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I recently got a Peavey Delta Blues guitar amp w/ one 15" speaker and this thing is great! It is just huge sounding - warmer than a Fender Twin, but wider range and brighter than an AC-30? Kind of like a little Marshall, really! They are super affordable and look cool.

I'm also convinced that more bass players should use tube amps! I have this little early seventies Fender Musicmaster bass amp and the thing sounds great.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 1 October 2005 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link

can't recommend 'em enough. i've got a blues junior (15w fender) and it sings and roars better tyhan the most expensive overdrive pedal ever. 15w of class A valve is Loud. enough to keep up with most drummers, might wanna mic it for gigs though.

it makes everything i play sound ace which is saying something because i'm not a very good player - a bit limited really.

if you want Metal you might wanna get a distortion pedal up front but i'm no great expert on those

yeah tube amps!!

john clarkson, Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I should mention that the overdrive on that Peavey amp I mention above is not so hot sounding, but the clean tone is just great.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i meant sound of the tubes overdriving when you drive the gain hard on input - if you wanna get the real lowdown on it head over to harmonycentral.com where 'real' experts (not me) post their ways of modding stock tube amps - swapping out factory speakers for celestion vintage 30's etc and re-fitting different tubes.

the knob that says 'overdrive' on an amp doesn't do it for me usually either.

john clarkson, Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

pff, stay here! i've built tube amps - clones of tweed deluxes and old marshalls. While I'm no true expert, i've managed pretty good. i can definitely offer advice or point you in a good direction if you want to swap parts....

AaronK (AaronK), Sunday, 2 October 2005 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

deal aaron, nice one!

*notes address*

john clarkson, Sunday, 2 October 2005 09:06 (fifteen years ago) link

The Fender Hot Rod Deluxe is a pretty great tube amp for $400-$500. The only problem with them, really, is that now everyone has them.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link

aaron k- what do you suggest as an all around best bang for your buck tube amp? i have heard that the pignose 30w is the tits, but being seriously budgetted would it be worth my while to build an amp? i can solder and read schematics . . .

jdchurchill (jdchurchill), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

kinda depends what your needs are. do you need a lot of clean headroom? thick overdrive? blues overdrive?

the fender blues jr is pretty sweet and would for *me* be the best bang for buck tube amp. although smaller tube amps can be had for less - epiphone and others make smaller amps for under $200. in my opinion tube amps work best when you can crank em, so for most uses, smaller would be better.

i cant agree with you Hurting, i used to have one of those and i just couldnt make it sound good. clean wasnt rich enough for me and the distortion sucked. but they're insanely popular, so who knows.

anyway, i couldnt really tell you about best bang for *your* buck, just depends what you want.

building your own amp isnt *necessarily* cheaper. that said, you can buy a kit for $450-600 that will have everything you need to build your own Fender Tweed deluxe or bassman or twin or bandmaster, etc.

one good place is missionamps.com and webervst.com

most of the kits are for old amps. 50's fenders and 60's marshalls. keep in mind that Tweed era fenders are not at all like latter day fenders - ie, their clean is not crystal clear. think neil young.

you could also build one not from a kit, but these two guys prices and technical help are so good, it's just worth your while.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

well, just checked the Weber site. he's got way more kits now than he did last time i checked. wow. I would suggest either the 5E7 Combo (tweed bandmaster) or the 6A40 which looks like a vibrolux reverb.

The first will give you enough headroom to play clean, but also some nice dirt if you decide to push it. the second would give you super clean as well as reverb and tremolo.

if you go this route, I'd learn a bit more about how tube amps, building tips, dangers, etc. it'll take some time to build and probably wont work right away. :) but you want to make sure that mistakes you make wont cost you your life or home. that said, these kits are NOT terrible difficult and the amps are classic, great sounding designs.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Someone just offered me a Sunn Solarus head for $200 Canadian. Condition is unknown... should I jump on this even if it needs new caps and tubes? I was planning on buying a Traynor reverb mate, but this came up out of the blue. Obviously if there's evidence of fire or other scary damage I won't be claiming it.

superultramega (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd go for it. That's like $160?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I do not know much about Sunn amps, but I do know certain older models are very much prized and collectable.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 01:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Sunn amps are not very desirable so they don't sell for much and many of their models were solid state. Still, any tube amp for $200 these days is a pretty great deal. It looks cool too.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 02:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Sunn tube amps were indeed very respectable. My bass player used two for years and they always sounded great and never failed. They also easily did double duty as guitar amps as many designs did when in their heyday. You had to turn them up quite loud to get brutal overdrive but the sound was terrific.

