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some guy who can't get his act together & lend me a cd reckons i'll love them coz i like meshuggah. i have serious reservations and expect dream theatre style wannk . what happens?.......

bob snoom, Thursday, 17 October 2002 13:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh they're great -- not at all like Meshuggah though. Quite tuneful & half-melodic (they have a "death" vocalist and a clean vocalist, or maybe it's the same guy). Their progginess is tempered by some great ill-will. Like Katatonia minus the sensitive side. "Blackwater Park" is the masterpiece, there's a new one coming soon.

J0hn Darn13lle, Thursday, 17 October 2002 13:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Some informative reviews.

I'm inclined to echo the sentiment that they could be great if they got their shit together and write something coherent. People seem to love them though - and I do enjoy some of it (mainly "Orchid", probably because that's the first thing I heard from them and it has quite well done twin guitar melodies). It's nothing like Dream Theater who always had that annoying 70s/early 80s "heavy metal" wanking thing along with the OTT prog attitude. And nothing like the "smothering the listener with rhythmical chaos" approach of Meshuggah either. It's quite laid back stuff really, even the "heavy" passages aren't extreme at all.

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 17 October 2002 15:10 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"Blackwater Park" is the masterpiece

How I heard of the band in the first place, actually! Thanks to Steven Wilson producing...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 October 2002 15:28 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Very excellent and I don't listen to them half as much as I should. Their tracks manage to combine acoustic-folk singing with scorched-earth black metal and it works quite nicely. A good introduction to the Death/Black scene I'd say, even if they're not necessarily either of those.

dog latin, Thursday, 17 October 2002 15:34 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i bought "orchid" a year and a half ago and i listened to it once and said "hey, this is pretty nice, the melodic stuff and the guitars and everything" and then i never listened to it again. it's sitting in the rack gathering dust as i type this. i feel kind of bad about it. it just didn't kick my ass, in a period when i definitely needed to have my ass kicked by metallic europeans.

they get points for naming one of their albums using a line from a comus song, though.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:48 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

as a matter of fact, that's part of my problem with opeth - they're obviously influenced by folk and prog stuff from the 70s but they seem to be more interested in talking about it than showing it. and the death vocal/clean vocal thing is pretty irritating.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Just finished listening to "Orchid" and "Blackwater Park" again, and now I remember why I hardly ever play it. The acoustic folk bits are rather boring, bordering on muzak actually, and the heavier parts are very predictable, like throwaway At The Gates riffs played by people who don't really care. "Orchid" is also very sterile, although the production is much to blame for that - they fixed that on the later albums, but even "Blackwater Park" sounds somewhat lacklustre and meandering.

I can see why Opeth is so popular outside metal circles, it's very much a metal band for people who don't like metal. They're very conventional melodically, not very inaccessible or harsh and keep the distorted guitars and growly vocals in bite-sized 2 minute chunks. They might be formulaic, but they're not one-dimensional and can pull off a range of vocal styles and melodies. Plus they don't talk about Satan, Odhinn, misanthropy or nuclear armageddon, which also broadens their appeal...

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 17 October 2002 21:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

'still life' is still the masterpiece.

everything else with the exception of 'damnation' (which is pretty average) ranges from very good to excellent. at their sharpest and most focused, they are pretty unbeatable in the metal genre, i'd suggest. they are weaker at times when their songs don't follow a cohesive structure and there's discordance between the heavier and more mellow parts.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 08:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard anything earlier than Blackwater Park, but everything I have heard ranges from very good to excellent. Both the clean and death vocals took some getting used to for me, but I don't mind them now. I suppose they might infuriate metal purists because of their prog/folk tendencies. Great riffs, melodies, and musicianship; interesting textures, arrangements and song structures. They might be a bit too earnest for some tastes.

o. nate, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

the deeper I got into metal, the less I liked Opeth, though Blackwater Park still does the trick for me - it's pretty much all the Opeth I need

IOW Siegbran OTM, unsurprisingly

J0hn D., Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

i still like the old stuff best. the last album lost me completely, even though it's a pretty impressive performance. well, i did like damnation/deliverence, so i guess i don't only like their old stuff. the only album i truly love by them though is morningrise and i haven't played it in ages.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

well, the last album didn't LOSE me, really, it's a natural progression from damnation/deliverence, i just never want to play it. i listened to it twice, i think.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

i would definitely recommend damnation/deliverence to prog fans and hard rock fans and i would definitely recommend morningrise to metal fans. most metal fans have probably already heard it though. but just in case!

