Rolling techno* albums thread for people who are clearly doing it wrong

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Not being someone who ever goes out dancing I don't really want to gum up the bobbins thread with this stuff, but basically this is a thread for discussion and recommendation of new techno* records for home-listening.

*techno and related electronic music

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:49 (five years ago) link

Really enjoying the Richard Tobar and Akkord albums but realised I had no place to share this scintillating tidbit.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:50 (five years ago) link

ha wait: Richard Ricardo

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:56 (five years ago) link

off to a grand start already

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:57 (five years ago) link

(I am sad to see the death of the phrase "bobbins" because of long conversations with Anna (who coined its usage on ILM) about why she used "bobbins" and what it meant, and what it was trying to avoid. Sigh.)

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:59 (five years ago) link

"bobbins" has died?

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:01 (five years ago) link

i thought that was why you were using techno* instead of "bobbins"?

(I have no idea. I'm sorry. I'll go away now.)

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:04 (five years ago) link

Oh this is totally meant to be separate thing. I'm definitely an albums person in my listening habits and also more of a generalist too, so this thread is intended as a non-dance-focussed and non-expert thing, probably featuring a lot of ineptitude on my part that I would be too embarrassed and self-conscious about elsewhere.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:16 (five years ago) link

And techno* cos I have no idea about terminology, but was hoping to bring in ambient stuff as well as post-dubstep records too.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:18 (five years ago) link

oh here we go again: non-dance-focussed non-dancing-focussed

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (five years ago) link

someone edit this already to make me look less like an imbecile

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (five years ago) link

Right, so would the East India Youth album fit in here for discussion?

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (five years ago) link

It's not really new, but I got the Stellar Om Source album from last year, and I'm really enjoying it... Reminds of me of the more technoish Warp records from the early 90s (LFO, Mike Ink, etc) in that it's both danceable and good for home-listening. It's total nostalgia stuff, sounds like it could've actually been made 20 years ago, but for a guy like me who often feels nostalgic for that era, it's hitting all the sweet spots.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (five years ago) link

xp not heard it at all, so you tell me! thread police free zone here though so i say go for it

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:33 (five years ago) link

On the other hand, I can't understand the love for the new Donato Dozzy album, seems like it placed quite high in the 2013 albums poll... To me it sounds like very standard droney ambient, like a B-list Fax album or something, I don't see why people find it so exceptional. Especially considering that Voices from the Lake and K really were exceptional and very good; this one feels much more meh to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:34 (five years ago) link

i need to spend more time w/ stellar om source. always enjoyed her stuff in the past though but that was more kind of free-floating astral dolphin music xps

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:36 (five years ago) link

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:39 (five years ago) link

I've never come across with anything by her before this; the earlier stuff seems pretty hard to find? Joy One Mile is not dolphin music though, it's quite kicking actually.

(xpost)

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:41 (five years ago) link

i think the dozzy record gets better the more attention you pay to it or else it tends to evaporate before you've taken it in, whereas VFTL sounded great even just as a background thing. didn't vote for dozzy though, wasn't even the best thing on that label last year (cos that was the quicksails record)

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (five years ago) link

(though i think this is a potentially useful distinction anyway, home-listening and album-focused electronic music rather than club-focused; the EOY polls always demonstrate there's interest in this)

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (five years ago) link

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

you're probably better asking a person who knows what they're talking about tbh

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43 (five years ago) link

that was directed at branwell - I didn't think it actually "meant" anything in the way implied.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45 (five years ago) link

bobbins ain't dead anyway house and techno bobbins 2014

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:48 (five years ago) link

Nope, and it was actually Anna F that coined the term "bobbins" because she was at that time writing for (big name UK based dance music magazine) and there were BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR feuds between staff members about what was "Techno" and what was "House" and the differences between tiny micro-genres. And it was a running joke in her house that to avoid the death-match-feuds, to just call it all "dance... bobbins".

I cannot believe that I know stuff about the deep history of obscure ILM terms, but I guess this was just stuff we talked about while DJing.

