guitar NEWB thread

that + microtonal should be enough to make your wife and any neighboring cats hate you

oh I had a glorious Saturday fucking around with the Mad Doctor a few weeks ago, it was magical

I had to disconnect from it because I am afraid that if I continue to play through it I will never actually learn how to play in fast rhythm

re: pedal points: I started doing the thing of moving the E and A chord shape up and down the neck of the guitar without the barre to make cool chords with an E or A pedal in them, which was mostly how I stumbled upon how to play a good chunk of the chords to "Classic Girl"

I... think I wrote a song? :-D

For everyone?

well I have to record it and write lyrics

it's very "dude who can't really play the guitar writes a guitar song" and features an A octave played across three strings

kind of want to start a thread called I Love Power Chords

Eb = Hendrix tuning. Eddie Van Halen too. Stevie Ray too, I think...

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Slash

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This fucking tuning.

It's not a city in China.

haha what about that tuning??

i have an irrational dislike of it myself tbh

I kind of love it but that is partially because I'm a baritone and all my good singing keys are flat (particularly Eb and Ab)

That people record songs in it! Wanted to figure something out last night and I was like, "OK, thing that's an open E strong there...." Nope! Open Eb. transposed everything into E, but then playing along with the recording is out. And it comes up rarely enough for me at least that it's not worth detuning another guitar for.

String, not strong

so many '90s alternative bands recorded in Eb

the old trick used to be rehearse in E, record in Eb - it's a way to keep singers in their comfort zone.

My work band recorded/performed everything in Eb tuning (guitarist was a Van Halenite), which was great for me because that meant I could actually sing some of the covers we were doing

it's more common than you think, historically. i learned of it as a 'grunge' thing to do -- it certainly was seen as such in the guitar mag universe when metallica did it on load. but long before that i think r&b players would tune down to Eb (or up to F!) to be able to fit in better in horn-driven arrangements

also dreaded stevie ray vaughan

i don't know if DJP specifically would like this, but i'm enjoying this web series on vice's music page called "guitar moves" that has matt sweeney (of chavez and other bands, one of my personal musical heroes) interviewing guitarists from various bands (so far including josh homme from queens of the stone age and james williamson from the stooges) about their guitar playing. it's not tech-y, it's more just cool dudes sitting around bullshitting about playing guitar, but if you're into these kinds of bands, it could be useful/inspirational in learning guitar i think

http://noisey.vice.com/guitar-moves

Some Neil Young songs are in Eb tuning and only sound right to me in that tuning

Jimi often tuned Eb

that looks super interesting and is really conflicting with my "avoid Vice at all costs" personal stance

holy shit that blake mills kid

i like Eb tuning. you can play along with a keyboard easily by mucking around with the black keys, don't have to worry about all those white keys

those vids are fun. the josh homme one is cool, i realise i've never heard him speak before and his voice is not what i was expecting.

just FYI, I am putting guitar on my contribution the NIN pre-cover comp

I am still horrible at playing chords in time but, with some drilling, I can do simple lead melodies, which is exciting to me.

bernard sumner over here

So I am (for real) finally getting a guitar. I think I want a Jaguar. I want a couple pedals, maybe a practical one and a fun one. Any suggestions? I am not really interested in rocking out, more in being weird/annoying.

Awesome! The hotbed for ilx pedal talk is over here:

Pedal geeks i need u (help jjjusten make decisions about awesome pedals for his store)

But I guess the first question is what's your pedal budget looking like?

And what kind of weird?

and what's your amp situation?

Little practice amp, probat. They have a little Fender amp and a little Silvertone at the store.

Pedal budget- maybe couple hundred, for now, little less.

Kind of weird - give me some choices.

Probat=probably

Reverb. I want reverb.

everyone does

Tc electronics hall of fame and hall of fame minidi some weird shit,esp with the toneprint options

Blue box sounds cool?

I don't understand jjustens last post at all!

Budget weirdness options - mooer lofi, mooer slow engine

my unhelpful opinion is to do nothing re: pedals until you love your amp

Toneprint allows you to use your smartphone to play a modem sounding noise into your bridge pickup and change the settings in the pedal.

Also low budget weird - pretty much every single idiotbox pedal.

my unhelpful opinion is to do nothing re: pedals until you love your amp

^^^^ THIS

Sometimes I think people learning guitar should be banned from pedals for at least 1 year, maybe 3 years.

I would say that they should be banned from playing with them for longer than 3 minutes in a space where others can hear. Otherwise, it's too much fun.

yeah, i regret not waiting to use pedals, they really atrophied my playing skills. not!
Guitars are for making sounds

fucking how do you turn pedals off anyway, do they make pedals that turn off?

A bistable multivibrator

they don't make pedals that 14 year olds can figure out how to turn off

Pedals for your pedals.

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