ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

idk, do we have one of these? i've been trying to up my style game recently and thought it might be good to have a thread to post stuff i like, get the occasional opinion, etc. open to all, anything from business dress to casual etc.etc. maybe i should just get a pinterest or something.

*i'd like this thread to be about actual clothes ppl are wearing or considering wearing, there's an ile thread if you want to talk about the menswear blogosphere or make fun of stuff.

anyway, i don't have much occasion to wear ties, but i saw this on sale and became sort of obsessed with it so just placed the order. i want to wear it at thanksgiving or christmas:

http://www.drakes-london.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/517x579/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/9/a9wb.55065.001_m.jpg

i like this etsy seller's ties:

https://img0.etsystatic.com/000/0/5912974/il_570xN.279574838.jpg

xpost wear it to an iggles game idk :)

I guess I need to wear a tie to my job interviews next week but just realised I only have wedding/party ties.

I need a fashion upgrade, I just feel like a schlub with most of my biz cas at work. I've always just gotten dockers to wear to work, because they're cheap and I've had trouble staying the same pants size over the course of my adult life. I never wanted to drop the coin on nicer pants because I knew in 6 months I would not fit in them. Plus I wear those dockers the fuck out. They are frazzled around the legs and the waist, all of them. Since I've been able to basically stay the same weight for the last year and a half now, I think it may be time to consider something better.

As for shirts, I have about 14 of the same kind of shirt, just in different colors/patterns. They are fine, but again, I've worn them the fuck out. Also, I have a bunch of mediums that don't fit as well as the few smalls that I have. I always buy them on sale, so it's hard to stumble upon the correct size, and I always seem to get heavily patterned ones, nothing basic.

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

Don't even get me started on my shoes.

Bottom of my shoes currently. el oh el

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5486/9458816502_677037dd49.jpg

I started wearing Dockers this year because I had problems splitting the seat of all the mid-range, Macy's-bought wool dress pants (Nautica, Calvin Klein, etc.) I had been wearing. It was a choice between spending all this damn money getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time or buying a new pair of pants for $35 a couple times a year. I'm pretty happy with the Dockers, but yeah, one of them has the makings of a hole in the knee already because my legs don't fit into the seats on my commuter bus.

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

Also, I sprung $150 for a pair of Ecco's a few years ago. They're comfortable, but they emit a horrible squeak when I walk across polished floors. Since I won't be able to afford another $150 to drop on shoes in the near future, fuck it, I'm just going to squeak everywhere I go.

I've considered trying out this service: http://hallmadden.com/ Seems like a good deal if the quality is there? In a year I would have a good shirt collection.

this is interesting. the guys who started it have a decent rep for their suits, i think. i don't like that you sign up for the service without ever trying a shirt--i think they should send you one to start sizing and let you assess the quality (if you've only been wearing s/m/l, go to a tailor or nice clothing store and get measured for your shirt size!). also it is all or nothing--you keep the three shirts or return them all. i assume that means they're going with pretty safe fabrics, colors, and patterns--fine if you're not picky.

getting them dry cleaned and mended all the damn time

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

I've had too many run-ins with shirt sizes to buy by anything but collar size measurement unless I can try it on.

agreed. i had a longstanding no s/m/l shirts policy that i recently broke for some cheap j. crew casual button up shirts for summer. they fit great through my torso and had enormous sleeves (which was not a problem since i only wore them with the sleeves cuffed).

how often were you dry cleaning your pants?

Not enough for them to actually be clean or unwrinkled most of the time.

It may just be the quality I was buying, but every shirt that I've got based on neck size has been voluminous everywhere else.

u need slim fit

yep

buying fitted shirts changed my life

Is there a medium fit? I need to find something between wearing a balloon with a collar and wearing a corset.

Try different brands I guess? Some give chest/sleeve measurements as well as collar size.

Maybe I just need a thinner neck!!

if you want to be super anal you can get a measuring tape and take some basic measurements on the best-fitting shirt you have to compare to web sizing info (or be even crazier and bring your measuring tape to the store too). i've taken to doing this with things like leg openings on pants.

i don't think that is super anal, i think that is just good sense. shopping online without knowing your preferred measurements is a complete crapshoot

SUPER anal is keeping your measurements in an evernote doc so you always have them available on your phone, not that i know anyone who does that

i bought a custom shirt from these dudes http://www.blacklapel.com have not recieved yet, will report back

the thing abt all the custom clothes sites is none of them really have the best style but we will see i feel like they should be able to handle a white dress shirt, itd b rad to be able to get some cool ass costom suits of the nets or w/e tho