I, too, would be happy to have an albums-based electronic bobbins thread, because I am LOL old and haven't danced in years.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:06 (five years ago) link

Two recent albums I've been enjoying that might fit into this thread:

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima
Ukkonen: The Ancient Tonalities of...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:17 (five years ago) link

yeah this is my kind of rolling thread, good call Nick

I get a lot of opportunity to check out new electronic releases but nowhere near enough to go raving or generally do much more than sort of mooch at the edge of the attendant culture

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:18 (five years ago) link

Not a big fan of dividing "home" listening from "club" listening, as the delineation is fluid and arbitrary, but this is also only a personal take...but then similiarly I'm not a fan of microgenre naming either

but heres something which might fit,

https://soundcloud.com/richardzepezauer/bulldozers-from-nsyde-part-2

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:50 (five years ago) link

Also, e/tape https://soundcloud.com/etape/t-12 though its maybe too sleepy even for this thread

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:53 (five years ago) link

Hello. I'll be lurking in your thread. I may even post if I feel moved to listen to any music which is not either a year old and already discussed on ILX or 30 years old.

(like BB, also LOL too old to dance now and regretting that I spent my dancing-age years feeling that clubs were not welcoming spaces for me, lol indie kids, lol ugly women, etc)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:21 (five years ago) link

down with this thread (I am, that is)

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:38 (five years ago) link

Just been listening to Mika Vainio's new Konstellaatio album in his more ambient/less abrasive zero guise and it is very beautiful electronic head music, if that is what you are angling at in this thread.

xelab, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:12 (five years ago) link

Yeah 99% of the dance music I hear now is "home listening" even it's totally banging and dancefloor-centric (and there are whole albums of that sort of stuff as well).

Bobbins will never die.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (five years ago) link

Was just listening to Konstalaatio today - very nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:57 (five years ago) link

New NHK'Koyxen album is out at last, which I've been looking forward to for a while. It's on Pan again, which is maybe better known for electronic art music, but the last one was great hall-of-mirrors machine music with subtlety mind-disordering rhythmic effects and a lot of people's favourite on that label along with the Lee Gamble one.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:35 (five years ago) link

http://d1wtzzt4oxg683.cloudfront.net/images/covers/160/144660.jpg

^ so pretty!

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:38 (five years ago) link

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima

dunno if it's just me but i find this his weakest release thus far. still good, but a bit watertready

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:39 (five years ago) link

yeah I didn't find much call to give it a second listen

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:01 (five years ago) link

really loving this new hauschka album - http://www.cityslang.com/releases/64220/abandoned-city/ - fans of nils frahm would be into it i think

lex pretend, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:04 (five years ago) link

i'm really into pangaea ultima

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:06 (five years ago) link

i keep being impressed / doing double takes whenever tracks from peter van hoesen's live performance come up on shuffle. it's still p microproduced but has a looser vibe i seem to be keying in on.

i feel like i sample from a lot of recent techno that just doesn't grab me, maybe i'm only paying half attention, seems like the production is samey in an immaculate way but there isn't any fire and it's all airless and boring. one example is the conforce album, just zzzzz imo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:09 (five years ago) link

oops i think it's life performance

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:12 (five years ago) link

also want to rep for anthony parasole's label the corner out of new york, last two releases are awesome (parasole and phil moffa - pressure and tom diccico - no sympathy)

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:15 (five years ago) link

though those aren't albums, ayy

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:16 (five years ago) link

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:27 (five years ago) link

Have enjoyed Hauschka in the past Lex (think it was Foreign Landscapes that I got into, that was very much modern chamber ensemble classical stuff though). Bit of a wait till mere mortals get to hear the new one - not out until mid-March by the looks of it.

Was giving the Mika Vainio a whirl a bit earlier. Sounds really well done but it was all a bit too austere for me. Have never quite got to grips with Pansonic either tbh so it probably wasn't meant to be.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:57 (five years ago) link

vainio never clicked with me though on paper it sounds like exactly the kind of thing i'd dig.

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:28 (five years ago) link

I noticed that a third volume of Thomas P. Heckmann's (aka Age, Drax, Skydiver, etc) The Lost Tales was recently released, you can play the whole album via the link. (It's not on Fax like the previous two, but on some new American label, which was apparently set up as a legacy label to Fax, since it folded with Pete Namlook's death.) Anyway, like the previous two, it collects previously unreleased material by Heckmann, some of which dates back to to the early 90s, so there's loads of trancey analogue sounds and cosmic techno goodness... And more synth solos than on his previous albums! Obviously this is very old school stuff, but since cosmic beats and Fax have always been my thing, I love it! "Berlin to Dawn" and "Ode to a Friend" especially are awesome synth freakouts.

