Chris Dave
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiUcE-23RKQ
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3n3xoE-R8M
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
dude shredding on Mario Bros
― Jordan, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude's gotta have a monster reach to hit that dresser.
― libcrypt, Friday, 20 July 2007 02:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude looks like that O RLY electrosoul guy whose image is all over ILX. After some serious woodshedding.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 27 July 2007 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link
dorky German shredder shredding over Futurama and Simpsons quotes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHft4OR7Rus
― Jordan, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Bernard Purdie (more of a groove video than a chops video, but awesome, and fucking hilarious):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gujufbGoS20
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 2 August 2007 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link
Purdie with Jon Hammond (check the solo at 5:16)
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 2 August 2007 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PWkTjlS5R0E&mode=related&search=
Haha, that first BP clip is great. "Whoaaaaah!"
― Jordan, Thursday, 2 August 2007 14:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Oooh, I like that
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 2 August 2007 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link
One of my favorite drummer youtube clips, Brian Blade w/Joshua Redman: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EBjsAyUM1N0&mode=related&search=
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 2 August 2007 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Steve Gadd w/ Giovanni Hidalgo (I love the double hi-hat)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GuBAfPi1cVo&mode=related&search=
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 2 August 2007 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Something that might surprise you Sam Woodyard (of Duke Ellington's band): http://youtube.com/watch?v=a3XXi3krN80
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 2 August 2007 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Bill Stewart w/some great trading: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAojnI7e0zA
― Jordan, Thursday, 2 August 2007 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Dave King: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugPIpfZnNa8
― Jordan, Thursday, 2 August 2007 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Deerhoof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEYSeygs97Q&mode=related&search=
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 5 August 2007 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Note he appears to be using two crashes on a hi-hat stand as is only cymbals
― Hurting 2, Sunday, 5 August 2007 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Nice. I still don't know how he can sit that low and play the bass drum.
― Jordan, Monday, 6 August 2007 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha ha, I love Greg Saunier.
― n/a, Monday, 6 August 2007 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't really know much about drumming but one of my favorite drummers to watch is Jim White of the Dirty Three, who is now kind of an indie rock drummer for hire, playing with Bonnie Prince Billie, Cat Power, Nina Nastasia and others. He's got a very flamboyant style with big flowing arm movements. He completely upstaged Bill Callahan when playing with Smog. It's hard to find a good YouTube clip, but here he is with Dirty Three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw3GIWWiKjU
― n/a, Monday, 6 August 2007 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this is Ricky Wellman? W/Miles in the 80s. I love his playing on the version of this tune that's on Live Around the World. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00tzcnyDL68
― Jordan, Monday, 6 August 2007 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Max Roach vs. Art Blakey vs. Elvin Jones?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA5dt9QT4Ms
Max is totally ridiculous, but when Blakey comes in it's just like "awww shit..."
― Jordan, Monday, 6 August 2007 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Here's Elvin's solo, he's not even trying to play the same game as the other two. Also the tape warping sounds sweet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfZSzDCPBvY
― Jordan, Monday, 6 August 2007 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha, I remembered the drummer for Diddy doing Kashmere on SNL being sick, and he is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45MghyE8pOI
― Jordan, Monday, 6 August 2007 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
lol @ Diddy, but srsly, if there is ever a Led Zep reunion I want that dude.
― Jordan, Monday, 6 August 2007 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
You can't see Usher's drummer in this clip, but he's totally ridiculous, esp. during the dance break. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zis-L5iBHB4
― Jordan, Monday, 6 August 2007 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
nick Jim White is one of my favorites.
― Hurting 2, Monday, 6 August 2007 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Shannon is my man. :>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu2wJqO2_Xk
― Jordan, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Keith Carlock
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=119513888 (his band is also one of the better-sounding awful mercenary drum clinic pick-up bands I've heard)
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 04:53 (fourteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kfFFAzPCANQ
I am a big fan of this guy, but it's kind of boring to watch this solo on youtube http://youtube.com/watch?v=T-WBAOgpK0w
although maybe it's just the trumpet player's fidgeting in the background that's distracting me.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 12:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I do like when "Boogie Stop Shuffle" kicks back in.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 12:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Haha, this is a timely thread revive. I spent a couple hours last night watching JoJo Mayer's dvd: http://youtube.com/watch?v=VLQMFIueUyc
The first disc is real talk, probably the best thing I've seen on grips, basic wrist/finger techniques, moeller, etc.. Then on the second disc he gets into all the push-pull/thumb swivel/crazy fast one-hand stuff, some of which is like science fiction to me. :( But it's good drum geek shit, it made me want to get into more of a definite practice routine. And the little interludes where he's playing beats outside in all these different NYC spots are nice.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
that dvd is amazing. it's all hands!
― cutty, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
but please destroy thomas lang and marco minnemann
― cutty, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^^yes, i got those dudes' dvds on netflix, ugh
― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
thomas lang is one soulless motherfucker
at least mm had that funny part where he's playing to simpsons samples
― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Then on the second disc he gets into all the push-pull/thumb swivel/crazy fast one-hand stuff, some of which is like science fiction to me.
