ils thread for general menswear and men's clothing ish

nvm, found them, poler, not much of a jacket game there

I like this sierra designs one http://www.sierradesigns.com/product/mountain-parka
although again super light, not a parka parka

sort of like a field jacket, that one.

p happy with that "public school" parka the brand name of which we discussed itt, been wearing it a lot. coats get boring, you need a few coats.

i stopped by Neiman-Marcus the other day and they were letting Canada Goose parkas go (relatively) cheap, perfect storm of spring on its way and fading fad

So, the most prominent new menswear store in Chicago is closing (Haberdash, big sale happening), and, along with Four Pins folding, it made me wonder about a menswear bubble. If these $350 work shirts and Red Wing boots and such really do last for decades, then it makes sense that there would be a surge of buying without a follow-up surge to replace all these great Filson/etc clothes bought in 2009-2015.

If I ever pay $350 for a work shirt, congratulate me on my promotion to C-level or winning the lottery.

four pins always felt like a p shoestring operation to me. feel like all you read is about how menswear is booming.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/25/10827426/mark-zuckerberg-closet-exposed

Has anyone tried Jack Erwin?

http://snip.ly/2JeK?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Sniply&utm_content=GQ#http://www.gq.com/story/meet-jack-erwin-designer-dress-shoes-for-200

I'm skeptical, but I did recently shop for dress shoes in the $200 range and was surprised at how little there is -- most stuff is either cheaper and the quality is not great or considerably more expensive.

The styling looks decent. I sort of question how these young bros have any expertise in shoemaking, and it seems like there are about 1000 companies run by 25-year-olds who claim to make high-end menswear for half the price by cutting out the middlemen.

i don't think they do have any experience in shoemaking--they source from portugal, sell direct, and use decent, but not top-end materials and construction method.

i believe they use a blake stitch instead of goodyear welting if you care. meermin will do goodyear welting for about the same price.

I bought some Jack Erwin bluchers about a year ago—my first pair (and still only) of high-ish-end shoes. I love them, but I don't have much to compare them to. Mine are blake, but some models are goodyear-welted. Customer service was great.

If something happens in the next few years and I can more easily afford Aldens or Allen-Edmonds, I'll go with those, but if, as I expect, I'm in approximately the same financial situation, I'd buy another pair of JEs. I also looked at Meermins. Charles Tyrwhitt is another option in the ~$200 range.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/25/10827426/mark-zuckerberg-closet-exposed

― service desk hardman (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 01:43 Bookmark

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lmao

Just want to reiterate that Bonobos sucks. My slacks are already wearing out at the crotch seam after about ten wears and two drycleans.

OTOH v happy with my Ledbury V-neck, which was $70 in the winter sale.

http://www.ebags.com/product/ebags/tls-professional-slim-laptop-backpack/249582

I find this delightfully utilitarian and it will likely be the replacement for my now-ragged bail-out-bag which I have finally worn holes into. It's five times the price but I think I'm ready to move on from the ballistic nylon & velcro "range bag" style.

ebay is still great for shoes! I get allen edmonds regularly for about $70.

how regularly do you buy allen edmonds?

Daily

i saw this guy the other day and thought of that article about big soft oversized armani stuff

http://f.cl.ly/items/0p2G3l1d0A312d081U1b/IMG_3853.jpg

i like the 'weatherbeaten sofa fabric' vibe he is working

those boots are probably not right tho

any tips for an inexpensive slim fit suit for a wedding (mine)? tried Express and that's been the closest thing so far, but i just couldn't find a pair of pants that fit my weird lower body, and i think the lightweight material (wool?) didn't help.

considering ordering something from asos to try on, but it seems like i'd have to get pretty lucky to get a good fit, or else do a lot of sending back.

Where do the pants not fit, the waist? The seat? A little tailoring is pretty much expected with a suit.

And what's your price range?

i'm a fit dude but have always had mutant calf muscles and big thighs + butt, so yeah, it's hard to find pants that are not too loose in the legs but that i can also button comfortably. so do i get something where the waist fits and have the legs tailored, or vice versa? sorry to be an idiot about this, i've avoided ever buying a suit or getting anything tailored until now.

oh and i think my fiancee would appreciate it if i kept it to $200-300 if at all possible. she's been scouring ebay for dresses and objects on principle to me spending more than her on a suit.

so do i get something where the waist fits and have the legs tailored, or vice versa?

the most important place for the pants to fit is the seat. waist can be taken in or let out usually by a couple inches. legs can be tapered to whatever you like.

jordan suits cost more than dresses! it is a drag but unavoidable. suitsupply is basically the douchiest place on the planet but their shit is generally down to earth and versatile and well-made, i have three of their suits that i wear fairly regularly and has held up.

yeah it's not really a fair comparison. i would say while you *can* spend 200-300 on a suit, you shouldn't expect too much from it. if the fabric felt light or weird or something, well that's because it was 200 dollars.

