suncream, zits and wrinkles: rolling skincare thread?

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just got an email from sephora that they're offering a free "premium sample" of shiseido SPF 55 fancypants cream with any online purchase, if you enter "shiseido" at checkout. just wanted to post this as lauren seemed to enjoy her sample of this stuff, so might be worth ordering something to get big sample?

colette, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 03:28 (eleven years ago) link

if you can get to a store, i think you can get a sample w/out buying anything?

tehresa, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

Is this thread for facial scrub/cleanser/moisturiser? I have some awes knowledge that I want to impart.

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:50 (eleven years ago) link

go on then

electricsound, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 06:52 (eleven years ago) link

colette, as tehresa said you can get a pretty generous sample at the store without buying anything. the big drawback is that it's not in a hygienic little tube.

i do like it, and i'm going to keep using it at the beach or whenever i'm going to be out in the sun for an extended period of time and see what happens. if my skin doesn't go crazy, i'll probably buy it.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:31 (eleven years ago) link

i tried to by the avene eulage cream last night but the woman talked me down to the milder ystheal (i have no idea why duane reade employs a skin care specialist, but they do). i am kinda hoping retinoids will change my life as some people have really great experiences with them (gets rid of blackheads AND wrinkles!! at the same time!) but i guess i'll see.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:48 (eleven years ago) link

but the woman talked me down to the milder ystheal (i have no idea why duane reade employs a skin care specialist, but they do).

cracks me up

Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:49 (eleven years ago) link

i also have no idea why i listened to her? probably because she was wearing a lab coat?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:52 (eleven years ago) link

haha yes

Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 13:53 (eleven years ago) link

is this a logical train of thought?:

if you have fine lines and you get restaline or juvederm or some kind of filler to push them out would it make sense that those lines wont get much deeper (well not as fast as the natural progression) because your face doesnt crinkle in that spot in the same way when you laugh, smile, frown etc?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:49 (eleven years ago) link

"restylane", i guess

sunny successor, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

i think that makes sense but the idea of fillers still scares me

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

regular botox treatment is claimed by some to prevent further wrinkling for the reason that you mention. i think fillers are more for areas that don't move as much, but i'm not sure...?

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

hm. i wonder if there is anything i can do to prevent wrinkles if i go to gradschool next year. i will be working full time and going to school full-time and i expect that i will never sleep. i will probably look like i'm 40 after a year of this.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

Every day I express gratitude for the existence of sunscreen. I get a gradient darker just standing outside without it, and within a month I become Oompa-Loompa color.

Abbott, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

ladies & gent, what do you think of 'olay regenerist uv defense regenerating lotion spf 15'

i wanted a sunscreen + moisturizer & stole that from my mom but my bottle is long empty

the only other one ive tried is cetaphil spf 15 & i thought the olay one felt much more soothing ( i have v dry skin)

my followup question is, does spf 15 actually do anything anyway?

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

in the amount that you get from an application of moisturizer, probably not.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

so what is a good sunscreen to put on the face then? and should it go on before or after moisturizer?

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

i apply it after. neutrogena's for the face are good. you don't nec. need a super high spf, but you need to apply enough - about a teaspoon , i've heard - and reapply if you're going to be in the sun for a while.

lauren, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

I have the Oil of Olay 'daily defense' 30 spf moisturizer, and it does me right.

Abbott, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

i'm liking the olay "time delay" day and night creams, they have BHAs and seem to be moisturizing without breaking me out. it's SPF 15 which i figure is enough if i'm inside all day, but i just put the neutrogena dry touch stuff on today when i was cycling in, and i'm actually surprised at how un shiny i am.

i think maybe if you're a very shiny person (i am in the summer) one of the dry sunblocks on its own might be the ticket, when i put it on over moisturizer i'm pretty greasy quickly. obviously YMMV.

colette, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

that sounds perfect abbott! i thought they were all spf 15s. its not v expensive at all either.

what a great board!

