i love style needs to get their hair did

ooh i want a dress like that

So do I, apparently, since I bought the pattern! Haven't made it yet, though.

I think visible zippers are one of those things that are going to look terrible to us all the microsecond the trend passes, but that's just me. Laurel, I was more concerned that you might advocate such in a vintage garment, not that you like it in the appropriate setting. That black dress is very cute. Except for the zipper. :p

Did I just unironically use an emoticon? I think I did. Huh.

I think exterior zippers will be with us always! I have multiple dresses from the '60s that use them, some of them even have extra brightly colored plastic zippers to stand out more. I wouldn't call them "elegant", but they're reasonably attractive sportswear/day dresses. One of them has approx a 22" waist so I haven't been able to wear it for a few years, but I hang onto it in everlasting hope, nonetheless.

Laurel, you are a seamstress goddess!

I did consider the Vogue reissues you posted; the one I like best is the first one, but it looks better in the drawing than in the real-life picture. Hang on, lemme find it.

http://voguepatterns.mccall.com/filebin/images/product_images/Add_2_Small_Thumb/V2401.jpg

oh shit too small

http://voguepatterns.mccall.com/filebin/images/product_images/Add_2_Full/V2401.jpg

hmmm, yeah - I's chop a few inches off the sleeves and the length, heh.

I's! Oh, my typing is going downhill.

I like a wider/deeper V; show a little clavicle, y'know? The shirtdress style really suits me--mr. husband calls them "Kate Dresses" and is now adept at calling them out when he sees them in a shop window or department store.

I think you are totally right and I should go for more of an evening fabric (satin or the like). I can bust it out again for holiday parties in December. Weather permitting, we'll be out in the back yard for the actual event, so the longer sleeves in View B are what I'm thinking.

No idea yet who is going to make this thing. My mom is an outstanding seamstress and would totally do it (she's retired), but she lives far away and I don't feel like we could pull it off without fittings. There is a seamstress here who reworked an off-the-rack dress for me for my brother's rehearsal dinner and did a great job; thinking I'll go to her.

Finefine I am very excited for you and hope you have a fabulous, fabulous time (I don't doubt that you will)! You will be an absolutely stunning bride! Srsly cannot wait to see pics.

OK, back to hair, then?

I need to find the right sort of hair band so I can try that no heat retro curls thing. Sounds like a trip to Sally's Beauty Supply is in order.

I'm p sure you could get stretchy Goody headbands at yr local drugstore, but beauty supply places are always fun.

I scored a pack of 5 or 6 stretchy headbands at Sally's for a buck ninety nine. Downside (or upshot?): some are pink and purple, and they are all SPARKLY

tza will take the purple ones.

will totally set her up

laurel is right.
my, i have just spent an hour looking at fascinators and i am overwhelmed. sigh.

I need to find the right sort of hair band so I can try that no heat retro curls thing

I have tried this, and it works ok! I have wavy/curly hair, though, so I think that helps hold the curl. And I did it with damp hair.

I have wavy hair that holds curl OK with help from products, so I have high hopes!

I am going to try this tonight I think even though my hair is bob length now. I am predicting it is going to look crazy 80s crimped.

I am on one week of using bar soap shampoo from chagrin valley. I probably should be doing the vinegar rinse after, but that is too much trouble. So far I think I won't go back to regular shampoo.

Is there a sewing thread? I want Laurel to talk more about sewing techniques. I am in the middle of trying to decide on a new machine to purchase.

Yerac! Yay! I hope the shampoo works out.

I've never done a vinegar rinse, btw. I just use the shampoo bars like regular shampoo.

Do you condition after with regular conditioner? I have been doing this. I got like 6 different samples, trying to figure out which ones I like the best.

I do. I use cheapo Suave coconut conditioner in the summer because it's light and it works fine, and then I totally offset that cost savings by using some crazy expensive megamoisturizing Bumble and Bumble stuff in the winter because Chicago winters are desiccating. I only wash my hair a couple of times/week, and only condition my hair after I wash it.

