Rolling techno* albums thread for people who are clearly doing it wrong

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Not being someone who ever goes out dancing I don't really want to gum up the bobbins thread with this stuff, but basically this is a thread for discussion and recommendation of new techno* records for home-listening.

*techno and related electronic music

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:49 (six years ago) link

Really enjoying the Richard Tobar and Akkord albums but realised I had no place to share this scintillating tidbit.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:50 (six years ago) link

ha wait: Richard Ricardo

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:56 (six years ago) link

off to a grand start already

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:57 (six years ago) link

(I am sad to see the death of the phrase "bobbins" because of long conversations with Anna (who coined its usage on ILM) about why she used "bobbins" and what it meant, and what it was trying to avoid. Sigh.)

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 10:59 (six years ago) link

"bobbins" has died?

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:01 (six years ago) link

i thought that was why you were using techno* instead of "bobbins"?

(I have no idea. I'm sorry. I'll go away now.)

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:04 (six years ago) link

Oh this is totally meant to be separate thing. I'm definitely an albums person in my listening habits and also more of a generalist too, so this thread is intended as a non-dance-focussed and non-expert thing, probably featuring a lot of ineptitude on my part that I would be too embarrassed and self-conscious about elsewhere.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:16 (six years ago) link

And techno* cos I have no idea about terminology, but was hoping to bring in ambient stuff as well as post-dubstep records too.

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:18 (six years ago) link

oh here we go again: non-dance-focussed non-dancing-focussed

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (six years ago) link

someone edit this already to make me look less like an imbecile

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:21 (six years ago) link

Right, so would the East India Youth album fit in here for discussion?

the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (six years ago) link

It's not really new, but I got the Stellar Om Source album from last year, and I'm really enjoying it... Reminds of me of the more technoish Warp records from the early 90s (LFO, Mike Ink, etc) in that it's both danceable and good for home-listening. It's total nostalgia stuff, sounds like it could've actually been made 20 years ago, but for a guy like me who often feels nostalgic for that era, it's hitting all the sweet spots.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:29 (six years ago) link

xp not heard it at all, so you tell me! thread police free zone here though so i say go for it

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:33 (six years ago) link

On the other hand, I can't understand the love for the new Donato Dozzy album, seems like it placed quite high in the 2013 albums poll... To me it sounds like very standard droney ambient, like a B-list Fax album or something, I don't see why people find it so exceptional. Especially considering that Voices from the Lake and K really were exceptional and very good; this one feels much more meh to me.

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:34 (six years ago) link

i need to spend more time w/ stellar om source. always enjoyed her stuff in the past though but that was more kind of free-floating astral dolphin music xps

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:36 (six years ago) link

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:39 (six years ago) link

I've never come across with anything by her before this; the earlier stuff seems pretty hard to find? Joy One Mile is not dolphin music though, it's quite kicking actually.

(xpost)

Tuomas, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:41 (six years ago) link

i think the dozzy record gets better the more attention you pay to it or else it tends to evaporate before you've taken it in, whereas VFTL sounded great even just as a background thing. didn't vote for dozzy though, wasn't even the best thing on that label last year (cos that was the quicksails record)

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (six years ago) link

(though i think this is a potentially useful distinction anyway, home-listening and album-focused electronic music rather than club-focused; the EOY polls always demonstrate there's interest in this)

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:42 (six years ago) link

doesn't "bobbins" just mean "rolling thread"

you're probably better asking a person who knows what they're talking about tbh

keiji cretins (NickB), Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:43 (six years ago) link

that was directed at branwell - I didn't think it actually "meant" anything in the way implied.

Tim F, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:45 (six years ago) link

bobbins ain't dead anyway house and techno bobbins 2014

lex pretend, Thursday, 30 January 2014 11:48 (six years ago) link

Nope, and it was actually Anna F that coined the term "bobbins" because she was at that time writing for (big name UK based dance music magazine) and there were BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR feuds between staff members about what was "Techno" and what was "House" and the differences between tiny micro-genres. And it was a running joke in her house that to avoid the death-match-feuds, to just call it all "dance... bobbins".

