We're running with the shadows in the nightSo baby take my hand, it'll be all rightSurrender all your dreams to me tonightThey'll come true in the end
-B. Dylan
― salthigh, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 04:00 (nine years ago) link
can we get stet to code 'shadows' to change to stadows' the way the hatcat pops up
― j., Wednesday, 4 February 2015 04:15 (nine years ago) link
Cliff's voice is still holding up pretty well, shame about the material tho.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 08:00 (nine years ago) link
OMG the tinymixtapes review
Bob Dylan plays the basic totems of the 20th century's repressed occult psychehttp://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/bob-dylan-shadows-in-the-night
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 08:21 (nine years ago) link
watched about one minute of a video of a recent "comeback" concert by shirley collins (english folk singer) and she can't stay on pitch at all, her voice is extremely weak, it's basically shot to hell.
Shirley Collins stopped singing altogether in 1978 because she suffers from dysphonia (inability to sing, basically – Linda Thompson suffered from the same condition). The "comeback" you refer to was not a concert but an unannounced guest slot at a Current 93 gig – David Tibet has been championing her for years and she said she would not have sung onstage again for anyone except him.
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 08:44 (nine years ago) link
I thought she sounded pretty good
Linda sounds great now at least on her last album
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:02 (nine years ago) link
i'm well aware of that, anagram. it was still sad because she had almost no voice, and couldn't stay on pitch at all.
if you think she "sounds great"... wow.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:50 (nine years ago) link
oh, you mean linda. well, i don't think shirley sounded "pretty good" at all, unless you're measuring that against, i dunno, dysphonia.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:51 (nine years ago) link
if you're aware that she suffers from dysphonia then it seems peculiar to note her inability to stay on pitch without acknowledging that fact. also not to acknowledge the fact that it was not a comeback concert.
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:16 (nine years ago) link
Linda Thompson has sounded great since her comeback several years ago.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
i contributed to the shirley collins doc kickstarter and the link to the video was advertised as a "comeback" appearance. i recognize that it's more complex than that.
dysphonia or not, it was very hard to listen to her, and i couldn't make it through more than about a minute.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:38 (nine years ago) link
you gonna be ok?
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 15:53 (nine years ago) link
jeez, people on ILM are touchy today
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
sorry i set off your sensitivometers for daring to point out that she can't sing anymore and it made me sad
while you're at it, spare a few tears for paul young
like honestly all our bodies will betray us before it's over
what do you want? she knows she can't sing like she did, that's why she retired
if she came back for one night because a friend talked her into it and there was a crowd of people who wanted to appreciate what she meant to them, why on earth is that wrong?so fucking what if she doesn't have a strong voice anymore? she doesn't owe you or anyone else shit. fuck "legacies", it's hard for people when they can't do the things that once defined who they are anymore. you don't think she's thought about this?
i seemed like it was a nice moment, a nice evening for everyone who was there. that's all that matters.
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
there's nothing wrong with it, as i said above. i'm glad she and her fans got something out of it. i was just sad at what had happened to her voice. a little shocked, even. that's it.
why don't you actually read what i wrote instead of projecting all this crap onto me?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:23 (nine years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylan-thanks-jimi-hendrix-johnny-cash-in-musicares-speech-20150207
Dylan also poked fun at critics who trash his singing voice. "Why don't they say those same things about Leonard Cohen?" Dylan said. "Why do I get special treatment?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 February 2015 18:23 (nine years ago) link
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2015/02/07/people-bob-dylan-dissed-musicares-speech-merle-haggard-tom-t-hall/23030167/
More of the folks Dylan praised or dissed
"Yakety yak, don't talk back. Charlie Brown is a clown. Baby, I'm a hog for you. Novelty songs. They weren't saying anything serious.
"But Doc's songs, they were better. This Magic Moment. Lonely Avenue. Save the Last Dance for Me. Those songs broke my heart. I figured I'd rather have his blessings any day than theirs."
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 February 2015 18:52 (nine years ago) link
Weird that he sort of trashed Merle Haggard, since he opened a tour of Bob's not too long ago.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 February 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link
Lol at the sketchy visual provided by the artists referenced in his "sure Atlantic had good acts but sun was REVOLUTIONARY" bit, why not say Atlantic had a lot if natural talent but sun was intelligent bob
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link
"Y'know I never cared what people thought of my tunes but I gotta say everyone who dug me was outstanding and everyone who didn't was ok at best."
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link
I hope his tombstone reads "I was probably better than you"
― da croupier, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:11 (nine years ago) link
Poor Marsha Ambrosius!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link
If she had only had the opportunity to go compliment him, before she sang the national anthem
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 7 February 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
is dylan off his meds? what a meany.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
Merle, on FB today:
Bob Dylan I've admired your songs since 1964. "Don't Think Twice" Bob, Willie and I just recorded it on our new album.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:20 (nine years ago) link
It's not half as mean in context. But who cares about that?
