i love style needs to get their hair did

Well it helps to have A neck.

Where short haircuts are concerned, people without necks really get left out of the conversation.

that's pretty much exactly what my hair looked like when i had it super short (it's flat as the tires of my neighbor's bike) and it was fun for like a month
then i felt depressed

and i have a neck. i can't imagine how people without necks feel.

I've had p short hair with a fat face and p short hair with an angular pointy face and I like my fat faced short hair better (but that may be bias re knowing what was going on inside my brain during the angular, pointy chin era).

I think it's worth trying at least once. I've been thinking about cutting my hair short again mostly because I get so annoyed by it when it's long (as it is now).

jenny you should grow it out long like super long
i don't really get it when people who COULD have long glorious hair choose to have high maintenance short hair instead
short hair is MORE work!

Let's trade.

you have no idea how happy this would make me

I just hate the way long hair looks on me tbh. I haven't had it past my shoulders since HS because when it starts to get below my chin I feel weird.

Short hair is low maintenance for me. I wash it once or twice/week and that's about it. Although long hair is p much the same, except I brush and comb it more (as in ever) and sometimes I put it up or stick things in it.

I actually bought a hair clip from Sephora today that is working out really well. It's low profile but holds a lot of hair, although it's been so long since I've had hair long enough to use one that it took me about ten tries to get it right.

I kind of like the choppiness of the pic on the right above along with the little wisps of softer hair around the face, though it's way too textured in the pic. Used to have my hair short 10-12 years ago and have been pining for that a bit, but I think my face has sagged since then which may not work out so well...

Abbott, I have seen some great WDYLLs of you with short hair that were sassy and beautiful.

This is the best fat/short hair picture I could find. This is VERY OLD DO NOT JUDGE ME FOR MY FASHION CHOICES. I post this just to show that it can be done.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8I22gUZwqiI/TpTjAQJtQvI/AAAAAAAAAhQ/OxP6HpUC5U4/s800/DSCN2333.JPG

And yeah, I made that skirt out of some jeans and a hippie store wall tapestry WHAT OF IT???

that picture rules in every particular

it most certainly absolutely does.

and i just love sunny and beeps.

About 10+ years ago I got my hair cut in a choppy style with slightly longer bits at the front. Very hard to get right esp when I didn't really know what I wanted. When I came out my friend told me I looked like Zoe Ball which at the time was NOT the look I was going for :(
Btw I just GISd "zoe ball" choppy hair to find a pic (unsuccessful) and pics of Abbott came up!

A+ feline audience in Jenny's picture

Ha thanks! That's my cat BFF. She's still with me although she's older hell now (that picture is about 10 years old).

i never knew your hair was so short!

Btw I just GISd "zoe ball" choppy hair to find a pic (unsuccessful) and pics of Abbott came up!

haha holy shit! with short hair and a shiner no less!

Y'all are very nice btw. I am trying a new salon, just bcz it is called
XANADU
I should probably not dare to go but maybe they will make my hair look like a dream that came through a million years.

if there is singing and dancing at this salon, i will be impressed

hopefully choreographed by the always baffling Kenny Ortega

omg @ Zoe Ball GIS! Also has ENBB! hah

also, there's a hair salon in Toronto called Grateful Head. They served me a glass of wine when I went. <3

lol it does? What did you put in? When I do it I see Abbott and LaLech but not me. haha, too funny

I have high hopes for Xanadu the Salon.

wait what? who is zoe ball? why does my picture come up?

Zoe ball is an english radio/tv personality who used to be married to norman cook aka fat boy slim. I don't know why you and abbott are coming up with GISing her hair but both pics are from the girls short hair thread from here.

agh
bad

this one comes up for me, does this link work?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/%2522zoe%20ball%2522%20choppy%20hair/expatrica/IMG000345.jpg

Oh yeah, lol. It didn't when I tried. Weird! esp since that's not a link from ilx? idk. Man, I loved that hair for approx 2 weeks until it started getting bushy and not lying flat etc.

I think I want to dye mine red tbh. The upkeep is too much though and blonde roots on red hair is NAGL. I NEED CHANGE.

yeah I think some girl might have added your hair pic to a folder for inspiration? Look at that URL!

Red hair is AGL always! But yes, the roots bring the sad.