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

the deeper I got into metal, the less I liked Opeth

I'm curious- is that because you found other metal bands that do what Opeth does, only better? Or is it because your tastes changed and you found less need for what Opeth does well? Does that make sense? I suppose maybe that what you liked in Opeth when you first heard them was their metal side, and as you got more into metal, you found other bands that hit that nerve more directly. However, if what you liked about Opeth at first was not their metal side but the way they fused different styles, then perhaps you would have had a different experience as you listened further into metal.

o. nate, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah - other bands who on the surface seemed super-harsh turned out to be up to at least as much interesting stuff as Opeth. Especially Katatonia (who have also jumped the shark tho), the Brave Murder Days comp was kinda my "why would I listen to Opeth when this is sorta aiming for the same mood only hitting it so much harder and deeper" moment - Opeth starts to seem like the whitewashed version of something a lot more complex & interesting

J0hn D., Wednesday, 27 June 2007 19:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'll check out Katatonia. The first thing I noticed when I looked up Brave Murder Day on Amazon is that Mike Akerfeldt (Opeth's vocalist, guitarist, and, from what I gather, primary songwriter) is also the vocalist on it.

o. nate, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm still into Opeth plenty...they're definitely one of my faves. And I thought still think Ghost Reveries is fantastic. Right up there with Blackwater Park, Still Life, and My Arms, Your Hearse.

And Katatonia jumping the shark??? The Great Cold Distance is the strongest thing they've ever done.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

"The Great Cold Distance is the strongest thing they've ever done."

it really really isn't, but i think it's nice of you to feel that way.

scott seward, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 22:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

It has some of the best clean vocals I have hear on a metal album in years. And yeah, in this band's case, I prefer Renske's more understated vocal approach, it works extremely well.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 22:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

well, yeah, but it's similar to their last four albums in that regard. i just don't think the songs are as strong.

scott seward, Thursday, 28 June 2007 00:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

listened to Brave Murder Days on the airplane today for, like, the tenth time this year - Christ but Katatonia was well beyond great in those days. I don't think Opeth ever did anything as good as that early Katatonia stuff.

J0hn D., Tuesday, 7 August 2007 02:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

i agree with a. begrand about 'the great cold distance'. and contrary to what a lot of people think about it being 'alternative rock', it's actually a pretty HEAVY record. i think it's just got the edge over 'last fair deal gone down' which is more rock-based, with a pervading cure influence (see: intro to 'tonight's music')

and i think 'still life' is much more developed and interesting that early katatonia, which i nevertheless still like a lot. :)

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Morningrise is the only Opeth I like as much as early Katatonia. Morningrise and Damnation/Deliverence might be all I need from the band. Or the only ones I want to play anyway.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

i just want a new October Tide album. Or a new Diabolical Masquerade album.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

this is cool info too about the Diabolical Masquerade albums:

ENTIRE BACK CATALOGUE TO BE RE-ISSUED

Peaceville records has bought the rights to the back catalogue previously released under Avantgarde and Adipocere records and will re-master and re-issue each title in the near future. Up first on November 6 is Nightwork with bonus track called Cryztalline Fiendz (previously only available on the Nightwork LP version, ltd to 500 copies) now entirely remixed and orchestrated. The digipak will also feature liner notes + different photos.

~BlaKKheim

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

though i think i'm only missing the first one.

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

any katatonia fans who have never heard the october tide albums need to beg borrow or steal copies:

http://www.myspace.com/octobertideband

(i like them just as much as prime katatonia)

scott seward, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 04:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah, they're pretty mega - scott is correct. check it out

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 13:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

wondering what opeth's next one is going to sound like (yes, i still care)

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 15:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Just watched Lamentations. I think it's probably better (for me, anyway) to approach Opeth as if they are a prog band rather than a metal band.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 3 January 2008 21:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

This means, of course, approaching them in a cape.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 3 January 2008 21:16 (nine years ago) Permalink

Right, that does it. I only have 4 of their albums, my bro has the rest. *gets copying*

Just got offed, Thursday, 3 January 2008 21:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

the first four albums are definitely classic, especially Orchid, Morningrise, and STill Life (I really like My Arms Your Hearse too)

I was bored by Blackwater Park and haven't heard the rest.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 4 January 2008 00:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

I have seen Opeth 5 times. I am Agalloch's booking agent. I have never heard Katatonia. Where the hell do I start?

Nate Carson, Friday, 4 January 2008 09:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

OK now I have all the Opeth albums, but no real inclination to listen to them. I think Siegbran has a point when he says that they don't really stretch themselves towards dissonance or unusual sounds. It's generally either heavy-ish melodic metal or folkiness, with little in between. Their very best songs make this not matter, but there's no way I can love this stuff as much as the majority of new-era black metal I've heard so far.