George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

The Sunn head I used to own, though it was a solid-state amp, was INCREDIBLY LOUD. I usually kept the volume on like 2 or 3, and that was in full band practice.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

It was the old Sunn heads that I thought were collectable and kind of cool to have these days because of the metal/stoner rock connection.

Old Tube PA systems like the ones Traynor, Sunn and some other companies are also kind of cool for guitarists who want something vintage but cannot aford the green for the big name stuff. I've got a friend that has a Bogen 50 watt tube PA that he uses as a guitar amp that sounds pretty sweet.

I got a cool old amp this summer, picking up an early 80s Marshall JCM800 4104 2x12 combo for $250 bucks. The only thing wrong was that the tubes were shot and it was filthy. I got it retubed and the bias set and it sounds pretty sweet, although the prescence has to be rolled off or it makes the speakers get staticky. It has two volumes, loud and off. Push it a bit past one and it gets really loud and doesn't seem to get much louder past three and half.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Blue Book value for a Sunn Solarus (from the vintage guide) is between $450-$600, so it should be a pretty good deal, unless the transformer is blown, in which case...not so much.

I'd buy it...

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the stoner rock bands used them because they were cheap. They may have risen in value but as far as I know they still don't fetch Marshall, Orange, Hiwatt, etc. prices. If you look at the completed auctions on Ebay, a Solarus recently sold with a buy-it-now of $290.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, I bought it, and a friend has offered a working 4x12 cabinet for $70 so that balances it out. It powers up, but makes no sound (yet). One of the small tubes doesn't glow when the power is on, so I'm taking it to a reputable tube amp tech here in town. The reverb unit is still intact, too.

superultramega (superultramarinated), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's my dilemma i currently own a marshall 1971 jmp 100 head with a basket weave 1960 ax reissue quad happy as punch with this for rock rock n roll etc but for all other duties read below

I want a small foot switchable twin channel tube driven amp both chans tube non master volume with reverb and vibrato channels small enough to busk with use in the studio and take to a gig it would be nice if this could also be hooked to battery power for those times when power cant be found while busking rms power between 20 and 30 watts rms

considered amps so far have been fender deluxe reverb,if only this amp was 30 watts fender blues junior, cool but would love it if this were non master volume hot rod deluxe, very nice but its a master volume job yet again watts a lil higher then i wanted love a 65 twin reverb but those 85 clean watts are only nice for my surf sounds too much clean power for everything else i like.
bassman,45watts too much wattage no reverb nice with 2x12 or 1x15 but i guess it would not be a bassman then

i think something which either runs a 1x12 2x12 or a 1x15 combo and i realise 2x12 is rather big for a small combo something like a twin at lower watts but yet higher then a deluxe reverb but lower then a hot rod deluxe i must be confusing hell out of you all now ;-)

i guess a deluxe reverb on steroids is what i want ;-) maybe a vibrolux the last choice is an amp ive been very very tempted by its a chris seigmund midnight special a little smaller maybe but man this baby has the goods http://www.siegmundguitars.com/MS.html

can anyone assist me with my mindfield of choices keeping in mind what i originally wanted to get hold off

thanks in advance to anyone who leaves usefull non critical feedback

regards wayne ;-)

wayne, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

You said you wanted RMS power between 20 and 30W, and then you say the Deluxe Reverb doesn't have enough power? It's a 22W amp, dude.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link

They are expensive, but an Orange Rocker 30 or Mesa Boogie F30 combo are killer amps that might fit your needs except for the tremelo. Those are probably the two nicest 30 watt EL84 combo amps I have come across.

