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I don't know what that is, and no, it's not me.
I'm not sure what you want me to do, I don't see a "User Tools Page" anywhere.

― nalth, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, let me run an IP_Search on where the files are being DL'd to. This may take some time.

― Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm. This is very suspicious. The downloads are coming from the same IP address as your message board posts.

Are you positive no one else has access to your computer? Any roomates or family members perhaps?

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

Wait a minute... I think I know what’s going on here.

the real nalth is successfully downloading files using his new Oink membership while his roommate is continuing to post messages here, posing as nalth, trying to score an invite for him/herself!

I am pretty sure that is what is happening but I will have our Scandinavian branch confirm in the morning.

In the meantime....

ATTENTION ALL OINK ADMINS:

PLEASE STOP ALL MESSAGE BOARD OR E-MAIL COMMUNICATION WITH User_nalth IMMEDIATLEY. IT APPEARS AS THOUGH HIS ACCOUNT HAS ALREADY BEEN HACKED. DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH User_nalth UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

a) requested username
stiky (If not possible, Maphix - please
b) first name (no surnames)
Kiefer
c) age
18
d) gender
Male
e) geographic location
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Saliva - Blood Stained Love Story
Rise Against - Suffer & The Witness
Nelly Furtado - Loose

(Currently upgraded all my 128 songs to 192 after after 2 yrs of not knowing how to do it =] )

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
It's a loaded word, partly because it means a bunch of different things in practice—it's yay close to "racism" the way it's sometimes used. For various people, it's a term of praise for avoiding artifice or a description of unadventurous musical tastes or a word for just liking rock a whole lot. But it's also a potentially useful concept for thinking about the way people write about popular music, and the way people experience it. The trick is to figure out exactly what it means.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.statesidepresents.com/images/photos/cat-power-pic.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens (born July 1, 1975) is an American musician, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist from Detroit, Michigan. He is known for his lyrically focused and instrumentally rich songs that often relate to faith and family. He has enjoyed wide critical success in the United States. He is considered part of the folk revival in indie pop, but his influences are very broad, including electronica, the jazz of Vince Guaraldi, and the academic minimalism of Steve Reich and Philip Glass.

With all that being said...i just really think he is better and overall more talented.

5) How many invites do you require?
Just 1 actually. :)

For extra info: I currently reside at demonoid and i carry a well earned 3.10 ratio there, you can search me at "stiky" on demonoid to confirm that =] - Don't know if this will help at all, but just to show i do seed. :)

― maphix, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

[Repost] - Sorry, i forgot the 8 sentence minimum on the Rockism Subject.

a) requested username
stiky (If not possible, Maphix - please
b) first name (no surnames)
Kiefer
c) age
18
d) gender
Male
e) geographic location
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Saliva - Blood Stained Love Story
Rise Against - Suffer & The Witness
Nelly Furtado - Loose

(Currently upgraded all my 128 songs to 192 after after 2 yrs of not knowing how to do it =] )

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
It's a loaded word, partly because it means a bunch of different things in practice—it's yay close to "racism" the way it's sometimes used. For various people, it's a term of praise for avoiding artifice or a description of unadventurous musical tastes or a word for just liking rock a whole lot. But it's also a potentially useful concept for thinking about the way people write about popular music, and the way people experience it. The trick is to figure out exactly what it means.

Still, there hasn't beena clear definition of rockism, and I'd like to propose one—a very narrow one, to keep its meaning from bleeding too far out. Rockism, let's say, is treating rock as normative. In the rockist view, rock is the standard state of popular music: the kind to which everything else is compared, explicitly or implicitly. So, for instance, it's a rockist opinion that pre-stereo-era blues and country are interesting less in their own right than because they anticipated rock, or that Run-D.M.C. and Alison Krauss are notable because their virtues are also the virtues of rock, or that Ciara's Goodies isn't interesting because it fails to act like rock.

Now, the interesting thing about that formulation of "rockism" is that it's not intrinsically rockist to love rock, or to write about it; you can also mostly care about R&B or norteño or bubblegum pop but discuss them in a rockist way. It's hard to get around rockism, though, because it's built into the way people talk informally about whatever kinds of popular music interest them.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.statesidepresents.com/images/photos/cat-power-pic.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens (born July 1, 1975) is an American musician, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist from Detroit, Michigan. He is known for his lyrically focused and instrumentally rich songs that often relate to faith and family. He has enjoyed wide critical success in the United States. He is considered part of the folk revival in indie pop, but his influences are very broad, including electronica, the jazz of Vince Guaraldi, and the academic minimalism of Steve Reich and Philip Glass.

