Punk: Is it dead?

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Is there really any good punk music around? The popular stuff is crap, that's a given. But when I try to investigate the stuff thats underground, that sucks too. You've got your NOFX's which are basically Blink 182 only not as good looking therefore not mainstream; you've got your modern-day hardcores like Anti-flag, which are basically have remedial anarchist politics, stupid early 80s hardcore style only with a fear to deviate from that style in any way shape or form.

I think the problem with punk, is how its definition has changed. New York punk sounded nothing alike, it was just a group of bands who decided to do their own music, to be creative and to do it themselves. Then it got to England, and punk pretty much because Sex Pistols and Sex Pistols rip off bands (with a few exceptions of course). In America there was Black Flag who took it to a whole new level, and bands like Husker Du, the Pixies and the Minutemen did things more in the spirit of original punk, not fearing to be creative. Of course, at that point people stopped calling them punk.

I think now adays, the real punk bands are bands that people dont call "punk". There are bands with all the originality and energy of punk, like the Von Bondies to name one, but arent considered "punk", because people associate punk with kids with mow-hawks and Anarchy t-shirts they bought at hot topic for 15 dollars. Or Green Day.

The problem that the bands that are considered punk have, is they have a set formuala and if they deviate from it, punk fans call them sell outs.

David Allen, Friday, 18 October 2002 02:48 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

And Blink 182 aren't even that cute.

Sean (Sean), Friday, 18 October 2002 02:53 (sixteen years ago) Permalink


oi!
is this thread only about bands with guitars?

if not, who/whats the punx in the elektronik/digi scene? and why, or why not. or what could've been, etcetera.

9, Friday, 18 October 2002 03:02 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Is there any good punk music around anymore? my answer is "who cares?" if there's good music around that is being played with heart and passion and you like it, then there's no problem here.

Anyone who drags around some idea that "punk" is a relevant way to describe a band is really selling it short. In the end its an attitude, and so many bands with so many different sounds in so many different genres now have that attitude, thanks to the doors that were opened in the heyday when "punk" meant something, that now it means nothing.

tinobeat (tinobeat), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

my god what the fuck is wrong with this place these days?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:08 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

jess I promise I was listening to green day before I read this thread tonight

Josh (Josh), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:18 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

If you can identify something as "punk," then it surely isn't.

paul cox (paul cox), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:30 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

punk is not dead because pink lives.

also because rock the casbah still gets modern radio play.

also because avril lavirgne doesn't want to be punk anymore

also because blink 182 are still around and the offspring really aren't.

also because punk was dead the moment the sex pistols album came out because "the real fans" didn't buy it and

also be... I can't do this anymore.

Jess is right.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

have i mentioned violent ramp yet?

hrrm...

gygax!, Friday, 18 October 2002 03:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

people should quit trying to "save" rock and spend more time trying to destroy it

geeta (geeta), Friday, 18 October 2002 04:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink


i think the hippiedestroyer underestimates the creativity in british punk. there's plenty of examples.

i think punk as three chord jamz is deadish. and that had more in common with pop.

but punk as do-it-yourself, anything goes music is totally alive and well... it's just in different forms than the three chords style mentioned above.

gurgle,
m.

msp, Friday, 18 October 2002 05:43 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

people should quit trying to "discuss" rock and spend more time listening to things they enjoy

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 18 October 2002 05:46 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Punk rock died when the first kid said / Punk's not dead, punk's not dead" -- Silver Jews, "Tennessee"

Famous Athlete, Friday, 18 October 2002 05:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

people should quit "listening" to music too

geeta (geeta), Friday, 18 October 2002 05:53 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

well, indeed.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 18 October 2002 05:58 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The whole thread falls apart because GREEN DAY ARE FUCKING GREAT.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 18 October 2002 12:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

