Karl's bouncy ditty- not my thing but I do really like the painting! - and watched ll's drum thing on youtube (at least I think I did, as I don't actually know anyone here irl- but how many solo female drum things could there be in the Quarantine concerts?)- it was cool. Liked when the other instruments came in (virtually? or recorded?) and it got kind of Neu-ey. Had it on in the background while I worked, occasionally flipping to youtube to have a watch.

Tib, Monday, 30 March 2020 07:00 (three days ago) link

that was me! the other instruments were early recordings i made (with n/a and ilxor tarfumes) remotely and so i thought it was appropriate to play them for a quarantine/isolation themed series. i haven't been playing that long (7 years in June) and this was my first time ever playing for a camera/webcast type situation. (also my first time ever being broadcast doing anything, now that i think about it) i got over the fear of cameras by only having like 18 hours to prepare for this thing.

thank you for listening!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 30 March 2020 14:08 (three days ago) link

xp thanks for taking the time all the same, Tib! it's kinda funny because it's typically not really my own thing either. i feel like i listen to 99% ambient and weird instrumental jams, yet when i hit record i often end up trying to write a Beths song (the other 1% of my music listening, i guess).

creative outlets often act like emotional converters or funnels, i think, by which i mean they can focus the creators attention on emotions or moods that don't otherwise seem to be prominent. i feel like i'm often pretty lighthearted or silly irl, for example, but whenever try to sit down and invest time in writing (prose or narratively, i mean), suddenly i'm just like "the only thing i can write about is death and how to prepare for death", or whatever. the joy of life goes out the window. that's kind of a weird example, but i think a similar thing can apply to other emotions and mediums, in surprising ways. i feel so morose when i try to seriously write, and when i paint (in brief experience) i find myself feeling strangely calm and accepting. not in a new age way, but in a "i will just paint this corner of a house with shingles. i will just focus the little shadow shingles. it's enough to do just that" way, which is not at ALL how i go through my normal daily life. and with music i guess it's often a nervousness that feels more true to my inner self.

not sure where i was going with all that, but curious how others draw connections between their music and their emotions, particularly wrt different genres (e.g., when i'm focusing on writing instrumental music to accompany a video or animation i made, it comes out sounding very differently, and I *feel* very different as i'm making it, like i'm a different musician with a contradictory perspective)

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 March 2020 18:36 (three days ago) link

You know, I always wrote lyrics on personal topics, but decided in the last several years or so that I didn't want to anymore. I actually wrote a couple of sets of lyrics that were fictional, just based on some historical things that were of interest to me. And I was happy with them. More recently, I've been able to finish some things with more impressionistic lyrics. I had tried that before, but never succeeded.

timellison, Monday, 30 March 2020 20:34 (three days ago) link

i think of my musical voice as a voice i can use to express whatever i want -- it changes but whatever comes out of me is "my voice"
i don't feel pressure to have it match my irl personality at all
that is part of what i love about making music? that sort of freedom to say whatever i want. i have yet to use words to do this but maybe someday.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 30 March 2020 20:56 (three days ago) link

this has definitely been a big obstacle keeping me from writing any song songs anymore. i used to be ok with shutting off that concern and writing lyrics that were abstract or about something small or dumb but now i'm immediately like "WHAT do i need to SAY about the WORLD" and so my solution has been not writing songs at all any more

which is dumb because i've never been someone who writes personal songs (only rarely) or creates art to process my feelings. making art of any kind has always been more of an intellectual exercise or a way to zone out and not think, combined with the satisfaction of producing something concrete. so i don't know why i feel this pressure now. probably some combination of getting older and being more in touch with my feelings and the world feeling more desperate and the scarcity of my musical production making it feel like what i do produce has to be particularly meaningful

na (NA), Monday, 30 March 2020 21:04 (three days ago) link

i think of my musical voice as a voice i can use to express whatever i want -- it changes but whatever comes out of me is "my voice"
i don't feel pressure to have it match my irl personality at all

oh me, neither! what i meant to express was that i think it's interesting how sometimes creative process kind of automatically self-selects for certain aspects of a personality, depending the medium or the project. that may be just a subjective or personal thing, but i was just curious if others felt like that too. if anything, i think i especially enjoy working on projects that let me explore aspects of my personality or emotions that i don't normally get to use in every day life.

