Rolling techno* albums thread for people who are clearly doing it wrong

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Not being someone who ever goes out dancing I don't really want to gum up the bobbins thread with this stuff, but basically this is a thread for discussion and recommendation of new techno* records for home-listening.

*techno and related electronic music

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:49 (seven years ago) link

Really enjoying the Richard Tobar and Akkord albums but realised I had no place to share this scintillating tidbit.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:50 (seven years ago) link

ha wait: Richard Ricardo

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:56 (seven years ago) link

off to a grand start already

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:57 (seven years ago) link

(I am sad to see the death of the phrase "bobbins" because of long conversations with Anna (who coined its usage on ILM) about why she used "bobbins" and what it meant, and what it was trying to avoid. Sigh.)

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:59 (seven years ago) link

"bobbins" has died?

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:01 (seven years ago) link

i thought that was why you were using techno* instead of "bobbins"?

(I have no idea. I'm sorry. I'll go away now.)

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:04 (seven years ago) link

Oh this is totally meant to be separate thing. I'm definitely an albums person in my listening habits and also more of a generalist too, so this thread is intended as a non-dance-focussed and non-expert thing, probably featuring a lot of ineptitude on my part that I would be too embarrassed and self-conscious about elsewhere.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:16 (seven years ago) link

And techno* cos I have no idea about terminology, but was hoping to bring in ambient stuff as well as post-dubstep records too.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:18 (seven years ago) link

oh here we go again: non-dance-focussed non-dancing-focussed

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (seven years ago) link

someone edit this already to make me look less like an imbecile

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (seven years ago) link

Right, so would the East India Youth album fit in here for discussion?

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (seven years ago) link

It's not really new, but I got the Stellar Om Source album from last year, and I'm really enjoying it... Reminds of me of the more technoish Warp records from the early 90s (LFO, Mike Ink, etc) in that it's both danceable and good for home-listening. It's total nostalgia stuff, sounds like it could've actually been made 20 years ago, but for a guy like me who often feels nostalgic for that era, it's hitting all the sweet spots.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (seven years ago) link

xp not heard it at all, so you tell me! thread police free zone here though so i say go for it

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:33 (seven years ago) link

On the other hand, I can't understand the love for the new Donato Dozzy album, seems like it placed quite high in the 2013 albums poll... To me it sounds like very standard droney ambient, like a B-list Fax album or something, I don't see why people find it so exceptional. Especially considering that Voices from the Lake and K really were exceptional and very good; this one feels much more meh to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:34 (seven years ago) link

i need to spend more time w/ stellar om source. always enjoyed her stuff in the past though but that was more kind of free-floating astral dolphin music xps

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:36 (seven years ago) link

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:39 (seven years ago) link

I've never come across with anything by her before this; the earlier stuff seems pretty hard to find? Joy One Mile is not dolphin music though, it's quite kicking actually.


Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:41 (seven years ago) link

i think the dozzy record gets better the more attention you pay to it or else it tends to evaporate before you've taken it in, whereas VFTL sounded great even just as a background thing. didn't vote for dozzy though, wasn't even the best thing on that label last year (cos that was the quicksails record)

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (seven years ago) link

(though i think this is a potentially useful distinction anyway, home-listening and album-focused electronic music rather than club-focused; the EOY polls always demonstrate there's interest in this)

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (seven years ago) link

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

you're probably better asking a person who knows what they're talking about tbh

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43 (seven years ago) link

that was directed at branwell - I didn't think it actually "meant" anything in the way implied.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45 (seven years ago) link

bobbins ain't dead anyway house and techno bobbins 2014

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:48 (seven years ago) link

Nope, and it was actually Anna F that coined the term "bobbins" because she was at that time writing for (big name UK based dance music magazine) and there were BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR feuds between staff members about what was "Techno" and what was "House" and the differences between tiny micro-genres. And it was a running joke in her house that to avoid the death-match-feuds, to just call it all "dance... bobbins".

I cannot believe that I know stuff about the deep history of obscure ILM terms, but I guess this was just stuff we talked about while DJing.

