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Hip Hop is able to sample music, similar to rock bands using synthesizers, and make good music.

I am feeling really good about this shit right here.

― Confounded, Friday, 27 April 2007 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

HOW IS MZ APPLICTION?

― ralph, Friday, 27 April 2007 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

U BANNED.

― Oink Administrator, Saturday, 28 April 2007 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't know Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof if they collectively bit me in the ass.
Sorry, just not my thing, but I'll choose Deerhoof, just because it's a cool name.

Just out of interest, I decided to have a listen and it turns out that I actually would know Deerhoof if they bit me on the ass, I've seen them play a couple of times, just forgot their name.
So who's better?
Well, Sufjan, after a very brief cursory listen, sounds like Sam Beam on acid, so I dunno, is that a good thing?
Deerhoof, they sound like every single one of my friend's bands.
I ain't kidding, every time it's the same thing, "come see us play, we're like nothing else, totally original"...uh-huh.
Since it's been so long since I saw Deerhoof, they must be really old (like me) and if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then they win on influence alone.

See what I did there?
I have no f'ing clue what I'm talking about, but I came up with an opinion anyways, and I'm sticking with it.....USA! USA ! USA!

― Stiles, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

Whaat?

― Confounded, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

Pulling an uninformed opinion out of my ass like that just felt rather American of me.
We're good at that.

― Stiles, Sunday, 29 April 2007 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

We are not here to offend people of any nationality, Stiles. This is not about America. Oink is about coming together as a world community, and drawing nationalistic lines is contrary to the spirit of this invite program. This is a warning.

― Oink Administrator, Sunday, 29 April 2007 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Taken.

― Stiles, Monday, 30 April 2007 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

a) TRG103
b) Thomas
c) 20
d) M
e) London, England

1) Gym Class Heroes - as Cruel as school children, Mark Ronson - Version, GTA Vice City Soundtrack

2) I must admit i had never heard of the term rockism until now, but i was actually familiar with the concept despite not knowing it's name. My music taste is predominantly of the hip-hop variety, so i often hear a lot of "it all sounds the same" and so on, basically dismissing it's originality in comparison to other music genres. Rockism seems to glorify "pure" music for lack of a better term. By pure music i mean that which is produced by conventional instruments and not aided by or indeed created entirely by modern technology. Hip-hop is a genre where this is common, and indeed the blatant use of older material is incorporated in many songs, and i think this sort of music is what goes against the concept of rockism. To me though i don't think it deters from the creativity of the artists in question, music is music to me no matter what instrument it's made with. I feel i've answered "do you agree with rockism" more than "what is rockism" here so hopefully it all ties in!

3) http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper344/stills/1m73o811.jpg

4) I'm not even going to pretend i know what i'm talking about here. I'm sure you can let me off researching both artists, and as i expected both are from America and as far as i know have yet to really make any impact over here. Perhaps they have made some sort of an impact to dedicated fans of minimalist music but as a follower of a very different genre i've failed to notice either of them. During my research i came across the fact that quite a number of Stevens' tracks have been featured on The OC. While i don't like to stereotype, i get a sort of image in my head now of the style of music he has (it's worth mentioning i'm trying to answer this without listening to either in advance, then checking to see if my assumptions were correct). Stevens seems to appeal to me more purely for the fact that he's a solo artist, meanwhile Deerhoof a sizeable list of former band members in their time. Again i'm just going on assumptions here but that screams out to me that perhaps they are not as successful as they would have hoped. So yeah Stevens to me just seems like the more complete artist, again this is only going by assumptions but it seemed better for me to do that than pretend i'm a fan of the two.

5) Just 1 for myself please - TRG103 at gmail dot com - if you need it!

― TRG103, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oink Admin,

Am I a reject or a happy oinker?

― sling_theory, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

1) baddudesben
2) Ben
3) 24
4) M
5) Los Angeles/SF

1) Cephalic Carnage – Xenosapien; OOIOO – Taiga; Elliott Smith – New Moon

2) Did you read that recent Keith Richards interview? The one where he snorted his father? Lost in the shuffle, in the midst of tawdry familial inhalation and Kate Moss references, was classic Rockism. Keef wanted to let us know that all music today is dogshit. In fact, all music made after 1979, qualifies as bonafide bullshit to the man [he may have a point]. He made a point of letting everyone know that the Artic Monkeys are posers. What are they posing as? White kids from England? What were the Stones posing as? Rockism is retarded.