Tuomas, Friday, 31 January 2014 23:36 (five years ago) link

this is the perfect thread to post about:

severence - hidden ceilings
sven weisemann - inner motions
and
the smoke clears - listen

each of which were on my eoy ballot, and i associate them with each other. haven't really seen anyone discuss them anywhere, probably b/c they're very humble albums, but they linger in that edge of sleep space which i really love. i don't think listening to a single track really does any of them justice because they all take time to pull you in, but all three are pretty much perfect.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:09 (five years ago) link

Fuck me, that Weisemann album is a lot better than I remembered it as this year.

xelab, Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:56 (five years ago) link

that's you running into a vampire weekend gig, that is :p

calzino, Sunday, 3 February 2019 13:58 (five months ago) link

it's a year old mix and not an album but I've been listening to this mix I found after hearing a track by hyph11e and wanting to track down more music: https://soundcloud.com/i-d-online-1/i-dj-scintii-b2b-hyph11e

also checking out the new Lee Gamble album that I didn't even realize was coming out until it popped up on my recommendations last friday!

mh, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 15:53 (five months ago) link

I've discovered this "deconstructed club" genre via RYM, and like lots of it, but its really just IDM 3.0.

innocence adjacent (Sanpaku), Friday, 8 February 2019 21:38 (five months ago) link

fair

mh, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:38 (five months ago) link

not a big fan of either genre but must disagree

the late great, Friday, 8 February 2019 23:55 (five months ago) link

Is deconstructed club music really a genre it seems like a weird strawman thing but idk

It just seems like there’s a lot of people doing a lot of things these days with club ways of making music, whether it’s neo breaks, fucked lo fi, or post bass weirdness ... maybe just a dialectical movement away from relentless grey tech house colliding with 90s revival? There’s no way Anthony Naples or acemo could be considered idm

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:19 (five months ago) link

otm

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:28 (five months ago) link

as far as 'deconstructed club' goes i think of the mumdance 'shared meanings' mix more than like lee gamble and PAN. someone like chevel is doing 'deconstructed club music' imo.

plus there's actual idm revival stuff now like the skee mask album

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:35 (five months ago) link

One similarity is that no one doing it would apply that label to themselves, and if they are, it's probably trash.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:39 (five months ago) link

it's one of those catch all terms for "doing something kinda different" that misses the point by trying to fit a bunch of stuff into a demographic hole

macropuente (map), Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:47 (five months ago) link

wait i thought deconstructed club was all that "ha dance" sounding breaking glass noises stuff

the late great, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:47 (five months ago) link

"shared meanings" ← thought this genre was called WEIGHTLESSSSS or something like that

the late great, Saturday, 9 February 2019 00:48 (five months ago) link

Yeah, it was first coined to describe what Total Freedom, Lotic, Rabit, etc were doing. But it's since been absorbed as an influence, reacted against, transformed, etc and is essentially meaningless now.

(which is why I started the misfit club etc thread to bring those different strains of non-techno dance {and non-dance} music that I'm interested in)

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:05 (five months ago) link

should a 2019 thread be made? meaningless beats 2019? or something?

until then, appreciating this rollover from late 2018 gonzo mid-fi post night slugs + breaks thing

lyra valenza - reality blizz (opal tapes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-cNrMZLNT4

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 9 February 2019 01:22 (five months ago) link

Lorenzo Senni’s hyper-edited earlier stuff is probably the obvious reconstructed version

mh, Saturday, 9 February 2019 03:12 (five months ago) link

Nkisi really hitting the spot.

pomenitul, Monday, 11 February 2019 15:26 (five months ago) link

should a 2019 thread be made? meaningless beats 2019? or something?