Jordan, if you're relatively inexperienced buying suits, your best bet is a dept store like Lord & Taylor or Nordstrom. I don't know if you can quite get below $300, but you might be able to do something decent for $400. The guys in those stores know how to fit a suit, you get the alterations done there usually free, and they can also suggest shirts and ties that go well with the suit.

You might also try Jos. A. Bank -- not the trendiest suits but the quality is pretty good for the price. The only problem is they have those obnoxious 2-for-1 deals, so I don't know if there's an easy way to buy one suit cheap. My brothers' wedding party had to buy Jos A Bank suits that came in a "stretch" wool, which is not something I'd normally wear but it was fine and probably suitable for hulk thighs.

If you're really insistent on $200-300, you might try Macy's, but just know that at that price point there are certain significant quality differences in construction and material.

Finally, a lot of these places give you an extra discount if you open a credit card, so there's always that option. Also you could try negotiating with the salesmen a little - they work on commission in dept stores and they may have a little flexibility.

Suits don't cost more than wedding dresses.

Suits are so annoying to buy. The whole thing from having to deal with a salesman, trying on so many things, getting shirts/ties, the altering, the waiting for your suit.

The one suit I have I bought at Jos A Bank about 8 or so years ago. It's just horrible, the fit sucks, despite what the guy selling it to me kept saying. And he picked out a shirt that was just bellowing, even after alterations. Fuck that guy. And now it's the only suit I have and it's way too big.

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Me IRL

Suits don't cost more than wedding dresses.

― AlanSmithee, Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:56 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh i missed wedding dress in the original post. there's a huge range on wedding dresses tbh, certainly possible to find one for less than suitsupply prices.

xp yeah that's basically all the suits I bought at Men's Wearhouse back when I was in the military and none of us enlisted guys had any clue what we were doing. They all disappeared over the years, like I don't even remember throwing them out or whatever, I suspect they may have just gotten left in closets while I packed up everything else.

I haven't had a proper suit made in years. There's a Knot Standard showroom right up the street from me, I'll probably go there when the time comes and I can't find anything better to do with my money, like put it in my daughter's college fund or buy literally anything else that comes in under $600.

did u know men's wearhouse is a pun?

mens wherehouse more like it cant find the location

And I feel like I should have a nicer one in case I lose my job/weddings/funerals. Was thinking about this place once since they are local http://propersuit.com 850 for the cheapest, but I have no idea if it is worth that.

The one suit I have I bought at Jos A Bank about 8 or so years ago. It's just horrible, the fit sucks, despite what the guy selling it to me kept saying. And he picked out a shirt that was just bellowing, even after alterations. Fuck that guy. And now it's the only suit I have and it's way too big.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 2 February 2016 12:01 (3 hours ago) Permalink

They offer different cuts now like p much every other suit maker -- they have a slim (i.e. normal-fitting) suit and an extra-slim (i.e. slim) suit. My suit really wasn't bad considering I paid like $250 with the group discount (whole groom's party wore same suit).

might want to look at used suits my friend got married in a beautiful prada unit he got for like three hundo

jordan suits cost more than dresses!

― adam, Monday, February 1, 2016 8:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

wow there are air jordan suits?? where 2 cop

I thought about suggesting used suits too, but you need to know your measurements and a little bit about how a suit should fit. If someone can go with you who knows more, you could try consignment shops in well-off neighborhoods -- sometimes you can luck out. Most important thing in the jacket fit is the shoulders bc that's pretty much impossible to change, and after that probably the length. If it's a little too baggy it can be tapered.

if it's possible (location and cost) I'd really suggest just going to suitsupply. you're much more likely to come away with a pretty well-made, well-fitting suit. the napoli starts at $399, plus tailoring.

wow there are air jordan suits?? where 2 cop

― 龜, Tuesday, February 2, 2016 12:20 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwEPH_iIgAAfSRB.jpg

if it's possible (location and cost) I'd really suggest just going to suitsupply. you're much more likely to come away with a pretty well-made, well-fitting suit. the napoli starts at $399, plus tailoring.

― chinavision!, Tuesday, February 2, 2016 12:43 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy wears and enjoys good suits on the reg i honor his advice^

if your legs want a different size suit than your torso, then the cost might be more like $700, which might be out of budget. I also have this problem. $700 gets you the opportunity to mix/match pants & jackets of different sizes, and gets you unlimited alterations.

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it's true I'm wearing a suit right now and it feels great

hes crazy for suits and who can fault him really!

it suits me

I've avoided suitsupply so far because I don't like the way the suits shown on their website fit the models -- jackets too long, pants too thigh-hugging. Models are also just douchey looking and maybe that colors my perception. But they have a location really close to my office, so maybe I will check them out next time I need a suit and see if I can find something I like.

everyone hates their website and marketing! but they have a pretty good product. But for us guys with big thighs you really might need to do the... purple line? or something? but the thing where you can get separate pants/jacket. $700 is not cheap, but it's not bad for a well-made & well-tailored suit. I just wish they offered pants w/pleats.