Who said rock was dead?

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Hmm.. I notice Pink and Avril Lavigne are both pretty much established among the kids now. Sure, they may not be rock, but they are clearly closer to rock than any of the pop music that has been dominating the singles charts for years and years.

I also see kids more often searching for old Iron Maiden and Metallica CDs in the shops. Not that I am a fan of metal, but still interesting to see that even the kids are looking for rock these days. I mean, sure, rock has always been selling to 30 somethings and 40 somethings, but now it seems the kids are picking it up too.

I am also happy about the fact that, at least here in Norway, the Idol artists seem to be given a rather rock/powerpop oriented musical style than the first Idol acts in UK did. I mean, more Robbie Williams than Westlife.

No, I am not a rocker, more like a pop fan, but pop as in melodic and well-produced, not as in popular.
I certainly don't want metal to come back and get the same dominant position it had during the 80s. But after 15 years of hip-hop and R&B dominating the kids' musical taste, it is nice to see something else dominating finally.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

And I just woke up from a nap.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

"dominating"

Symplistic (shmuel), Sunday, 3 October 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

i wouldnt say rock is 'finally dominating'. esp. not the dominating part.

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 4 October 2004 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link

All this talk of domination is putting me in the mood for Judas Priest. Welcome back, Geir!

the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 4 October 2004 00:26 (nineteen years ago) link

All this talk of domination is putting me in the mood for Judas Priest.

Then let me recommend "Master And Servant" by Depeche Mode. :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 4 October 2004 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to believe you, Geir. I accept pop is dominant in Norway. Hip hop is dominant in the US of A.

geoff emerick, Monday, 4 October 2004 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Rock is not dead, but it certainly should be.

daavid (daavid), Monday, 4 October 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Rock is not dead, it just smells funny.

nickn (nickn), Monday, 4 October 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to believe you, Geir. I accept pop is dominant in Norway. Hip hop is dominant in the US of A.

*sniff* God bless america.

djdee2005 (djdee2005), Monday, 4 October 2004 01:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to believe you, Geir. I accept pop is dominant in Norway. Hip hop is dominant in the US of A.

In USA there is a large African American audience that will always buy that kind of stuff. Just hopefully white American kids will soon tire of it, the way white youth all over Europe seem to these days.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 4 October 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

rock's not dominating, but it *has* been funny to see all these dedicated Dance-Music-Only guys wake up to the fact that their noise isn't flavour of the month anymore, and merely being more 'futuristic' than rock'n'roll isn't going to help you when the trend snaps back and slaps you in the face. rock'n'roll was never 'dead' anymore than dance music is the 'future' versus rock'n'roll - this is art and entertainment, and the developmental line has never been linear, rather an ever-expanding cycle.

stevie (stevie), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:03 (nineteen years ago) link

haha geir you obviously haven't seen enough enough upper middle class white boy freestyle sessions. not that your tongue isn't wedged in your cheek or anything (that is, i certainly hope it is!)

jake b. (cerybut), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

In USA there is a large African American audience that will always buy that kind of stuff. Just hopefully white American kids will soon tire of it, the way white youth all over Europe seem to these days.

How's that? In Finland at least rap is more popular than it ever was. And citing a couple of teenage pop stars with a rockish style don't mean rock's back. In the nineties there still were popular rock bands, but nowadays they're getting harder and harder to find. When I was a teenager about 50% of the videos MTV were rock, now it's like 5%.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"MTV showed"

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 4 October 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link

And citing a couple of teenage pop stars with a rockish style don't mean rock's back.

It still means that the kids are getting used to a different way of writing and performing songs, a way more similar to the way their parents' favourite music is played.

In not too long, the first hip-hop fans will have teenage kids, who will accordingly have no opportunity to use hip-hop to rebel against their parents.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 4 October 2004 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

theyll probably still use hip hop, the same way milions of offspring of the first rock fans just went on to make more rock.

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread is RASCIST

Professor Challenger (ex machina), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Dizzy Rascalist?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

so what if todays white kids like hip hop more than rock? all the british white rock artists of the 60s loved blues and R&B more than half the white british pop that was out at the time.

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

What people on this thread are forgetting is that Geir is completely fucking irrational and insane.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Is Geir Burzum

Professor Challenger (ex machina), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

That would actually explain a lot.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

That's what makes this thread so enjoyable.

Xpost x 2

Jedmond (Jedmond), Monday, 4 October 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

ROCK FOREVAHHHHHHH! DIE HIP HOP! DIE!

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Who said rock was dead?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

journalists.

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, and lenny kravitz. he did that song rock n roll is dead. and then prince did an answer back called rock n roll is alive (and it lives in MPLS).

splooge (thesplooge), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

metal was alive and kicking at the Anthrax/Dio show friday night.

kephm (kephm), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I just remind everyone what is in Geir's slsk folder?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

When I was a teenager about 50% of the videos MTV [showed] were rock, now it's like 5%.
MTV shows videos!?
When did they go back to doing that?
Apparently never when I turn to that station. I thought they switched over to "all shitty reality shows, all the time" format.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, you can

x-post

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I just remind everyone what is in Geir's slsk folder?
Please do.
I'm morbidly fascinated.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Let's just say it ain't the corpse of Bernie Lomax.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

!!?!??! just say

Professor Challenger (ex machina), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

He's Geir from the block
He aint never gonna stop
He told all you niggaz
He likes melodic pop

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks! That made my day!

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 4 October 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

sixteen years pass...

anyone ever read the 1959 project blog?
https://the1959project.com/
it's about 1959 jazz, every single day of it. great read.

anyway, in the last post, covering the jazz events of December 31, 1959, is this neat little article by Stanely Robertson, writing for the Los Angeles Sentinel:

https://i.imgur.com/IreClV0.png

sorry, that's the only image of it, and it's tiny. but gotta love these paragraphs near the end:

A tribe of guitar playing teenagers stole the basic beat from the old jazz-tinged "race music" of the 1930s and 1940s and created rock 'n roll, much to the displeasure of the nation's adults, but, much to the pleasure of the country's teenagers.

As the decade neared its end, indication was that rock and roll was dying.

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link

rock is dead, long live 'n roll

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 16 April 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link

In 1959, I'm sure Don McLean agreed.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 16 April 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link

feel like that’s a major tenet of the whole rockabilly revival/drag race/vintage tattoo thing...rock didn’t recover from that plane crash until the arrival of social distortion or something

brimstead, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link

straw man ahoy

brimstead, Friday, 16 April 2021 22:33 (three years ago) link


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