for now, i'm holding my tongue, but suffice it to say that i am increasingly disappointed in fender as a whole and am considering some major changes in the near future at the store that may not have a lot of room for the new face of fender. which bums me out, but i still prefer the idea of buying with my conscience, not "tradition".
I am super interested in what you have to say abt Fender (and any other manufacturers actually), dude.
― the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 21:44 (seventeen years ago)
I've probably said this, but the quality of guitars in that price range (while not uber-artisanal) is light-years beyond what their equivalents would have been like in my youth. Yr kids on a budget should stay away from the $100 and sub-$100 First Act things at Target or Best Buy, but today's Epiphones and MexiFenders seem pretty decent to me.
― Ye Mad Puffin, Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:37 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
Not exactly true. Many of the Japanese Squires of the 80's were as good, if not better than your MIM or even USA Fenders, and you can probably still find used E Series Squire Strats for less than a new Mexican Fender or Epihone Les Paul (the latter just look too fucking goofy to me).
― Mexican Sleeping Pill, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 22:00 (seventeen years ago)
so SeMo, i'ma interpret this as 'stop waffling and buy that cij antigua tele TOMORROW', eh?
(SCOTCH!)
― natlawdp, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:50 (seventeen years ago)
How much is said cij tele?
― Mexican Sleeping Pill, Saturday, 17 January 2009 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
it 'was' $850 bucks, aka too much $ considering i've never payed more than $300 for a guitar-but that's my all-time favorite guitar & finish combo...
― natlawdp, Monday, 26 January 2009 00:37 (seventeen years ago)
cij = covered in jizz
― Joe Bob 1 Tooth (Hurting 2), Monday, 26 January 2009 01:08 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe Fender will make a "road worn" punk special that's covered in audience spit...
― snoball, Monday, 26 January 2009 09:05 (seventeen years ago)
stupid Fender IPO gimmick
― beachville, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:59 (fourteen years ago)
oh sorry dude, i started a thread abt this on ILM before i saw this bump
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:54 (fourteen years ago)
nbd
― beachville, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:06 (fourteen years ago)
stupid james hetfield car paint gimmick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdXp1nhmzW0
― what's so funny bout deez nuts and understanding (how's life), Saturday, 17 October 2015 20:34 (ten years ago)
cued to the right part of the video:
https://youtu.be/EdXp1nhmzW0?t=2m39s
― what's so funny bout deez nuts and understanding (how's life), Saturday, 17 October 2015 20:36 (ten years ago)
What the actual shit is this? (mildly NSFW)Joe Doe by Vintage Punkaster Electric Guitar
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 27 March 2021 21:05 (five years ago)
huhhttps://www.guitarplayer.com/news/joe-doe-unveils-wild-new-punkaster-guitar
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 April 2021 14:41 (five years ago)
the back of the neck is.... something
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 April 2021 14:42 (five years ago)
https://www.tuneyoursound.com/sites/default/files/sam_2026.jpg
Shades of the 1997 Will Ray signature "Jazz-a-Caster", whose similarly deranged cousin the Jorgenson Hellecaster I own one of
I was in the market for a new guitar a few months ago and Fender had this Vintera strat in a really beautiful Daphne blue, but it's just got loads of stupid fucking holes and abrasions sanded in it, infuriating
― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 4 April 2021 15:04 (five years ago)
I get unnecessarily angry about relic guitars
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 4 April 2021 16:16 (five years ago)
They can look good but it's a fine line - replicating the UV fading of early Fender metallic colors mostly.
My local Guitar Center has a room of Fender Custom Shop relics and they're all terrible, not even just ugly but they don't look particularly well done compared to some small shops, mixed with tacky appointments like gold hardware and gaudy flame maple necks
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 4 April 2021 23:19 (five years ago)
I mean I could see some aging being ok but the shit I see on Craigslist is more "attacked by a drunk with a belt sander"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 April 2021 00:15 (five years ago)
I’m pretty intrigued by the new Jason Isbell tele - MIM, supposedly chunky neck, “road worn” nitro finish... not out yet so we’ll see but if the neck’s right and the wear’s not awful this could be my jam
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 April 2021 23:42 (five years ago)
just looked, the road wear is pretty subtlenice looking
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 April 2021 00:37 (five years ago)
The Chrissie Hynde Road Worn looks cool too.
They did a '50s Road Worn in purple that I saw at Guitar Center before the pandemic - the neck was pretty nice, definitely on the thicc side compared to the '60s C on my Jazzmaster.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 11 April 2021 00:44 (five years ago)
there's a britt daniel signature thinline tele now?? how did i not know that!
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 April 2021 00:53 (five years ago)
I think of him as an ES-335 player (but then it has been ~16 years since I saw them play)
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:12 (five years ago)
we should do a thread on "people you are surprised have a signature guitar model" because that happens to me on a weekly basis
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:17 (five years ago)
Chris Cornell's hideous olive drab Gibson signature model to thread
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:26 (five years ago)
oh yeah that's a rough one. cornell will always be a gretsch player to me.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:35 (five years ago)
Fender gave Ben Gibbard a sig mustang recently...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qwJnyelGb0
― i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:48 (five years ago)
Jeff Skunk Baxter sig Epiphone acoustic
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 12:07 (five years ago)
Lee Ritenour 'Ibanez Signature Model' Guitar ad, 1981 pic.twitter.com/2rvk8DnpIv— Barney Hurley (@barneyhurley1) April 10, 2021
Lee Ritenour Ibanez
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 13:35 (five years ago)
that strikes me as one of those you could pick up cheap and it would be better quality that a gibson that cost hundreds more
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 April 2021 16:50 (five years ago)
Could beWonder how much one goes for these days
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:15 (five years ago)
does he have a signature synthaxe model too?