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

the dry touch is pretty nice. it definitely has a matifying effect.

i'm on the fence about whether to buy the dr. brandt pores no more stuff. i like the sample that i got, but it's so expensive i don't know if i can justify it. it does really seem to minimize the pores. is there anything cheaper that works in the same way?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

linds, was totally thinking abt all the pore questions of old thread and okay okay here's my discovery (via my mom, who has been visiting since friday):

i know i mention aveda often but i'm pretty discriminating abt their products, as a lot are too much for me anyway, BUT holy whoa, they have these salicylic acid toner pads that are as shockingly expensive as they are shockingly effective. i started using them friday and they caused an initial and very slight uh swelling of major pore areas (plus it was really hot & humid out) but now my skin is so calm and pores so clean & diminished and happy! it is kind of crazy.

the thing is that i can't use other salicylic acid things b/c they're lotions or whatever and just too heavy, but these aren't causing problems! i will check back in a week re: these but so far i am amazed. and yknow my skin will break out at anything. i haven't put any other medication or zit treatment or anything on my face either while using these. so yeah, neat.

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

On Saturday I wore the neutrogena spf 70 and neutrogena glow sheer spf 30, which is probaby overkill.

Oh, and a hat.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

spf 70!!!!!!! damn

deeznuts, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

my seemingly bottomless pot of avon eye cream finally ran out. replaced it with boscia's enlivening amino eye treatment - yay! i've been wanting this stuff for a while.

lauren, Friday, 4 July 2008 20:47 (eleven years ago) link

I also bought spf 70 yesterday, prompted by my dermatologist.

bell_labs, Friday, 4 July 2008 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

yes so the neutrogena dry touch 55 is apparently completely useless against tropical sun and i became horribly burnt on my first full day in maui. after that, purchased coppertone spray 70 which was weird, and then found that the coppertone sport 50 actually works really well. however, i am peeling like crazy, and the skin right above my breasts and next to my pits is so incredibly burned it's scary looking. those two corners burned way more than anywhere else. the pain has gone away, but what is a good cream/treatment to reduce scarring/mottling?

tehresa, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:53 (eleven years ago) link

oddly, though, the ny sun feels like nothing to me now! i will still wear lots of sunscreen, though!

tehresa, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 01:54 (eleven years ago) link

Is this thread for facial scrub/cleanser/moisturiser? I have some awes knowledge that I want to impart.

-- Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:50 (Wednesday, 18 June 2008 07:50)

Such a tease... Tell all plz.

I'm looking for a moisturiser for the face that's good on mixed skin i.e. greasy in places, dry in others. It also has to let the skin breathe and if possible soothe after a shave.

For years I've been using straightforward aqueous cream but I'm not so sure it's good for my skin having tried something else this past while.

hyggeligt, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

T -- any of the soothing herbal combinations: aloe, comfrey, chamomile, calendula. Or Vitamin E. Keeping the skin/wound moist is the best way to reduce scarring, the vit E or aloe will do that.

Laurel, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

when i was in hawaii i got an awful 3rd degree burn (from hot oil, not the sun) but there were tons of aloe plants everywhere and so i just put that on it constantly. i have no scar from it (which is amazing, it was a huge burn).

bell_labs, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

guys i just made my first sephora order. now i know what youre all talking about with the samples you get. excited!

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

also found out there is a sephora right here in little rock. who knew?

sunny successor, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 19:13 (eleven years ago) link

I get little bumpy spots on my forehead, you can't really see them, but they still piss me off. I have very short hair, don't use gel, wash hair with Vosene and face with witch doctor face scrub every day... but they don't go away!

What to do?

Bodrick III, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.

tehresa, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

sunny i didn't know you were in little rock! one of my good friends lives down there

Surmounter, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

So hydroquinone is supposed to be evil and carcinogenic right? I am trying to fade a couple discolored spots on my legs (leftover from ingrown hairs) and I'm wondering if this is a bad idea...

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 00:50 (eleven years ago) link

it may be from heat/sweating? try to stay dry. or you may be over-cleansing/scrubbing.

If you're using all that stuff regularly then yes, I think that could be your problem. I would avoid using anything abrasive on them.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Bodrick, impossible to say, really, but start trying things. Is your pillowcase clean? Do you touch your face during the day? Drink a few glasses of water a day? Maybe try giving up caffeine for two weeks and see if that makes a difference, etc etc etc. Think of it as an exciting experiment.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:16 (eleven years ago) link

Or stop the witch hazel and try an exfoliant like the St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it, but it's not a bad start. (I don't want to give anyone sticker shock by recommending a $30 tub of something.)

