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this can be a rolling thread, maybe. forgive me if one already exists, i didn't see it.

i started taking guitar lessons again! that is exciting

my long term black/doom metal band (argentinum astrum) recorded an album last fall and we're waiting on a label dude to get another label to go in on releasing it? i have no idea how or what that is about. i want it to come out soon because we haven't put anything out in a couple years and i want to tour and am antsy about it.

im learning ableton in order to start doing electronic stuff by myself. that's kind of on the backburner atm tho

one of my fave local bands atm asked me to replace their bassist/harmony singer and i am probably gonna do it. it is kind of superchunk-esque?

i started a band with 2 of my girlfriends and we just had our first practice. guitar, bass and drums. playing kind of 60s-esque poppy tunes so far, but i have no idea where we will end up. i think we are gonna be called "high school"?? please tell me if that is a ridiculous name.

i recorded this local band called Killer Whale who play very crazy surf-influenced punk/metal, i love them and i am excited to record bands and put out records and things tho god it is so expensive to do this

i've been playing in this band with a weirdo that plays only covers of local, small time musicians. i just joined it, but it's kind of a local institution, been around a while with a rotating cast of ppl around this one guy. i don't know. it's fun to play with him , and very fun to choose and learn the songs, but he has a weird value system w/r/t music, ie he doesn't want me to sing harmonies cause i sing "like an angel", which isn't really true. he also has no ambitions (how can you be ambitious with a covers band really tho) and is really skeptical of people who have them. its fun tho.

i dont really have time to do any of this stuff

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:04 (seven years ago) link

this band with a weirdo that plays only covers of local, small time musicians

haha i love this

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:17 (seven years ago) link

haha its exactly what it sounds like

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:18 (seven years ago) link

the first person I contacted about guitar lessons is too busy to take me on as a student but promised to give me contact info for other ppl, which basically means I am back at square one re: finding a guitar teacher

I am currently in the process of tracking down sheet music for a recital of solo and ensemble spiritual arrangements I'm doing as part of a quartet made up of ppl from my church choir (inc. my wife as the soprano) for the Tuesday before Easter; we're also going to take parts of that recital to do as music for the Good Friday service later that week.

I'm also looking over the Dvorak Mass in D major, which I'm doing at an evening Good Friday service in Dorchester; my primary responsibility AFAIK is augmenting the bass section but I believe I'm also going to be doing the tiny solo parts as well. (The other ppl from that include my wife again plus other folks from the spiritual ensemble we sing in.)

Also have a concert with the church choir coming up where we're doing Stainer's Crucifixion; I am not the bass soloist for it (thank God).

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:42 (seven years ago) link

i didnt realize you were a bass! it occurs to me that i have never actually heard you sing. i imagined you having a very high tenor voice. haw.

purp (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:43 (seven years ago) link

i started a band with 2 of my girlfriends

Me too! We are called Ta1nted Pussy and have played 2 shows so far. We were supposed to have a show next Saturday opening for this weird Dutch guy, but he got detained by the Dutch government and told he can't leave the country without a work permit, so that show was cancelled. I play bass. I have not played bass since I was a teenager. So now I get to have fun learning/re-learning an instrument, plus I get to have fun with pedals. We are all noise/new music ladies, thus lots of fun with pedals. I got a Dr. Sample 202 for christmas! More fun! I kept one of the built-in samples, which is a lady saying "Stand By" for when we have technical difficulties during our sets.

We are planning to tour at some point later this year. L.A., maybe the South?

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:53 (seven years ago) link

next month we have a gig opening for Cock E.S.P.

Our singer said, "Why do we always end up on shows with other bands with dirty names?"

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:54 (seven years ago) link

having trouble finding time/motivation/energy to do anything too focused or serious over the past couple of years. i was playing with my friend who's a full-time musician but he decided to just play shows solo instead of with a band because the economics/logistics are easier that way. i've been doing some sample-based stuff on reason recently, i like it because it takes me back to when i was learning guitar and didn't know what i was doing and would come up with cool stuff by accident. also occasionally jamming/recording with the drummer from my old band, doing shitty lofi four-track stuff.

i would really like to have a more regular band where someone else bore the heavy lifting of the songwriting and i could just come in and play guitar and play shows a few times a year. but i'm not really connected to any kind of music scene anymore so i don't know how to find that kind of situation.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:56 (seven years ago) link