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:25 (nine years ago) link
i read the context. it's still pretty churlish. oh well.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 8 February 2015 00:54 (nine years ago) link
when will the never-ending tour end? when the heroin runs out
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 8 February 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link
haha why don't people say that about… tom waits… or leonard cohen… or lou reed…
uh bob
― j., Sunday, 8 February 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link
Don't think anyone's linked the whole transcript yet:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-grammys-2015-transcript-of-bob-dylans-musicares-person-of-year-speech-20150207-story.html#page=1
It seems weird that someone who has received as much critical acclaim as Dylan has over the years should still remember and seem bothered by ancient slights. I guess no matter how much praise you receive as an artist it's never enough. Still seems a bit petty. The story about Billy Lee Riley was genuinely touching though.
― o. nate, Sunday, 8 February 2015 03:59 (nine years ago) link
The whole thing isn't nearly as bitter as ppl are making it out to be. There are a lot of really poignant parts, weird parts, goofy parts, mean parts, very dylan I guess.
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 February 2015 05:07 (nine years ago) link
A good and slightly boring album.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 February 2015 13:04 (nine years ago) link
The speech is pretty consistent with that last big Rolling Stone interview, where he hit some of the same petty grievances. Difference this time is naming so many names. (And weird ones, too -- I would've figured him for a Tom T. Hall fan, but maybe he never listened deeper than "I Love.") Anyway, hard to be surprised that the guy who wrote "Positively 4th Street" 50 years ago has grown into a surly old man.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 8 February 2015 13:18 (nine years ago) link
Well, he's got Bob Lefsetz on his side, so...
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 8 February 2015 16:28 (nine years ago) link
He also takes on two ILM sacred cows, ABBA and Steeely Dan. I don't think he's a fan of them being in the rock and roll hall of fame.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 8 February 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
The song choices were confounding. A track from “Saved”? Another from “Oh Mercy”? Even the most dedicated Dylanologist would not only be disappointed, but would struggle to know the lyrics of these obscurities.
so what kind of Dylan fan would you be if you didn't applaud these choices?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
Kiki from Brooklyn, NY comments in the nytimes:
"Dylan was always just himself."I strongly disagree. Robert Zimmerman has NEVER been himself in public, always appearing in character as Bob Dylan, and, really, that has been a key to his greatness. He plays the character of an idealized, oracular, mysterious poet, ever speaking truth in riddles and indirection. He has acted in movies, but he only plays the Bob Dylan character. He plays is so well, that most people don't even realize he's in character all the time when he's in public. I'm sure if we'd known the inside details of the middle class kid from Hibbing, or the details of where his lyrics came from, it would diminish our ability to take the character seriously. I suspect that there is a highly analytical and ambitious man behind the character, but we'll probably never know.
― calstars, Sunday, 8 February 2015 18:18 (nine years ago) link
Sam Cooke said this when told he had a beautiful voice: He said, "Well that's very kind of you, but voices ought not to be measured by how pretty they are. Instead they matter only if they convince you that they are telling the truth." Think about that the next time you [inaudible].
i just died laughing at this
― example (crüt), Sunday, 8 February 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link
Kiki otm
― Οὖτις, Sunday, 8 February 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
Right. It's not like the clear demarcation between, say, Jim and Iggy.
many lols, especially at
"Y'know I never cared what people thought of my tunes but I gotta say everyone who dug me was outstanding and everyone who didn't was ok at best."― da croupier, Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:05 PM (4 days ago)
― da croupier, Saturday, February 7, 2015 2:05 PM (4 days ago)
― Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 February 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link
I don't find this boring. I just want more. I'm glad that a Rogers & Hammerstein tune gets play, and I've always been a fan of 'Lucky Old Sun.' Frankie Laine due for some sort of revival. There's something so chill about this album. I had it shuffled with a Buddy Guy antholgoy and the new Father John Misty and it sort of felt like some sort of cranky-classy mdidle ground.
― the captain beefheart of personal hygiene (soda), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:04 (nine years ago) link
I want more score-settling with fellow musicians for perceived slights.
― Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:12 (nine years ago) link
Dylan needs to do series of McConaughey-style car ads were he throws other musicians out of said cars.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 February 2015 02:29 (nine years ago) link
Merle Haggard just knows what you needBut Buck Owens knows what you want
― Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link
follow up to the musicares speechwww.bobdylan.com/news/conversation-bill-flanagan
― tylerw, Friday, 13 February 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link
or:Holland-Dozier-Holland said Bob Dylan was just an illusion but Bill "Smokey" Robinson said his talent was growing, like the size of a fish that a man claims broke his reel, and we know who America's greatest living poet was, don't we?
― Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
(xp obv) thanks for link for weekend reading
― Up the Junction Boulevard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 February 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link
Bob Dylan has second album of standards, says Daniel Lanois
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 08:25 (nine years ago) link
stadowing e-40 on the day shift
― j., Tuesday, 3 March 2015 08:36 (nine years ago) link