i love style needs to get their hair did

OHIO bitchez all the way. JENNIBETH 4 LYFE.

I'd comment on the substance of Kate's insults regarding ILS as the popular girls or w/e, since I'm pretty sure many/most of us were equally outcast and bullied and miserable...but I think, in hindsight, that ALL JUNIOR HIGH GIRLS ARE MISERABLE, so I'm not even sure there's any cred there.

I refuse to nitpick details when someone calls me an asshole. Whatever, so you think I'm an asshole. Enjoy that.

Yeah, I mean I'm sorry she feels that way but I'm on the record as being pro-Kate and if that's not working out for her that's okay. I do hope she feels better about things soon - not like has a change of heart about ILS mean girls but just feels better in general. ILX blowups are unpleasant to be involved in.

She's never really been my favorite but being called out individually by her on twitter and told to fuck off was the last straw imo. She's awful and that's the last I'll say on the matter.

in other hair news: my new go-to up-do is high ponytail, hair-coloured sock with toes cut off, spread hair over and kind of pouf it out, secure second hair-tie over it (tucking in as many of the ends as possible) then pinning resulting bun down a little bit.

Clever!

In an act of desperation, I got my hair cut at a chain store in a mall in Florida last week and it turned out awesome. Who knew?

I am having a hard time visualizing Justine's updo! Then again, I am stupid with updos, though I really should figure some out given that I have longish hair these days.

Sock? What?

ENBB come visit Chicago. I've got a $5 off coupon for the Supercuts in my building I'll give you if you do.

ha i should have just posted the youtube vid(s) that inspired it! hang on, i will try to find them

I think she means she's sort of using the sock as one might use a Bump-it like to make the bun bigger and fuller and give it more shape? I don't think you would see the sock once the 'do was done.

interesting!
i can't wait until my hair is long again. it's getting there! i am a slave to my hair dryer though, i realize, again and again, but especially on saturday, when i just let my hair air dry and it was all curly and nice for an hour and slowly but surely became a frizzed out mess as the day went on and into the night. hairclips and bobbypins thank u 4 being a friend.

Hahahaha omg supercuts. When I first lived on my own I used to get my hair cut there because it was the only place I could afford. I think I'd be a little scared now. This place was a couple steps up from SC, I think. Still surprising but it was just too long and big and I couldn't handle it anymore.

I do want to visit Chicago though!

it's a cross between this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGrlY3SqlcU

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I13J7ArHTkM&feature=relmfu

my hair is too layered/short for the sock bun to really work (i can't tuck it in) but i realised that the sock worked great as a sort of hairpiece to give more volume/shape to a bun (instead of the big hairy thing the first vid uses). plus it's a good use of unpaired socks.

sorry to bring up something old but i am confused because has kate ever posted on ils and was that an issue? i don't recall there every being any style-kate conflict. weird. i don't know if this is explored elsewhere but hmmm.

pretty sure she hasn't, she has just decided that we're gross and frivolous and not feminist enough bc we talk about hair and makeup etc.

for someone who is always blaming every rxn to her on sexism, she sure seems to hate women a lot.

I think she posted on my poll about how to go about quitting the haircolor, but I don't remember animosity from any quarter.

yeah i thought it was 'funny' that she singled out this 'gang' since the ILS women (apart from me, i can't fucking stand her) have been nothing but openly supportive of her.

i'm not a fan either but i don't directly interact with her so idgi.

Justine otm.

daria, this is a good demo of a pin-curl set, I think!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lMz4CZllso&feature=relmfu

I actually love that masonic boom is still finding something to bitch about on ILX.

Many xps: damn, I'm from Toronto, I'm not even sure which states are Midwest. :P I can't stand her, so I love it when she self-bans. She needs serious mental help.

And to bring the frivolous talk back - pantyhose! I keep all my hairbrush hair & stick in pantyhose toes. Makes what ladies used to call a "hair rat," a very useful bump.

You know I've been on ILX maybe six years now and all I've heard from Kate is poor character judgement, bitching and whining all the while blaming it on carrot cake. She needs to permaban herself for good for her own sake. Maybe she'll have some time to think about how it isn't the 90s anymore and she isn't a cute chick in a touring band anymore and to let it the fuck go.

Seems to me most of us on ILS are asking for help which I think by default ruins any chance of being uppity.

