Can we talk about mens' business dress?

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The other day I was wearing this tie that was slightly outside the norm -- it was this Pucci tie with kind of a wild-looking abstract pattern on it with a bit of a retro late 60s west coast kind of vibe, though the colors were pretty much in the medium blue range and not outlandish. This one kind of tactless co-worker is like "I don't really get mens' fashion. You guys wear these very conservative looking suits, and then your ties are really busy. How is it supposed to work?"

Well, how is it supposed to work? Is it better to just wear subdued ties that almost 'blend' with your suit? Sometimes I like the look of, e.g., a navy suit with a tie that has navy diagonals on it that almost appear to tie the jacket together.

That and whatever else you want to say about mens' suits, dress shirts, dress shoes, ties, etc.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 January 2011 19:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

Er, outside "my" norm, I should say. I didn't mean to suggest I was all alterna-tie.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 January 2011 19:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

one of the reasons i could never have an office job is that im p sure i would look like pete campbell in any sort of "suit" getup

plax (ico), Thursday, 13 January 2011 19:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think your co-worker does get mens fashion.

gr8080, Thursday, 13 January 2011 19:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Examples of Pucci ties, although kind of different than the one I have:

http://image.rakuten.co.jp/brights/cabinet/13/tieset-epucci-2-1.jpg

Cool looking, but maybe they just don't work that well with suits.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

More in the style of the one on the right, fwiw.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

i can see what you mean

but still, w/ a white/light blue shirt and a navy suit its still not that crazy

gr8080, Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

those ties go fine w/ suits? or at least my suits? business dress is abt making statements w/ subtle things - ties, cufflinks, the cut of your jacket, the finish of your shoes. distinction through conformity or w/e

fwiw i worked in p conservative enviornment (i-bank) & none of those pucci ties are remotely 'too much' like id routinely wear a p garish orange and navy hermes tie w/ some suits & never get a 2nd look

Lamp, Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Fuck it, here is the tie:
http://img713.imageshack.us/f/photo298.jpg/

TBF I was wearing it with a charcoal suit. Maybe it needs a navy suit.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

have a pucci tie and I think it only works with a black suit and plain white shirt. (dark charcoal may work but I don't have one)

As a rule I would say the more vibrant the tie the plainer the suit and shirt. My opposite to the plain suit and pucci tie is a prince of wales check (very subtle, with a red stripe), that works well with a white shirt and red tie, both have the same jaquard pattern in different sizes and orientation.

That said, normal business dress for me is jeans, liberty print shirt and cardigan. Occasionally with crochet tie, very occasionally with a tweed jacket. I keep a Hugo Boss charcoal herringbone tweed jacket on my coat rack in the office for visiting dignitaries.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

looks nice to me (and fine)

geronimo (cozen), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

As a rule I would say the more vibrant the tie the plainer the suit and shirt.

not sure if i agree w/ this - you have to be subtle but you its not like youd can pair a patterned tie w/ a grey flannel suit and sharp white shirt or something

details are what make menswear interesting imo

Lamp, Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

this is what i wear to the office:
http://cdn4.mattters.com/photos/photos/909119/ef966ec7f23441c3_moschino_plaid_suit.jpg

gr8080, Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://s7.thisnext.com/media/230x230/MAISON-MARTIN-MARGIELA-10-Men_62F4AAA2.jpg

have worn these pants iirc

Lamp, Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

As a rule I would say the more vibrant the tie the plainer the suit and shirt.

Yeah, don't always agree with this, although seems like the more vibrant the tie the harder it is to match with a non-plain shirt/suit.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's a truism that in his ties and, perhaps jewelry, a 'well-dressed man' is allowed some flamboyance and it only takes a cursory look at many a well-dressed Englishman to see that distictive ties can work with otherwise sober-looking suits. I wouldn't wear the Pucci ties w/anything other than a very simple suitcloth, though; grey, black, blue at a stretch or whatever summery linen colors you have and either match your tie to the suit or complement it. Seeing patterns like that or paisleys with a striped suit, for example, or God forfend, a windowpane pattern gives me a headache.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hmm, actually my charcoal suit has white pinstripes, though thin ones and not super strong. Still, that could be the problem. I never really liked white pinstripes, and glad my new suit is solid navy.

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

i have worn a paisley tie w/ a pinstriped shirt before

gr8080, Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

Too many lines going in different directions. I wear patterned ties sometimes with my chalkstripe suit but they tend to be dense patterns that suggest texture more than pattern if that makes sense.

Le mépris vient de la tête, la haine vient du cœur (Michael White), Thursday, 13 January 2011 20:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

I am confused by business dress; thankfully I never have to wear it.

Dans la Bot (seandalai), Thursday, 13 January 2011 21:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

me too. i only own one suit and its burnt orange. and its kinda nylon/polyester'y. the kind of thing that makes that swoosh-swoosh-swoosh sound from where the legs rub together when you walk..

no ties either.

phil-two, Friday, 14 January 2011 02:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

https://s4.postimg.org/fb3p8y6kd/Cra_Go_KXEAAd_Fgn.jpg

Seems legit.

This is quite interesting, following on from a report suggesting that not knowing the sartorial rules of the City ('no brown in town', etc) acts as a bar on social mobility.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/564c7bb6-711d-11e6-a0c9-1365ce54b926.html#axzz4JBsMOpCS

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/02/city-of-london-dress-code-brown-shoes-finance

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Saturday, 3 September 2016 11:20 (two years ago) Permalink


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