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

yeah there are tons. do let us know about your experience w/blacklapel, jho.

i got a shirt made for my wedding at a mtm shirt tailor in boston (they basically follow the web model in that the sewing is done in hong kong, but someone measures you irl) and i was a little disappointed that the resulting shirt still had tons of billowing in the back when i tucked it in. kind of soured me on the cheap-ish mtm concept. i just bought an off the rack shirt from these guys - http://www.ledbury.com that fit me perfectly through the torso (which is kind of a big deal because i'm not a small guy and really don't need any fabric pooling near my waist).

got stuff from barneys warehouse dot com yesterday

this rag n bone unit

http://i.imgur.com/7QIMZdO.jpg

couple ties

http://i.imgur.com/jkO82ci.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ePZvwoP.jpg

a shirt

http://i.imgur.com/VzYvCYh.jpg

and these apcs

http://i.imgur.com/ZzP95cc.jpg

i feel like custom / MTM shirt sites have become a huge trend in men's online retail in the past 5 years or so, there are SO MANY

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 11:47 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya its a p amazing concept imho they keep yr measurements and then you can just order whenever, we will see re the exicuction

my menswear story is I have moths in my closet

bummer central

put some moth balls int here

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

lol

I've been wearing short shorts lately the prostitutes outside call me "legs"

ha!

i love that jacket, jho

agree & the liberty tie is p sweet too

oh man i know it's coming but i'm so not ready for the rehabiliation of light wash jeans

― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, August 7, 2013 12:08 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when u can get apcs for $80 maybe people just arent ready yet

tho tbh i think its already happened, im always here for you tho if you need to talk

thanking you all xp

yeah that's a sweet haul though I share elmo's suspicion of the chillwavey jeans

theyre so luscious im just gonna luxuriate in them shits

haha nah it's cool, i just don't think i'll be climbing into any dad jeans soon

feel like dad jeans are more abt the cut, tho obvs the color factors in too

i love the truly insane things in barney's warehouse like this coat.

yeah they carry a p funny mix of stuff

http://i.imgur.com/OqmFsIi.jpg

it's kind of sad to see things like that coat consigned to an outlet, like, i'm sure its designer was so proud of it

ok wtf is that

that shit is glorious

http://i.imgur.com/2WfRI7S.png

laughed way too hard at "business moomoo"

do we believe that style should speak a social language as in this thread? or can we have a little bit of "art project" as a treat?

there's a very painful period when you see guys start to pay attention to clothes and they start to dress worse than they did before they started paying attention to clothes pic.twitter.com/RWNGjiv6SB

— derek guy (@dieworkwear) December 18, 2022

style always speaks a social language either way, whether you are consciously doing it ot not ihibidtae

yeah i think thats right mainly social art project as a treat xp

maybe it's that always knowing it's a social language makes the art project part either good or bad i guess

also if you're going to color outside the lines you better not wear sad tan loafers with mile long shoelace loops

ha i noticed that too

its pretty funny this guy claims he representing traditional masculinity by wearing a suit when hes out there dressed like the joker

Or Two-Face

true

one thing about the guys newly into clothes who have no taste or social understanding is theyre peacocking like crazy just cannot chill in their cool new clothes, look how comfy and depressed he was in his old normal clothes, wasnt telling anyone about the little pictures of a billionaire on his tie

im going to have a stroke pic.twitter.com/r94Vk1t3Fc

— derek guy (@dieworkwear) January 3, 2023

almost shocking how unsexy this guy is for a fascist, there have been some sexy fascists

in this theory of fascism, peterson goes in the loser creep wing

I have been doing a lot of research and want to briefly share one observation: Nazism has weird loser creep vibes, but Italian Fascism has douchey jock vibes, fascism was at its heart a nerd-bully alliance

— John Ganz (@lionel_trolling) September 22, 2022

There was a store near me in Queens that sold those clownish suits and dress shirts in styles like that, always Italian-sounding makers I had never heard of

Like the guys in Curious George who have the yellow suits.