Peavey is putting out a head version of the Classic 30 in the next few months, which is one I have my eye upon.

earlnash, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow that does sound cool... Most common mod of the Classic 30 now is the speaker change, so the head version is a great idea. Yay Peavey!

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

get a deluxe reverb dammit. those amps are awesome.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

or a super reverb if that's too small (shouldnt be).

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe the Deluxe Reverb needs it's own thread. I could gush about them (vintage and reissue) for a long time.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah. the Fender Deluxe in general needs its own thread. I have tweed deluxe clone that is just dripping sweetness in everyway. I just think these are simply the best amps i've ever come across. glad to know there are others who could gush as well :)

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 10 November 2005 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Solarus update: all new tubes and filter caps are going to set me back a bunch, but it should still come in under the blue book figure, assuming that is in US funds. That's the extent of it's ailments, aside from corrossion and gunk.
Also, I just watched a video of the MC5 playing on WTVS (via http://bedazzled.blogs.com/bedazzled/), and they have almost identical Sunn rigs to this one.

superultramega (superultramarinated), Thursday, 24 November 2005 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

should i sell my ac30 and buy two fender tube amps instead?

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:01 (fifteen years ago) link

which ones? is it a vintage ac30?

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:30 (fifteen years ago) link

nar it's a 90s one. i'd like a vibrolux and one other i haven't decided upon yet

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 8 December 2005 04:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I like ac30's and all, but I love vibroluxes. So I say yeah. What other Fender are you thinking about?

John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, and I still think that Solarus is going to be piles of fun.

that would be a long xpost...

John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:05 (fifteen years ago) link

deluxe reverb has always appealed (haha duh).. i love the AC30 but i've played through a few borrowed fenders lately and i was shocked how much i preferred the tone i was getting. i fear though that i risk losing the fullness that the AC30 gets but even after using one for the last 8 years i still don't feel like i've gotten the sound quite right.

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

also having amp reverb is becoming urgent and key. i'm starting to get mighty sick of the sound of pedal reverbs

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, now you've picked tow of my top three Fenders, so I give you the double thumbs up. I guess I've never really thought of the AC30 as a terribly full amp...

John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting *scratches chin*

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm going to do some investigatin'!

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 8 December 2005 05:35 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i personally would go with a vibrolux or deluxe reverb. butt hat's me.

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 8 December 2005 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

The Vibrolux is a thicker sounding amp than the Deluxe, but I think the Deluxe is more balanced for multiple uses. The blackface era Deluxe (which is the one that was reissued) has to be the all time pedal-friendliest amp I can think of in that just about every pedal on the planet sounds good with it. (Insert gratuitous Martin-has-too-many-pedals comment here. Heheheh.)

If you buy a newer Deluxe, try to get one from the 90s that has the Jensen in it instead of the Fender branded speaker if you can.

John, what's your third favorite Fender amp? I'd put the Deluxe and Vibrolux as 2 out of 3 as well. I wonder if we're in agreement about the third... I am really partial to blackface Vibrochamps.

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, and why do you need two Fenders? Why not buy one Fender and pocket the difference. Or buy a Telesonic. ;)

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm welp i probably don't necessarily need two fenders but i've got some stereo effects i'd like to be able to take advantage of with a two-amp setup..

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahhhh. I didn't think of stereo. :)

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 8 December 2005 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

in my xperience, the second amp used for stereo FX neednt be of high quality. sure it's nice, but if you're using it for say, tremelo pan or ping pong delays or whatnot, you'll get most of the way there with any old amp - the main thing is that sound is coming from all around.

but man, you could do so much worse than a deluxe reverb and vibrolux....

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 8 December 2005 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

so how do the newer versions of these amps stand up to the 60s/70s versions? obv i'll be trying out some before taking any plunge but is there a rule of thumb?

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Friday, 9 December 2005 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I used a blackface Vibrolux from the early 70's to about '84 or so. Replaced it with a Mesa Boogie Mk. 1. The Vibrolux was a very durable and dependable warm-sounding amp. But it wasn't a total classic rock machine and it was underpowered for the requirements of the time. A loud drummer would crowd it. Now, when PAs are much better, it would be adequate.