I cannot believe that I know stuff about the deep history of obscure ILM terms, but I guess this was just stuff we talked about while DJing.

I, too, would be happy to have an albums-based electronic bobbins thread, because I am LOL old and haven't danced in years.

these birches is awful (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:06 (six years ago) link

Two recent albums I've been enjoying that might fit into this thread:

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima
Ukkonen: The Ancient Tonalities of...

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:17 (six years ago) link

yeah this is my kind of rolling thread, good call Nick

I get a lot of opportunity to check out new electronic releases but nowhere near enough to go raving or generally do much more than sort of mooch at the edge of the attendant culture

wilful brony (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:18 (six years ago) link

Not a big fan of dividing "home" listening from "club" listening, as the delineation is fluid and arbitrary, but this is also only a personal take...but then similiarly I'm not a fan of microgenre naming either

but heres something which might fit,

https://soundcloud.com/richardzepezauer/bulldozers-from-nsyde-part-2

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:50 (six years ago) link

Also, e/tape https://soundcloud.com/etape/t-12 though its maybe too sleepy even for this thread

cog, Thursday, 30 January 2014 12:53 (six years ago) link

Hello. I'll be lurking in your thread. I may even post if I feel moved to listen to any music which is not either a year old and already discussed on ILX or 30 years old.

(like BB, also LOL too old to dance now and regretting that I spent my dancing-age years feeling that clubs were not welcoming spaces for me, lol indie kids, lol ugly women, etc)

not a player-hater i just hate a lot (a passing spacecadet), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:21 (six years ago) link

down with this thread (I am, that is)

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 30 January 2014 13:38 (six years ago) link

Just been listening to Mika Vainio's new Konstellaatio album in his more ambient/less abrasive zero guise and it is very beautiful electronic head music, if that is what you are angling at in this thread.

xelab, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:12 (six years ago) link

Yeah 99% of the dance music I hear now is "home listening" even it's totally banging and dancefloor-centric (and there are whole albums of that sort of stuff as well).

Bobbins will never die.

Matt DC, Thursday, 30 January 2014 14:26 (six years ago) link

Was just listening to Konstalaatio today - very nice.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 31 January 2014 00:57 (six years ago) link

New NHK'Koyxen album is out at last, which I've been looking forward to for a while. It's on Pan again, which is maybe better known for electronic art music, but the last one was great hall-of-mirrors machine music with subtlety mind-disordering rhythmic effects and a lot of people's favourite on that label along with the Lee Gamble one.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:35 (six years ago) link

http://d1wtzzt4oxg683.cloudfront.net/images/covers/160/144660.jpg

^ so pretty!

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:38 (six years ago) link

Steve Moore: Pangea Ultima

dunno if it's just me but i find this his weakest release thus far. still good, but a bit watertready

föllakzoidberg (electricsound), Friday, 31 January 2014 11:39 (six years ago) link

yeah I didn't find much call to give it a second listen

the first cologne based on a sea-captain based celebrity (seandalai), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:01 (six years ago) link

really loving this new hauschka album - http://www.cityslang.com/releases/64220/abandoned-city/ - fans of nils frahm would be into it i think

lex pretend, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:04 (six years ago) link

i'm really into pangaea ultima

the late great, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:06 (six years ago) link

i keep being impressed / doing double takes whenever tracks from peter van hoesen's live performance come up on shuffle. it's still p microproduced but has a looser vibe i seem to be keying in on.

i feel like i sample from a lot of recent techno that just doesn't grab me, maybe i'm only paying half attention, seems like the production is samey in an immaculate way but there isn't any fire and it's all airless and boring. one example is the conforce album, just zzzzz imo

