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next time im in asia i will get us all dolphin tuxes custom tailored - send me yr measurements!

gr80 is in hawaii!

i think a lot of people think black tie is a lot more formal than it is, as well as the fact that there are many 'festive black tie' events which encourage variation, but regardless -- it's going to depend ENTIRELY on the individual event. if gr80 is going to dine at an ambassador's house or will be receiving a prestigious award, of COURSE he should wear a full proper tux. but if it's not so formal as that, chances are he'll be able to improvise something suitable out of stuff he already owns + a few new versatile garments.

-- elmo argonaut, Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:51 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i agree and i also dislike the formality of black tie for men. even though i've been lucky enough to go to "festive black tie" events for the most part, even if it were a bit more stringent i'd be tempted to fuck the haters and experiment.

"festive black tie" is a dire phrase

even though i've been lucky enough to go to "festive black tie" events for the most part, even if it were a bit more stringent i'd be tempted to fuck the haters and experiment.

lab coat is the new cardigan?

well i think festive at a lot of places means "festive black tie"

it does where i work. you say festive, but half the crowd shows up like they're at the met. the other half fuck around a little.

lab coats otm

see, our gala was 'festive' which meant brightly colored dresses and suits, but no tuxes.

though i reckon that has something to do w/ the diff btw B4M and B¢B¢

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surmounter just because it says 'festive black tie' doesnt mean that you can go around having sex with haters

lolll

yeah teh maybe you're right, maybe it's mostly suits. black tie doesn't have to mean tux does it?

to be a woman and slip into a black dress, oy

Pre-Tied Bowties: Why Not Just Wear Sweatpants?

imo black tie usually means going around having sex with waiters. or catereres. hollinghurst otm.

i think it generally does.

what becomes difficult is interpreting festive for women! or even black tie. does this mean cocktail or gown? i once went to this law dinner that was black tie, but was told it was not really a gown event. so i showed up in a very nice, but definitely not super formal lbd, and all the women were wearing gowns. i felt silly.

or festive: does this mean cocktail dress or a fancy sundress? surm, you don't know how easy men have it!

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good point, i never thought about the potential for confusion there. well when ppl call and ask me what festive means, i generally say cocktail. but there are always the women in gowns

black bath robe, samurai sword

puffy ski vest

fwiw it looks like there are plenty of reasonably affordable tuxes on ebay

leotard, gold medal

YES

black swimsuit, white beach towel

though to consider it for a moment, most of these ebay tuxes are probably formal rental inventory

diamond choker

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skin of downstairs neighbor, bow tie

black leather harness, clerical collar

last feels more business casual tbh

sweatsuit, tap shoes, 'scream' mask

hello sydney!

accountants visor, lavender speedo

beekeeper's suit, spats

dinner jacket is a good look

not always appropriate tho

tear-away track bottoms, arm in a cast

guys i've come a long way in 4 years but still i am wondering:

pre-tied adjustable bow ties: tacky or no?

because i have one i gotta tie myself, but the pre-tied ones look soooo much more neat+crisp.

it depend on if you are wearing it with a cardigan.

i maintain my firm stance against pre-tied bows

fwiw i still don't think a cardigan is a capital black tie offense (in the absence of other options)

The less out-of-the-box-ness of a real tied tie is part of its appeal, grad.

Not that you should slack on trying to be precise and stuff but just like of course it's not EXACT.

I want to master Bayard Rustin's DGAF knot

http://i.imgur.com/wOAR5vM.jpg?1

well that doesn't seem like it would be very hard