how do you deal with lumberjackism in warmer climates? just sweat through it like religious wear in israel or goth wear in florida?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 11 February 2011 21:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yea i realize that it sounds like i'm hating itt
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
you wear short sleeved flannels and cut offs but then you end up looking like a skin head.
― peacocks, Friday, 11 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
it's also an LA hipster look tbh
― sarahel, Friday, 11 February 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
tbrr i don't have an inherent problem with either of these styles tbh, when they are well done they are classic looks but something about the preoccupation with brand heritage & authenticity -- and how the brands try to capitalize on it -- really rings hollow for me, idk
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 February 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
actually think norse projects is more fisherman than lumberjack
― mubarakclovetofu (cozen), Friday, 11 February 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
ok I had to google norse projects and doesn't seem really lumberjacky to me but omg I love the colors of these new balances which still remain my fav sneakers: http://www.freshnessmag.com/2009/10/21/new-balance-x-norse-projects-m670/
― ENBB, Friday, 11 February 2011 22:07 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/NH5ru.gif ja it's more fishermanny http://i.imgur.com/NH5ru.gif
― mubarakclovetofu (cozen), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
but something about the preoccupation with brand heritage & authenticity -- and how the brands try to capitalize on it -- really rings hollow for me, idk
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, February 11, 2011 4:32 PM Bookmark
In theory hertiage brands and well-made stuff should be a positive trend; the problem with it for me is that you know a lot of the guys buying the built-to-last filson jackets are probably going to put them in storage in a year or two when they buy the new must-have jacket.
― hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i guess lumberjack is maybe too specific for what i mean -- i guess it's more the outdoorsy workwear thing -- buffalo checks, red wings, oilcloth, alpine & fisherman sweaters, hunting caps, henleys, etc
xp yeah exactly h2
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I had this pretentious idea for a while that I was going to write an essay about how the bestmade axe (a much blogged about designer axe made in NY with supposedly very high quality standards) is the ultimate icon of the current zeitgeist
― hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
these looks aren't style or fashion
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lately though, I've been too drunk for fashion
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
the prep thing, otoh, annoys me because it's usually too close to home to really be ironic.
― hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:47 (thirteen years ago) link
stradivariaxe is ironic?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 11 February 2011 22:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought lumberjack style was to put on women's clothing and hang around in bars.
― Peter Pepsi (Abbbottt), Friday, 11 February 2011 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
the last episode of community telegraphed lesbianism by dressing them in flannel... did that sort of thing predate the python sketch?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 11 February 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost no I just meant the urban lumberjack thing in general, in re irony. I mean I know we're all so many steps of irony removed from irony at this point that we don't think in these terms, but irony does have something to do with the origin of that style.
― hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
but something unironic about the prep origin is bothersome?
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 11 February 2011 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i can definitely see how moneyed kids affecting embracing their legacy of privilege via prep style would irritate; that's not exclusively the case of course but it's pretty visible
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
could be the fact that both these current styles kinda flatter their own permanence -- whether through "quality craftsmanship" and durability or the idea that men can abide by "permanent style" which never changes
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Friday, 11 February 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Workwear/lumberjacks is fine as long as it doesn't start looking like a Halloween costume. Flannel, jeans, boots - fine. Flannel, jeans, boots, watch cap, $800 Mr. Freedom peacoat, leather wallet rein, artisanal axe - not fine.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Saturday, 12 February 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
boring white kids calling their harris tweeds & repp ties "crispy"
lol i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing. i like prep/heritage stuff as well as workwear. but it can't look like you're trying too hard. a lot of times it does..
what's funny about these blogs is.. with some of them.. a dude will post hundreds of pix of nice looking, expensive things and finally when he posts a photo of himself, it's like.. um how do you spend all your time obsessing about fashion and you don't know how to buy things that fit properly and put them together?
personally i pay most attention to the subgenre of blogs that are all trying to look like clemence poesy/charlotte gainsbourg/models from la garconne, and all own the same isabel marant boots (that i would buy, if they were available in my size, but they're not). it's not a bad look imo
― daria-g, Monday, 14 February 2011 04:43 (thirteen years ago) link
you know who i really like is the street etiquette guys. i wish they'd post more
― daria-g, Monday, 14 February 2011 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah those guys are amazing. they post more stuff to their tumblr if you havent already checked that out
― ouroboros shoal (diamonddave85), Monday, 14 February 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I do follow their tumblr. still needs more pix of Joshua because damn..
