baderonixx, I had to read your post 3 times before I parsed slapping as slapping not sleeping with.
― Ed, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link
people are too hard on shorts. it just depends on your job.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
postman, ups guy...
― Ed, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:09 (fifteen years ago) link
also in the summer, sometimes shorts are all i can do. i have a problem with heat and i'm not about to faint b/c certain people can't look at legs.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link
never never never never never
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:11 (fifteen years ago) link
that said I'm wearing shorts every day this summer as a huge exception to my usual no-shorts policies (it's hot here).
― G00blar, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
The important think about formal bermuda attire is the socks
http://www.bermuda-online.org/shorts2.jpg
http://www.bermuda-online.org/shorts.htm
― Ed, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Sur - I dont have a problem with shorts myself but these mini-suits are just wrong
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
also the whole thing about women being able to wear short things to work and men not being able to pisses me off. women can look professional in a knee-length skirt or dress. we should have an option as well.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know the mini-suits don't look so terrible to me WOW SHOCKA I LIKE THE WEIRD OUTFIT
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Guy on the left somehow reminds me of those tarted up poodles wondering what they have done to deserve such a treatment from their senile masters
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
http://breyfamily.net/images/bermuda/LastNightOut.jpg
― Ed, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
:/
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
All three of those pairs of shorts in the Times are shorter than ANYTHING I would wear to work, although I may be somewhat conservative in that. Those are not knee-length.
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Also the white guy on the far right looks a) gay as a March hare, and b) like a total douchebag.
http://www.pup-n-stuff.com/ProductImages/dog%20shorts.jpg
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I suspect Thom Browne is responsible for all this
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b367/thunderw21/ThomBrownesuitshorts.jpg
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:20 (fifteen years ago) link
yea the three looks above are a little short, but i'm just sayin, we need a short option. is not fair.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf is tom brown and why is he so cute
Not:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1003/976560696_e750543a75.jpg
― Ed, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
It would be "fair" if everyone wore pants, and only pants. People in professional arenas (court, finance, etc) who think women should wear skirts or that skirts are more "correct" are arguing for for women's symbolic sexual availability. Whether they know it or not.
And I hate wearing pants! But the above is still true.
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:29 (fifteen years ago) link
A group of other women argued me down in college on this issue: that a pair of my wool gabardine dress pants was LESS formal than a denim overall jumper, because the jumper was a dress and dresses were categorically more "formal" for women.
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link
i completely disagree!
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link
denim + overalls = not formal
at all
yeah - in which part of the world are denim overalls considered formal?
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Not overalls, a JUMPER. For non-Americans, this is not a sweater, it's something like this:
http://www.careapparel.com/images/36_full.jpg
Obv they were all crazy and soft in the head from living with/being crazy Christian Evangelicals, you don't have to scratch the surface very hard to get people to admit that they secretly think women ought to always wear dresses.
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link
MEANWHILE BACK AT THE RANCH where we were discussing "suit" shorts....
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link
lol that outfit
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Epic fail. Dude looks like Buster Bluth.
― Kerm, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link
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Do I operate the Safari ride at Disneyworld? No?
then HELL NO.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:17 (fifteen years ago) link
funny that in order for men to wear shorts they have to work at disneyworld. BULLSHIT. it's very old-fashioned and bizarre.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link
in my mind it's the same thing as insisting a woman wear a skirt to work. stuck in the good old days.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link
fight the good fight, Surmounter
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link
i sure fucking am
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link
the idea that only 1 cut of cloth can look OK on a man's body makes me so angry.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
My old boss gave me grief about the one time I pulled it off (record heat wave in SF, 110+ degrees) but then when I went to lunch I saw the owner of the company also in shorts so I took a camphone pic and sent it to my boss and said "sup".
― Steve Shasta, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
AWESOME
Surm are you saying shorts are office appropriate though?
― Kerm, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link
it completely depends. i work at a progressive arts institution and i feel very comfortable coming to work in shorts, as do other guys here. so, yes.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
people like making rules about things
― n/a, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
dudes wear regular dude shorts to my work but no one really cares what we look like. i've worn the same pair of jeans for three days in a row now
I would like to reiterate comment above regarding ultimate doucheness of man on the right
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i'd hit it
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Although I guess he's the only one not going for the awful mini-suit thing
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess maybe the real debate here is: would you put a belt on shorts?
Do they stay up without one?
― Ed, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
I think most men look fine in shorts, I like men's legs. I hang out with guys in kilts on a semi-regular basis and believe me I take advantage of the fashion (and pale, pale British Isles types, too). I'm just skeptical about their being professionally appropriate, which is different.
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link
ok good i'm relieved to hear this, Laurel. my girlfriend here at work says she NEVER likes to see men in shorts. which just bugs me.
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah this is nonsense - shorts are great
― baaderonixx, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link
http://bp3.blogger.com/_qjpwnPW4c1o/SI8PNLael-I/AAAAAAAAD0I/JCstjN4YEBU/s1600-h/6238ShortsMocsweb.jpg http://bp0.blogger.com/_qjpwnPW4c1o/SIfWunjx0KI/AAAAAAAADww/nJ29segP3_4/s1600-h/7238MercerStweb.jpg
― Kerm, Thursday, 31 July 2008 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link
fwiw i think a summer suit with shorts is a pretty great idea, with a few stipulations (flat front shorts, tapered knee length, & funtional jacket cuffs to roll up would be a nice touch)
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
http://z.about.com/d/mensfashion/1/0/m/1/JBSP057.JPG
if only i had the guts and money
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:22 (fifteen years ago) link
clean plimsolls could work sockless with the shorts-suit look -- leaving the office-appropriate question aside for the moment
xpost omg @ silver fox in stripey sox A+
― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Pshaw re ladies' footwear, I don't like socks and wear flats/loafers/etc sockless as much as possible. Not torturous as long as the shoes are y'know not made of cheapo plastic parts that have edges sharp enough to slice bread.