Band practice tonight. Eagerly anticipating our two track demo bak from being mixed/mastered although worried it might sound bad as we only spent two days on it.
Working on writing and practising our next batch of songs after an initial 6. It's now a concern that we have a 'sound' and aesthetic developing, meaning that we have songs we wrote and quite like that for one reason or another don't work very well alongside the others. Anyone had this problem? It didn't really matter before because we were still forming an identity which eventually formed into 6 upbeat slightly unhinged post punk numbers, but now this next one is a big dramatic sweeping thing with a more serious tone and we're not sure what to do with it.
Also written a reggae song, which I'm please with but need a way to subvert because right now it's verging a little too close to sixth form peace and love bob Marley cliches and I want to put a twist on all that really.
Wrote a sort of fast kinda sung-rap song but my girlfriend said it sounded like flight of the conchords. Not that that's an insult, but I wanted it to aoud more like Haim or something.

dog latin, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:02 (seven years ago) link

i didnt realize you were a bass! it occurs to me that i have never actually heard you sing. i imagined you having a very high tenor voice. haw.

haha that would make my dad very, very happy (he's a failed tenor in a previous life, sang lead in a doo-wop group in college)

I am technically a "bass-baritone" which really means that because most of my singing experience comes from being in ensembles rather than private, focused vocal study, I have no idea how to use my head voice and sing practically everything in chest; I have a sneaking suspicion I would end up being a true baritone or even a low tenor after several years of focused, serious voice training based on how my low range actually sounds, but the flip side is that I can actually croak out low notes even if they're inaudible unless I've been binge-drinking the night before so I dunno. But yeah, I've always sung low.

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:17 (seven years ago) link

(which is actually why, in my teens, I realized I was never going to be a pop or rock singer, and why I was so taken by the grunge explosion)

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:18 (seven years ago) link

putting the last touches on my new record (doesn't feel new, been working on it for about 15 months now) to send to mastering next week, figuring out how to put it out.

then i want to take some time to switch up my process, shake things up a little. work on some new synth sounds without any goals, try to finally learn ableton, record a bunch of new percussion samples. i want to take some piano lessons too, since i do everything with midi + mouse. i can figure stuff out on piano very sloooowly, so i thought it would be fun to play through some tunes in real time and get some chords under my fingers.

honestly though i probably won't do most of these things and i'll go back to what feels easy & comfortable. :/

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:51 (seven years ago) link

I just got our first track back from the studio. I love it and I also cringe a bit because I can hear bits where my voice goes a bit wrong or a beat doesn't quite land how it's meant, and I'm trying to work out if anyone in their right mind would really notice or care.

dog latin, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:57 (seven years ago) link

roxy high school is an amazing band name

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 18:58 (seven years ago) link

this is a neat thread idea.

i've been playing with a couple guys for the last month or so but it's just working out that well. they seem like they really want to sound like real estate or something, which isn't terrible, but a bad real estate impersonation comes out sounding reaaaaally bad, and it's not much fun to play drums to, either!

i've been writing and recording some new tunes, which doesn't sound like much but it's actually been a big breakthrough for me after about a 10 year songwriting/music coma that i didn't realize was a coma.

i'm moving back to chicago in a few months and i'm determined to join up with a good band. i used to be good friends with the cave/bitchin bajas scene so i'm hoping i can be looped back into all that stuff and that someone needs a good drummer

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:05 (seven years ago) link

and yeah, high school is good, although i have to say i liked it even more when i thought the name was high school??

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:05 (seven years ago) link


flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:08 (seven years ago) link

whoa z s do you want to be in a band with me?

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:10 (seven years ago) link

this is going to be really awkward when you reject me

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:10 (seven years ago) link

well, that was easy. sure, let's play!

it's gonna be more like september or so

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:12 (seven years ago) link

i think we are gonna be called "high school"??
I started a band in college called junior high university. I recorded one song for it and we had two practices and then everyone split up in different directions. that was the last band I was ever in.

have not touched my recording computer since my son was born. I long for a classical acoustic guitar so i can play around the house but I have no money for that now. debating selling an amp or two. I think my creative well has run dry for the foreseeable future.