And that midwesterner comment did seem squarely aimed at Laurel and only comes off as jealousy that she's wallowing in her own shit while Laurel is out there making her life fun and beautiful.

Also the SSRI comment from someone who could be the before poster for zoloft? Cmon.

and just ftr, laurel's hair is absolutely gorgeous and her updo skillz are quite amaazing.

Blaming it on carrot cake - hahaha! I love that expression.

Last night I actually read the thread that gave rise to her off-board comments and while I think there was a point to be made originally re: the display name callout (and some comments in response had some unexamined privilege issues), I am far less sympathetic to Kate now. I mean, explicitly bullying ENBB and then creating this weird midwestern strawwoman as an off-board response to perceived sexism is just gross on so many levels. And if the SSRI-addled hair-and-makeup bitches comment was for Laurel, who was entirely uninvolved in the underlying thread, I just don't even.

So, I guess if you're reading threads where you might get a mention, Kate, you've alienated an ally with your boorish behavior.

yeah, sunny otm: when i first started posting here in 2007 i remember feeling really sorry for k8 because it seemed like she was being picked on, and i even remember coming to her defense a couple of times. but then i started to notice that she would take any little thing and turn it into this personal sexist attack on her. but worse than that, i noticed that many times when someone would try to be supportive or communicative with her, she would attack them too. ppl with a martyr complex just can't be dealt with effectively and are better off being ignored.

re hair: i bought the giovanni shampoo tza uses and i'm wondering if it's the same as the trader joe's tea tree oil shampoo, just with their rebranding??

started writing an email to jenny and then part of it was

>dunno why i want the link because i'm sure it's more of the same that's been going on for 10 yrs

sooo maybe i don't want the link after all. kate hates everyone at some time or another. unless they don't post much. (hello!)

justine, i heard that the tt oil shampoos were the same, iirc.

i just found a photo album that's all lol college and i frequently had the same hairstyle as now. (or lack thereof, really.) at least i lost the 90s clothes and dark lipstick.

If someone could point me in the direction of that thread id be grateful

It's the Unfinest of Display Names thread. Ctrl-f "vagina."

I haven't used giovanni in ages because I've been cheap but my two newest favorite bargain hair products are the tj's nourish shampoo amd whole foods' herbal mint conditioner (the shampoo is also great, but not as minty/clarifying as tj's tea tree oil)

xp (urge to change my dn to "ctrl-f vagina" now.)

hahaaaa

ATTENTION: I'm doing the hairband roll thing! I have to wear a flowered wreath/circlet thing tomorrow, which calls for curls. Put it up dry, gonna sleep on the thing and see how it goes.

How did it go Laurel?

My salon hair colour fades really fast these days. I use 'colour-friendly' shampoo and it's still fading after only six weeks - bits of grey poking out everywhere, not just roots. What can I do to minimize this?

Hm the next day was too humid. My hair kept a tiny bit of wave but mostly it was all gone within a couple of hours. I probably curled it too loosely, also. Didn't pull the loops tight against the headband. Will do next time.

Might work better if you start with damp hair, too.

ljubljana - my color fades really fast, too. My stylist's solution is to go darker so it at least fades to something attractive.

Standard color fade avoidance techniques include not washing your hair every day, staying out of direct sunlight, avoiding pools (or wearing a cap). I usually don't wash my hair for a couple of days after the original coloring, although I have no idea of that helps.

And maybe you need a different brand of dye? I'm guessing it's like anything else - different formulas work better for different people.

No pool for me, but I do wash my hair every other day - have tried to reduce, but then I feel like a greaseball. Yes, next time I go in I'll ask about brands. I love the colour she uses now so would be a shame to switch, but needs must. It doesn't so much fade to a lighter colour uniformly as just disappear altogether from certain random strands, leaving them flat out grey!

i'm thinking of doing something with color, maybe highlights in the front?
no idea, have never done anything but all over bottle color

Highlights can do wonders for a person. I tend not to like flat one color hair. Not talking just blonde highlights but like lighter brown or red ones - whatever just something to break it up a bit.

that's what i need -- was thinking bright gold/orange/red burst around the face and top to make me look less like a corpse

Are you going to DIY or go to a salon?

prob salon -- i want it to look good!

Oooo if you don't have a salon in mind I highly recommend where I go and my specific stylist.

Meanwhile, talk me out of buying blue clip in hair extensions from etsy.

link!