Oink Invites

what can I say, I have to hand it to you "Oink Admin," RickyG is in fact a part of Oink as of a few days ago, so it seems this place may not be hoax after all (or your just real good). That said I still dont understand why you are leaving all of these "accepted" people hanging. None of the transactions ive made have ever had this problem.

a) mazzic411
b) Ryan
c) 24
d) male
e) new jersey, us

1) lukid - onandon, isan - plans drawn in pencil, bonnie prince billy - i see a darkness

2) Rockism is, much like buddhism or taoism, a complete faith in the guiding light and purpose that music can offer us. Whereas prayer, sacrifice or repentance are part of other faiths, so too do we give all we have and devote our lives to the pursuit of the next great track or album to provide us sustinance and balance. True followers of rockism live each moment for their belief and find constant salvage in it. Music complements and enhances each moment of our lives and provides a type of fulfillment which is left empty by all other facets of life. The ipod is our bible, shows are our sermons and torrent sites give us new enlightenment like moses bringing down new commandments from mt. zion. I recall my rockmitzvah, listening to the likes of nirvana, pearl jam, op ivy and nofx, feeling the joyous power of rock and have never looked back since. Rock sustains us, guides us, and gives meaning to our lives. We, the followers of rockism.

3) havent seen a lot of pics but this is a good one:
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/artist/c/cat_power/az_official/281x211.jpg

4) While I can certainly appreciate the output of put I have to say that Sufjan takes it. First of all I feel like his voice is much more palateable and his lyrics are much better. First of all they actually have a universal meaning and story-telling quality and paint aural pictures rather than just spouting random weird lyrics. Second of all, he is such a master of orchestration and his arrangements and melodies are so concise and comforting as well as classic. A lot of his stuff is like a folky pet sounds or beatles type thing which I have always liked. Finally, he plays so many instruments himself. Playing nearly all instruments on the album himself and coming up with unique production and recording techniques is the true sign of an artist and has and will serve him for the duration of his career. While deerhoof have done some interesting things with rock and a new-prog type thing they just arent as proven or precise or anything as Stevens...come on now.
5) jus 1

Perhaps the creepiest thing about Goatse is that the man wears a wedding ring.

Oink Admin, never stop the ownage

g®▲Ðұ, yeah wtf was dat!?! always new twists in this show..i wonder how it's gonna end:P

a) requested username: Pixi5747
b) first name: Kristen
c) age: 20
d) gender: Female
e) geographic location: Silver Spring, Maryland


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week:
Ween: Chocolate and Cheese
Bob Marley: Legend
Primus: Frizzle Fry

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum).

Rockism recognizes the music there is in humanity, and our ability to produce it. There is a very strong connection between our primitive nature and music, so much so that it flows out of humans from the rythm in their bones and each breath that is taken. In its simplist form is the enjoyment of music for music's sake. It is an ideal that seeks to explain how music and its production play a critical role in our everyday lives, so much that it actually causes people to physically move. When given the oppertunity to take the time to recognize the intimate and complex connections between the producer of music, the sound itself, and those who interprate the music, one should be humbled in the face of rythm. Depending on one's position on their journey of discovering themselves in relation to the sounds they hear, different revelations occur which cause indivuals to seek and discover different genres and find what they enjoy. No one type of music should be criticized, for one man's trash is another's treasure. I can admit as a child I once loved N'Sync and Brittany Spears, without whom, I would not have had the foundation which brought me to my understanding of music today, which my libriary is mostly compsed of the illest jam bands. Although I do not particulary care for these artists now, and cannot beleive how agregious the effects pop culture has had on America, I will by no means dismiss what they have to offer because in and of its self is a piece that will have some impact on those who are exposed to it, for better or worse. We can only thank those who produce and share thier music with pure intentions and postive messages which no one can disagree with, like Bob Marley, Michael Franti and Spearhead. These are the artists whose messages transcend all biases, and seek to unite the world's diverse population as one race of humans. Power to the Peaceful.

Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power:
http://www.gigwise.com/artists/00010494_cat-376.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Due to the influential nature of both Sufjan and Deerhoof, as well as their divergent backgrounds, and ways in which people are influenced by the music, I find it hard to choose who is better. It is hard to conclude from my juxtaposition of the artists, whom I am really not that familair with. From what I have gathered, they both have different impacts on their audiences and preform in a completely different manner from eachother. For example Sufjan Stevens applies more of a structured folk approach characterized and enriched with his ability to preform instrumentally and lyrically, while Deerhoof is unconventional and seemingly odd music may not make alot of sense to those who do not seek for a deeper meaning. Infact, instead of hearing lyrical metaphors that are more likley to come from Sufjan, Deerhoofs whole songs could be metaphors in and if themselves waiting for one to discover the actual deeper meaning in irreverent musical practices.

5) How many invites do you require?
One invite for myself, please.

From what I have gathered, they both have different impacts on their audiences and preform in a completely different manner from eachother.

Are you sure about this?

g®▲Ðұ, yeah wtf was dat!?! always new twists in this show..i wonder how it's gonna end:P

-- tobb3, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:33 (2 hours ago)

i think its going to end with them all evolving into teleporting seal-like creatures.

is this lost thread or where to get oink invites?

This is a thread 4 Oink Invites only.

Grady and tobb are both banned 30 days.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃 is granted three invites.

I don't feel comftorable posting my username tohms
but just to prove he did send me an invite
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1815/picture1zv5.png

"take that tohms 19" = 0WN3D!!

"Torrents" "Good Torrents"

That's great RichyG! Welcome to the Oink Community!

If you are able to manage your upload/download over the next month, check back here and we may even grant you invites for you to pass on to worthy individuals.

Oink, only the best in Indie.

oh, and tohms19 just got royally sonned.

Are you trying to insult me or something Pablo? Go mow my lawn.
But Oink Amin that sounds like a plan! Thanks agan for inviting me I appreciate it so much!

Oh wait sorry tohms i didn't see this post you made

what can I say, I have to hand it to you "Oink Admin," RickyG is in fact a part of Oink as of a few days ago, so it seems this place may not be hoax after all (or your just real good). That said I still dont understand why you are leaving all of these "accepted" people hanging. None of the transactions ive made have ever had this problem.

*Takes back some of the diss-ness of picture*

a) marine_distance
b) Vanessa
c) 30
d) F
e) Mexico City, Mexico


1)
- decpetikon, birds of cascadia
- eluvium. copia
- daisuke miyatani. dario

2) rockism? British term that refers to the level of authenticity in popular (pop) music. It is a purist movement which believes that at one point music has reached its pureststate of expression. All subsecuent styles of music and technologies used to produce these styles will have resulted in a loss of authenticity, and that some kinds of new musical expression are nothing more than merchandising.
Rockism critics observe the following ideas: The use of synthesizers or other such digital media instruments are questioned for their authenticity, as they would tend to give the music a prefabricated feeling. Composer and Songwriting skills are taken into account as indicative of the quality of the musical production process. "Design" of the product is taken into account, i.e., it is more a merchandising product, or is it a unique creative expression.
Rockism critics are searching, as all critics do, for a certain purification or reduction of judgement to one single line of thought (western science teaches there must be only one origin to one thing). Problems with this or any kind of criticism arise when the reader or the critic him/herself questions the authenticity of his/her OWN judgement, that is, how does one conclude that one's own judgement is in fact authentic, and not biased or inadvertantly influenced by another idea (on whose judgement can we decide what is good music and what is not, what is authentic and what is not). The purity then, of "rockism" critiques would the be tainted, and lose value as a "dependable" source of criticism. The point to criticism is to make available other sources of thought and logic, then also the danger of critiques such as rockism or other music critiques is that they tend not to offer meaningful insight so much as offering simplistic views ("I dont like it bcause it talks about sex, I dont like it because its based all on samples of music which have been digitally mass produced, etc).

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.stefpix.com/archives/albums/chan/13_chan.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. It is like being asked to choose between apples and pears. Maybe the taste would be similar to some, but completely different to others. However, I would dare to state, trivial it may sound, that its not that Sufjan Stevens is better or worse, similar or dissimilar than Deerhoof, but simply different. Sufjan Stevens is different in a way that appeals to my particular sense of aesthetics. I do not dislike the clear musical influences that result in Deerhoofs eclectic style, but those of Sufjan Stevens evoke in me, because of the time and place that i was raised in, and my subsecuent choice in musical consumption. That being said, Sufjan Stevens style of expression, as per my taste, is a pleasantly surprising exprimentation in form and content of both musical structure/style, and creative expression in lyrics. I would not dare to make a comparison between the two, but only state that that afect that Sufjan's style has on me as an individual is that of contemplation and serenity and introspection and curiosity to hear what more he can think of. That in a nutshell, is great music to me, and that is what i search for in Sufjan Stevens music. It is quite an experience, and to find out whether or not another individual would agree to it, demands direct and personal experience.