― brimstead, Sunday, 11 April 2021 17:21 (five years ago)
One would hope
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 18:31 (five years ago)
relic guitars always make me think of the kids who didn't know how to skate that you'd see scratching their decks or grinding their trucks on curbs
― joygoat, Sunday, 11 April 2021 20:33 (five years ago)
Posers
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 20:37 (five years ago)
I find signature models offputting for reasons I can't fully justify, even though the guitars themselves are sometimes quite good.
― mirostones, Sunday, 11 April 2021 20:39 (five years ago)
One signature model that I've always been a little bemused by is Squier's Simon Neil strat, which stuck around for a few years. It's actually a great shade of Fiesta Red, but every time I see one, it reminds me that I've still never heard Biffy Clyro.
― peace, man, Sunday, 11 April 2021 20:49 (five years ago)
Who?
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 21:05 (five years ago)
The Bono Gretsch is pretty cringey
https://gretschguitars.com/gear/build/hollow-body/g6136i-bono-falcon-hollow-body-with-cadillac-tailpiece/2411409846
I mean, it's probably a pretty decent instrument, but no one in the universe thinks of Bono as a guitar player.
― Jurassic parkour (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 11 April 2021 21:59 (five years ago)
Boner sig gtr? Gtfo
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:01 (five years ago)
guitars with slogans on them really stand the test of time.
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:09 (five years ago)
I hate when they even put the signatures on the front of the headstock. Should be on the neckplate if anything.
― i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:15 (five years ago)
#shame/ I like the Noel Gallagher Union Jack epiphone
― calstars, Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:34 (five years ago)
Pick guard is the worst
― microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 11 April 2021 22:55 (five years ago)
A vision board on the pick guard
Now there is a guitar that actually would be more palatable if someone went over it with a belt sander.
― mirostones, Monday, 12 April 2021 02:21 (five years ago)
razed by wolves
― microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 12 April 2021 02:59 (five years ago)
Rory Gallagher, who rode a motorcycle named 'Authenticity', would surely have approved of this relic oh wait no he probably wouldn't...Rory Gallagher Signature Stratocaster
How about the Jason Smith Builder Select Garage Mod Stratocaster? 'Garage mod' in the sense that it looks like its been knocking around in a garage for a few years.
Alternatively, do you want a guitar that looks like it's been stored in a basement that flooded? Try one of the Fender Custom Shop Super Heavy Relics.https://images.guitarguitar.co.uk/cdn/large/170/200918362198025-6352252b_03.jpg?h=500&maxwidth=770&scale=canvas&bg=ffffff&quality=70
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Saturday, 4 February 2023 20:31 (three years ago)
I read something a long time ago that claimed that Gallagher actually 'reliced' his own guitar - there's the story about it being stolen and found in a ditch but that didn't actually do much damage and he stripped it himself in the late '60s.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 21:36 (three years ago)
interesting move, they make overall a higher quality product than Fender but have never really been able to compete commercially.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Sunday, 5 October 2025 21:15 (eight months ago)
Pickups to taste, but the hardware is generally excellent in recent experience
A little beyond taste for me, stock Squier pickups seem decidedly inferior. Personally I will probably only do locking tuners from now on. Would say a mastery bridge (etc) is a must on any offset, but I don't play em.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Sunday, 5 October 2025 21:17 (eight months ago)
The pickups on the Squier Classic Vibe Jaguar I bought last year were better than the MIJ Jaguars I had before that, and close to the old AVRIs. And if you want a Mastery on every offset (I certainly don’t, they don’t even accommodate a wound 3rd) then you’re spending that whatever it says on the headstock.Locking tuners are a whole other argument but I have a lot or guitars which stay absolutely stable unless they need work on the nut. Tuners are almost never the problem, unless they are really cheap. And some of the Squiers do have really cheap ones, I am struggling with myself about replacing the Kluson style ones on the Jazzmaster XII (and will def replace the pickups as well if I keep it).
― assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 5 October 2025 23:23 (eight months ago)
sure, down to personal preferences of course, but there ya go proving my point... hopefully not $500 tho!
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Monday, 6 October 2025 11:54 (eight months ago)
Well the XII pickups are just a bizarre choice (a 14k single coil ?!?) unlike the rest of the range. But I will admit to spending 80 on some ToneRider Hot Classics for the Paranormal Offset Telecaster. Necks on both guitars are fabulous tho.
― assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 6 October 2025 12:25 (eight months ago)
80 isn't bad though. That's just normal maintenance basically. I had to buy a new set of tuners for my fanciest guitar because one of them literally broke, and that was like 100.
― encino morricone (majorairbro), Thursday, 9 October 2025 05:35 (seven months ago)