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Just heard this from a few months ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFtMl-uipA8

I like very much. What's the story, where to next, etc.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:03 (five years ago) link

twigs

Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:04 (five years ago) link

twigs

flopson, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:04 (five years ago) link

lol

flopson, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:04 (five years ago) link

twigs

SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:05 (five years ago) link

<3 twigs, but let's not lie to ourselves, Arca is the real draw.

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2014 18:06 (five years ago) link

The Arca production is sweet, but I'm also a fan of her whispery tones.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:06 (five years ago) link

So it's Arca or it's twigs or it's both or it's more or...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:10 (five years ago) link

First ep was released in 2012 as twigs. In a pre-emptive move on her part to avoid a clash with another artist named twigs, she changed the name to FKA twigs before releasing the second ep in 2013. Arca has handle the production/beat-making on both iirc, and she writes and sings. Album in 2014 perhaps? Hope so.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:13 (five years ago) link

Man that's involved. Anyway, thanks for the clearup.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:15 (five years ago) link

I can't stand Water Me from the singles poll. I've listened to it through about a dozen times and still nothing sticks for me. She has an aggravating quality to it that reminds me of Peter Gabriel for some reason. I tried to bait jjj into talking shit about it on his anti-shriekfest thread, but it turned out he dug it. I just listened to another track (Papi Pacify) that seems more substantial to me though.

how's life, Monday, 27 January 2014 18:28 (five years ago) link

I like "Papi Pacify" (and ummmmmm, the video! I am here for all this gorgeous black people engaging in kink!). "Water Me" does nothing for me tho.

raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Monday, 27 January 2014 20:17 (five years ago) link

oh, I had the video on in a separate tab! :D

how's life, Monday, 27 January 2014 20:18 (five years ago) link

i love both of these eps, love this chick, love her producer, love her movie directors, will always support good looking multiethnic groups of teens doing pretentious Fashion things

max, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 03:25 (five years ago) link

I just came here for the distended eyes

octobeard, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 04:16 (five years ago) link

really admire anyone who has never experienced the type of insecurity that lets them hear something in "water me"

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 04:21 (five years ago) link

really now?

raggett neds of your summer dress (The Reverend), Tuesday, 28 January 2014 05:27 (five years ago) link

Okay before I forget, that user name rules. (I am biased.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 January 2014 05:43 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

YES

Wonderful cover, and it looks like none of the tracks are repeated from either EP. Can't wait.

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Monday, 9 June 2014 17:26 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://disconaivete.com/post/89694315611

Hit play on the soundcloud embed, scroll ahead to the 30:00 mark. Then get gut punched by "Two Weeks".

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 June 2014 22:55 (five years ago) link

yeah this sounds kind of incredible, wow

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 23 June 2014 23:01 (five years ago) link

perfect

festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 23 June 2014 23:05 (five years ago) link

Just checked Amazon and the mp3 single is out tomorrow (I'd presume the same holds true for iTunes).

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 June 2014 23:10 (five years ago) link

this is perhaps the first time i have found her interesting. earlier songs were way too wispy and distant for me; this seems way less brittle

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 12:54 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yDP9MKVhZc

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:35 (five years ago) link

so is this Arca, or?

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:14 (five years ago) link

that song is delightful!

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 14:55 (five years ago) link

holy shit

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 16:43 (five years ago) link

so is this Arca, or?

She said in the little interviewlet with Ellie Goulding yesterday that she's actually been doing some production herself. Whether this is one of them or not, I don't know yet.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 17:31 (five years ago) link

Goddamn

, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 20:33 (five years ago) link

Amazing song, amazing video

Who is bankrolling this?

, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 20:33 (five years ago) link

XL presumably

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 20:40 (five years ago) link

so is this Arca, or?

She said in the little interviewlet with Ellie Goulding yesterday that she's actually been doing some production herself. Whether this is one of them or not, I don't know yet.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, June 25, 2014 3:31 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think this one was a Clams Casino production.

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:13 (five years ago) link

if so this is the first time i've enjoyed a clams thing in years

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:33 (five years ago) link

and the first time i've enjoyed a fka twigs thing anyway

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:33 (five years ago) link

v v v good

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:34 (five years ago) link

This is definitely a bold clam xp

, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:36 (five years ago) link

I think this one was a Clams Casino production.

nah he said on twitter that he didn't produce it.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 21:42 (five years ago) link

Just twigged (har har) that the vid is probably a response/take on Kanye's Power vid?