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating. That apricot stuff has really large granules and I heard that's not so good for skin, being so abrasive. Also bs is so cheap it's almost free.

iirc, Colette taught me this trick!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 13:26 (eleven years ago) link

Is your friend as sweet as you, Surm?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, I love the St Ives for my face, but then I use corn meal on my body and that's even scratchier (I love scratchy). I think Julia told me about the baking soda! It's a Chicago thing, apparently. But the baking soda is too fine for me and I never feel smooth after using.

Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

Ouch!

lauren, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

No no all he said was he uses a certain shampoo and a witch hazel toner, that's not much at all -- in fact, only one facial product!

Ah, I didn't really read it and thought Vosene was some kind of American cleanser that sounded very chemical!

St Ives apricot scrub -- it's not fancy and some people don't like it

Why not? (ah I see that this has been answered) I think I can get that here and if it's good for blackheads?

Actually what is good for blackheads and sensitive skin?

A little bit of baking soda mixed with soap/cleanser does a nice job of gently exfoliating.

Wouldn't it burn the face off you? Ah, I see not.

I am like Laurel, I prefer something that has a bit of 'bite' but sadly that wreaks havoc on my skin. There was a very good exfoliator a while ago that I stole from someone, I wonder if I can still find it and buy more.

hyggeligt, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

I with Laurel on this too. I like feel like im taking a few layers of skin off.

sunny successor, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 14:59 (eleven years ago) link

has anyone ever had a lactic peel? there is some spa offering them for $50 for the month of july which is half of what it usually costs, but i'm afraid my skin is too sensitive. it's supposed to be less intense than a glycolic peel though.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:00 (eleven years ago) link

listen dudes, i like the scratchy and i like the feeling of taking off dead layers of skin, but liking it doesn't make it good for my skin. i only use baking soda on the face because it's sensitive. on the rest of me i would happily use a sandblaster, but i settle for some crappy scrubbing thing i got at marshalls.

let me add that i enjoy exfoliating so much that i bought the god-forsaken ped-egg, and it wasn't tuff enough for me! in fact, it sucked and didn't take off but the top layer of dead foot skin. not recommended!

La Lechera, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

lmao whoops

quincie i want to come visit you so we can do our skincare together and make like a 45 minute youtube video about it

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:30 (four months ago) link

I can introduce you to the ACID PEEL!!!

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:35 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

okay I tried the CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser and it made my skin feel REALLY dry and tight! So I am sticking w the hydrating cleanser, which I just bought a huge bottle of from CVS an hour ago! As well as a big bottle of Aveeno. I feel like I have gotten into the skincare groove.

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:48 (four months ago) link

insofar as I will prob just use these 3 products (cerave cleanser, aveeno daily moisturizing lotion, neutrogena ultra sheer dry touch spf 30) in perpetuity

I still have most of a bottle of the st ives apricot scrub but now i'm worried it's too harsh on my face and I don't want to use it

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:49 (four months ago) link

you can use the st ives as a body scrub for rough areas or your butt.

Yerac, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 22:09 (four months ago) link

yes. . . just ask a booty cleaner

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 23:18 (four months ago) link

Yeah apricot scrub is great for body, definitely avoid using on face.

still swear by korean/japanese skincare, but I've cut down my routine a fair bit after correcting the issues I had last year (mainly that chemical exfoliants just don't work for me!). Right now it's:
- double cleanse: Banila Co sherbet cleanser + Hada Labo foaming face wash
- Cosrx snail mucin essence, which I use pretty much as a moisturiser
- Sunplay skin aqua watery gel spf 50

I will recommend Klairs Freshly Juiced Vitamin Drop if anyone wants to try a Vitamin C serum, by the way. it's not as potent as other vit c serums but it worked wonders for me, and isn't likely to irritate as much as some other brands might. it's a korean brand but widely available (and affordable) online in the US and elsewhere.