With all that being said...i just really think he is better and overall more talented.

5) How many invites do you require?
Just 1 actually. :)

For extra info: I currently reside at demonoid and i carry a well earned 3.10 ratio there, you can search me at "stiky" on demonoid to confirm that =] - Don't know if this will help at all, but just to show i do seed. :)

― maphix, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

Do not know why — keeps popping up.....

― maphix, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

lol yeah that's really weird?

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

What about me?

― justin_c, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

"The downloads are coming from the same IP address as your message board posts."
Hah, why even bother posting something like that when you know it's not true.

Well, it was fun while it lasted, sorry to see that this is not the real deal.

― nalth, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

meh.

as little precious indie meta art-ish pranks go, i've seen better than this fake indie music sharing thing -- and also worse.

― Mike McGooney-gal, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Thanx for that, Grady. Wow, loads of stuff here, I'd better start seeding first, though!
Thanks again.

― Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 10:07 (nineteen years ago)

--Hinder-Lips_Of_An_Angel.mp3 - 192 kps - FROM: User_Confounded @ 14:22 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
--Fergie-Fergalicious.mp3 - 192 kps - FROM: User_Confounded @ 14:29 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE

I would like to deny all charges against me.

― Confounded, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

User_LilGothCurtls6969

xd

― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

a) sportman3333333
b) akash
c) 20
d) M
e) CT, USA

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Daniel Powter
The Fray
In the End

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is when you are valuiing rock music at its best. It is the way you are looking at the music.It is between the listner and the writer. The idea of rockism slowly started around the 70s in England.Rockism sort of relates to racism in a way. When you have a rockism mind, you will always have your ideason what is good and what is bad. Rockism should be avoided, just like racism should be avoided. It is betterto be open-minded and try different things out. It like trying out new stuff, you will see what it is like. Ifyou just see one stuff, you might be missing out on other stuff you like better

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/02/15/pt_CATPOWER_ent-lead__200x346.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Surjan Stevens because of his lyrics that relate to the family and culture, etc. He a great
range of what he plays and that is what I like. I have heard a few of his lyrics and I
enjoyed them. The 50 state idea, i think it a great idea. The deerhoof's music is not suited for me.His music is everyone that can enjoy and that why I like him better over deerhoofs. He just
manages to get everything done. Waiting for the CT ablum :D.

5) How many invites do you require?

One please

Thank You

― sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Am I still able to post an application here?

― Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Please do!

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

a) Pappa Shango
b) Anthony Michael Samson
c) 15
d) male
e) Montana, US

1)The Pouges – If I shoul fall From Grace With God
Primal Scream – XTRMN8TR
DMB - Greatest Hits

2) rockism is the idea of making music through the musician their own creative freedom, rather than through pre-packaged music created by labels or merely for the pop of it. basically, music made for the music, and not to make a quick buck. there is argument that no music is purely made without any commercial thought processes behind it, and that all music has some form of produced aspect to it. but basically the term is for bands that don't go with synthesizers and pro tools to hype up their music, rather they perform on the instruments themselves as well as the lyrics, the band being a huge part of the creation of the music. the term is more for rock or metal bands, which is where the actual term came from. I believe the term also began to be in use in britain, where people began preferring this over pop music. think of rock bands in the 80s, and you'd get a good idea of what this whole movement is. pop music is the opposite of this.

3) http://myspace-541.vo.llnwd.net/00375/14/51/375041541_l.jpg

4) Hmm, I like both. Deerhoof has this continual beat that makes you want to nod along to it. It actually reminds me of an art exhibit I attented a couple of years ago called "Cloud City" by FriendsWithYou, where they had this background music to set an installatio they considered a playgound. I am a sucker for the guitar though, and Sufjan Stevens is a lot like the music I listen to. It's much mellower, and his voice compliments the music beautifully. Ultimately, I would probably go with Sufjan Stevens on a day where I'm being told I can only pick from these two artists. Then again, I could definitely find myself listening to Deerhoof on days where I need to vacuum the house. I'm not sure... I guess I can't decide really. They both have their themes and sounds that make them the artists they are. I can really get into the fact that they both have their own sound, and it doesn't quite remind me of other artists today- unless we're going to mix bands together to get their sound.