What are earlier examples?

, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:06 (five years ago) link

http://twitter.com/clammyclams/status/481446543598579712

― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:43 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, that's some shonky journalism by Pitchfork and a host of others then.

ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:23 (five years ago) link

Annnd new interview

http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/06/meet-fka-twigs-musics-new-fashion-darling.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 01:22 (five years ago) link

"Two Weeks" has completely taken over my brain

basically I can't go more than 45 minutes without humming either this song or "Dark Horse"

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 15:00 (five years ago) link

^^ minus the Dark Horse part

, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 15:10 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Two Weeks" has really changed the way I think about her - I hope the rest of the LP avoids the pallid and watery early songs (which I tried really hard to love, but just couldn't latch onto for whatever reason) and more full-bodied like the newest single. She seems like a pretty cool person in any case: http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/9460-fka-twigs/

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 06:38 (five years ago) link

I still think the songs on the eps are gorgeous and really can't comprehend how they're unlikeable—particularly "Water Me," which seems to be the one most scorned—but I'm looking forward to whatever her next move is.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 06:47 (five years ago) link

leaked. if you need me, i'll be over here listening to this one on a loop for the next couple days.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 July 2014 01:11 (five years ago) link

this album is a real endorphin releaser.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 01:19 (five years ago) link

i love "two weeks" and i think i also love "pendulum" but at this point i'm not convinced by the rest

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 02:29 (five years ago) link

beautiful record. can't wait to continue listening to it over the weekend.

winters (josh), Saturday, 9 November 2019 02:19 (one week ago) link

Am a fan of Twigs but am hugely turned off by the trend of distorted face covers ie St. Vincent, Juana Molina. Not a productive comment, I know.

Yelploaf, Saturday, 9 November 2019 04:02 (one week ago) link

I have seen Twigs perform 3 times and I think she is one of the greatest live acts of the 2010s. I always try to catch her shows when I can.

Do you like Pink?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 9 November 2019 11:41 (one week ago) link

xpost

i like the distorted face covers. i can see how they're offputting to some, but i like that they're pushing back against expectations of how a female pop star should present themselves. we often tend to see the male equivalent as adventurous or artistic or mischievous (the peter gabriel facemelt, richard d james smile + a million other things he's done), whereas the female version as just grotesque. plus it also pushes against the trend from the past few several years of covers featuring close-ups of the artist looking up and 3/4 to the side, as if they had just seen the face of god (and often with the celestial light shining across their perfect features). it's cool to take that as a starting point and then work against it, i think.

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Saturday, 9 November 2019 15:40 (one week ago) link

I really do not like this styling of singing. Nails on a chalkboard.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:10 (one week ago) link

The cover(s) are great! Also fit in with the bjork references earlier.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:19 (one week ago) link

heard the whole thing. unsurprisingly i think it's not so great (for example 'home with you' and 'cellophane' are kinda radiohead and not in a way i enjoy). surprisingly i really like 'fallen alien' though.

imago, Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:03 (one week ago) link

heard the whole thing. surprisingly i think it's not so great too! sorta uninspired tori amos retread. I expected holy terrain to be my least favorite track but it might be the best thing on the album!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:29 (one week ago) link

maybe i need to relisten a few more times. fallen alien isn't terrible either. First three tracks just sound bad!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:30 (one week ago) link

This album bangs and I really like the different shades she brings out in her voice across the various songs

brigadier pudding (DJP), Sunday, 10 November 2019 15:58 (one week ago) link

That first pair of EPs was something else. It's been mostly downhill ever since.