Stuff like that quickly turns into chops as an end rather than a means, so I tend to tune it out.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link
chops as a means to a pair of leather pants
― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
This may have been posted already, but I love this clip of Neil Peart at the Buddy Rich memorial show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIchqJoxFQ
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 15 November 2007 06:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Somebody should show that to Joe Flaherty.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 12:41 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, sheila e
http://youtube.com/watch?v=33orc70TAxg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jicJsGCO3WU
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 November 2007 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Jordan, you didn't even say who else was on that youtube. Do you have that other lady's book?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
I just watched that with the sound off and imagined what the 'shredder' guy would have done with it.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link
No jam block, no credibility.
re: neil peart, i don't know, i mean dude can play of course but he sounded kinda high school on the chart, and rockish at times on the solo.
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 November 2007 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
no, she has a book?
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 November 2007 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
The piano player. Rebeca Mauleón. She wrote The Salsa Guidebook for Piano & Ensemble. Check it out.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
what the crap is going on in here?
Thinking about it in terms of drumming, it's definitely a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it's great that there's so much information that's available, and not gatekept behind lessons or a music education. It's amazing that you can see how people's hands move (instead of just your one friend in the school band who's decent at drums), get the sticking behind the lick, slow it down to .25 speed, etc.
NOT GATEKEPT is a key phrase heremaybe it's because i have had to maintain delusion-levels of belief in myself to progress as a drummer, or some other reason, but comparing yourself to others is a superhighway to feeling like shit. play like you feel it/be a conduit for the spirit and you may not ever be recognized but at least you are playing music in a way that is enjoyable and i think that is the point. ralph molina otm, he was one of my early role models. in case you wondered, i started playing 7 years ago this June. yes that much time has passed.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 December 2020 15:26 (one year ago) link
Had some actual lols at this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzLg6aM3c7U
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:37 (one year ago) link
not a drummer: what is that loofa thing on his snare?
― na (NA), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:43 (one year ago) link
probably just for dampening (real pros use a wallet)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:17 (one year ago) link
this video is cracking me up
― Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:19 (one year ago) link
just like his funny faces, and stuff, more than anything. i like this guy and his loofa!
xp I don't know what it's called but it's like this little collection of fake shells strung together that you shake for effect (used here to dampen the drum/add effect).
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:27 (one year ago) link
i assumed it was for dampening but it seems so convoluted for that purpose
― na (NA), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:29 (one year ago) link
esp a fan of "diarrhea of the hands," a phrase I think will enter my lexicon, and being highly interactive with the soloist, died at that one
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:30 (one year ago) link
Love Zackgrooves, his channel has been a good replacement for Rational Funk.
He's just ridiculously good but has his head on straight about everything (and is goofy & funny obv).
― change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:49 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6i6liFJ84
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 6 March 2021 03:11 (one year ago) link
Don't know where to put this etc....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 00:54 (one year ago) link
lol that made the rounds years ago
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 01:53 (one year ago) link
i never get sick of it though
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:03 (one year ago) link
I feel very strongly that that drummer is at the right gig
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:20 (one year ago) link
Lol, was thinking the same thing.
― It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:23 (one year ago) link
Increasingly getting my drum jollies on instagram rather than youtube.
Monstrous and insanely creative percussionist I followhttps://www.instagram.com/akhamie.music/
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 15 April 2021 17:59 (one year ago) link
This guy is my favorite rn thoughhttps://www.instagram.com/p/CNpZKs6HT5u/
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:01 (one year ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/stevely_man_drums/
Hadn't ever paid much attention to James Gang or their drummer Jimmy Vox, but this is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo0vBdlWQs0
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 04:26 (one year ago) link
*Fox
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 04:27 (one year ago) link
Been getting into this French dude:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QABXwWOVOk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slHhwUY8hmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty_y_2INYgo
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 23 July 2021 21:13 (eleven months ago) link
Ok I'm pretty into the 'Everybody Want to Rule the World: Metric Modulation' challenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F88Z4Tts4gY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-4cErugi8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBOIuUKO1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RuVGHL-N78
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 29 October 2021 14:59 (eight months ago) link
great stuff indeed
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 15 November 2021 14:35 (seven months ago) link
Funk/jazz legend Dennis Chambers hearing Tool's 'Schism' sans drums and then taking a pass on drums a few minutes later. Pretty funking cool and kinda wild that what he came up with at points really is not all that far from Daney Carey's take. Dude heard this like once and then played this...yikes what a drummer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVwyAsU4dus
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Monday, 30 May 2022 17:39 (four weeks ago) link
ha i loved that video
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 30 May 2022 17:47 (four weeks ago) link
Yeah, that was fun.
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 May 2022 18:57 (four weeks ago) link
Already posted something by Rafael Barata a while back, but nothing by Edu Ribeiro who is an equally big monster and stage presence:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPp6mZht230
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 May 2022 19:25 (four weeks ago) link
That is the first tool song I’ve ever heard, all the way through I’m with Dennis, “not my cup of tea”!
― Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Monday, 30 May 2022 19:28 (four weeks ago) link
Tool (If You Think It's Over)
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 May 2022 19:53 (four weeks ago) link
wow that Ribeiro vid is something!
feels like a missed opportunity to not let us hear the tool track without drums, but still a cool vid with Dennis too
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 08:58 (four weeks ago) link
sick counting chops with Mike Manginihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ37nonagho
― corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 09:13 (four weeks ago) link
I've been trying to avoid that Dennis Chambers/Tool video because the algorithm seems intent on me clicking it, but here's what I've been into:
-This Swiss kid who's a fantastic bebop drummer, that's a big thing I've been working on lately: https://www.instagram.com/peterprimusfrosch/
-Joe Farnsworth's insta/youtube posts
-This Japanese kid is who just ridiculous, doing the modern linear post-Chris Dave/JD Beck etc thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uo6Gkv2YLQ
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:03 (four weeks ago) link
This Swiss kid who's a fantastic bebop drummer
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:05 (four weeks ago) link
This Japanese kid is who just ridiculous, doing the modern linear post-Chris Dave/JD Beck etc thing:
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:03 (forty-four minutes ago) link
I kind of hate this tbh, it's good chops but it just feels like a pointless exercise in how many different ways a beat can be subdivided. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with the tune he's playing over, not even in the most abstract/oblique way (other than being in 3)
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 21:53 (four weeks ago) link
I get what you're saying, the ubiquity of linear post-gospel chop style playing can all sound the same, it's meant to sound like a blur of displaced notes that miraculously resolves on the 1. But I'm pretty into this style that's more based around the backbeat, with all the skittery subdivisions in between. It's definitely not easy to make it groove (and I've noticed that the Louis Cole/JD Beck trick of putting splash cymbals or household items on all your drums really helps even out the sound between them, it makes it easier to play these beats and have it sound like a cohesive thing).
That video might not be the most musical example, but I think the point of the video is to show how many ways a beat can be subdivided. :) It's basically a backing track and he's got some fresh ideas. The culture of internet virtuosity has its problems, but I watch these for inspiration and to find a little something in there I can practice/incorporate.
A couple more:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81-6sUmUpHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OolnA7ElNpU
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:12 (four weeks ago) link
I love the Tears for Fears Metric Modulation challenge
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:16 (four weeks ago) link
haha, I see we've already been over this and, in fact, may be where I learned about it XD
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:18 (four weeks ago) link
Caught...in an ILX drum machine time loop!
― Once Were Chemical Brothers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 May 2022 22:19 (four weeks ago) link
There are so many young players out there that have just flat out samarai skills, it's scary.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:17 (four weeks ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9iIf4tFoyE
― Magical Misery Tour Spiel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 00:21 (four weeks ago) link
It really is. Not only is there so much information out there, but just having the opportunity to watch great drummers at any moment makes such a difference. And there's something about seeing kids in their bedroom doing it that makes it seem much more attainable.
Like, I really need to immerse myself for some things to sink in, and I think I could have been soooo much better when I was younger if I had Youtube. Instead I only got to see someone with good hands at drum lessons or at shows, when there was also a lot of other things going on.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 18:56 (four weeks ago) link
I'm more focused on guitar than drums these days, but I definitely learn and master things more easily and quickly now with youtube than I did in my teens/20s. I spent so much time flailing around trying to figure out how to do things. I don't think I wasted it per se, because I think I learned a lot from all that flailing, it just wasn't necessarily an efficient or effective way to learn when I wanted to develop specific skills/sounds/techniques.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 22:37 (four weeks ago) link
Anyway there are guys that do that hyper-subdividing thing really interestingly and well. I mean I like Chris Dave, but he also grooves so hard. And I've been really into this guy Steve Lyman for a while now, and he definitely does that, but he also has a really poetic flow and it seems purposeful.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 22:40 (four weeks ago) link
there's a fine line between doing that in an interesting way and being the @zachgrooves "diarrhea of the hands" guy
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 1 June 2022 22:44 (four weeks ago) link
I was just watching Steve Lyman, he's great. I think that's a huge disservice to ZackGrooves though! He can do the gospel chops thing but he knows what it is, and if anything he downplays it. Out of anyone he can play that intricate linear stuff with such pocket and conviction, and can also be a very tasteful jazz drummer. Idk, I've found his videos to be really inspirational and I bet he's only minutes away from getting some legit gigs.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 2 June 2022 16:17 (three weeks ago) link
Matteo Mancuso is a guitar version of these young ninja players. That dude's got some crazy unique picking technique that even has guys like Al DiMeola and Steve Vai going how the f' do you do that? And going by some videos, he kinda had most of the mechanical part down as a teenager.
― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 3 June 2022 02:30 (three weeks ago) link
Mike Mitchell is entirely too much, man. Just raising the bar so high.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uri8hvC4Ddo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agWHe71VAvs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9apDcFEmz0E
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 22:00 (one week ago) link
Can't remember when I last heard someone hit so cleanly and precisely, it's like the hovering of some enormous insect. His rhythmic language is an order of magnitude more complex than I can process, but it's fun to try to keep up ...
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 23 June 2022 01:42 (six days ago) link
Right?! I try to at least pick out one tiny little thing that I can understand & use.
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:32 (six days ago) link