we're beautiful like robots in dis guys (m bison), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:19 (seven years ago) link

i'm really burnt out on school this semester & have been slacking off to spend more time doing music stuff. all three bands i'm in are pretty active rn which can be overwhelming at times but is really fun. most notably i went on tour in january and started a new band called l0ud s3x which i am just so, so stoked on. the other songwriter in the band is really prolific and i really want to keep our ratio of songs 1:1. it's been a really fun challenge trying to keep up, he also writes amazing songs so i've had to be really strict about scrapping my tunes if they're not up to par. we're playing our first show at the end of the month & i'm pretty nervous because not everyone shows up for practice consistently and i want it to be spectacular

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:21 (seven years ago) link

sp3ctacular l0ud s3x

( ( ( ( ( ( ( (Z S), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:25 (seven years ago) link

I am not going to go into any more detail than this but the biggest audition opportunity of my lap literally just fell into my lap; I fully expect it to go nowhere but still, you never know...

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:28 (seven years ago) link

would watch n/a z s band

flopson, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:29 (seven years ago) link

DJP on x factor, it's America has been waiting for

we're beautiful like robots in dis guys (m bison), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:29 (seven years ago) link

l0ud high school s3x

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:32 (seven years ago) link

the biggest audition opportunity of my lap

lol dan

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:33 (seven years ago) link

oh no, I've said too much

"Bellini." (DJP), Tuesday, 5 March 2013 19:34 (seven years ago) link

I am in month 15 of releasing a home-made recording every month. A lot of times I put it off until the month is almost over and then go into crunch mode. But at this point, even though I approach each song as its own thing and wasn't trying to make an album or anything, I can listen to all the tracks straight through and it sounds really cohesive to me, which I think is really cool. I also feel like I get a little better/more efficient at production each time.

I haven't performed onstage in like a year though, which was a conscious decision and I don't miss all of the bullshit that made me sick of doing it, but I do miss being onstage. But I maybe just joined a band that I actually think is really good and is kind of successful locally, which is cool because I don't feel that way about hardly any local bands and also I've never really been in someone else's band. They have kind of a Modern Lovers/Beat Happening/Magnetic Fields/Morrissey vibe. It'll also be neat because I'll be playing synth and I'm not actually a keyboard player at all, I'm a guitarist and songwriter, but that's also why I'll be a good fit for this.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 21:33 (seven years ago) link

kicking off recording of a new album. finally a chance to properly use all this new synth gear

the history of mom's apple pie (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 00:49 (seven years ago) link

Hey all - could I get a little bit of constructive feedback on this please? We've had an initial "how's this?" from the studio engineer on one of our tracks. Overall, I think it's okay but it's very difficult to distance myself and listen to it with uninvolved ears.

I'd really like to hear your thoughts, particularly on the mixing/production (we can't really go back into the studio to do any overdubs or retakes so we're working with the raw material we have, for better or worse). Are there any glaring errors on this track or things I should mention before I get back to him? One thing I noticed is that he's been a bit heavy handed witht he gating and compression, particularly some of the vocal parts where the sibilants and plosives are almost non-existent.

I'm only gonna keep this track online for a short while, but if someone could give it a listen and let me know their thoughts, i'd be very much obliged: https://soundcloud.com/doglatin/honolulu-demo-050313

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 11:36 (seven years ago) link

god this sounds like a super harsh thing but i dont mean it that way - do you want/intend the beginning to sound like a 80's nylons style acapella group thing? like exactly like one? because thats what i hear. also some pitchy weirdness in the "so afraid" "yesterday" multivoice responses. again, if these are intentional things, no prob.

O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 16:49 (seven years ago) link

Lol, I haven't hear the nylons but it is supposed to be a bit of a tongue in cheek doowop thing and if it comes across that way I guess that's intentional. The song is very much a comment on retro culture and so it's littered with 60s and 80s references. Cheers for checking it out jjjusten, I'll look into the autotune thing. Think the sound guy's gone a bit overboard with vocal manipulation, but then we're not at all trained singers so there's undoubtably gonna be a push/pull thing going on.

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:29 (seven years ago) link

song sounds good to me, esp. for a demo. i like it.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:30 (seven years ago) link

Xpost If you're talkin about Housemartins/Flying Pickets, I def see what you mean and kind of don't mind. I (was made to) grow up with that shit, haha.

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:31 (seven years ago) link

Cheers n/a

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:32 (seven years ago) link

I am making a lil album of songs that are about a min long each, I have about 10 so far where the music is done but I have finished singing over one of them, I've come up w/ vocal melodies for about 3

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:47 (seven years ago) link

I am seriously using the dumbest most unwieldy out of date programs to put the songs together because for whatever reason I like how it all sounds more than if I do it in ableton?