i used to be ok with shutting off that concern and writing lyrics that were abstract or about something small or dumb but now i'm immediately like "WHAT do i need to SAY about the WORLD" and so my solution has been not writing songs at all any more

yeah, i stopped writing with lyrics (or at least produced much, much less) for several years (late 20s to a couple years ago) for a similar concern. i suddenly felt so bad and embarrassed, like anything i could possibly say is terrible and irrelevant. plus you have incidents like when turrican listened to an ilxors song lyrics and made fun of them, which is like the amateur songwriter's worst nightmare. in my mind, every listener was turrican, just waiting to pounce on something and criticize. but i guess where it's different is that you're saying more broadly that anything you could say about the world wouldn't be meaningful to others (which is not right! just gotta throw that in there!), whereas i was hung up on feeling incapable of producing something that would be meaningful to others.

it is all very weird, and perhaps in a couple years i'll feel ashamed that i shared my new songs with lyrics. but i hope not, because when other people share something that is revealing, i always think more of them, never less, even when i don't like the music much! i'm just kind of like "i appreciate that you care about this." dunno, it's hard to explain. i go back and forth between shame and sharing, but i generally feel better when i'm sharing.

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 March 2020 22:35 (three days ago) link

oh me, neither!
oh, me neither!

i meant the latter!

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 March 2020 22:35 (three days ago) link

Yeah a lot of this conversation resonates with me, and putting it in these contexts made me think about my responses above as a listener (and as someone listening who also makes) and i think that personal thing in your song Karl is amplified not only by the fragility of your voice but by the very "here is a song" 3+ mins long, standing alone- in comparison to 2 lengthy organ pieces or LL's drumming. These two I can let drift over me, engage with them in focused listening or just in the background - but an individual song presented in the way yours was kind of asks "listen to me closely, because I will stop soon." Whereas I think if it was 30 mins of songs with that dreamy jangle and I could actually approach it as I did with the other two???

Tib, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 00:50 (two days ago) link

exactly! i feel like i know exactly what you mean by that! and for similar reasons i think that's why the majority of my listening consists of things i can walk away from and not feel like i'm missing something.

in a slightly different way, i think that i could just quickly scroll through 20 different finished product paintings and think "nope. nope. nope. nope." as i went, but if there was a recording of someone painting those same compositions, or was just presented less as a final "thing" and more like "this is what the thing is like, sort of, as it comes into being" i'd be way more interested and would watch for much longer. (maybe i'm off on that - i'm not even sure what i mean by that, but it seems right)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:04 (two days ago) link

one more thing that seems relevant: what's interesting to me is that when i go about writing a shorter, 3-minute-esque "song", it will take me forever. the fact that is has a clear beginning and ending and that there will be repetitive elements of the song that are recognizable even during the first listen, leads to so much more attention being paid to it, compositionally. whereas when i record longer things, i'm so much more open to letting the "performance" of it stand, warts and all.

the reason i mention that i think there's an interesting difference between the two compositional forms in terms of how they represent the raw music that's inside of everyone. the shorter structured song brings out the obsessive, foreground conscious decisionmaking, while the longer forms seem more primordial and real in some ways.

(i recognize that's not true of everyone - some people really, REALLY labor over super long drone recordings in the same way that someone is sitting there chewing on a pencil's eraser trying to figure out a better inflection for the last syllable of a two-verse song, while others (robert pollard?) seem to just crank out short-length songs without worry

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:27 (two days ago) link

...more like "this is what the thing is like, sort of, as it comes into being"

yeah this interests me as a maker/player in terms of music too and its the main reason this board is so nice. I lurk a lot (because hah,I usually think anything i could say about the world wouldn't be meaningful or maybe yeah feeling incapable of producing something that would be meaningful to others0 and just find the smallness and openness in terms of process, sharing, approach here rewarding to read and occasionally join.

Tib, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:55 (two days ago) link

Anyone try this thing yet?


DJI, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 19:55 (two days ago) link

no but it’s very interesting — I’d try it!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 20:57 (two days ago) link


this just launched yesterday too

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 04:03 (yesterday) link

ok keen to hear experiences?

Tib, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:46 (yesterday) link

id give it a go but i'm me

Tib, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:48 (yesterday) link

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