Roz, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 07:12 (four months ago) link

Ok so Sunday Riley good Genes and Skinfood Light seem to be my holy grails. Now I just need a good sunscreen. Is the wAtery biote one as good as everyone says?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 12:03 (four months ago) link

I got the biore off amazon recently and it had a really strong alcohol smell that I don’t remember it having the last time I bought it

E, you might like this article about good genes and trying to find dupes: https://www.fanserviced-b.com/the-hunt-for-a-good-genes-dupe-17-lactic-acid-reviews/

Basically, she thinks using gg as a “special event” product and a cheaper lactic acid daily, is the way to go if you don’t have the $$ to drop on it regularly

just1n3, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:29 (four months ago) link

isn't Glycolic the main active in gg? that article talks at length about lactic acid rather than glycolic.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 15:57 (four months ago) link

They changed the biore watery essence formulation end 2017 I think? The reviews have not been as good, and yeah complaints about the smell.

The sunplay skin aqua sunscreen (also Japanese) has been my go to for the past couple of years. They have a few different formulas based on skin type, but all of them are super light and non-greasy.

Roz, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:05 (four months ago) link

Xp no it’s 5% lactic acid at a really low pH

just1n3, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:14 (four months ago) link

Roz, I might try that Cosrx snail mucin essence. Is it sticky? some reviews say so but I think people sometimes review the idea of something rather than the reality. i use that Pynkyang Yul toner and might get the mist version of it.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:15 (four months ago) link

The GG that's sold in the UK is a Glycolic based thing. I think it might be a different formulation.

https://www.spacenk.com/uk/en_GB/skincare/treatment/serums/good-genes-glycolic-acid-treatment-MUK200022775.html

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 16:17 (four months ago) link

Yeah it must be bc that link redirects to their home page and if I search gg this is the one that comes up and it’s lactic acid

https://www.spacenk.com/us/en_US/skincare/treatment/serums/good-genes-treatment-MUS300023215.html

Very weird. It’s raved about everywhere so I’m surprised I haven’t heard this before. Can you c&p the ingredients list?

just1n3, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:49 (four months ago) link

SUNDAY RILEY
Good Genes Glycolic Acid Treatment

INGREDIENTS
WATER/ AQUA/ EAU, DIMETHICONE, GLYCOLIC ACID, SQUALANE, CAPRYLYL CAPRYLATE/CAPRATE, PPG-12/SMDI COPOLYMER, POTASSIUM LACTATE, CETEARYL ALCOHOL, PROPANEDIOL, STEARIC ACID, GLYCERIN, PPG-24-GLYCERETH-24, BIS-STEARYL DIMETHICONE, OPUNTIA FICUS-INDICA FRUIT EXTRACT, SACCHAROMYCES CEREVISIAE EXTRACT, CYMBOPOGON SCHOENANTHUS OIL, PEG-100 STEARATE, GLYCERYL STEARATE, HYDROXYETHYL ACRYLATE/ SODIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYL TAURATE COPOLYMER, CETEARETH-20, CAPRYLYL GLYCOL, CHLORPHENESIN, XANTHAN GUM, SORBITAN ISOSTEARATE, POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE, PHENOXYETHANOL, CITRAL, GERANIOL, LIMONENE

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:58 (four months ago) link

& you can get The Ordinary 10% lactic acid with pepperberry in the UK/EU so it can't be because of restrictions on LA.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:01 (four months ago) link

That’s a totally different formulation. So weird.

just1n3, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:18 (four months ago) link

really weird considering how much people love it in North America.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:24 (four months ago) link

jed, the cosrx snail mucin is a little bit gooey and syrupy, but dries down pretty quickly - definitely not sticky once absorbed. It's very soothing and hydrating imo, but I can see how others might not love the texture.

i don't know why it's marketed as an essence though, it's closer to a gel or something.

Roz, Thursday, 5 December 2019 02:20 (three months ago) link

“ The Sunday Riley Good Genes Lactic Acid Treatment (which is still available to buy in the U.S.) was pulled from shelves in the UK at the beginning of the year due to its lactic acid content. The Scientific Committee of Consumer Safety law states that products must have a pH level greater than 5 to be sold in the UK and EU.”

just1n3, Thursday, 5 December 2019 08:01 (three months ago) link

I just ordered a small bottle of the infamous biologique recherche p50. Think I might try those garden of wisdom lactic acid pads mentioned in the gg dupes article next.

just1n3, Thursday, 5 December 2019 08:36 (three months ago) link

I partly gave up on the ordinary and just went to my doc and got an rx for tretinoin/stieva-A (generic retin A) and clindoxyl, which use at night after washing my face. Still cleansing with Avene gentle cleansers. I use a Hado labo hyaluronic serum and the Ordinary Squalane for moisturizer. It’s definitely improved my skin after a month+ so that’s cool.