5) just one.

i really hope I can find out if I'm in soon!

― Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

wait, can I change number three?

http://trouble.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/cat%20power%20by%20shawn%20mortenson.jpg

― Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

ok seriosuly, this one is my answer for number three lol sorry for changin my mind.

http://www.nuyorker.com/fotos/cat%20power.jpg

― Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

sportman3333333 = please provide album titles
Anthony Michael Samson = APPROVED. Username and Password being confirmed now and will be sent shortly.

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Pash-

You're welcome! I'm going to DL that Arcade Fire/ Rapture/Strokes collab from you tonight!!!!!!!!!!

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

No Problem

Back in Black, (192KBPS)
Metallica
pink floyd the wall

All 192KBPS

― sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

hmmmm.

I'm still a little perplexed. Which Back in Black album and which Metallica album?

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry for the trouble and thank you for the reply

AC-DC - Back In Black (Atlantic ‘80)
Metallica - Ride The Lightning

hmmmm, did i miss anything else? ~Akash

― sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ok now it makes sense but please, in the future, proofread!

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Okay No Problem

I will wait now :D

― sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

OK coolz.

;-)

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

a) dgiraffe
b) david
c) 20
d) male
e) valencia, los angeles, california

1) Killers - Sams Town / Zero 7 - the garden / The Knife - Silent Shout
2) Rockism, is the belief that only the "sincere" artists are deserved credit. The lines are drawn between "real artists" who express themselves only as a means for self-release or self expression and those who are in it to "make a buck". It generalizes most of the 60s and 70s as the "lost golden years" and discredits much of the 'post-discovery' music. While I agree that music will never be the same/as good as it was back in the day (IMOP the overexploitation of sexiness in the pop world, and dismissal of it in the modern rock world) i do not agree with the belief that everything made to make a dollar isnt "good". When a blatantly commercial album such as "futuresex/lovesounds" comes out, in rockism it is grounds for dismissal as a legitimate piece of art, however, expressing ones need to dance or "bring sexy back" is just as a legitimate form of self release as many critically solid albums. Furthermore, it can mean something special to someone, even if that someone is unknowingly part of consumerist machine that recycles money and the same albums constantly. Rockism also disregards the new musics of the last twenty years (hip hop, trance, techno, post-rock) and many of these musics serve an important cultural purpose for different american societies. What this argument against new musics ends in is a strong importance of genuine artistry mostly focused on white male songwriters. I believe this is racist, basically saying that white people are allowed to "get it on, bang a gong" with critical recognition while those in the corners trying to escape their troubles "by partying/drinking bacardi like its their birthday" are stupid. All music serves a genuine purpose sociologically, whether for escapism, protest, or tradition. In conclusion, id definitely rather spend my money trying to support bands like lightning bolt than buy the new chingy single, but i dont feel the need to look down on people who do.
3) [image]http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/images/news/images/cat_power.jpg{/image]
she kind of has a linda ronstadt-silk purse thing going on in this one.
4) deerhoof. I may be a little biast as a former san franciscan. deerhoofs music is exciting and loud and experimental and new, like freejazz. It makes me really happy when a band can be a geographic reference point, (the san francisco noise sound) and also rise above being much better than that. Nobody has really got it quite as down in that respect of music as much as them, especially because they are loud and noisy. For me, any thing that blazes along the path that sonic youth blazed "pop music+dissonance+guitars=great" is super awesome music. Sufjan, and i think this this is just me, scares me. I know hes got this sort of cute thing going on, and everyones all gaga over it, but i think there is some alterior motive. 50 albums about every state, sufjan? thats too ambitious. So much that i get the feeling that he is going to try to take over the world, overthrow the government and start world war 3. That may sound a little crazy, and nobody believes me, but you will all see, hes a very ambitious young man.
5) Just one please!

― davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

oh sorry, i posted the picture wrong, here you go:
http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/images/news/images/cat_power.jpg

― davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Its cool, Davis. Dont stress out over it or anything.