― daria, Monday, 14 February 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing...
got links?
― "multi-culturalism has failed" - a.wenger (cozen), Monday, 14 February 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
these are both super overplayed and mostly populated now by try-hards and bloggers
― max, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
you know what never goes out of style is a top hat
btw i dress "lumberjack" because those are the clothes my girlfriend picks out for me
today i wore a longsleeve henley top, grey hoodie, filson vest, jeans, boots, top hat
― max, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
A recent Apartment Therapy House Tour featured one of those painted-handle axes prominently displayed in a shot, as, like, a dining table centerpiece? So gross.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
/i follow a lot of the menswear tumblr blogs that do this kind of thing.../got links?
sure will look when I get home, on my phone at the moment. but #1 is ' how to talk to girls at parties'
― daria, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
somehow they don't annoy me as much as some of the truly dopey womens blogs that are all about big retail stores and their clothes often don't fit properly
note I have a lot of clothes from like j crew and such but I don't feel compelled to blog about constantly buying more.
also the lumberjack thing- i like it when it is like the uniform of the early 90s, that is always cool. but at the time I felt like a dork for buying flannel shirts from llbean instead of goodwill- cannot imagine people obsessing over the labels of any of it.
― daria, Monday, 14 February 2011 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i got a padded flannel shirt in pennys which is primark in the uk bc it was new years day and i was hitchhiking back from dingle and i was freezing by the time i made it to limerick and it cost €7 and i love it and wear it all the time. i only like things w/ mystical animals on it btw.
― plax (ico), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i saw some of his mystical animal shirts btw - p great
wait Primark is called Penny's in Ireland? I was not aware. I sort of love Primark for cheap accessories and tank tops. I am not ashamed. OK, maybe only a little.
― ENBB, Monday, 14 February 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
I kind of love this flannelhttp://www.ironheart.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=108&zenid=7e9f1d4d155d7838ed94309939362b34
But it's $350!
Yet when I go to the mall or look at llbean/Land's End/etc. no one is selling a flannel that looks half as good. All that patterns are smaller and old-mannish, the colors are duller and/or uglier. But I'd rather freeze to death (unlikely in TX) than drop $350 on a shirt.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8rmf1PKg21qbhnx1.jpgFilson Mackinaw Cruiser, $300“Originally designed to protect timber cruisers during long days in the woods, our rugged Mackinaw Cruiser soon gained fame for exceptional warmth, comfort and durability. It’s famed for function too, with 4 front utility pockets, a 3-slot pocket, 2 hand warmer pockets, an open inner pocket, and a full-width map pocket in back. Made of our thickest, heaviest Mackinaw Wool, a proven barrier against wind, rain, snow and cold.”
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link
puts calluses on your hands too i bet
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link
lol i mean
― max, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
A couple of years ago Gap and J. Crew were all about solid-color earthtone shirts (utility, safari-style, etc.) - first they started ruining them with epaulets then they stopped doing them at all.
It is surprisingly hard to find a casual solid color men's shirt in a good green.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i have a green corduroy shirt
― max, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread reminds me that my ma owes me a plaid shirt. I'm still on the lookout for the ever elusive giant checked 90's plaids
― call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/NH5ru.gif <----nice gif
agreed
― max, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link
tehres; another version of that i saw years ago, where theres another dancing guy and they have boxing glvoes on and they dance around and box and it ends with them hugging, it was called BoxingQueers.gif
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 15 February 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link
this is kind of cool for a 1950's plaidhttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7958/plaidx.png
― call me king bubbles and sound like a sheik sheik (CaptainLorax), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 07:02 (thirteen years ago) link
idk maybe i'm prone to overthink this sort of thing but i find myself wondering what roland barthes would make of the "fashion system" of menswear blogs
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Pretty sure anyone still on or around Mackinaw Island in February is wearing more than a wool jacket. Fuck a $300 in the ear.