3) [img] http://cdn.channel.aol.com/amgmusic/artists/pic200/drp400/p416/p41605ra4ma.jpg [/img/

4) I like Sufjan, but Deerhoof just does it for me. Greg Saunier is a GOD. I could write 80 pages about how amazing he is. And he loves ?uestlove! It doesn’t get any better than that. Add in the fact that Deerhoof songs just keep getting better and better and it’s a landslide. I may have a little bay area bias here too. Plus, I love the Curtains. So, I don’t know if Sufjan gets a fair fight.

5) Just one.

― baddudesbenn, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

Denied.

Reapply in 30 days.

― Oink Administrator, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

tawdry familial inhalation

― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dear oink administrator,
I am inquiring about my request form and whether or not my application was denied or accepted. Please respond whenever it's most convenient for you. Thank you.

― animal chin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oink Administrator

a) requested username Clarice
b) first name (no surnames) Maureen
c) age 60
d) gender F
e) geographic location Southern Ontario, Canada

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Spiderman 3 OST
Mandy Moore-Wild Hope
Bobby Valentino-Special Occasions

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is the integration of the old and the new music for me anyway. Its a system
going back to the 50's rock n roll artists with the forerunners like Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lewis .
Singing and playing instruments to your own music you wrote. Integrate the basics from then to now and
your got Avril Lavigne writing her own music, playing the guitar and singing rock pop. Rockism you hate some
of it and you love some of it, each to their own. From the old rock n roll to mixed, adult, modern, punk, pop, just acoustic
music of playing the piano and an electric guitar in a rock band. Take the Ashlee and Jessica Simpson compared to
Melissa Ethridge and Janis Joplin. I find the later Rockists but them I am 60. I can variate between classic rock albums
to pop artists that have all the frills. Disco ruled, also Rock n roll . Its now Rap, Hip Hop, Pop. So many genres.
Rockism is a musical theory, a way at looking at music and differentiating individual musical talent.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

I am not too familiar with Cat Power. This one is good.

http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Cat_Power/gallery/CATPOWERMAT002/

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Hmm Sufjan Stevens i like better than Deerhoof. Deerhoof sounds too synthetic and erratic. Where as Sufjan is a softer
musical arrangement music. Sufjan's tunes are alot smoother for my taste than Deerhoof. Deerhoof's instrumental background
is somewhat enjoyable. Deerhoof sounds like noisy rock metal. Its way out there, not for me. Sufjan sounds happier in his music.
He definately has more interesting lyrics and relaxing arrangements. Sufjan's tone is much softer giving his music a Magical effect
that lasts alot longer then Deerhoofs.

5) How many invites do you require?

Just one please and thanks

― Clarice, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

So hey, you said I was denied, but I didn't get banned for life etc etc. Can I reapply? Did my Jenny Lewis picture not make up for the repetition of the Richard Avedon photo? Eh?

― skeet happening, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

HOW IS MZ APPLCATION COMING

― ralph, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

SUP RALPH

― Lingbert, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Ladies and Gentlemen of Oink-

I come to you with grave news. I have received some information which I must share with you on this public forum. It has come to my attention that "ralph" is actually working for the R1AA. He has been sent here by his superiors to learn more about the Oink application process and infiltrate it. If a mission like this were to ever be successful, it could mean the end of Oink as we know it. It is my hope that this day will never come.

TO EVERYONE: please do not give "ralph" and Oink invite. He will most likely return under a different login and we will notify you when he does so. Please use extreme caution when passing precious pink invites on to others you may not know so well.

Ralph has been banned from both Oink and this forum. Do not associate with him.

Thank you.

-Oink

― g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

^^^^^^Do not listen to this guy.^^^^^^

He is not an Oink administrator. He had an off-board beef with ralph and is trying to slander him in this forum.

Grady has been banned 60 days.

Ralph has been sent an invite. (we're sorry for all the confusion ralph." be sure that grady wont be around to bother you any more.)

-(the real) OINK a.

― Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

THANK U OINK ADmin. i no theyre are a lot of disbelievrs on this thread and people who say it cant happen so i want to thank u from the bottom of my heart. and sometimes even when u say it people dont believe it so here take this GRADY and OTHER PEOPLE. SEE I HAVE FAX ON MY SIDE:

5. Grady
30 up, 54 down

A simpleton. Idiotic at best. Inbred moron.

You stupid Grady.
I hate you Grady.

SEE.

and also for other nonbelievers take this and put it up your OiNK pipe and smoke it

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7418/myoinksp8.th.jpg

i will oink all day and all night now!!!!! also i have not been bannd from this forum and never will be!!!

― ralph, Thursday, 3 May 2007 10:15 (nineteen years ago)

Ralph is totally lying u guyz. See i never got banned. and he just got that image from a GIS.