Love vinegar rinses!! Best-feeling, softest hair of my life. Takes color out, though, so do not use on dyed hairs. Only use it on the undyed ones.

Yerac, so sorry about being AWOL this weekend. Did you decide on a machine?? I'll start a sewing thread as soon as I come up with a sufficiently punny/kittenish title.

Love vinegar rinses!! Best-feeling, softest hair of my life. Takes color out, though, so do not use on dyed hairs. Only use it on the undyed ones.

Did not know this about colored hair. Valuable info!!!

I was born with dyed hair.

I am still stuck between 2 machines. I like having less choices in the functions, but then what happens if I get really into quilting or something and need 192 stitches.

so, ladies of ILS, i thought you might be interested in knowing exactly what masonic boom/karen d. tregaskin/kate REALLY thinks of you/us:

There's this little GANG of nicey-nice Midwestern women on ILX who talk about haircuts in arch tones, they loathe me*, the feeling is mutual
13 hours ago

You know that awful awful 1950s housewife tone that, like, sites like The Hairpin use? They all talk like that.
13 hours ago

They're like those little girls named Beth or Jennifer who made my life hell in 8th grade, but ripped to the tits on SSRIs.

*i'm sure this could be construed as shit-stirring, and in a way i guess i am deliberately doing that, but what got me to me is that the ilx women that she is referencing here have come to her defense on numerous occasions and been nothing but gracious, so i'm hoping those women will think twice before bothering to do so next time.

**for those of you unaware, this is from her twitter account, referenced in a clusterfuck thread. a twitter account which she uses 2 of her ilx handles with, so hardly distancing herself from here.

That's too bad. I actually really like Kate and thought I told her as much somewhere on here.

I have the strangest feeling I resemble those remarks.

I mostly resent being misclassified as Midwestern. I live in Chicago now but inside, Mid Atlantic FOREVER.

Oh Justine. ha. I was wondering if that was going to come up here. I've never even been to the fucking Midwest (although I really want to).

I actually really like Kate and thought I told her as much somewhere on here.

I've done the same, but maybe that credit expired after 30 days? Clearly this week we are the enemy.

I felt sort of bad for a couple minutes earlier this morning when I saw she'd self-banned but that was probably just the nicey-nice side of me because I realized quickly that I have no reason to feel that way. She brought it on herself and it was a cowardly and hypocritical thing to do and I don't regret saying what I did at all.

Born-in-Indiana here! Go Hoosiers!

OHIO bitchez all the way. JENNIBETH 4 LYFE.

I'd comment on the substance of Kate's insults regarding ILS as the popular girls or w/e, since I'm pretty sure many/most of us were equally outcast and bullied and miserable...but I think, in hindsight, that ALL JUNIOR HIGH GIRLS ARE MISERABLE, so I'm not even sure there's any cred there.

I refuse to nitpick details when someone calls me an asshole. Whatever, so you think I'm an asshole. Enjoy that.

Yeah, I mean I'm sorry she feels that way but I'm on the record as being pro-Kate and if that's not working out for her that's okay. I do hope she feels better about things soon - not like has a change of heart about ILS mean girls but just feels better in general. ILX blowups are unpleasant to be involved in.

She's never really been my favorite but being called out individually by her on twitter and told to fuck off was the last straw imo. She's awful and that's the last I'll say on the matter.

in other hair news: my new go-to up-do is high ponytail, hair-coloured sock with toes cut off, spread hair over and kind of pouf it out, secure second hair-tie over it (tucking in as many of the ends as possible) then pinning resulting bun down a little bit.

Clever!

In an act of desperation, I got my hair cut at a chain store in a mall in Florida last week and it turned out awesome. Who knew?

I am having a hard time visualizing Justine's updo! Then again, I am stupid with updos, though I really should figure some out given that I have longish hair these days.

Sock? What?

ENBB come visit Chicago. I've got a $5 off coupon for the Supercuts in my building I'll give you if you do.

ha i should have just posted the youtube vid(s) that inspired it! hang on, i will try to find them