283 from Fredericton, NB could answer a resounding yes if the bassist would stop knocking his bass out of tune against his skull. Alot of Maritime towns have good to great punk bands around because classic mullet rawk never went out of style in those small towns. No alt.rawk.revolution, Nirvana was just seen as the next Metallica who were just the next Iron Madain...dude.
So to answer your question 283, possibly Heimlich (who have been wonderfully influenced by their pals The Peter Parkers and Eric's Trip to create a punk/shoegaze hybrid so I dont know if they are punk or not anymore) and several others from Nova Scotia escaping my mind at this hour at work.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 18 October 2002 13:01 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Don't let me open the "it's a genre not a sentient being" can of worms again.

hstencil, Friday, 18 October 2002 13:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Just listen to the Clone Defects and The Piranhas and shut up.

mt, Friday, 18 October 2002 13:16 (sixteen years ago) Permalink


but hstencil, can't we celebrate punk's birthday?!? i'm buying punk a beer t-shirt.

m.

msp, Friday, 18 October 2002 16:59 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Punk is deader than Jesus, foos (sorry, msper).

hstencil, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:41 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

If you can identify something as "punk," then it surely isn't.
[ZEN MASTER]Yes, you gain wisdom, Grasshopper. The Punk which can be known is not the True Punk.[/ZEN MASTER]

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Friday, 18 October 2002 17:47 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Someone mentioned the Clone Defects. I saw them open for the White Stripes last year; it was really bad. The entire thing was audience baiting because they didnt have the music. When I talked to the guys after the show they were real pricks as well.

David Allen, Friday, 18 October 2002 17:52 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

(sterl, mclaren wz talking abt the first single, not the LP)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:02 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

(i couldn't do it anyway. punk is forgotten more than anything else.)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 18 October 2002 18:43 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

damn, where is that definition of 'troll' when you need it!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:50 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Punk is the walking dead, and it now wears a lot of make-up, and buys $120 chucks and $300 pants. My sixteen year old sister has sex Pistols and Cocksparrer patches on her Gap blouses.

Ashley Andel, Saturday, 19 October 2002 00:05 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, but does she actually LISTEN to the Pistols or Cocksparrer...or does she just wear the patches as an affectation?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Saturday, 19 October 2002 16:26 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

(urgent and key cuz patches-as-affectation = punk's not dead)

jones (actual), Saturday, 19 October 2002 17:44 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Id also like to note that the Sex Pistols were a boy-band.

They were chose by Malcolm McLaren for what they looked like.

Then, they weren't about the music, they were about the confrontation.

David Allen, Saturday, 19 October 2002 18:22 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

were the sex pistols a boy band?

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 October 2002 18:29 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Sex Pistols a boy band - yes indeed, but one chosen for how fucking ugly they were; and Mclaren's part in the whole thing may well have been grossly over-exaggerated (by him).
Punk dead or not - Punk's an idea. Ideas are neither alive nor, so this is all a bit redundant; and there's a huge difference between happy boy cali punk and Kid 606, and that whole undergound vegan grindcoren thing which is totally removed from the mainstream of music that it carries on regardless of trends.
Oh and green day are crap for the most part. Great singles, anmd don't you just love that cockney sneer billy Joe does? it's almost as authentic as the one the fuckers from Rancid use.
And finally, i don't think techno can ever be punk in anyway.

threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:12 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

And finally, i don't think techno can ever be punk in anyway.

Why, though?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:34 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

but punk as do-it-yourself, anything goes music is totally alive and well... it's just in different forms than the three chords style mentioned above.

i'm with msp.

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 20 October 2002 00:36 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ned: becasause techno seesm to be more about making comforting patterns and if there's one thing that unites punk is that it's jarring or disconcerting in some way. I could be wrong of course, but the more extreme ends of techno seem far more synonymous with metal than with punk.

threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Sunday, 20 October 2002 04:16 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

There is plenty of jarring techno out there.

bnw (bnw), Sunday, 20 October 2002 06:04 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

101+303+808=now form a band

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 20 October 2002 06:46 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

And comforting punk. Like The Fall or The Mekons or The Clash.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 20 October 2002 08:06 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, my sister listens to both Cocksparrer and the Sex Pistols--she says that listening to "Platinum Blonde" makes her want to dye her hair platinum blonde, despite the fact that she is already really fucking blonde. She also happens to be the most self-centered person I have ever encountered, much like many a punk I have known. Same with all the fake hippies.