"The Baying Of The Hounds", "The Moor" or "The Drapery Falls" are as good a place to start as any. Their best folky section IMO is the bit between about 2 and 5 minutes in "Blackwater Park". That bit actually chills me slightly.

Just got offed, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Their very best songs make this not matter, but there's no way I can love this stuff as much as the majority of new-era black metal I've heard so far."

Why compare it to this (not that you have with this sentence, but it sounds like you have compared them or are associating the two in some way)?

"...they don't really stretch themselves towards dissonance or unusual sounds"

Unusual sounds? I agree. Dissonance? They use dissonance all the time!

roxymuzak, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

Dissonance is perhaps too general. I'm talking about what many would term 'noise', clashing genuinely obtuse amelodic sounds in order to disorientate and challenge the listener. Too much of Opeth is, I believe, comfortable in its tried-and-trusted melodicism. The dude's cookie-monster vocals don't count!

My comparison is perhaps a fallacy, based on my relatively recent pledge to 'get into metal'. I've known about Opeth a lot longer than I've known about all this wonderful stuff I've only recently found out about, and it's natural to compare the two. As you say, treating Opeth as a prog band may bear more fruit, and may prevent me from abandoning them entirely.

Just got offed, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Certainly clean production is a key ingredient in Opeth's studio work. It was the first hurdle I had to get over before beginning to love them.

But I agree that there's plenty of dissonance in say the title track on Deliverance.

Just understand that they were a studio band for years and years, almost never playing live at all until Blackwater Park. And as for the noise... they are really technically advanced players. They don't want to be Darkthrone.

These guys are by far the best at what they do.

Nate Carson, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

My only gripes about Opeth are:

1) The production on the first 3 albums is sub-par
2) The first song on Ghost Reveries has a Tool-ish riff
3) Their incredible drummer has left the building

Otherwise, I love love love Opeth.

Nate Carson, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

"I have never heard Katatonia. Where the hell do I start?"

brave murder day. then discouraged ones. then continue forward if you like that stuff.

Even Though Katatonia Are One Of My Very Favorite Rock & Roll Bands I Do Have A Complaint

scott seward, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

Hmm. Well my comments on this thread amount to a battle within myself, really. I want to have absorbed and appreciated their entire output, but I'm not sure whether I can motivate myself to go through the process. Some of what I've heard demonstrates inspired songwriting and breathtaking musicianship, but equally a lot merges into an indistinct soup of Nordic handwringing. If you could suggest a couple of songs from each album to concentrate upon, I'd be grateful!

Just got offed, Friday, 4 January 2008 10:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

"Bleak Harvest", "Windowpane", "Deliverance", "Baying of the Hounds" are a few of my favorite tracks from the last 4 albums respectively.

Nate Carson, Friday, 4 January 2008 17:13 (nine years ago) Permalink

Haha, "Baying of the Hounds" is my favourite Opeth song full stop (at this point)!

Just got offed, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think this is my favorite metal album:

http://static.metal-archives.com/images/4/7/4/474.jpg

just sayin' (although the dude from opeth does guest on it).

Jordan, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:51 (nine years ago) Permalink

A friend of mine criticized Lamentations for not containing enough chaos (haw), but, as I said before, I think this is an innapropriate way to approach a band that is essentially a prog band anymore (ok, there are the occasional deathy vox, but what else, especially anymore?). I appreciate Lamentations as a musical performance, not in the same way that I would appreciate, say, Bad Brains Live at CBGB's (as a show). It seems like a common criticism (from metal fans) of Opeth is exactly that: not enough chaos (dissonance, heaviness, etc). This isn't really a criticism in itself, though. It's just about frustrated expectations.

roxymuzak, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

*inappropriate, ugh

roxymuzak, Friday, 4 January 2008 20:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

Frustrated expectations, yes, but I can't help listening to this stuff and sometimes really wishing they'd throw in a really awesome techno breakdown or noisescape or whatever, just to heighten the sense of progression, to give the ear more things to play off one another.

Just got offed, Friday, 4 January 2008 21:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

See, I can't imagine any of that in Opeth's music. There is a lot of stuff going on in there as it is!

roxymuzak, Friday, 4 January 2008 21:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

other albums i liked in high school:

http://www.icedearth.com/discography/c_burntofferings_400.jpg

Jordan, Friday, 4 January 2008 21:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

Thats a tough call, if it were my choice I'd probably go with the Belew and Levin thing, it seems less likely to happen again soon than another Opeth tour.