I, too, would be happy to have an albums-based electronic bobbins thread, because I am LOL old and haven't danced in years.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:06 (seven years ago) link

Two recent albums I've been enjoying that might fit into this thread:

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima
Ukkonen: The Ancient Tonalities of...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:17 (seven years ago) link

yeah this is my kind of rolling thread, good call Nick

I get a lot of opportunity to check out new electronic releases but nowhere near enough to go raving or generally do much more than sort of mooch at the edge of the attendant culture

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:18 (seven years ago) link

Not a big fan of dividing "home" listening from "club" listening, as the delineation is fluid and arbitrary, but this is also only a personal take...but then similiarly I'm not a fan of microgenre naming either

but heres something which might fit,

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:50 (seven years ago) link

Also, e/tape though its maybe too sleepy even for this thread

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:53 (seven years ago) link

Hello. I'll be lurking in your thread. I may even post if I feel moved to listen to any music which is not either a year old and already discussed on ILX or 30 years old.

(like BB, also LOL too old to dance now and regretting that I spent my dancing-age years feeling that clubs were not welcoming spaces for me, lol indie kids, lol ugly women, etc)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:21 (seven years ago) link

down with this thread (I am, that is)

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:38 (seven years ago) link

Just been listening to Mika Vainio's new Konstellaatio album in his more ambient/less abrasive zero guise and it is very beautiful electronic head music, if that is what you are angling at in this thread.

xelab, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:12 (seven years ago) link

Yeah 99% of the dance music I hear now is "home listening" even it's totally banging and dancefloor-centric (and there are whole albums of that sort of stuff as well).

Bobbins will never die.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (seven years ago) link

Was just listening to Konstalaatio today - very nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:57 (seven years ago) link

New NHK'Koyxen album is out at last, which I've been looking forward to for a while. It's on Pan again, which is maybe better known for electronic art music, but the last one was great hall-of-mirrors machine music with subtlety mind-disordering rhythmic effects and a lot of people's favourite on that label along with the Lee Gamble one.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:35 (seven years ago) link

^ so pretty!

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:38 (seven years ago) link

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima

dunno if it's just me but i find this his weakest release thus far. still good, but a bit watertready

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:39 (seven years ago) link

yeah I didn't find much call to give it a second listen

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:01 (seven years ago) link

really loving this new hauschka album - - fans of nils frahm would be into it i think

lex pretend, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:04 (seven years ago) link

i'm really into pangaea ultima

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:06 (seven years ago) link

i keep being impressed / doing double takes whenever tracks from peter van hoesen's live performance come up on shuffle. it's still p microproduced but has a looser vibe i seem to be keying in on.

i feel like i sample from a lot of recent techno that just doesn't grab me, maybe i'm only paying half attention, seems like the production is samey in an immaculate way but there isn't any fire and it's all airless and boring. one example is the conforce album, just zzzzz imo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:09 (seven years ago) link

oops i think it's life performance

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:12 (seven years ago) link

also want to rep for anthony parasole's label the corner out of new york, last two releases are awesome (parasole and phil moffa - pressure and tom diccico - no sympathy)

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:15 (seven years ago) link

though those aren't albums, ayy

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:16 (seven years ago) link

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:27 (seven years ago) link

Have enjoyed Hauschka in the past Lex (think it was Foreign Landscapes that I got into, that was very much modern chamber ensemble classical stuff though). Bit of a wait till mere mortals get to hear the new one - not out until mid-March by the looks of it.

Was giving the Mika Vainio a whirl a bit earlier. Sounds really well done but it was all a bit too austere for me. Have never quite got to grips with Pansonic either tbh so it probably wasn't meant to be.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:57 (seven years ago) link

vainio never clicked with me though on paper it sounds like exactly the kind of thing i'd dig.

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:28 (seven years ago) link

I noticed that a third volume of Thomas P. Heckmann's (aka Age, Drax, Skydiver, etc) The Lost Tales was recently released, you can play the whole album via the link. (It's not on Fax like the previous two, but on some new American label, which was apparently set up as a legacy label to Fax, since it folded with Pete Namlook's death.) Anyway, like the previous two, it collects previously unreleased material by Heckmann, some of which dates back to to the early 90s, so there's loads of trancey analogue sounds and cosmic techno goodness... And more synth solos than on his previous albums! Obviously this is very old school stuff, but since cosmic beats and Fax have always been my thing, I love it! "Berlin to Dawn" and "Ode to a Friend" especially are awesome synth freakouts.