The other thread isn't technically tied to a year, but I'd be fine with a new one if it's unwieldy (length or concept-wise)? Maybe a fresh start would be nice.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 15:48 (five months ago) link

the misfit one ... am i insane or did it not say 2018 ...not that it matters!! happy to have this thread be the repository for this confusing tendency. thank you by the way for all your contributions

another one, nyege nyege doing it again

https://soundcloud.com/hakunakulala/slikback-01-sonshitsu

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:16 (five months ago) link

Oh you're right! I'll start a new thread later (or feel free to do it if you have a cute title).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:55 (five months ago) link

That track is pretty wild, will check out the release for sure.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 18:57 (five months ago) link

this is for techno/house not British guys doing footwork or whatever

brimstead, Monday, 11 February 2019 20:32 (five months ago) link

Yeah please use the other thread.

Matt DC, Monday, 11 February 2019 21:14 (five months ago) link

Oooh. Ok, bye techno dudes.

Rolling Reconstructed Club Music 2019

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 11 February 2019 21:15 (five months ago) link

this is for techno/house hipster garbage like rezzett and skee mask, not British guys doing footwork or whatever

the late great, Monday, 11 February 2019 21:29 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

https://jollydiscs.bandcamp.com/album/export

good weird shit

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:29 (four months ago) link

psherb did a writeup on pfork today, surprised me b/c i thought only i cared about RAP

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:30 (four months ago) link

really got into this Ossia album released this year

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:34 (four months ago) link

checking out that RAP album

speaking of cross-genre album exercises, still trying to figure out if I like Heavy the Eclipse, the Clouds one

anyone else heard it?

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:38 (four months ago) link

new to me, wild album art and track titles

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:49 (four months ago) link

been meaning to listen to the ossia lp

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:49 (four months ago) link

RAP really upped the game on names that are unsearchable on streaming services, huh

guess that is one way to make a bandcamp sale

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:54 (four months ago) link

Ha, that was the only way I could find it (w/the label name). Maybe it's not on streaming services though, there's no way to know.

I was totally stumped the other day after hearing a mix and some tracks by a producer named 'Toni' on NTS the other day. Track names were all generic single words. Couldn't find a soundcloud, twitter, absolutely nothing. Good job Toni.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:59 (four months ago) link

hey man RAP is just a good name

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 14 March 2019 15:59 (four months ago) link

the original fan

https://i.imgur.com/nZgDYG9.jpg

ciderpress, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:02 (four months ago) link

hah, I was referencing The Locust last week

but yes, the RAP release isn't on anything other than bandcamp afaict

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:08 (four months ago) link

ciderpress, what comic is that? I remember it from somewhere but I'm drawing a blank

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:08 (four months ago) link

dunno i think it's from some locust related record sleeve or merch or zine. it was briefly a meme on SA at some point back in the 00s which is where i have it from

ciderpress, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:11 (four months ago) link

ah, that makes sense

mh, Thursday, 14 March 2019 16:12 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

lyra valenza - reality blizz (opal tapes)

after living inside the ambient poll for a while it’s a lovely shock to remember that yes, i do like to be X-CITE-D

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 19:29 (one week ago) link

New Young Marco is exceptional to me on the pseudo fourth world mallets bamboo and dx7 tip.

dsb, Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:40 (one week ago) link

the pseudo fourth world mallets bamboo and dx7 tip

this really should be its own bin card in every record store

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 14 July 2019 15:47 (one week ago) link

oh sweet, biology is one of my favorite albums this decade

brimstead, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:50 (one week ago) link

I agree, Paul

brimstead, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:51 (one week ago) link

I also want a “fender Rhodes and bongos” section

brimstead, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:51 (one week ago) link

my standard eye catcher was always "handclaps, accordion and theremin"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 04:25 (one week ago) link

the best dance reviews are the capsule blurbs on hardwax

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2019 05:45 (one week ago) link

lol rong thread

brimstead, Monday, 15 July 2019 05:45 (one week ago) link

rong thread but otm

untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:07 (one week ago) link

i wasn't sure if my lyra valenza rec belonged in this thread lol and here i am coming to post another thing i am unsure about

i know the phrase 'brooklyn techno' could cause eyerolls or worse, but lately things have been a lot more chill here thanks in so small part to acemo

https://jenkemrecordings.bandcamp.com/track/soul-deep-management

https://soundcloud.com/acemo/where-they-at-ft-john-fm

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Monday, 15 July 2019 20:04 (one week ago) link


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