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 17:54 (seven years ago) link

what are you using?

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:13 (seven years ago) link

I (lol) am using cues in virtual dj to play my laptop like an mpc or w/e (I could slice to a drumkit in ableton and do the same thing I guess, but idk, when I use ableton I spend 3 extra hours on shit) and then editing shit further and recording vocals in audacity, its a forehead in my hands deal, but still

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:22 (seven years ago) link

i love stuff like that.

queeple qua queeple (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:28 (seven years ago) link

well I hope it lives up to its rudimentary description, I'm starting to embrace it, at least this way I don't end up fucking around with corpus for a week with no results

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 18:35 (seven years ago) link

Good sounding demo, dog latin. I'd get some friends in a room for the backing vocals. And as for your solo performance it's a little too measured, just make sure you're saying "gate" instead of "gay" and make it fast and effortless

a) tepid b) vapid c) simpering d) milquetoast (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 19:18 (seven years ago) link

I was just in Prague recording with a budget-priced orchestra, stuff for five different clients and some stuff for my own use. There were 30 "pieces" ranging from 45-second long bits of orchestral incidental music to 20-minute marathon workouts. A total of 2.5 hours of music and 24 hours to record the whole thing. I def. got paranoid and overworked but I didn't break. I drove that bus.

It went very well but I instinctively prioritized the work of my clients, taking the time to really get something beautiful out of that shaky orchestra. I left not enough time for my own material. Now I'm futzing.

a) tepid b) vapid c) simpering d) milquetoast (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 19:22 (seven years ago) link

cheers FGTI - I did the lead vox, the others did backing. I think the engineer's but too strong a release on my vox because yeah, "gaze" sounds like "gay" etc...

dog latin, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:42 (seven years ago) link

i'm listening to spotify

markers, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 23:42 (seven years ago) link

gotta get these tapes out soon (for this band i recorded) but have no idea what im doing! i need to buy a tape duplicator! i need to buy...tapes! i need to figure out how to get this shit onto a master tape! what am i doing with my life! HELP!

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 00:58 (seven years ago) link

i told my mom i was in a new band called high school and she recommended that we call it COOL GIRLS instead. additionally, "i like just a girl's name, like maureen, or mabel, for a girl band"

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:01 (seven years ago) link

lmao at cool girls altho tbh i would like it as a name for a coed or all dude band

purp (roxymuzak), Thursday, 7 March 2013 01:01 (seven years ago) link

Usually avoid or de-emphasize notes that are a semitone above chord members

where is the fun in this I ask you

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:25 (two months ago) link

Well, don't do that if you want dissonance, which I often do! Leading into the chord member from a semitone away or a semitone below and above is a common jazz trick.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:30 (two months ago) link

But yeah, assuming that YMP wants to follow the harmony.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:31 (two months ago) link

("don't do that" = do the opposite of what I said if you want to sound dissonant)

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:34 (two months ago) link

See, I can play arpeggios, but that's basically the same as playing rhythm, to me.

And as far as sund4r's "thinking of tendency tones" and "avoid or de-emphasize notes that are a semitone above chord members," well, to do that I need to know what the chord IS, and that's the rub. If I have actually remember where we are, or look over at the other guitarist, "shit, what chord are we on now" then I lose the trance-state. As Tombot says, that's not as fun as letting loose and not caring where you are in the progression.

Anyways, it's not THAT big a deal - I do fine for the situations I put myself into, and I rarely have to play improvised leads anyway - I am usually on mandolin, or on drums, playing rhythm guitar. When I have to play a mandolin solo, I tend to write one and memorize it, as opposed to improvising.

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:43 (two months ago) link

just play don't think so much

lumen (esby), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:48 (two months ago) link

Ah, if the trouble is keeping track of the changes, and this is something you want to do, then you probably will need to actively listen and count, which will mean getting out of the trance state for a while. And/or practise over those changes at that rhythm. Playing rhythm and playing lead are not that different - instead of repeating the arpeggios in a rhythmic fashion, you move around between the notes melodically and fill in the spaces. If you're doing fine letting loose and not caring, and that's more fun for you, then do that, ofc. I was just trying to answer the question (or at least the question I was inferring).xp

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:50 (two months ago) link

this is all in your head. just have a blast and the progression will eventually come back around.

this sounds like overthinking dance steps -- i can pretty much never follow dancers who are very rigid about "correct moves" but if the leader goes with feeling, it's way way way easier to follow (if i have to follow)

just play don't think so much

My only problem with this advice is that some people do learn better by learning, thinking about, and applying theory.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:53 (two months ago) link

you're of course right. the amount of brain space / cognitive appetite available for theory knowledge varies from person to person.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 16:55 (two months ago) link

I definitely feel like knowing some music theory gets in the way of creativity for me, especially when it comes to writing simpler music like the stuff I like.