I traded in the Mk. 1 Boogie in about a year for a Reeves-era Hiwatt, the main amp I still have. That Hiwatt smoked most anything the blackface Fender could do, was better built, was more versatile and easily tuned to everything from blues to raging hard rock. A caveat -- the Hiwatt was easy to alienate an audience with, something the blackface Fender very rarely ever did. Both were classic amp designs.

George the Animal Steele, Friday, 9 December 2005 05:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Hiwatts are literally the heaviest amps on the planet. I have a friend that has older Bulldog 1x12 combo and I bet it weighs a hundred pounds. The thing sounds great, but makes a Twin Reverb seem portable.

I play in a cover band with some older guys that run a guitar shop and they are dealers for some of the new hand wired Hiwatt amps. They sound fantastic, but they cost as much as a used car.

I always loved the sound Duane Denison got in the Jesus Lizard using his Hiwatt half stack. It had a real edge, but was still pretty clean. The Hiwatt reall worked for Denison's guitar style, as he could voice all of these inverted jazzy chords and it would still cut through like he was playing a power chord.

earlnash, Friday, 9 December 2005 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I play in a cover band with some older guys that run a guitar shop and they are dealers for some of the new hand wired Hiwatt amps. They sound fantastic, but they cost as much as a used car.

Yeah, they've become radically overpriced. Strange, since the name "Hiwatt" doesn't mean anything anymore. Anyone can use it for awhile to put out their own repros or whatever their conception is of a Hiwatt knockoff. What has their been in the past few years? Audio Bros. did them for awhile. Then it was Fernandes. Then Harry Joyce made them under his own name until he died. Then there was Reeves. Then Maxwatt. I don't even bother to keep track anymore it's so sad and pathetic.

George the Animal Steele, Friday, 9 December 2005 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow! That's radically overpriced for what it actually does. For same money you can get some new hand-wired craftsman amp that will sound as good or better, be more reliable and haver change left over. Now if you're buying as an investment to resell as an heirloom in your retirement, I can see it as an interesting deal.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

"in perfect condition" though :)

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 12 December 2005 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, pff. i would offer to MAKE one for you for half the amount.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a reissue Deluxe Reverb and I used to own a legitimate '65... Yes, the original sounded marginally better than the reissue, most likely because the original speaker and tubes and been "burned in" over a period of more than 30 years. Would the reissue consistently lose in a blind comparison test? Hell no, especially not if effects were in the equation. Would the original fetch crazy dough on the used market compared to the reissue? Absolutely, that's why I sold it.

If you really do "believe in" (even if it means just preferring for esoteric reasons of your own) the mojo of older equipment, there are a lot of amps out there which do not have a Fender nameplate on them which are affordable and totally rockin. Many of them are complete Fender circuit ripoffs anyway...

I'm not knocking said mojo either. I'm just saying it will cost you if it's name brand mojo, and I personally don't think the difference in cost is worth any [perceived] difference in quality between reissues or newer amps and rock and roll icons of yore spilling forth from time capsules in varying condition.

Also note, if you're gonna pay an amp tech to give an old amp a cap job (and most of them need them sooner rather than later), why not just upgrade the caps in a newer amp and get the slight sound improvement of, say, orange drops out of an amp that will likely be more reliable because it hasn't been used for as long?

martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 12 December 2005 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

martin generally otm.

a problem only arises when the reissue circuit has been changed from the original.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

off topic (?) but I've got a tube amp question- I've got a reissue twin rev. that I love, but tone-wise it is only at its best when the volume approaches levels safe only for the stage or well-isolated studio. Does anyone know if it is possible to have it modified so there would be, say, a toggle that would 1/2 the wattage or something? assuming that that would allow me to get the same tone @ lower volumes

b'angelo, Monday, 12 December 2005 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

a problem only arises when the reissue circuit has been changed from the original.