HE IS WITH THE R1AA AND IS NOT 2B TRUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

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― chaki, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

yo chaki YSI me some ghostface plzzzzzz???

― g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

wtf is ghostface pizza?

― chaki, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

Has anybody other than me heard the new Cat Power yet? Honestly, I think it's the best thing she's ever done.

― forksclovetofu, Friday, 4 May 2007 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard it yet! What does it sound like??

― Lingbert, Friday, 4 May 2007 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

YSI?

― Oink Administrator, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

P L Z Z Z

― Confounded, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

thx everybody... I'll see u guys in my next life:)

― tobb3, Friday, 4 May 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

before you go tobb3:

tobb3 appreciation thread

― chaki, Friday, 4 May 2007 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

a) anoushka
b) anoushka
c) 27
d) Female
e) North Carolina, USA

1) Logic Bomb - Sonic Algebra - Solstice Records - 2007 (VBR 192+)
Side Liner - Once Upon A Time - Cosmicleaf - 2007 (FLAC)
Entheogenic - Anahata - The Unmade Sound (VBR 192+)

2) The question "What is Rockism?" is very debatable, and open for individual interpretation. For Kelefa Sanneh, rockism is the aesthetic that defines itself by building barriers against what rock isn't. It means, he says, "idolizing the authentic old legend (or underground hero) while mocking the latest pop star; lionizing punk while barely tolerating disco; loving the live show and hating the music video." Rockism is treating rock music as the standard musical form, or the norm. In the rockist view, rock is the standard state of popular music: the kind to which everything else is compared. Rockism is an attitude about evaluating music. Rockism seems to do an exceptionally distressing job of maintaining genre boundaries. “Rockism” as a vocabulary, is often credited with growing out of the 60’s—Rolling Stone, Dylan, etc. The debate itself of "What is rockism" seemingly took shape in the 1980's. The interesting meaning about the word "rockism" is that it's not only rockist to love rock. Rockism can apply to different kinds of music.

3 http://www.celluloidandvinyl.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/smoking_cat_power.jpg

4) I have to be honest and say I hadn't heard of either artist, but then I poked around online and listened to some of the artist’s music on there. I really liked the track "Chi Tan First Guitar" by Deerhoof. The guitar and voices on it are really pretty. However, I found that most of Deerhoof's music just wasn't triggering any synaptic response for me. I loved the track "For the Windows. . ." by SufjanStevens, but I also liked what I heard of the avalanche. I'm going to have to go with liking SufjanStevens better. The style of music is more preferable to me. I also like his voice as well as the range of instruments in incorporates into his music. He seems to have a fresh perspective and a passion for all the emotion he is putting into his music.

5) One (1) invite would be fantastic. Thank you!

― anoushka, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

HEY GRAYD why don't i search for somthing on oink, your choice, and we can seddle this, man 2 man

― ralph, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

SHES A SEXY SMOKER I WISH I WERE THAT CIGRETTE

― ralph, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO SHE CAN PUT THOSE BANGS IN MZ FACE ANYTIME

― ralph, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

<i>I haven't heard it yet! What does it sound like??</i>

It's really sharp. She's kinda doing a bjork thing with her voice now that sounds kinda yodel-ly. One song has a guy crying in the background through the whole thing.

― forksclovetofu, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

does he sound like ralph?

― g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 4 May 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds awesome forks! i bet it really resonates emotionally with you.

― Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'd just like to say thanks to whoever on this board for my OiNK invite...and I'm puzzled that it wasn't from "Oink Admin". I've waited patiently and received it this morning and I am enthralled by the amount of music on the site. I'm still surprised to see that the people who were "accepted" are not listed as users on the site. What's going on?

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― crabcigar, Saturday, 5 May 2007 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

Congratulations, cragcigar! Welcome to Oink!

― Oink Administrator, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, craBcigar LOL!!!

― Oink Administrator, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

hey crabcigar, have you been able to get a copy of the new cat power album from oink yet? from what forksclovetofu says, it sounds very emotionally resonant and poignant. i'm not on oink, or i'd oink myself a copy. do you think you could get me a copy if I post nice things about you on your appreciation thread?

― Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck a cat power album, can you send me an invite? This application process is fishy.

― g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

lingbert - i'm afraid that the new album isn't on oink yet. it's already on the request list since february 19th though. i wonder where forksclovetofu got his.

― crabcigar, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

i have invites, and no real friends...... who wants one?

― Pablo A, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

forksclovetofu has a blog, so I think he has access to things that regular people don't.

― Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

crabcigar©®

― am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

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― am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

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― Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

LOL "crabcigar"

― am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 06:08 (nineteen years ago)

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