DJI, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 17:06 (two months ago) link

you are absolutely correct that some people learn that way -- i am not one of them and that is ok too. it wasn't advice in my case, it was my experience i was relating

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:10 (two months ago) link

No worries. I read "overthinking" as judgment but thanks for clarifying.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:24 (two months ago) link

nah -- i know that this is what works for some people! i am a teacher! :) i just have a hard time dancing with people who have a very rote idea of how to dance. it's not a really a problem because the opportunity to dance with another person arises about 2x/decade ;_;

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:35 (two months ago) link

A perhaps simple way to do this:
Start with the blues. You might not like the 1 4 5 progression, but you surely know it well, and you can feel which of those chords you are on at any given time. The way to start finding local harmony rather than global harmony is to target the major 3rd note when you are on the 5 chord. In the key of E you will have been playing E pentatonic over E and A. When you go to the B chord you want to throw in an Eb note in place of a D. This will make sense in context of the chord you are on and offer an obvious way to resolve back to E natural on the I chord. Maybe you know this already.

29 facepalms, Wednesday, 8 July 2020 18:38 (two months ago) link

I don't improv very often but I really can't fathom being so zoned out that I don't know where I am in a chord progression; most of the music I'm singing, it's integral knowledge that affects voice-leading and my ability to properly tune the chord.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 19:14 (two months ago) link

29 facepalms's idea sounds good.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:08 (two months ago) link

HI DERE. I have in recently years been playing electric bass in jazz band and I heard you guys were talking about soloing.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:12 (two months ago) link

Oh wait, sorry wrong thread.

Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:13 (two months ago) link

then you probably will need to actively listen and count

Hah, yeah, fuck no. I don't even count when I'm playing drums in a weird time signature.

This just pushes me back onto Team Tombot / esby. Never mind.

The original question was from Neanderthal, so let's talk about what Neanderthal needs.

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:16 (two months ago) link

By ear, can you pick out the root note of a chord? You could maybe try that to guide yourself?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 21:53 (two months ago) link

My ear sucks which is why I'm a drummer

LinkedIn Park (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:33 (two months ago) link

my ear is good for rhythm, that is why i am a drummer :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 22:52 (two months ago) link

What about learning to play the main melody of the song and then when it's time to solo using that as a starting point to make some variations?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:39 (two months ago) link


Lipstick O.G. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 23:49 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

I'm fairly close to being done making an album of solo electric guitar material (mostly tonal, somewhere in the realm of 'soft' modern classical, modern jazz, folk, and ambient, not a world away from the electric things I've posted to this board?) and thinking of what to do with it other than post it to Bandcamp when it's done. I'm not expecting to make charts ofc but just looking to get it out a little wider than it might with just a Bandcamp link on its own. I don't have that much experience with this side of things - put something out on a small label in 03 but otherwise have just done everything myself. Have people found much benefit to working with labels these days? I was wondering if it might make it easier to do a physical release. I've heard from some people that they have better experiences just working directly with a hired publicist; not sure how you'd go about finding a good one, though, or if, in the end, it's more practical to just work on one's own and send things to the right places, at least to start with?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 16:25 (one month ago) link

I'm obviously unqualified to answer your questions, but congrats, Sund4r! I very much look forward to hearing the album.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 16:43 (one month ago) link

Honestly have no idea how to go about marketing music; I'm barely at the "record some stuff and put it somewhere you can share with your friends" level

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 16:45 (one month ago) link

Sund4r, are there labels putting out stuff in this mode that you enjoy? I'm a big proponent of at least reaching out to labels first for something like this, and imo it helps if you genuinely know & enjoy their work, and can make it personal.

If no one bites, you can always self-release or look into hiring PR. But I think a label can really be beneficial in terms of connecting the record with an audience who's already checking for this sort of music.