Ashley Andel, Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:42 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Apologies to any punks or hippies on ILX, I just really don't like Edmontonian punks or hippies.

Ashley Andel, Sunday, 20 October 2002 15:44 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

In the past 25 years, I've heard far more jarring and disconcerting metal than punk - the very "three chord rock 'n roll" nature of punk makes it rather limited in that respect, it doesn't easily lend itself to musical extremes.

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 20 October 2002 20:22 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

What jarring techno might that be - and is there a definitinoal difference here?
Again, hardcore/extreme techno is much more like Metal than it is punk, it gets faster a growlier but not weirder in that NoWave manner.
And the Fall are hardly comforting. Mark's voice makes paint peel, in a GOOD way.

threemetalinsects (threemetalinsects), Sunday, 20 October 2002 22:35 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I want to talk more about the third Sex Pistols album.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:22 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Punk can't really "die"; Genres don't die. If you don't believe me, I can point you to band that still play music from the 14th Century.
When it comes to Punk, I'd assert that Punk isn't really a genre. Its just a frame of mind that rebellious kids have whey they form their first band, but haven't yet fully mastered their instruments. It always pops up in one form or another whenever music gets too wishy-washy, overly full of itself or too comfortable. Then a new "punk" sounds develops and after it creates a bunch of really interesting music, it too becomes wishy washy, overly full of itself and too comfortable. Then the next "punk" overthrows the old punk.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:33 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Misreads the old punk maybe.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:38 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well, thats what I am. (Says Custos as he reaches for his Dentu-grip and
Metamucil.)

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 20 October 2002 23:51 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

This guy says yes!

http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/getback/144976/hot-topic-punks-in-a-fake-punk-world/

xhuxk, Monday, 5 October 2009 04:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

i've been reading "please kill me" lately and thinking that I can't really imagine this sort of thing happening again. obviously post-60's misery had a lot to do with it. and since I can't imagine anyone being as naive as they were in the 60's again, I don't see a reaction, a legitimate, real reaction, to culture like this happening one more time. but i'll probably be proven wrong.

akm, Monday, 5 October 2009 04:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

when the next one comes, we won't even hear it approaching till its exploding around us. like a V2 rocket.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

Now that lots of old fanzines are getting scanned in and posted to blogs, I wish I had the time to make a compendium of "punk is dead" essays from the last 30 years. The perfect topic for the last page of the fifth issue of your 'zine, one issue before you give up, and three months before you get listed in Factsheet Five. Last page of issue four is complaining about skinheads.

bendy, Tuesday, 6 October 2009 20:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

You can do that too, but changing the system that way(or by being sexy in any other way) is very much a right time/right place thing.

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

And, by the way, don't tell me you can't change the system. I've been around a while, I've seen it change a lot, and it doesn't happen all by itself.

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

The ones who went to, eg, the G8 or G20 protests weren't.

...and there's your 21st century punk. the style might change, but the spirit (really bohemian antiestablishmentarianism) remains.

Punk is Dead, Long Live Punk!

fist and shout (herb albert), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

(as I put on Stations of the Crass)

fist and shout (herb albert), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:44 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, actually when it comes to politically active types, the flimsy boundaries between hippie and punk pretty much cease to exist. Think this has been true as long as the groups have existed.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

If anyone out there wants to raise the "trustafarian" strawman, as far as the UK goes, I can say from personal experience that everyone I've ever met who remotely fits the "crusty punk" stereotype has been from a hard-knock working class background, with a contrarian family background, be it religious or political, that goes back for at least a generation.

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

^^^this is not true in the US. like, at all.