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Ed, did you just say that flat-front walking shorts are too dressy for your office?
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link
srsly
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Slightly tongue in cheek, but it is a scruffy bunch here.
Those were both from saks
http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductArray.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446183490&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306418199&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474399545537&bmUID=1217520425808&SECSLOT=LN-Shorts
Do you think saks will still have summer stuff in store next week or will they have flipped on to autumn?
― Ed, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:30 (fifteen years ago) link
i like the green polos and i like their price
― Surmounter, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
http://a488.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/31/l_6ae2f4dc3390e2b98640b941cb62d91f.jpg
"Ah! Just another wonderful day at the office!"
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I can only conclude that that guy is physically still pre-pubescent and has a) no adult musculature, and b) no genitalia. Both of which make me think he should be having a lie-down and a juice box.
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link
- I think the guy on the right looks great, really terrific, would wear that often if I were him - Part of me thinks some of y'all have LEG SHAME - I have one pair of long slim-cut nice shorts that I would not hesitate to wear to the office, though I haven't done so yet; maybe if we get an August heat wave - I think short suits are a funny fashion idea that have no actual relevance to anyone except guys who work in superfancy places that deal with fashion or the arts or something -- but I do appreciate that I see lots of nice-looking men's stuff this summer that's not just all casual beachy lawn-mowing looking, like actual neat trim shorts and button-down combos and stuff that looks genuinely sharp and put-together (cf GUY ON RIGHT)
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link
ACTUALLY dude on the right has kind of a goof-douchey face going, and should lose the sunglasses; I guess I would "wear that often" if I were him while simultaneously wishing I was better looking and had slightly better legs for it.
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 July 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
shorts outside of the office for men or women = fine shorts at the office on men or women = you look fucking ridiculous
― bell_labs, Thursday, 31 July 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
lol i wore shorts to teh office on monday and my orange hairless-cat t-shirt
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link
it is possible that i have officially 'checked-out' re: job
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
shorts get so much hate from dudes i dont really get it
― max, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
is it a 'masculinity' thing
― max, Thursday, 31 July 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
yes
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm gonna say, like anything, it depends on the person/guy
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 31 July 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean shorts for a casual office are fine, but trying to do the dress shorts or short suit thing looks absurd
― bell_labs, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
my shorts are kind of shiny purple with lavender pin-stripes and i pair them with an oversize pirate shirt btw
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
for special occasions job interviews etc
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
lol grad school ;)
― Laurel, Thursday, 31 July 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I work in a casual office -- some of the guys in the studio here spend the summer in college-dude cargo-short style -- but I have yet to really break the wall, even on my really "nice" shorts. I'm on the line, though. Give me a serious enough heat wave, and I'll totally show up in corduroy tennis shorts.
― nabisco, Thursday, 31 July 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
dude on the right - a junior partner/counsel or VP - is heading out early on friday from corporate douche office to the hamptons. that isn't what he wore in this morning.
dude in the middle - either a section editor or a summer intern - is on hour-plus bryant park lunch break from super-cool-fashion-publishing office
dude on the left is a sales associate at a broome st boutique and you have interrupted an important errand you old bag of a publication has no idea where he is or how he got into that outfit
― gabbneb, Friday, 1 August 2008 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Nabisco, I am eager to see shorts incoporated into the pretty 50s engineer look (or was it a mechanic?).
― Virginia Plain, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link
preppy! I meant
― Virginia Plain, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
one reason i support this look is that i like the long-sleeves/short-pants silhouette
― max, Friday, 1 August 2008 14:36 (fifteen years ago) link
dude on the right is an 'associate merchant' at j. crew btw
― max, Friday, 1 August 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i fail, lol. is my guess that far off of what j. crew is after? maybe they're more youthful. dude in the middle is apparently a branding consultant or something.
― gabbneb, Friday, 1 August 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm at work. I'm wearing shorts. It's my first time.
Having done the whole thing lots of guys do with never wearing shorts for the entirely of their 20s, I am now of the opinion that it is good and natural for a man to figure out, by the age of 30, how to wear them in a way that's relatively appropriate and stylish.
― nabisco, Friday, 1 August 2008 17:38 (fifteen years ago) link
shorts for work are fine.. I wear them sometimes, slim + just above the knee in black or navy (LOL, most everything I wear is black or navy)
― daria-g, Friday, 1 August 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Suck it, monkeys, etc.
http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f131/tempdump/th_shorts.jpg
― nabisco, Friday, 1 August 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link
I bought a pair of those michael kohrs shorts in saks, 50% off the sale price. Then I left them in a bar ;_;
― Ed, Thursday, 7 August 2008 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link
^^ sounds like a fun night
― nabisco, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
seriously
nice shorts nabisco!
― Surmounter, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
nabisco you look good in those shorts in your chamber of infinities
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 7 August 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
cardinal sin or not, both yesterday and today i have not changed into my jeans after cycling into work. and i liked it.
― N1ck (Upt0eleven), Friday, 3 July 2009 10:54 (fourteen years ago) link
shorts should be an option.I think folks who insist on an anti-shorts stance are kinda 'itt blogs instruct you how to be a man' from people who are prob not as stylish as they think they are.and maybe they own a fedora or something.
― chinavision!, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
I might pull the trigger on this later in the week.
― chinavision!, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link