Tuomas, Friday, 31 January 2014 23:36 (seven years ago) link

this is the perfect thread to post about:

severence - hidden ceilings
sven weisemann - inner motions
the smoke clears - listen

each of which were on my eoy ballot, and i associate them with each other. haven't really seen anyone discuss them anywhere, probably b/c they're very humble albums, but they linger in that edge of sleep space which i really love. i don't think listening to a single track really does any of them justice because they all take time to pull you in, but all three are pretty much perfect.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:09 (seven years ago) link

Fuck me, that Weisemann album is a lot better than I remembered it as this year.

xelab, Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:56 (seven years ago) link

Just digging in. So far it's a bit "safe" for me. He's always walked a line between the kind of more krautrocky experimental electronics techno that I like (think Border Community) and the kind of pretty easy listening hotel lobby electronics I don't like as much.

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 August 2020 14:26 (nine months ago) link

Yeah that’s a fair description; I tend to have the same mixed reactions to his work. Actually my favorite recent thing he’s done was a single earlier this year that didn’t wind up on the new album. It’s wobbly, low-key piano piece:

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 7 August 2020 15:54 (nine months ago) link

Shawn Rudiman's Conduit album is hitting the spot today

calzino, Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:25 (eight months ago) link

it's a bit "safe" for me

I'm very generous in my appraisal of post-elevator music of this kind, but with Rival Consoles, it's hard not to expect more. He should throw a wrench into his own formula more often.

pomenitul, Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:30 (eight months ago) link

Nathan Fakes album in the other hand is killer. People talk about it as his return to techno, I don’t really go to techno clubs much these days but other than having beats don’t see these tracks as club bangers. They’re wonderfully messy krautrock IDM or something.

dan selzer, Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:58 (eight months ago) link

Love the Nathan Fake album so much

Tim F, Saturday, 8 August 2020 16:28 (eight months ago) link

really? damn, never rated him at all

brimstead, Saturday, 8 August 2020 16:44 (eight months ago) link

anybody feeling the INTe*ra album? I’m a huge Acting Press fan but can’t really get into it for some reason

brimstead, Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:01 (eight months ago) link

I was definitely not paying attention to the sky was pink era Nathan Fake and James Holden but the stuff those guys, and Luke Abbot and Wesley Matsell have been doing the last few years is pretty great though some go a bit too modular experimental music for my taste.

dan selzer, Saturday, 8 August 2020 17:37 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

hell yeah

ciderpress, Friday, 25 September 2020 14:56 (seven months ago) link

that's great, lotsa bounce

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 15:02 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

d. tiffany & dj zozi r doing it rong

davey, Monday, 19 October 2020 07:21 (six months ago) link

I am always down for d tiffany.. thought dj rozi was one of her aliases

brimstead, Monday, 19 October 2020 19:28 (six months ago) link

it is IIRC ! :)

davey, Monday, 19 October 2020 21:36 (six months ago) link

four weeks pass...

has there been any discussion of andras' album joyful in this thread? warm, lived-in deep, verging-on-ambient house for headphones.

favs are "honeybird" and "poppy"

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Monday, 16 November 2020 23:18 (five months ago) link

"Live Forever" is the one for me off it but it's such a warm, dreamily excellent album

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 08:04 (five months ago) link

WOOOOOOOWWWWWWW at the D. Tiffany / DJ Zozi album

Tim F, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 08:04 (five months ago) link

Off the Meds (s/t) sounding pretty great

davey, Thursday, 19 November 2020 23:31 (five months ago) link

No idea if this is the right thread for it as several tracks feature prominent rapping but Shygirl's Alias EP is the kind of SOPHIE/Arca-adjacent deconstructed club music (bad descriptor but whatevz) that should be right up ILM's collective alley. Here's the Eurodancey closer:

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 22:47 (five months ago) link

Speaking of EPs, Richard Devine's LP-ish SYSTIK (46 mins) puts the ae in dance, amirite?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 23:00 (five months ago) link

I'm into it, and may also formally invite you to Rolling (post-)Reconstructed Club Music 2020

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 23:00 (five months ago) link

My bad, I keep getting that thread and this one mixed up.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 23:03 (five months ago) link

Oh idc, just making sure you weren't missing out!