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:09 (six years ago) link

oops i think it's life performance

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:12 (six years ago) link

also want to rep for anthony parasole's label the corner out of new york, last two releases are awesome (parasole and phil moffa - pressure and tom diccico - no sympathy)

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:15 (six years ago) link

though those aren't albums, ayy

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 16:16 (six years ago) link

i don't post to ilm about a big chunk of the new music i listen to, because it falls between the cracks of the rap/techno/etc threads. lots of pretty post-beat scene electronic music that sounds best on headphones but could work in a club in the right context, maybe.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 January 2014 16:27 (six years ago) link

Have enjoyed Hauschka in the past Lex (think it was Foreign Landscapes that I got into, that was very much modern chamber ensemble classical stuff though). Bit of a wait till mere mortals get to hear the new one - not out until mid-March by the looks of it.

Was giving the Mika Vainio a whirl a bit earlier. Sounds really well done but it was all a bit too austere for me. Have never quite got to grips with Pansonic either tbh so it probably wasn't meant to be.

keiji cretins (NickB), Friday, 31 January 2014 17:57 (six years ago) link

vainio never clicked with me though on paper it sounds like exactly the kind of thing i'd dig.

Matt P, Friday, 31 January 2014 21:28 (six years ago) link

I noticed that a third volume of Thomas P. Heckmann's (aka Age, Drax, Skydiver, etc) The Lost Tales was recently released, you can play the whole album via the link. (It's not on Fax like the previous two, but on some new American label, which was apparently set up as a legacy label to Fax, since it folded with Pete Namlook's death.) Anyway, like the previous two, it collects previously unreleased material by Heckmann, some of which dates back to to the early 90s, so there's loads of trancey analogue sounds and cosmic techno goodness... And more synth solos than on his previous albums! Obviously this is very old school stuff, but since cosmic beats and Fax have always been my thing, I love it! "Berlin to Dawn" and "Ode to a Friend" especially are awesome synth freakouts.

Tuomas, Friday, 31 January 2014 23:36 (six years ago) link

this is the perfect thread to post about:

severence - hidden ceilings
sven weisemann - inner motions
and
the smoke clears - listen

each of which were on my eoy ballot, and i associate them with each other. haven't really seen anyone discuss them anywhere, probably b/c they're very humble albums, but they linger in that edge of sleep space which i really love. i don't think listening to a single track really does any of them justice because they all take time to pull you in, but all three are pretty much perfect.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:09 (six years ago) link

Fuck me, that Weisemann album is a lot better than I remembered it as this year.

xelab, Saturday, 1 February 2014 00:56 (six years ago) link

this can't be right but ... no one reviewed this? except for like one guy on discogs?

lukas, Friday, 14 February 2020 00:48 (one month ago) link

This came out in 2016 but I think defo merits inclusion here.

Pavel Milyakov - Yalta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2egpBt7_Q0s&list=OLAK5uy_mP980gAYgLuGXAW7RPlMAo2e3vlc8B80o

neilasimpson, Saturday, 15 February 2020 11:26 (one month ago) link

Ah, crap. I forget that linking to playlists doesn't seem to work here, or at least that I haven't figured out how to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS4SaeJfUPk

neilasimpson, Saturday, 15 February 2020 11:28 (one month ago) link

ooh i like that track, reminds me of back when Kassem Mosse was weird and kinda lo fi

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:39 (one month ago) link

Yeah, this is very nice. I see he dropped an LP last year – is it in the same vein as 'Dungeon'?

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:47 (one month ago) link

I've not listened to it I'm afraid. I did listen to a couple of tracks that he released as the much less impressively named buttechno but didn't get along with them too well and wasn't inspired to find out more.