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

Huh. I've known upper-crust hippies + punks and working-class hippies + punks. Sneering at "trustafarians" has always pissed me off, though. I don't think there's anything wrong with being middle-class, rich, whatever.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

there's something wrong with it when you're asking me for fucking change to buy a 40

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

Not saying there's anything wrong with that, just that it seems to be the knee-jerk dismissal in certain quarters, and it's very far from the truth in my (UK) experience.

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

I can't be the first to propose the term "upper-crusties"?

bendy, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

I'd be amazed if you were the first. It's a wingnut standard that the working classes are docile cattle unless disturbed by decadent upper-class lefties.

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

^^^this is not true in the US. like, at all.

I really don't think it is in the UK either tbh - as it goes, when people run through their repertoire of 'lol alternative lifestyle people are all from wealthy backgrounds and can go home to their parents' houses when they get bored' I tend to assume they have nothing interesting to say BUT it didn't spring from nowhere and Soukesian is working with an unrepresentative sample I fear

Vladislav Delap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:23 (nine years ago) Permalink

So, if it didn't spring from nowhere, where did it spring from? Are you saying there there is NO history of working class leftism in the uk? Just forelock tugging serfs?

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

I mean the strawman didn't spring from nowhere, tsk

Vladislav Delap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

The upper crusty stereotype does have some validity I think. I know back in Glasgow in the 80s I knew a whole bunch of crusty punks, some of whom were from upper middle class families or even upper class backgrounds. Others were from slums. But I think it says more about the pressure in the UK to "know your place" that this situation is accepted as self-evidently hypocritical. TBH their position was very much "it's not where you're from, it's where you're at", which is absolutely fine with me.

everything, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

(haha I've spent the last six hours listening to this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Three-Score-Ten-Voice-People/dp/B002HRE0F0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1255044915&sr=1-1 so I'd've done well to forget British working class leftists)

Vladislav Delap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

xpost: Comes from nowhere? Seriously, do you really feel that individuals, yourself included, can have no awareness of their own oppression unless stirred up to revolt against their rightful rulers by bored, sadistic aristocrats? You must hate yourself an awful lot.

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:39 (nine years ago) Permalink

I went to school in UC Santa Cruz, which is a haven for this type of shit, and I can tell you I had PLENTY of fellow students who were from comfortable middle class backgrounds (parents paying tuition, etc.) who would travel to SF to sleep in the park and cop speed and whatnot. I know at least one of these people basically went crazy and became full-time homeless. Another one (my sophomore year roommate) died before turning 21. Others just became ravers/tweakers. Most annoying fucking people ever.

the taint of Macca is strong (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think yr misinterpreting DJ Mens, souk.

Anyway, I don't even have a problem with relatively well-off kids adopting hobo lifestyles. Kids are inherently pretentious, always looking for some way to be cool and a place to fit in. They often do some silly shit in sorting all that out, but as long as their hearts are in the right place, I'm basically okay with whatever. Plus I don't give spare change to crusty street kids on general principle.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

No. This is not about Anarchism or Socialism as a passing phase. I know plenty of people, of all classes, who are in this for life. Don't confuse it for a six-month student pose. If you love UK punk, you must understand this, it is absolutely part of the story and applies to the early death/doom scene as well. Reading "Please Kill Me", what struck me was how scared (and incredulous) NY punks were by The Clash. Their kind of leftism was part of the scenery in the UK in the 70's, and they couldn't understand it at all.

Soukesian, Thursday, 8 October 2009 23:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

Agree with all that. But the existence of leftist lifers doesn't disprove the existence of those for whom is IS a passing phase. Lots of kids of all backgrounds go through a "radical" phase that they eventually outgrow. Rich kids do it, poor kids do it, and kids in the middle do it. Same is true of the lifers. They come from a variety of economic/social backgrounds.