Anyway, I'm still not sure how I feel about the new album. I do love how full-on prog it is, but on the first two full listens I've found myself wishing for some more upbeat moments to spice things up a little. Its striking me all as a little too pretty and safe I guess, even if the musicianship is wonderful.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 September 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

What a video:

http://www.pitchfork.com/news/44090-video-opeth-the-devils-orchard/

This is a real surprise, Opeth had never made good videos before.

A. Begrand, Friday, 23 September 2011 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

it's a good album but it's also kind of dull, to me.

akm, Friday, 23 September 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Show last night was excellent. The three acoustic songs mid-set ("Throat of Winter," "Credence" and "Patterns in the Ivy II") was received with a mix of bafflement and appreciation. What's really interesting is hearing them Heritage-ize their older songs. They're really working hard to put the new material into context of their whole history, and I think it's working.

that's not funny. (unperson), Friday, 23 September 2011 17:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm psyched to see them for the first time in a couple of weeks. Heritage is where I hoped they would go after the last record and I don't miss the death metal trappings at all. A beautiful, autumnal record hitting at a perfect time.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 September 2011 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

that is an amazing week of music akm. portishead has gotten pretty prog imho, at least third . . . and barlow's involvement in crippled black phoenix and beak

thanks for that video. that is awesome

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 September 2011 17:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Here's some video I shot of Opeth's NYC soundcheck last week...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcTQcKM6MqU

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 26 September 2011 15:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Seeing them for the first time tonight. Still psyched.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:12 (six years ago) Permalink

That Devil's Orchard video is sweet!

Saw them a few nights ago at Stubb's in Austin. It was a good time, though I personally could have done without the acoustic set and with a bit more hard rocking. Both Opeth and Katatonia have very congenial stage presences as far as metal acts go.

Moodles, Saturday, 8 October 2011 05:34 (six years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Only just caught up on Deliverance, pretty good! Might be tied with Ghost Reveries as my favourite.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 7 July 2014 13:30 (three years ago) Permalink

A Fair Judgement is massive.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 7 July 2014 13:47 (three years ago) Permalink

the new one sounds awesome, straight up complex and intricate, unabashedly progged out, way more what i was expecting from 'heritage', which i think half-stepped it a bit. just a few listens and already this is edging into motorpsycho 'death-defying unicorn' decade highlight territory

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 July 2014 00:35 (three years ago) Permalink

Ghost Reveries was the last one I loved, but i didn't hear Heritage.

Neanderthal, Friday, 18 July 2014 00:41 (three years ago) Permalink

New one's fantastic.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 18 July 2014 01:41 (three years ago) Permalink

"goblin" lives up to such a tall name. the versatility of these guys is really kind of staggering

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 July 2014 15:24 (three years ago) Permalink

where are you hearing this? it's not out yet is it?

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Friday, 18 July 2014 15:27 (three years ago) Permalink

It's not out until August 26, but it leaked yesterday.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 18 July 2014 15:38 (three years ago) Permalink

it is available. sound quality is no good though. this is gonna sound enormous legit

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 July 2014 17:20 (three years ago) Permalink

The problem is that Opeth are both brilliant and shit, usually in the same song, since Mikael Akerfelt's way of writing a prog 'epic' is to sling disparate and unconnected riffs/parts together until he has 10 minutes worth of music. Or at least that's what it sounds like to me a lot of the time.

I love a lot of prog but Heritage was not a good example, it was just bloated and disjointed in all the bad ways. I'll still give this new one a listen, but my hope aren't high.

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:16 (three years ago) Permalink

lol my favourite opeth song is 'the baying of the hounds' but that's basically because of its 7 only vaguely connected parts about 5 or 6 are absolutely brilliant, their best strike-rate imo

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:18 (three years ago) Permalink

Akerfelt's way of writing a prog 'epic' is to sling disparate and unconnected riffs/parts together until he has 10 minutes worth of music. Or at least that's what it sounds like to me a lot of the time.

to be fair, this is pretty much what constitutes 95% of current "prog"

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:19 (three years ago) Permalink

depends what you mean by ""prog"", mayne

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:22 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm not even sure I know what I mean by """prog""", I just know that digging into the current bands that get hyped in places like the progarchives, a huge percentage of the bands are really bad at composing "epics" for the very reasons you suggest. I was just trying to say it isn't a trap that only Akerfelt falls into. The good thing about him is that his highs are so fucking high that it covers for the lackluster bits, for the most part.