Sometimes a circuit change doesn't really make much of a difference tonally. I mean not $$$$ worth of difference, if you ask me. Generally I'd agree w/ you though. I mean if the circuit is different, it's not the same amp now is it?

Does anyone know if it is possible to have it modified so there would be, say, a toggle that would 1/2 the wattage or something?

You should be able to yank two of the power tubes to get it to run at half power. Don't quote me on that until you do some searching online, but I'm pretty sure it's safe. (Anybody know if the reissue Twin is cathode or fixed bias? That'll answer the question.) You'll likely have to yank every other tube or something like just the outside ones, depending how they are wired. I specialize in small amps, so I'm not super familiar with the Twin, reissue or original.

Hope this helps.

martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

most likely fixed i would suspect.

also, best bet is to use a power attenuator of some sort, because even at 50W it's still going to be a loud mofo. attenuators are many and varied, but the Weber Mass actually simulated the frequency response of an actual speaker, so it is fairly transparent tone-wise. www.webervst.com

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 12 December 2005 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

cool, you guys are v v helpful

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I'm a little hesitant to start pullin' on tubes in general, both because of my general ignorance w/electronics and also the desire to go 1/2 to full steam in a sec if need be. however, the attenuator looks perfect! Can you vouch for any of those Weber ones in particular? and do I look for one based on my amp's wattage or impedance? (or both)

thanks for the advice!

b'angelo, Monday, 12 December 2005 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, i have the Weber *mini* mass. doesnt have as many features as the big one, but i can say it works like i expect it too. but check out some online reviews too - do a search... dont just take my word for it :)

and yes, you're right - it has to be matched in terms of power and impedence. Weber sells all sizes, and generally the impedence is selectable on the unit. as you can see on http://www.tedweber.com/atten.htm there are several to choose from, including links to other popular ones made by other folks.


also, weber makes great stuff - especially speakers.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

A year or two ago, one of the power tubes in my SF Twin took a crap. I couldn't afford to retube so I just pulled one of the other tubes to get to 50 watts. It does take the wattage down but not so much that you'd really notice (3db from what I've read). It also creates an impedance mismatch with the speakers resulting in a more saturated sound. I believe you should pull either the outer two or the inner two.

If that doesn't get you to where you want to be, you might be better off with an attenuator (as Aaron suggested), or a lower-powered amp.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

It does take the wattage down but not so much that you'd really notice (3db from what I've read).

The relationship between wattage and volume is not linear. Often you hear people saying shit like "the Deluxe is surprisingly loud for a 22 Watt amp," which is ridiculous because, well, the Deluxe is exactly as loud as a 22W amp should be because that's what it is.

But yes, 50W is not that much less powerful than 100W when you are just talking about sheer volume of sound. As wattage goes up, max volume changes less and less. What can change a lot is clean volume. For example, not only is a 6W Champ a lot less loud than 22W Deluxe, but it overdrives waaaay faster if you compare relative volumes before the circuit runs out of headroom. And we all know how hard it is to overdrive a 80W or 100W Twin...

I'm oversimplifying to make a point, but still...

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

right - a 10W amp will be, generally speaking, HALF as loud as the 100W. so pulling 2 tubes helps, but not too much.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

After messing with my Blues Junior through a Marshall Cab, I think 15-20 watts must be about the right amount, as I can get it to saturate well without blowing everything out. I can't believe how good the Blues Jr sounds through my 1936 cab, it seems like a totally different amp.

I've been investigating the Yellow Jackets primarily to knock down the power in my Marshall JCM800 50 watt combo. I was thinking about getting some to put in my 5150 combo, but I got a good offer and sold it last Sunday. The Yellow Jackets will definitely fit in my Marshall, so I am considering on picking a set in the next few weeks.

earlnash, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

remember though, it wont knock the power down TOO much, it's more for the tonal change from one output tube to another...

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

my new baby

http://www.tugboatonline.com/ilxstuff/amp.jpg

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Saturday, 24 December 2005 07:59 (fifteen years ago) link

ahhh, you got the blonde

you will not be sorry.

martin m. (mushrush), Sunday, 25 December 2005 09:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice. I've never seen one of those in blonde.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 26 December 2005 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link

sweet.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

That is nice.