Though I’ve worn an spf tinted moisturizer for years or used mineral makeup, I’ve always had a bit of a reaction to it - I have yet to find an SPF I like and don’t react to :/ Canada has different rules for approving spf so options are limited... I just want to protect my skin dammit! Will keep trying...

obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Friday, 6 December 2019 13:58 (three months ago) link

I have a new bottle of The Ordinary squalene and couldn't remember what I was supposed to use it for. Moisturizer it is. One day I am going to do a deep dive about asian beauty products. I am going to be within walking distance of a large japanese grocery/drugstore for two months soon and want to be prepared. I started looking at the reddit thread on it and saw 50something year old man on there with such nice dewy looking skin

Yerac, Friday, 6 December 2019 16:39 (three months ago) link

one month passes...

So, I am trying to revamp my routine a bit and try out a bunch of new things. I got the Kose Speedy Cleansing Oil, Mizon black Snail All in One Cream and some konjac sponges. I don't think I need a new cleanser. I have too much stuff I need to get through anyway (cerave, perfect whip, alpha skin). There is a Face Shop near me and a place that has a bunch of Hada Labo with testers so one day when I am prepared to focus I want to try to compare some of the other oil cleansers and moisturizers.

I am also interested in some of the MIssha stuff I see come up a lot. But I have some of the L-Ascorbic Acid Powder from The Ordinary I should probably start using (mixed with the squalene oil I had not clue what I was using it for).

I am also really interested in Tretinoin but need to use up some of the retinoid The Ordinary products first.

Yerac, Monday, 13 January 2020 03:19 (two months ago) link

oh wait, I did not get the mizon black snail thing. I got the COSRX Advanced Snail 92 All in One Cream. This snail stuff is confusing.

Yerac, Monday, 13 January 2020 03:46 (two months ago) link

forgive me for being a 3 yo about it but i find the whole snail phenomena gross and hilarious

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 03:56 (two months ago) link

i should i find out what studies I can participate in where I just put random shit on my face.

Yerac, Monday, 13 January 2020 03:59 (two months ago) link

When I was a kid I used to help my mom take the eggshell membrane out of eggs so she could put it on her face.

Yerac, Monday, 13 January 2020 04:02 (two months ago) link

wow

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 January 2020 04:47 (two months ago) link

xps re Missha, I have this & can strongly recommend it. Really nice coverage and light.

glindr jackson (gyac), Monday, 13 January 2020 06:12 (two months ago) link

Yeah, I might splurge on a time revolution thing from Missha. That brand seems to constantly get very good reviews.

I think I am going to get the Skin Aqua spf 50 gel too (rec'd above). I try not to have too many products at once around but I am trying to have a lot of spf around all the time now (in my bag, in the bathroom, by the front door).

Yerac, Monday, 13 January 2020 20:12 (two months ago) link

The Ordinary’s Buffet serum is really good, and it was even better at 23% off when I bought it :). Skin definitely feels smoother and softer and just looks overall better.

steer karma (gyac), Monday, 20 January 2020 20:53 (two months ago) link

i finished a bottle of the Buffet but didn't feel any way about it. If it was on sale again, I would probably pick it up but I didn't love it like a lot of people do.

I do like this snail stuff a lot though.

Yerac, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 04:24 (two months ago) link

Looooove the Buffet but it has turned out to be a bit too dry for winter weather so I added one of their moisturizers--I forget which one. Something I don't love but I want to use up.

I put Aveeno body lotion on my face for YEARS and it was the only thing that didn't burn my skin, and now if I do give in to the dryness and use it, I get breakouts the next day. (It still doesn't burn me though.)

Though I’ve worn an spf tinted moisturizer for years or used mineral makeup, I’ve always had a bit of a reaction to it

I completely gave up on sunscreen for my face. It all burns like blazes. I wear floppy hats while gardening & at the beach, instead.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 20:19 (two months ago) link

I cannot be at the beach without a hat and sunglasses. If it's too choppy to get in the water without a hat and sunglasses, I constantly have my hand shielding the sun and squint until I get headaches.