In other exciting news, The Orion Years by Age, from 1994, has just been reissued. It's one of the early releases on mille plateaux and is magnificent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTRER8gwSfM&t=5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGn3JHY_YVo

neilasimpson, Monday, 24 February 2020 17:18 (one month ago) link

Apologies for the errors with the video links. Not sure what I've done wrong with that first one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahxCkxBUxDg

neilasimpson, Monday, 24 February 2020 17:19 (one month ago) link

And finally for now I think - Function's Existenz is a really great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9gVBRF3eVU

neilasimpson, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 18:03 (one month ago) link

excited to listen to that

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 25 February 2020 18:23 (one month ago) link

it went in a different direction than I was expecting than the last one! more melodic and chill

mh, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 18:33 (one month ago) link

that is, after the last one

mh, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 18:34 (one month ago) link

While I'm on something very vaguely resembling a roll, I can also suggest Donnacha Costello's Colorseries. I have a very dusty memory of reading that Michael Mayer described this as 'This decade's (2000s) Basic Channel'. Highlights for me being

Rubine Red (b)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PSWTWHmaVc

and

Blue (b)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_se70EU6vU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_se70EU6vU

neilasimpson, Tuesday, 25 February 2020 20:52 (one month ago) link

i consider colorseries bobbins canon

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 25 February 2020 21:15 (one month ago) link

Ah, interesting.

neilasimpson, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:19 (one month ago) link

i might be wrong tho? maybe i just associate it with the height of the bobbins era, when pretty melodic minimal was king

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:06 (one month ago) link

yeah, I’d put them in there

mh, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 15:03 (one month ago) link

Feeling the Beatrice Dillon album on Pan even though I'm not normally a fan of IDMish music that's clearly inspired by music that's made for the dancefloor but isn't actually dancefloor-friendly itself

paolo, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:08 (one month ago) link

Lovely artwork too

paolo, Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:08 (one month ago) link

Yeah that Dillon is excellent, need to spend some proper time with that but there were some stunning moments on first pass. That use of traditional instrumentation in a electronic music context made me think of the recent Floating Points but way more stripped down and spacious instead off being so overloaded with sounds.

ymo sumac (NickB), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 21:36 (one month ago) link

"i might be wrong tho? maybe i just associate it with the height of the bobbins era, when pretty melodic minimal was king"

I'm not sure either. I think there's a massive grey area between this thread and the bobbins threads and I'm not sure I totally understand the difference between them. Although I do find that I'm much more likely to find things I like, and that I would be more likely to dance to, and to listen to at home, here. I'd love to hear any of those colorseries tracks in a club but, despite my efforts, haven't ever done so. Same with Basic Channel tbh.

neilasimpson, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:45 (one month ago) link

i've heard some pretty sweet dj sets integrating basic channel tracks, including a pretty awesome one by moritz von oswald!

mh, Thursday, 27 February 2020 15:54 (one month ago) link

I think there's a massive grey area between this thread and the bobbins threads and I'm not sure I totally understand the difference between them.


this thread is for albums, the bobbins thread is for tracks

brimstead, Thursday, 27 February 2020 21:57 (one month ago) link

also this thread is darker imo

brimstead, Thursday, 27 February 2020 21:58 (one month ago) link

what are we ashamed of? why can't we just say it? that's the house/techno thread, this is the electronica thread.

lukas, Thursday, 27 February 2020 22:02 (one month ago) link

techno thread versus teshno thread

mh, Thursday, 27 February 2020 22:30 (one month ago) link

“ this thread is for albums, the bobbins thread is for tracks”

I don’t think this was ever the case tbh

ed.b, Friday, 28 February 2020 00:44 (one month ago) link

damn really?

brimstead, Friday, 28 February 2020 01:12 (one month ago) link

it has albums in the name

brimstead, Friday, 28 February 2020 01:13 (one month ago) link

Yeah I thought this was basically for albums that aren’t dance floor oriented

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 28 February 2020 01:19 (one month ago) link

+ vaguely techno related

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Friday, 28 February 2020 01:19 (one month ago) link

AOEDM

ciderpress, Friday, 28 February 2020 02:29 (one month ago) link

Currently rotating:

Katie Gately
Vladislav Delay
Nathan Fake (Providence from 2017)
Against All Logic
Air Texture VII (Rrose and Silent Servant)

So much good shit right now

lukas, Friday, 28 February 2020 19:54 (one month ago) link

been listening to the second half of that Air Texture mix a lot this week

mh, Friday, 28 February 2020 20:02 (one month ago) link

"“ this thread is for albums, the bobbins thread is for tracks”

I don’t think this was ever the case tbh"

I think I'd always thought of the bobbins threads as for kinds of music that I might actually hear in clubs, whereas this thread is for music that I'd like to hear in clubs, and that would probably work really well in them, but more than likely wouldn't get played (which makes my posts about Donnacha Costello look a tad awry in retrospect). I think this thread is more dancefloor specific than being for electronica generally. I probably wouldn't post about autechre here, although they are clearly related to techno. I would post about Mouse on Mars. I no longer go to clubs.

neilasimpson, Sunday, 1 March 2020 21:52 (one month ago) link

I think this thread is more dancefloor specific than being for electronica generally.

Yeah okay that scans, we have moodz and I guess various idm/experimental threads for the rest.

lukas, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 19:09 (one month ago) link

feel like this fits the spirit:

https://hausofaltr.bandcamp.com/album/a-new-dawn-hoa007

Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 19:35 (one month ago) link

Still blown away by Nathan Micay's album from last year, Blue Spring. Has a good deal of diversity but still feels like a world unto itself. Something to get lost in. Here's the title track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UbUQ2VuS3M

Indexed, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 23:04 (one month ago) link

ERP's Exomoon is an electro belter. More than likely good on dancefloors in some parts; 101% excellent at home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loo5LfF4uLc

It's probably best to avoid leaving the house in order to listen to Yagya's Rhythm of Snow, on Force Inc. originally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GYY6JJTuo4

neilasimpson, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 18:34 (one month ago) link

Actually, that Yagya record isn't anywhere near new. Do we need a separate thread for Rolling techno* albums thread for people who have previously been clearly doing it wrong (or have I missed that somewhere)?

neilasimpson, Wednesday, 4 March 2020 19:14 (one month ago) link

As a perennial electro dilettante, I tend to find one or things a year I like that scratch the itch for me. The Beatrice Dillon one is the one for me so far this year, I've had it going on a loop all week. Perfect music to work and write to.

Feel free to recommend other things I'd like if I like that!

Belated cosign for the Beatrice Dillon. It's making me think of some Hessle Audio and other things I can't quite place: possibly Steve Reich, Dawn of Midi. I can't quite make out how it's made.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 10 March 2020 21:09 (four weeks ago) link

thanks for the Yagya neil

lukas, Tuesday, 10 March 2020 22:32 (four weeks ago) link

this reissue of Move D & Benjamin Brunn "Let's Call It A Day" getting me there

darker sound palette than Songs From The Beehive but still v v chill and atmospheric

lukas, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 00:00 (two weeks ago) link

this reissue of Move D & Benjamin Brunn "Let's Call It A Day" getting me there

darker sound palette than Songs From The Beehive but still v v chill and atmospheric


Yeah this is one of my most listened to albums this year, I’m on 30 plays already. There is so much great stuff in Move D’s back catalogue but this is a real highlight. I think I probably prefer it to Beehive.

toby, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 08:26 (two weeks ago) link

This is absolutely hitting the spot tonight. The title track is blissful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I_PI2e3m54

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:22 (two weeks ago) link

Like a soothing bubble bath

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 20:43 (two weeks ago) link

So do I post about Traumprinz here or in the bobbins thread? I feel he's perhaps a bit borderline between the two

octobeard, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:03 (two weeks ago) link

Is there a new Traumprinz?!?!?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 10:41 (one week ago) link

Post it everywhere!

Frederik B, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 10:41 (one week ago) link


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