The Radiohead-ishness of it all is obviously fine in my book and I mostly enjoy the album while it's on but none of its songs stick.

pomenitul, Sunday, 10 November 2019 17:03 (one week ago) link

I’ve tried to appreciate the first two EPs multiple times but I cannot get into them at all

brigadier pudding (DJP), Sunday, 10 November 2019 19:13 (one week ago) link

yeah i'm the same, that 2014 post of mine up thread still stands - it wasn't until "two weeks" that things clicked for me.

new album is great, "sad day", "cellophane" and "mirrored heart" in particular

monotony, Sunday, 10 November 2019 23:33 (one week ago) link

i certainly hear the Tori Amos comparison but it's hardly a retread - even at its weirdest From the Choirgirl Hotel is still a keys-playing-singer-songwriter-with-a-band record while this is much more electronic obviously. it's very much a modern take on that sort of gloomy late 90s sound

don't really hear Radiohead beyond "cellophane" being vaguely similar to the sort of piano ballad with cool sound design they've done occasionally

ufo, Monday, 11 November 2019 02:04 (one week ago) link

it's more the "performative vulnerability" aspect than the instrumentation, for me

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 11 November 2019 02:16 (one week ago) link

three spins, i'm tapping out. loved the EPs, this is not my jam.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 11 November 2019 05:39 (one week ago) link

"home with you" may be my favorite thing she's done to date

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 11 November 2019 13:50 (one week ago) link

also she is a fucking stunning singer as evidenced by the version of "home with you" in the link ufo posted

brigadier pudding (DJP), Monday, 11 November 2019 13:59 (one week ago) link

I don't know what the people who dislike this are hearing but I can only assume they are listening to some other album because this album is great.

akm, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:13 (one week ago) link

It's only getting better for me. Wasn't totally sure about Cellophane as a first single, but it's an amazing closer.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:24 (one week ago) link

it's not 100 percent my thing but i like it much better than lp1, many stunning moments

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:27 (one week ago) link

everyone is correct about "fallen alien"

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:27 (one week ago) link

And I wouldn't want a whole record that sounds like Holy Terrain, but it works in the album

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 22:28 (one week ago) link

I don't know what the people who dislike this are hearing but I can only assume they are listening to some other album because this album is great.

This. I need a few more spins but this is AOTY material imo

Roz, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:23 (one week ago) link

what i'm hearing is uninspired production, trite lyrics, painfully sing-song delivery and heavily manufactured attempts at emotional resonance that feel disjointed and clumsy. what i'm not hearing is the pensive, mysterious R&B from the first two EPs or m3ll155x.
I mean, all credit to you that you're enjoying this, but it's not impossible to imagine it not resonating with any number of listeners.
last album that i had this severe a break with popular opinion may have been arca, which this sounds a bit like i suppose.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:34 (one week ago) link

i don't love this to the degree some do but there's a lot to like about it and i don't hear any sort of drastic falloff from her previous work at all - "cellophane" and "sad day" are career highs

ufo, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:59 (one week ago) link

I’m having trouble digesting the album as a whole, but tbh I’m still stuck over how precious Cellophane is.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 07:51 (one week ago) link

fyi, the entire artwork on the album cover is a strong, strong argument for buying physical media

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:16 (one week ago) link

"painfully sing-song delivery" uh, ok.

akm, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 17:52 (one week ago) link

TIL forks/ulysses doesn't like singing

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:05 (one week ago) link

lol, okay man.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:20 (one week ago) link

Well, what does "sing-song delivery" mean?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:24 (one week ago) link

Because, in the context of describing someone's singing/chanting in a song, it reads as "singing". She's not talking on the phone on this album.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:25 (one week ago) link

like she's reading a nursery rhyme over a metronome. or, more accurately, freestyle vamping along to the sophomore classical guitar dude's noodling in the quad.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:27 (one week ago) link

It's a weird af pop record, not surprised it's not everyone's cup of tea. But the specific critiques of "uninspired production" and "heavily manufactured attempts at emotional resonance" are quite silly imo. Production is pretty incredible, and the lyrics sound as genuine as I've ever heard from her. Yes it's the opposite of how she's presented herself in the past, but not any less effective. Seeing her in person perform these songs certainly emphasizes this, especially when she sequences shit like Two Weeks and Cellophane back to back to close a show.