I've had various shades of red over the years but not in a long long time. I'd probably want to do Lohan brownish red before she turned into one big NAGL but I'd be too nervous to do it myself and salon color is $$$. That said, single process color is a lot cheaper than highlights, right? Maybe I could do it afterall. Hmmmmm.

i used to dye my hair a bright copper red at home and it always looked super awesome for about 2 weeks, then like shit for another 4 until i did it again. there's a point where the hair just won't hold the dye anymore.

fun for a while though, and made me feel good.

erica, what's the longest you've managed to go only washing your hair every couple of days? i have the same as you - fine, lots of it - and started washing my hair just 3-4 times a week a few months ago. the first couple weeks are HARD - my hair looked so gross - but bc i work by myself (no one had to see my grossness) i was able to persevere and it's totally fine on day 2 now. your hair does get used to it, although it might be harder to do this with short hair? anyway, my hair is so so so much more manageable now, less frizzy on the no-wash days, and OMG i love not having to spend 25 mins or more washing, conditioning and drying my hair every morning.

i bought some tresemme dry shampoo for the first time - it does help a little, although it seemed to me that the effect actually came through later in the day: it didn't seem improved at all when i first applied it, but when i got home from work i noticed my hair looked washed and had a lot more body in the crown than normal. also, i read somewhere that a good thing to do is apply the dry shampoo directly after you've washed/dried/styled it, then reapply the following day.

My colour lasts about 6 weeks at ends and 8 weeks at roots - yay Elumen! Just cut off all the formerly bleached hair so hoping I can do 8 weeks all over - my only issue are the roots. But I get mine done professionally now, just couldn't hack it the other way anymore.

Uh, honestly? One day. I've only ever skipped one day and by the end of that day I'm dying to wash it. I think I could get behind trying out what you're talking about if it were long enough for me to put up on the no wash days but it's not. Maybe I'll give it another try but idk if I'll be able to, sadly :(

no, i totally understand - i mean, i only started doing it this year because i couldn't stand even half a day of unwashed hair. i think not being a heavy smoker anymore also helped (no smokey hair). i only get itchy-head on day 3 of not washing now.

maybe winter is a good time to try this, if you have cute hats you can wear indoors to work?

Dry shampoo does take a bit because it's blotting up the oil...it doesn't happen immediately unless you really work it into the part/scalp w your fingertips. If you just sprinkle it on and let it sit there, yeah, it's gonna need time.

I usually use baby powder for this -- is dry shampoo different/better in some way?

I've never bought any b/c cornstarch works okay for me but I as I understand it, you can get dry shampoo in tints? So it blends better on dark hair.

ENBB, when my hair was about your length (chin length, right?), I couldn't stand not washing it. That was a weird length for me, plus I would break out where the ends of my hair touched my face.

Shorter I can wash once a week because my hair is so fluffy when it's clean that it takes a few days to get grimy and look normal. Longer I usually do 2-3 times, depending on what I've got going on in my life. Pro tip - I wash my bangs every day.

So, asked my stylist to change up the colour so it would last longer, and she reminded me it was semi-permanent. Haha. So, I was happy to switch to permanent and she used exactly the same colours, which I really like. She said they would last longer and be 'slightly richer'.

But the permanent version came out pretty different and looks orange-y to me. Probably only seems like a huge difference to me, and no-one else, but, you know, hair paranoia. It was too late in the evening to do anything about it but she suggested she could re-do the roots slightly darker (since they're where the light bounces off and it looks orange) if I really hate it in a couple of days. In a couple of days I'll be travelling for 10 days. I could juuuust about fit in another salon visit tomorrow but it would be v inconvenient.

Is it acceptable to get the roots darkened after 2 weeks when I get back? And regardless of when I go, should expect her to do the root colour for free? I paid for highlights which you really can't see with this base colour, so I kind of feel like I should get the correction free, but don't want to come across entitled - I guess the first time a stylist tries a permanent version of a colour on a client, s/he doesn't know how it will go exactly.

I really like the stylist and always love the cut.

this probably happened because most semi-perms are deposit only, while permanent colors lift a bit and then deposit color.

i think, and this is after years of not asking for something to be changed and then regretting it, that you paid good money to have this done and your hair should look as you requested it, not orangey. she should fix it for free. if she's been dying hair even a short time, she should be able to tell what a perm color will do.

esp if she knows your hair!

Yeah :-( I'm like you and really hate requesting changes. I'm a bit happier with it this morning and am going to have real trouble getting to the salon today so I will probably live with it for two weeks (lol - this has to be the ultimate first world problem - 'my hair is infinitesimally more orange than I would like, I will have to *live with it*). Then I'll decide whether to go back.

It may be that when she said 'it will be richer' she was telling me it would be lighter and I should have said then 'how different will be colour be?' and got clarification.

Live and learn. I think it's reasonable to ask if she'll fix it for free. Just have a contingency plan in place if she won't (so agree to pay, or say that you'll just wait until you're due for a cut and color anyway).

I'm glad the short-term color problem was easy to address, however!

Perhaps you could call her and tell her that you're not currently satisfied but you have to go away and you'd like to "take her up on her offer" when you return? That would be my mode of attack - I hate asking for things too, but better to have it known in advance!

I let my stylist cut my hair finally after growing it for 2 years, and it feels so short. Hits my shoulder if I pull on it, but the ends curl up so it hovers mid-neck. It was past my armpits! But all the hair I bleached in my DIY days is now gone, so my colour should last longer. But I want my long hair back :(