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 23:08 (five months ago) link

Thx. :)

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 23:12 (five months ago) link

deep leftfield trance

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:16 (five months ago) link

ooh, now that's an enticing description

never heard of the artist and the label doesn't ring a bell but excited to listen!

the late great, Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:18 (five months ago) link

the Gigi Masin album fucking owns

lukas, Friday, 4 December 2020 23:51 (five months ago) link

the reason I don't listen to much that challenges me any more is because there's too much stuff that just seems custom designed for me to enjoy

lukas, Friday, 4 December 2020 23:52 (five months ago) link

maybe that's why i can't get into the new andras album even though i would like to

davey, Monday, 7 December 2020 12:11 (five months ago) link

Shakey sent me this:

this could be us but you throw your old electronics

— 𝔻ʀ.𝕎ᴇᴅɴᴇsᴅᴀʏ 𝕃ᴀ ℝᴏᴄʜᴀ⚰︎ (@WednesdayLa) December 10, 2020

DJI, Thursday, 10 December 2020 20:45 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

That Pretty Sneaky LP is pretty amazing, and had it been nominated for the EOY poll would have made my list.

octobeard, Monday, 18 January 2021 03:46 (three months ago) link

Yeah I probably should have nominated it, I figured no-one else had listened to it...

I only discovered this via Tim F's end of year list, but it's great too:

toby, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:58 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Pretty Sneaky LP is right up my alley, thanks for the tip.

millmeister, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 21:14 (two months ago) link

deep leftfield trance

― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:16 AM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink


lukas, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 23:25 (two months ago) link

yes! so good right?

the chanting vocals that come in at the end of “amulet” sound familiar but i’m not sure what they remind me of, maybe something from pure moods

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 10 February 2021 03:07 (two months ago) link

I totally agree! Bizarr is tremendous. Thanks!

neilasimpson, Monday, 15 February 2021 13:05 (two months ago) link

i need to go back to that record, i really liked the organizatsiya album last year which i've only just realised is on the same label:

would a nit be nice? (NickB), Monday, 15 February 2021 13:46 (two months ago) link

d. tiffany & dj zozi r doing it rong

What is it that makes this so good?

lukas, Friday, 26 February 2021 21:33 (two months ago) link

not feeling nu progressive / trance. i wish i liked d tiffany more. maybe i'll fall in love with it a few years late like i do w/ everything else lol. ok this "mtv (reality vocal)" has a nice breakdown.

map ca. 1890 (map), Friday, 26 February 2021 22:17 (two months ago) link

xp tbh i'm not big on that record. but i do think much of it would sound sick slowed down 25%+

my fav jam from them is in a slower tempo

davey, Sunday, 28 February 2021 21:35 (two months ago) link

maybe this should go on the melbourne --> vancouver thread but I really enjoy how this general spiderweb of interconnected artists / sounds manage to take in trance, progressive/early-orbital, hardcore, breakbeats, jungle, basically anything that was going on between 1992 and 1999 (including uk garage at times) in what feels like a quite open-minded / open-hearted way - as if the unifying aesthetic is less some particular sonic brief or even some kind of ideological position other than "wow the 90s would have been a great time to go raving".

Tim F, Sunday, 28 February 2021 22:49 (two months ago) link

which, tbf, is how I heard that stuff as a baby raver in '98. as far as I was concerned all these separate scenes were part of one single giant scene (sort of a sound multiverse that I imagined in my head at 3am back at someone's place after the party.)

lukas, Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:16 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

how do we feel about fred again...? i think his new release 'actual life' is just a compilation of singles and ep tracks he's dropped since last year, but it holds together very very well as an album imo. he's great at telling these stories through sample collages, mixing in some really powerful emotion. the beats still knock, too.

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 19:52 (one week ago) link

Check out the Carcass Identity EP on Phase Group if you want some sort of industrialish vibes

paolo, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 07:57 (one week ago) link

Is this the right thread to talk about 9128 style techno? I guess that would be mostly labels like A Strangely Isolated Place, Affin, and Silent Season. I'm really enjoying the newest Toki Fuko release, "Human Design", which is I think coincidentally the one song without spoken word ("coincidence", because I don't mind the spoken word stuff at all).

The whole album is kind of hypnotic, contemplative and at times eerie, and kind of feels like it fits into some kind of continuum with Donato Dozzy's "K" and Seraphim Rytm's Aeterna, as albums that can lull me into a slightly disorienting late afternoon nap.

beard papa, Friday, 30 April 2021 00:29 (one week ago) link

really nice, wasn't aware of 9128, thanks for sharing

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 30 April 2021 13:48 (one week ago) link

Wow that Toki is beautiful, looks like I've got a rabbit hole to jump into. Thanks!

Shaidar Logoff (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 3 May 2021 13:10 (four days ago) link


pomenitul, Monday, 3 May 2021 13:30 (four days ago) link

whoa yeah

ciderpress, Monday, 3 May 2021 13:34 (four days ago) link

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