― go peddle your bullshit somewhere else sister (Laurel), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
but laurel -- it has a map pocket; where else am i going to put all my maps? in my ipad case make of a recycled 1940s work apron? i don't think so
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
but add a beard, work boots, a chore jacket, and a watch cap and behold: you are still not a lumberjack.
haha i can't believe people do this
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I even own a Carhartt chore jacket but I had to google to figure what the term meant - I have never heard it.
― Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Thursday, 7 April 2011 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
I could see a normal person doing all of those except the beard, if they were working in the yard on a cold day or whatever. The beard is what takes that over-the-top and into "you had better be a professional waterman or something" territory.
― the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
oh sure, they are all practical clothes for getting hard work done. but the original post is about the lumberjack look as urban street style, which is just silly.
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, probably wouldn't mess with omre than two of those at a time then.
― the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link
more
i'll be honest. i have worn all of them at the same time (i hardly ever wear watchcaps though), but there's a matter of costume that makes this go from stylish to corny. like compare these two pix.
imo, stylishhttp://static3.slamxhype.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/pointer-jacket-3.jpg
in everyone's opinion, i'm sure, hella stoopshttp://images.nymag.com/guides/everything/urbanwoodsman/woodsman100208_560.jpg
― jaxon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
If you know what a "chore jacket" is, you don't rly need one.
Otherwise you'd just call it "my jacket."
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Possibly "my work coat."
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
ya. i had to look up what a chore jacket was and i got tons of workwear brands
― jaxon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i rock "urban lumberjack" ish all the time & i think i look p cute, but i agree its basically overplayed
― ban drake (the rapper) (max), Thursday, 7 April 2011 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
oh ha! i just took a picture of the last guy in that collage, a few days ago on spring street. same cardigan and boots, without the hat...
― phil-two, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Is that a carabiner in his belt loop?!
― Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
lol mw, please don't tell me you're surprised?
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
haha
― caek, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
All the rage w people who want you to know that they used to be bike messengers, before it was lame.
― Back up the lesbian canoe (Laurel), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
This reminds me of a story my dad told me about visiting NYC in '76. Being a hippyish ranger from Yosemite, he mostly wore jeans, woolen shirts and boots just like a certain segment of the gay population of Manhattan. He was really suprised that there were so many really friendly New Yorkers, given their reputation as surly, until my aunt, who was living there at the time, pointed out they were gay. Then my dad noticed that their boots were all impeccable and some of them ironed (?!) their jeans.
― Si tu parles, tu meurs. Si tu te tais, tu meurs. Alors, dis et (Michael White), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost speaking of overplayed style: bike messenger chic
― jaxon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link
when was it ever not lame?
― phil-two, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
like this, sheesh
http://blogs.reuters.com/oddly-enough/files/2009/06/bike-messenger-280.jpg
― jaxon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
haha. i see the first guy on this page around town all the time
http://www.fixedgearbikesarefuckinggay.com/fixie.html
― jaxon, Thursday, 7 April 2011 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
btw I am wearing black double knee carhartts and a flannel right this very second
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link
fuiud
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 00:27 (thirteen years ago) link
yes but you live in minnesota, not brooklyn
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 01:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i was also wearing thesehttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/3840570672_11f4507a1f.jpg
not cool
― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
to the tumblr & blog dudes who post photos of their outfits laid out on the floor: ugh stop why
to the guys who include their FUCKING FIREARMS in these photos: good lord wtf is wrong with u
― tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
enough with the italian tailoring already
― jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 14:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean it must be p cool to be a wealthy neapolitan and the clothes sure are nice but tbh i'll be glad once the menswear set finds a new obsession, kinda sick of looking at one billion blue blazers every day
― jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 27 July 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
camouflage, i guess? i don't hate it and i like that designers are looking to prints and patterns but tbh it's getting to be pretty worn down as far as masculine signifiers go
― i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
don't forget the whole camouflage-with-gold-embroidered-patterns-on-it thing
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link