From what I've heard hiring PR can definitely help in terms of getting premieres and possibly reviews, but I'd say only do that if you're willing to lose money on it in exchange for some more ears. It would be super hard to try and get those on your own, unless you're really lucky or have some connections.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:17 (one month ago) link

Yeah it think that’s about right. Submitting tracks to the Spotify editors feels like pressing the close door button on the elevator - something that was put there to make you feel like you have any control. Review sites are great but similarly opaque in terms of their selection process, and I’m guessing only the really big ones even move the needle. Hiring PR is probably the way to go, but it’s trading cash for ears, as Jordan said - you probably won’t get your money back.

DJI, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:43 (one month ago) link

Sund4r, talk to Hand Drawn Dracula

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:48 (one month ago) link

Can't wait to hear it!

jmm, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:58 (one month ago) link

Thanks, that sounds like good advice, Jordan, and I really appreciate the tip, fgti. I'll get on that. Thanks for the support, everyone else!

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:18 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Realized on the weekend that I'd fouled this up by sending the incorrect link to labels. Trying to rectify that now.:(

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 22:41 (one month ago) link

About to play Smith Brindle's El Polifemo de Oro at a local guitar society Zoom event. Just pulled it out after a long time after Julian Bream's passing.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Sunday, 30 August 2020 22:09 (four weeks ago) link

How did that go?

Two Little Hit Parades (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 August 2020 13:56 (four weeks ago) link

Eh, messier than I hoped but that's what these things are for, I suppose. Was good to revisit the piece and I hope to keep playing it.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Monday, 31 August 2020 14:29 (four weeks ago) link

Incidentally, my anecdotal impression is that standards of classical guitar performance have really risen or shifted such that a much higher level of precision and cleanness is de rigueur even at the medium level compared to 20 years ago, which I was reminded of watching the younger guys at this thing. Feel like it used to be normal to expect more buzzing and fluffed notes even in concert performances by professionals.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Monday, 31 August 2020 16:19 (four weeks ago) link


Two Little Hit Parades (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 31 August 2020 16:20 (four weeks ago) link

Went to watch a jam session recently. Most of the guys playing at a really high level, but there was one guy who I have seen before who could play okay as part of the section but his soloing was a mess, which made me think of a recent discussion which was on this thread I think

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 September 2020 15:15 (two weeks ago) link


the fills: sloppy! the tempo: could be steadier! but this is what i've been doing for the past month or so, just trying to get competent at this smashing pumpkins song and a few others

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 14 September 2020 21:53 (two weeks ago) link


Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 01:05 (one week ago) link

That rules Brad

I traded my violin-that-I've-had-for-twenty-years for a cheaper and better new violin made by some guy in Minneapolis, sounds great, I am inspired, I've been practicing a couple hours a day, learning Mozart and Brahms.

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 02:15 (one week ago) link

My church choir is doing a compiled video of current and former members performing "Swell the full chorus" from Solomon by Handel; we do it every year in September when the full chorus comes back to sing services but, since everything has to be remote, the director asked us to record our parts to a guide track and invited former members to contribute videos as well. It should be interesting to see who appears in the final video.

shout-out to his family (DJP), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 13:40 (one week ago) link

Oh, that's cool.

And that's p huge, fgti. Couple hours a day makes me feel like I should get off my ass. I was close to that a couple of weeks ago but nowhere near with the fall underway.

The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:26 (one week ago) link

My band played in our guitar player's driveway last week for the first time since mid January in preparation for streaming something for friends this week. It was sloppy and my left shoulder hurts more than it probably should but holy shit did I miss that.

joygoat, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 15:31 (one week ago) link

I like your grip Brad, I always think it looks cool when drummers have a natural french (thumbs up) grip. I use it for certain things (like jazz ride patterns), but not everything.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 16:01 (one week ago) link

I was taught that thumbs up was better for wrist and arm health?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 18:27 (one week ago) link

Maybe? It's not as natural of a wrist motion for me (compared to palm down), but it does feel better for using the fingers.

I've been on a Philly Joe Jones kick after randomly catching this John Riley video, he breaks down the sticking in such a clear way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8pmpHp8hrQ

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 19:18 (one week ago) link

I love this guy (and I've been buying his jazz sticks for years), the point in the last few minutes about repeating yourself to convince the listener that your playing has intention is so 'obvious' and yet so crucial:

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 21:38 (one week ago) link

Thanks for posting that - nice grounded lesson and approaches.

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 23:15 (one week ago) link

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