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Friday, 9 October 2009 00:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hmmm. I'm thinking about the folks who don't wash for years on end and get weird tattoos on their necks when they're high on mushrooms. It's not a passing phase. Even if they grow out of it it is something that's part of them wherever they go to next. It's often too intense to simply walk away from. I think that's what Soukesian is talking about too. It was a passing phase for me to hang out with them that's for sure, but then the Stretcheads couldn't keep performing for ever.

everything, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

I actually think the "lifers" are the majority, in the UK at least. And, actually, if your 'economic background" leaves you hungry or disadvantaged, I don't think it's a coincidence that you might be statistically more likely to think that there might be something wrong with that.

Hey, did I mention that I get free health care?

Soukesian, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

"You can, but the process is longer, more painful, and infinitely more drawn out than it seems like it's going to be when you're 17."

i said, people went local and inward.

scott seward, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

But we didn't give up.

Soukesian, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:20 (nine years ago) Permalink

i didn't say that either. people found other more productive ways to change things. if change is what they were truly after. and sometimes this simply meant a spiritual change. not giving up really. maybe giving in a little sometimes.

scott seward, Friday, 9 October 2009 00:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Brit far-left dig in their heels more, for sure. It's reflexive, may be less considered, but a lot more joyous than the American far-left. At least in my limited experience.

bendy, Friday, 9 October 2009 01:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

if it wasn't before, it is now

Neil S, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Dis-rupt!

saddest kamancheh (bendy), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:33 (two months ago) Permalink

Dressed in multicolored pants, combat boots and spiked leather bracelets, SAP’s Chief Human Resources Officer, Stefan Ries proudly strut onto the stage of the MGM Park Theater in Las Vegas to the strains of “Bring Me to Life” by Evanesence.

Ries was here to pump up of thousands of HR professional in attendance for the annual SAP SuccessConnect event, but a more important mission statement soon emerged, emblazoned across his black tee shirt: “HR Punks.”

“The heart of the human revolution is us,” said Ries. “The old days of HR are over. Today onward we need to revolutionize and the best people who can do this are HR punks.”

https://specials-images.forbesimg.com/imageserve/5bbde1134bbe6f7684a6744d/960x0.jpg?fit=scale

hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:35 (two months ago) Permalink

imagine how excruciatingly embarrassing it would be to be one of this guy's children

hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:35 (two months ago) Permalink

oh god i'm so depressed

Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:35 (two months ago) Permalink

have you considered cheering yourself up by strapping on some spiked leather bracelets and strutting proudly to the strains of 'bring me to life' by evanesence?

hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:38 (two months ago) Permalink

imagine getting fired by some cunt in a clown costume

Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:40 (two months ago) Permalink

punke

imago, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:40 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W8h4W6IBGc

Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:42 (two months ago) Permalink

imagine getting fired by some cunt in a clown costume

"Glad to see you go go go go goodbye/ Glad to see you go go go go goodbye"

Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Struggling to think of a single figure from the punk era who wouldn't have been an HR nightmare. Strummer maybe.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:43 (two months ago) Permalink

broke: punk
woke: steampunk
bespoke: hrpunk

hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:44 (two months ago) Permalink

(xp) Glen Matlock obv.

Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:44 (two months ago) Permalink

skrewdriver were good at following orders iirc

hey, nifty clam! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

pogo in the boardroom!

(but only when your stocks go up)

mark s, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Line Manager Sensible

Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:47 (two months ago) Permalink

http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Bad-Brains-1979-.jpg

true punk HR

mookieproof, Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:48 (two months ago) Permalink

"We're moving the HR Department, the general opinion among the management team is that the ground floor should be used for more front facing departments and the 1st floor for finance and upper management, do you or your team have any objections?"

"I Don't Wanna Go Down to the Basement"

Zach Same (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 October 2018 15:56 (two months ago) Permalink

how perry como can revitalize human resources.

how's life, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Struggling to think of a single figure from the punk era who wouldn't have been an HR nightmare. Strummer maybe.

Strummer would go AWOL to Europe for weeks to hide from his boss, but at least he never stuck up for his subordinates when they were being bullied incessantly in the workplace

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Thursday, 11 October 2018 17:14 (two months ago) Permalink

that is a hilarious forbes article

niels, Friday, 12 October 2018 09:01 (two months ago) Permalink


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