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:24 (three years ago) Permalink

that's fair

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:26 (three years ago) Permalink

Album with the most highs per song = Blackwater Park, for me

And jon/via/chi I'm sure I'd be in agreement if I listened to more modern *prog* prog, as it is I prefer the more avant/RIO-leaning stuff that's bloated and disjointed in GOOD ways, y'know? (OK not all the time)

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 18 July 2014 22:33 (three years ago) Permalink

blackwater park title-track and the drapery falls are up there yeah

ultros otm, the best 'prog' usually chooses to not define as such

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Friday, 18 July 2014 22:37 (three years ago) Permalink

I think "Lotus Eater" is a brilliant assemblage of different segments, one of their best songs.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:39 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah Watershed's a good record. I quite like Opeth!

i'm elf-ein lusophonic (imago), Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:43 (three years ago) Permalink

I've always thought the "omg Opeth is nothing but Frankenstein-ish melding of parts that don't go together for ten minutes" accusation was greatly overstated. Not that I'm saying there's zero truth to it, but it isn't as if they sounded like a bunch of dorks in a guitar shop dicking around for a half hour.

They managed to write compelling songs and over time, streamlined their sound and honed their songwriting skills considerably (hell, "Still Life" and ongoing often have traditional song structures!).

I still love old Opeth too though - even when it's all over the place at times.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:49 (three years ago) Permalink

My Arms, Your Hearse through Blackwater Park is a pretty astonishing run. always thought they dropped off significantly after that, perhaps even getting progressively worse with each album. this new one seems a step up from Heritage though.

charlie h, Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:50 (three years ago) Permalink

and not all of their stuff has been particularly disjointed. take a listen to Moonlapse Vertigo, for instance. that thing's a 10-minute opus and it flows gorgeously.

charlie h, Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:53 (three years ago) Permalink

"April Ethereal" is one of my fav songs by them as well

Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:55 (three years ago) Permalink

she faced me in AWWWWEEEE

charlie h, Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:56 (three years ago) Permalink

When could be my favourite Opeth song. the second half of that song is incredible.

charlie h, Saturday, 19 July 2014 00:59 (three years ago) Permalink

The second song on the new album starts in one mode and stays there for the entire run. In fact, their guitarist Fredrik Åkesson joked about it in a recent interview - he said it was the first of their songs not to have a "forest-y part" in the middle.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 19 July 2014 01:02 (three years ago) Permalink

people who were disappointed by the last one might be more into this new one

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 19 July 2014 14:54 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Saw them the other night on tour, fuck they are great live. I love their albums but I have to say that live it all kind of washes past me; he's doing much more growl-voice live than I expected. Anyway Sorceress is very good, I like it more than Pale Communion and maybe more than Heritage. That is all.

akm, Thursday, 27 October 2016 23:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Massive C. Every decade has its bad metal, but all this gentrified middlebrow "smart" "artistic" metal for Hillary voters makes me kinda nostalgic for the bad metal of the 90s.

punksishippies, Friday, 28 October 2016 00:35 (one year ago) Permalink

I mean D.

punksishippies, Friday, 28 October 2016 00:35 (one year ago) Permalink

..............

Anyway, I tried to give Sorceress a go the other day but only got like three songs in. They just make me want to go and listen to some actual good prog, you know? Even their buddies Anekdoten do the retro-prog thing much more convincingly.

ultros ultros-ghali, Friday, 28 October 2016 13:55 (one year ago) Permalink

It's fun to imagine Iron Mike saying it:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153966086531299&set=p.10153966086531299&type=3&theater

Blood On The Knobs, Friday, 28 October 2016 15:30 (one year ago) Permalink

lol punksishippies you wasteman even phil fr33man thinks opeth are real metal

imago, Friday, 28 October 2016 15:42 (one year ago) Permalink

punksishippies doesn't like anything the imaginary square living in his head wouldn't hate.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 28 October 2016 17:07 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

"the wilde flowers" rules. opeth going full prog is still totally mindboggling, like motorpsycho-, decemberists-, his name is alive-, and enslaved-level amazing imho

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 15:43 (four months ago) Permalink

Nah I keep frustratedly waiting for the shouty bits. D since Ghost Reveries pretty much.

chap, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:02 (four months ago) Permalink

That's not entirely fair of me, there have been some decent tracks.

chap, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:02 (four months ago) Permalink

But it's the tension between the pretty sections and the punishing sections that made them interesting to me. The pretty sections are pretty on their own, but somewhat inert.

chap, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:08 (four months ago) Permalink

No you're absolutely right. I wouldn't mind that Opeth went straight prog if they were any good at it, and they're not particularly "pretty" anymore anyway

ultros ultros-ghali, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:11 (four months ago) Permalink

To clarify, I meant they went off after Ghost Reveries. GR is excellent.

chap, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 16:22 (four months ago) Permalink


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