You seem to have put a lot of time and effort into your Rockism essay. Where did you gather your info from?

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

i dont know, i just kind of looked up what rockism was (i was familiar with the idea but not neccessarily the term) and then just said a bunch of things i thought should be said (i have alot of built up hatred for rock critics, especially pitchfork ones. but thats a whole different story)

― davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

If you think Pitchfork is bad, try reading Stylus some time!

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

no thank you, i consider it a blessing that i have never heard of stylus. but i did just go over there and check out "Top Ten Musical Signifiers (Almost) Guaranteed To Make Me Fellate A Record Regardless Of Its Quality". what an arbitrary and weird list.

― davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

If You think Nick Southall is bad, try reading Dom Passantino!

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, proof that I'm over 18... well, that's kinda hard to provide over the internet unless I give out my personal details. Will this suffice? Notice the first name on the card and my beautiful writing.
http://img.waffleimages.com/4f6021bc0da4da85d475249132a5d1491a4623cf/DSC00113.JPG

― Erty, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ok that didn't work well, here's a link instead.
click

― Erty, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

stet- please make that the background image 4 this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, stupid goons ruining it for the rest of the internet :(

Please work

― Erty, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Erty - You are without a doubt 100% APPROVED!

(we love you too!)

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

it seems like a majority of music journalism is turning into lifestyle magazines for aging hipsters. consider me about to dig a hole in the ground with my copy of 'grown up all wrong', everyones invited

― davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Thats precisely why we have such a strict Application Process for our invites.

― Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

justin c:

1) please re-read the application guidelines at the top of the thread.
2) go back a look at what you posted.
3) you tell me if you are approved or not.

― Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

Anthony Michael Samson, your username is Gargamel's_Asshole

― Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

OK, cool, as long as I'm in!!!!

What is my password?

― Anthony Michael Samson, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

your password is: KKlYyUuUfff5566644DDDDDDssssss

― Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

holy s**t!!! i cant believe this is real!

i just started dowloading all kinds of stuff.

thanks Oink! I promise to keep a respectible ratio!

― Anthony Michael Samson, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 06:25 (nineteen years ago)

A)dthemora
B)dora
C)27
D)female
E)Crete Island, Greece

1) Thom Yorke - The eraser, Kristin Hersh - Hips and makers, Therapy - infernal love
2)Rockism is quite the opposite of pop music, in fact a criticism to popular music. Rockism is an ideology which supports musicians who make music for the music. Musicians who want to express their feelings, composers who compose authentic music.
Rockism is opposed to any kind of music is not genuine. That's why it's opposed to trip-hop for example, because it's hip-hop with any other kind of music, eg rock n' roll. That makes trip-hop not genuine, so against rockism beliefs.
Rockism mostly supports rock and metal music. That would explain and the term.
3) http://www.musicsnews.com/content_images/cat%20power.jpg
4)Deerhoof can give me the beat I need when I do other things. Helps me not to get bored when for example doing the dishes :) His music has that thing that gives you energy. It certainl keeps you awake.
Sufjan Stevens is more melodic. His voice is more melodic and "married" perfectly with the music.
I find them different so not easy to compare.
Do I really have to choose? :)
5)one

Thank you.

― dthemora, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's true: Deerhoof can give you the beat you need when you do other things. :) :) :)

― Confounded, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

@Confounded
Yeap! :) Happily music has many branches.
There are musics that are just upraise you.
Musics that can change the way you feel and even the way you think (who can doudt that whoever composer or musician can do that is a really great artist? :) ). I feel that way about radiohead. :)
Musics that are ruined with bad lyrics. Such as Therapy. I love Therapy's music but I don't find any meaning on their provocative lyrics. They don't shock me or anything, I just don't find any meaning.

As we mentioned Rockism above, I don't believe in genuine music but in genuine artists.
Approximately 6 months ago I discovered a band called MIG. It's a trip-hop group located in France. I liked their music so I searched for their album but I couldn't find them anywhere in Greece. After a lot of search I found the singer's mail. I told her that I want their albums but I don't own credit card to purchase their albums through internet. Well, she send me the albums from France without asking any money! If that's not genuine then what is it?

Excuse me for the irrelevant to that thread post but bands like these worth at least a mention, don't you think? :)

― dthemora, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

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