"What kind of meatball would buy these?"

no talkin bad bout the man in the yellow hat now

i recently bought these ott wesco engineer boots and i didn't have anything that i could wear them with, so a few months later i ended up with camo-pattern duck dynasty utility pants and a buffalo check flannel in ice blue, both from taylor stitch, and i wear the outfit to work and the boots, the camo and the pattern clash are something lol. def 'my job is boring let's see what i can get away with' vibes.

with notes of embarrassing masc midlife crisis in female dominated career. oh well!!!!!!

i feel like you absolutely gotta grow a beard and keep it luxuriantly waxed for an outfit like that

beard: check. waxing: great idea, will probably get into it!

lol, I remembered one of the shops from Queens (there were actually two, but this one had its own clothing label)

https://www.anthonyforesthills.com/

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1032/1561/files/SHIRT_2_720x.jpg?v=1614341196

maybe it's that always knowing it's a social language makes the art project part either good or bad i guess

― ꙮ (map), Wednesday, January 4, 2023 5:40 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is right! you have to be in conversation with *something*

xp The peacocking-menswear shop where I live was also called Anthony! Maybe they are all called that.

I am very pro throwing things together and just seeing what happens...I did go through a phase of wearing two shirts at once in my younger "does this work" days, I looked pretty stupid most of the time but it was fun. Obviously to be done with the right attitude to life.

some good advice from the fashion specialist https://www.anthonyforesthills.com/pages/fashion-specialist

do we believe that style should speak a social language as in this thread? or can we have a little bit of "art project" as a treat?

idk, what makes fashion fun isn't the part he's calling an "art project", it has nothing really to do with arranging colors and shapes, it's more theatrical. Clothes are an important vehicle for transformation specifically because they're so deeply encoded with social signals for something so easily acquired and shed. And that appeals to my playful sense, sure, but it can also be kinda serious? I just feel like, to achieve the confluence he's talking about between fashion choices and lifestyle/personality isn't making good on that transformative potential. imo what's more interesting than wearing clothes to articulate your personality is not to. The exciting part isn't being able to define yourself, it's being able to sidestep a designated or chosen identity, to constantly undermine yourself and step into new and unfamiliar roles.

Besides all that do we really want Jordan Peterson to disguise himself as a normal academic in the name of 'good taste'

If the guy's position is clothes should describe something about the wearer, i'm getting 'unhinged, possible sociopath, makes his living "thinking" but nobody asks to see the credentials' from Peterson's new look

all of that otm

uh oh i ordered my first filson item, a trucker hat :| . mission outdoor daddy realness is moving ahead and not all my inner voices like it, but fuck em!

they do make nice stuff

i joined like 4 filson buy / trade fb groups lol

ha nice

the hat is great - didn't think a trucker hat could feel "good" and "substantial" when worn.

there's this party we go to every year, it's formal dress but also kind of not, lately I've been going in more and more ridiculous outfits

this year I decided what I want to wear - I want to wear that stupid black and white checkered shirt and white cowboy hat that Garth Brooks is wearing on The Chase album cover. one of the most iconic dumb looks of all time, I think.

but I can't find the shirt! surely it must exist somewhere? all I can find are shirts with the album cover on it, sometimes checkered in the same pattern, which is kind of funny. but not what I'm looking for. where might I find something like this???

close… https://www.walmart.com/ip/Berlioni-Italy-White-Collar-Cuffs-Mens-Two-Tone-Dress-Shirt-19-Colors-Sizes/142990630

Quick google search reveals it's a vintage Mo Betta western shirt. Search ebay/etsy/poshmark etc for Mo Betta i guess. Looks like they're all equally ridiculous even if you don't find the exact shirt.

need to talk to this guy

Let’s get to the stories behind the albums and some things I have never even seen before! Join here https://t.co/h5tx2O7Ie2 love, g#GARTHonVINYL is ON SALE now. Pre-order YOUR limited numbered edition while supplies last pic.twitter.com/76cuPYMuJb

— Garth Brooks (@garthbrooks) April 12, 2019

holy hell those shirts are HIDEOUS!! I must buy a few

filson fb group scene report: these guys are kind of weird, definitely richer than me, somehow i doubt any of them are like regular hunting season types, i mean i'm also an outdoorsman fetishist but not straight. filing my flirtation with filson for 10 years from now when i finally live in the pacific nw and have a job that pays me significantly more than 45k a year.

after hating turtlenecks my entire life…. it’s time

It is NEVER time for turtlenecks, rock that below the neck V!

well i do that too

hey all, would anyone object to a part II to this thread? 10k posts feels like the right time.

Sounds good!

No objections here...

good idea

It is NEVER time for turtlenecks, rock that below the neck V!

Sometimes my wife and I have this conversation like, "do you want Chinese food" and the answer is like, "no, we had Chinese food last night" and then somebody is like, "you know Chinese people eat Chinese food every day."

I wonder how turtles feel about turtlenecks. Like, "dude I wear a turtleneck literally all the time."

- Bob Marley

let's take it over here guys: ils menswear and men's clothing part 2: 2023 until we all need stillsuits