Yerac, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 21:24 (two months ago) link

Wearing a hat saves me SO MUCH fatigue and sun stress. Just having the sun's rays not hit directly on my head is amazing.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 21:27 (two months ago) link

Agree
I’m out there with an umbrella if I have to.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 January 2020 22:16 (two months ago) link

People who enjoy laying out in full midday sun are a mystery to me

just1n3, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 23:53 (two months ago) link

I can handle it on my body but not my head & face. I've noticed in the past few years that I find it really fatiguing, which I don't remember happening when I was younger. I used to spend a lot of time outdoors but it's been a while, I guess.

Speaking of aging I thought I was having hot flashes for a while, and it's possible that I was, but they seem to have been exacerbated by stress, because I quit my job and they've stopped. I think? Also I skipped my period for like 5-6 months and had OFF THE CHARTS breast tenderness (I spent most of the summer wondering if I were pregnant but too avoidant to test it, also it didn't seem likely bc I have an IUD so w/e but the symptoms were just weird) and then bled for two weeks straight, which made me go to the doctor where they said nothing is wrong, that whatever it is, I'm fine. So this is going to be fun.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 00:05 (two months ago) link

Oh dang this isn't no boys allowed. Oh well. Sorry, anyone who didn't come for the menopause diaries.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 00:06 (two months ago) link

People who enjoy laying out in full midday sun are a mystery to me

― just1n3, Tuesday, 21 January 2020 23:53 (yesterday)

I am this person but I live in Scotland so I take whatever sun I can get. Also, I have psoriasis and the sun has a magical effect on it.

What does the snail serum do?

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 00:29 (two months ago) link

It's really soothing and rehydrating. My wife bought a toner from a Korean skin-care importer, and somehow won a three year supply of a 10-step luxury Korean beauty routine, including three brands of snail mucin. I use them one of them shaving, or after being out in harsh weather. The texture's endearing and very snaily.

rb (soda), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 00:56 (two months ago) link

ok, sounds good.

how on earth do they harvest it?

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 01:28 (two months ago) link

Ostensibly by letting them crawl on special screens in a dark room, but I mean...

rb (soda), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 01:47 (two months ago) link

the snail stuff isn't that pricey considering I went into sephora for the first time in awhile and was surprised how all skincare seemed to be $40+. It feels very nice on.

re: being in the sun. I really like the beach and water activities and the laying out is an unfortunate byproduct. Especially, if I go with people who want to stay all day at the beach and I don't want to be the person that makes people leave. I just spent 6 hours each day of this 3 day weekend at the beach and I am exhausted but I was enduring the length for other people who were super stoked regardless of the weather. Like jed mentions some people live for the sun.

Yerac, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:17 (two months ago) link

I’ve been using the Biologique Recherche p50 and it’s pretty good - not mind blowing - but I think I need the hardcore 1970s original formula bc the regular version doesn’t even tingle a little bit

My skin issues right now (the same ones I’ve had for ages)
Closed comedones that won’t surface around my chin and jawline
Broken capillaries across my cheeks
Big under eye bags
Sunspots

My actual skin *feels* really hydrated and smooth though

just1n3, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:34 (two months ago) link

I was just in the store checking for decently priced mineral sunscreens before ordering online. Banana Boat has "reef safe" ones but they still had avobenzone in it which was really tripping me up. I finally found one of the Banana Boat spf50 kid/baby ones that was mineral decently priced like $7 for 6 oz. Going to give it a try.

I still have bad dry skin around my mouth issues that started with the retinol. I think I made it bad again by using spf lipbalm and since I am allergic to like 95% of lipbalms/lipsticks i think that set it off again.

Yerac, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:45 (two months ago) link

Mine does too and that's the thing. The surface and texture is good, maybe very good, but eyebags and sagging jawline etc are pretty much unfixable other than surgically.

xp

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 02:46 (two months ago) link

Jawline thing is the thing I would do were I down with plastic surgery, which I am pretty sure I am not

mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 04:01 (two months ago) link


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