On the mastering front, this album has more dynamic range than any pop record released this year that I've heard, and just sounds utterly gorgeous on a great system. Production is immaculate.

octobeard, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:28 (one week ago) link

I am going to need you to point me to an example of what you are referencing, forks, because right now I am concerned that you're having a stroke and it's impairing your faculties

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:33 (one week ago) link

don't know what to tell you! I've now gone through it four times and the production bores the hell out of me. "Thousand Eyes" lyrics wouldn't be particularly revealing in a high school yearbook.

it's okay that you love it and want to defend it but "silly" isn't any sort of insight.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:34 (one week ago) link

If you'd like an example, thousand eyes is a good start? sad day has some of that tick-tock super-mannered lilt too.
or jeez, it's not singsongy but lord is 'daybed' leaden.
anyways, i'm clearly swimming upstream with you guys. I really wanted to like it! I'd like to hear what you're hearing! Can't help that I'm hearing what I'm hearing! It's not good tho.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:36 (one week ago) link

if it makes you feel any better, i don't care much for kate bush either.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:36 (one week ago) link

The point of "thousand eyes" is the setting/arrangement of the lyrics, not the raw lyrics themselves, which is self-evident in the simplicity of the lyrics and the overlapping, increasing density of the vocal instrumental arrangement.

"sad day" is just... how singing a song works? Does it read as "mannered" to you because you can hear her accent or something?

"daybed" is the closest she gets on this album to the more static bits of the first two EPs and I pretty much gloss over it every time it plays.

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:40 (one week ago) link

If you don't care for Kate Bush, then yeah - we'll just have to agree to disagree here. I would go much deeper into specifics on the production side of things (as that's where I have more knowledge from a technical and creative standpoint), but given that statement regarding Kate, not sure it's worth it lol. Sometimes ya gotta just move on. Kinda how I feel about Big Thief tbh.

octobeard, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:42 (one week ago) link

1000 eyes: i understand how round singing works; the "density" never really hits any kind of crescendo except for a big MILLENNIAL BUZZ (cf arca), fairydust piano noodling and backtracked vocals, none of which move me at all.

sad day: i would call "would you make-a make-a make-a make-a wish on my love aaahahahahah" to be mannered. strangely and perhaps not surprisingly given the past decade of my posting on this board, i listen to any number of songs in which you can "hear accents" and they don't read as mannered.

octo: i don't think the production is clumsy or underconsidered, it's just not working for me! fwiw, i don't like Big Thief either!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:46 (one week ago) link

lol sad days came up on a playlist now and my 1st thought was ugh this singing is so mannered, who is this and why does she do that

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:47 (one week ago) link

anyways yeah, i'm good to move on and chalk this one up as my bad in general? Y'all may remember my schtick is that I try to find the good in whatever I listen to, hence my surprise this album that I was very excited to listen to by an artist whose work i love and who i like live a lot had no resonance for me.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:48 (one week ago) link

I'm still trying to imagine Thom Yorke singing 'Cellophane' and I just can't. Chris Martin, however...

It's still the one song here that doesn't work for me, it's actually too conventional for her. One of the most interesting things about Twigs is the way she positions herself as a voice in space (and, live, as a body in space) with dozens of other elements in orbit around her. It's why sound design is so important to all her records.

But there's something about the way she uses her voice on this that really makes it - turning herself into a choral ensemble on 'Thousand Eyes', the way 'Home With You' moves from anxious Tricky Eilish rasp to full-on Kick Inside swoop. And that's saying nothing about the moment where it suddenly blooms into a flurry of woodwinds.

It's one reason why Future makes sense as a collaborator - in that the timbre of his voice works so well when it's just used as part of the wider texture - but also why his own verse seems so prosaic in comparison to everything else.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:52 (one week ago) link

"Cellophane" is the other song I am pretty much unconvinced by

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:09 (one week ago) link

I think I like it precisely because it’s quite different and “naked” to mostly everything else she has recorded, it’s very revelatory of her actual talent as a singer. I didn’t doubt she could sing before but I wasn’t too sure I’d love hearing her do a piano ballad. It’s not much but she also sprinkles some subtle, atmospheric touches and some well placed glitch effects in there.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:17 (one week ago) link

no slappers on this record but it's still p good

davey, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 20:34 (one week ago) link

I was kind of half-hearted about attending her Boston show next week but with this album + her newer greater live voice I'm suddenly very excited.

Turangalila, Friday, 15 November 2019 17:35 (six days ago) link

She's never particularly registered to me before this -- the only thing I ever went back to was the Melissa EP -- but I really like this album. Lush and melodic, super Kate Bush-y in places. "Fallen Alien" is great both on its own and also as a sort of one-song reduction of the entire Hounds of Love album.


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