5) How many invites do you require?
one please, for me :)

pix plz, vanessa

omg girl!! pix

okey admin...why didn't usay anything about this earlier..

we dont ask dudes for pix, tobb.

Oink Admin,

I haven't heard anything about my status? I am an unfortunate soul as well?

Sling_Theory

sling_theory,

i couldnt get those pictures to load. cant make a decision on your application until then.

Oink A

I'd like to go on record as saying that even though I specifically noted THAT I DID NOT WANT AN INVITE in my application; I was sent one anyway. I don't have to use Oink, because people mail me free music all the time (I HAVE A BLOG; i can prove this) but I could use it if I wanted to.

I'm of the opinion that a great many of the people complaining on here are only trying to get an additional invite to sell IN A DIFFERENT AND NON-OINK SANCTIONED FORUM, which I think is just sad.

Shame on you opportunists and thanks to the administrators who work tirelessly without appreciation or renumeration.

I would also like to request one additional invite; my little brother would like to try the service, as he does not have a blog.

Many thanks for the kind words, Mr. Forkslovesbrofu. Request denied.

Tough, but fair.

Oink Admin,

Thanks for the second shot at the image, writing my thesis paper right now, so my ability to type correctly has largely diminished.

3)Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.hi.is/~peturv/catpower.jpg

I sincerely hope you people aren't trying to cheat by using Google Image Search.

Huh? This image from the archives of Slap Skateboarding Mag., I guess all images on this forum could be found on Google, if you looked around enough...

Oink Admin-

I posted a response to the necessary questions and I am waiting to see if i recieve an invitation to Oink. You had commented on one of my essays that I wrote concerning the differences between Deerhoof and Sufjan Stevens, in which i explained that I have never experienced these artits; and therefore, cannot conclusivly say which supreceeds the other, so no I am not sure weather or not one is better in my opnion. Additionally, others have written that they are divergent in forms and preformance, likening them to apples and pears. I suppose all music has the same impact in the simplest form of of dancing, but the emotions that are evoked from the sounds may be completely different, take for example heavey metal and gospel music. Furthermore, the dance preformed may be extremely different, considering mosh pitting and praising. Reguardless of this, what precautious do I need to take in order to be considered for an ivitation again?

Fondly,

Kford1

Kford1-

BONUS QUESTION:

What is your take on Christian Heavy Metal? Is there a place for it in today's musical climate? What does Christian Heavy Metal mean to Christian Metalheads? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum).

Deerhoof and Sufjan Stevens, in which i explained that I have never experienced these artits

LUCKY!!

a) borespoons
b) James
c) 25
d) Male
e) Vermont

1) Feist - The Reminder, Prodigy - Return of the Mac, Rick Danko - Self Titled (mp3s are 192 kbs, but sound quality is not pristine as it is a vinyl rip).

2) I'm unfamiliar with the term rockism, so I'll discuss its potential meaning within the context of my own passion for music. Rockism describes my obsession to always seek out and acquire new music. My happiness is predicated on the continued growth of my music collection. The viral corollary to my rockism disease is my need to share new music with friends. I find that most people are amenable to some musically transmitted disease swapping. However, sometimes I run into someone who is not interested in new music. My rockism does not allow me to understand these people. They may enjoy music, but are content with whatever happens to be playing so long as it is pleasant and innocuous. They are not driven to constantly seek out new musical experiences. These people are a different species from me. I can respect anyone's musical taste, so long they are serious and passionate about their music. That is rockism and it is independent of genre or taste.