By the way, my other favorite Fender amp I alluded to above is the blackface Concert. '64, if we're going ultrageek today.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I really want an Orange AD30 or AD30tc head. Those amps are so gooood. Everytime I go up to my local store, I check out guitars on those amps or a Mesa F50 combo.

earlnash, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...
"the Weber Mass actually simulated the frequency response of an actual speaker, so it is fairly transparent tone-wise. www.webervst.com"

Following up on a couple of things from a few months back. I did some swapping around and got a Mesa Boogie F50 combo and a Weber Mass attenuator.

The Weber Mass works freakin' GREAT. I have gotten my best recorded guitar tone by using the Mass and recording via the DI output. I almost can't believe how well it works. You can play and have the room volume be comfortable and yet get sustain/feel like you are melting the paint off the wall. I'm not even using the 'tone circuit' feature on the Mass, as it sounds real flubby to me, just direct and tweak on the amp to set the sound.


Earl Nash (earlnash), Monday, 24 April 2006 02:39 (fifteen years ago) link

that's really great! my mini-mass doesnt have the line out, and i always wondered how that sounded. I suppose that's the ultimate test of the thing, as there is NO speaker to go through, just the coil itself. good, that's really good!

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 24 April 2006 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

btw, just beware, you will go through tubes like their nothing with this thing, because you'll have the amp cranked all the time :)

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 24 April 2006 13:00 (fifteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Just picked up an Ampeg Super Rocket yesterday... There was no reason AT ALL to bring in a 2x12 100w amp into the house, but I still maintain that these guys are undervalued. Great amp although I'm going to be saying "can't hear. what did you say?" for the rest of my life.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 14 June 2013 01:31 (eight years ago) link

the deluxe reverb i got upthread is probably one of the best bits of gear i've ever bought

multi-purpose food (electricsound), Friday, 14 June 2013 03:42 (eight years ago) link

The shop has been blessed with craptons of magnatone amps for some bizarre reason over the last year and man, I am obsessed with that fm vibrato.

Hi i am your great fan suces (jjjusten), Friday, 14 June 2013 05:10 (eight years ago) link

I just wanna spam this thread with crazy tube amp shots from the shop now. You guys have to see the crazy titano rebranded magnatone we got in recently.

Hi i am your great fan suces (jjjusten), Friday, 14 June 2013 05:15 (eight years ago) link

Why don't we have an imm crazy vintage weirdo picture thread? Maybe I should start one.

Hi i am your great fan suces (jjjusten), Friday, 14 June 2013 05:24 (eight years ago) link

zero to galleries of weird Soviet synthesizers in 10 posts.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 14 June 2013 06:28 (eight years ago) link

All guitars should be shaped like America.

how's life, Friday, 14 June 2013 11:32 (eight years ago) link

Oh wow...it's kind of weird seeing posts from 7 years ago. I still got the F50, but my haul of stuff has changed quite a bit (and expanded). I got a few cool vintage instruments but mostly stuff from the 70s and 80s.

earlnash, Saturday, 15 June 2013 07:53 (eight years ago) link

seven years pass...

Tell me about (new) Magnatones! I kind of want one of these, but it's super expensive. Are the cheaper ones good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pJcjVzIPZQ

I've also been thinking about a Fender Deluxe or Princeton, but their sound is so ubiquitous and this seems to have a different sonic character that I like.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:41 (nine months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I would like one of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGK2fzAxVM

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:21 (eight months ago) link

I got excited and thought this was a home stereo tube amp thread. Sweet amp, though!

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:52 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

so my vox ac15 is being weird. the master knob doesn't do anything. i can still get some volume out of it by using the normal or top boost level controls, but the master seems broken.

any ideas?

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:27 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone out there familiar with / have any opinions on Tyler Amps?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:39 (five months ago) link

Welp, anyway, I wound up buying a gently used Fender 68 Custom Princeton Reverb and it's fantastic

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 15 April 2021 22:09 (five months ago) link


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