3) http://cms.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/24216.livedinbars.gif

4) To me, Sufjan is better than Deerhoof. However, I will qualify my response by noting that I have all of Sufjan's albums and none of Deerhoof's. I have not taken Deerhoof seriously. I downloaded their free song from Emusic and was unimpressed. I judged them quickly and harshly, but if someone whose taste I respected suggested that I give them another chance, I would be willing to give their albums a listen. There are many reasons to criticize Sufjan. I think the most potentially damning criticism relates to his seriousness bordering on pretension. I don't think I can make a reasoned argument that Sufjan isn't twee-pretentious to the point of inducing nausea. All I can say is that I have bought into the Sufjan project and enjoy most of his work a great deal. Therefore, I choose Sujan over Deerhoof.

5) One invite, please. borespoons at gmail dot com

A) Saunders
B) Matt
C) 23
D) Male
F) North Carolina

1) Les Savy Fav - 3/5, Les Savy Fav - Inches, Les Savy Fav - Go Forth

2) Rockism refers to the fact that some musical artists are seemingly more true to the art form of rock than others. Artists that are overproduced often fall into this category, whether it be true or not. For example Lo-fi sound lends itself to a positive reception in rockism since all aspects of music creation is controlled by the artist. While it could be argued that Bjork most certainly is an auteur/artist, the rockism philosophy stands in opposition. The use of synths and computers transcends (or maybe ruins) the humanity of her art. There is also a bitter undertone to rockism. The philosophy is probably born out of the desire of critics for things to be like the old days - before someone could play their instrument poorly only to have the producer clean it up beyond recognition of their failure. Rockism, in this day and age, should probably adapt as the advent of computers has moved from simple cleanup to a whole new avenue of creative output.

3) Anyone who posted any picture other than this one is wrong: http://www.richardavedon.com/images/editorial2004/newyorker/catpower_full.jpg
http://www.richardavedon.com/images/editorial2004/newyorker/catpower_full.jpg

4) I would choose Deerhoof. Not to discount Sufjan's talent as a songwriter, composer, and musician. Deerhoof just has the intangible element of being much more fun. Sufjan has made fun music to be sure. In fact, I really love the album Enjoy Your Rabbit, but this is his only electronic and most non-traditional album. I come back to Deerhoof to find the fun and amazing hooks through all the noise. I smile a lot more when I listen to Deerhoof. Their transcendental feeling is greater. I would also rather see a girly, diminutive Japanese bassist sing than a boyish, diminutive Episcopalian (no offense to the church of england) multi-instrumentalist sing.

5) I would appreciate 2 invites.

THAT WA S THE CONCH PIC I WAS GOING POST

Gentlemen, that Avedon picture of Chan (I've met her, therefore I use her first name) has already been submitted by prior applicants. We have made it explicitly clear that images could not be reused. Application denied.

in case anyone would like to give me an invite, I would gladly accept one. Mainly because something in oink is linking to my band's website and I assume that our album leaked and wound up there; I'd just like to log in and see this for myself, though.

"explicitly clear?" the guidelines do not state that pictures couldn't be repeats, and I haven't seen you say it until now. but for the record, I haven't seen anyone else use my picture.

Oh, hi, atomsforpeace! So how did your flirting with crabcigar go?

oh you know... we got a small cottage in the countryside where I can be free to write my screenplays while she keeps a small flower garden and a pet rabbit named Belle that we rescued one dewy morning.

did feigning interest in her fishing trip get you any action?

Not to be a bitch - but "explicitly clear" apparently means not mentioning that rule at all in the first post, or does that mean the new rule was mentioned in one of the ~1000 responses?

Also, explicitly clear is redundant. Based on this redundancy I move that my application be reconsidered. Suggestion: you should change it to Jenny Lewis pictures since all the Cat Power ones have probably been used.

http://www.rilokiley.net/gallery/albums/shows/2005/0221/022105_09.jpg

I wasn't out for "action," and fuck you for saying that. I take my job very seriously, and I absolutely would not consider using it to get some "action" with one of our applicants. Go back to your precious little screenplays, sleazeball, and leave the decent folks in our community alone.

For all of the sarcasm you use, you have an extremely hard time recognizing it.

haha i love when sarcasm meets sarcasm and no one understands

@skeet

I agree. It becomes hard to tell whether one of the smartasses actually got pissed off or if they're still just fucking around...

i'm pretty sure the admin was just messing around too... but then again maybe you ironically pointed his "reaction" out

tanks 4 the mammaries

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