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I'm a fan of this type of electronic music, but I haven't really explored a lot of his music in depth. Where is a good place to start?

crowhurst, Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:12 (three years ago) Permalink

Bladerunner soundtrack. I prefer one of the widely circulating expanded boot versions but the official 2CD edition (with a useless bonus disc of new material) is acceptable.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:22 (three years ago) Permalink

vangelis (xp)

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 January 2014 18:51 (three years ago) Permalink

I really love the Albedo 0.39 LP.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 4 January 2014 08:52 (three years ago) Permalink

the search function is your friend her on ilm, but fwiw i'd suggest beaubourg, see you later, heaven & hell & l'apocalypse des animaux, & ignacio.

massaman gai, Sunday, 5 January 2014 10:46 (three years ago) Permalink

as well as blade runner which is amazing, i've quite liked heaven & hell and china from him. i also picked up one of his other ones for like $2 at a video shop (it was called direct, i think?) but it was kind of boring.

dyl, Sunday, 5 January 2014 12:06 (three years ago) Permalink

POX: Vangelis

ogmor, Sunday, 5 January 2014 12:13 (three years ago) Permalink

^that stuff mp linked to is really cool

ogmor, Sunday, 5 January 2014 12:13 (three years ago) Permalink

INVISIBLE CONNECTIONS

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 5 January 2014 17:17 (three years ago) Permalink

Vangelis - Antarctica

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:31 (three years ago) Permalink

the search function is your friend her on ilm, but fwiw i'd suggest beaubourg, see you later, heaven & hell & l'apocalypse des animaux, & ignacio.

I really disagree with Beauborg, if there's one album that I would think will turn people off Vangelis it's that one. Heaven & Hell is a really good starting point IMO, it's more bombastic than almost everything else he's done but I think most people that try to get into Vangelis have some kind of prog background and that's probably the one that'll be the most familiar to those types. L'Apocalypse is maybe one of the most beautiful albums ever, it's totally flooring from start to finish. If you like his early period then Earth is pretty great too, what with the majestic "My Face in the Rain" and all.

I really love the Albedo 0.39 LP.

This one's really something but I prefer the followup Spiral which (IMO) is a lot more coherent and better developed.

frogbs, Monday, 6 January 2014 17:41 (three years ago) Permalink

opera sauvage
antarctica
l'apocalypse des animaux
el greco (this might actually be my favorite apart from BR)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq9UwkdvMcU

clouds, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:01 (three years ago) Permalink

yeh i guess beaubourg / invisible connections are only for fans of electroacoustic boffin lab-coat music or late period autechre.
there's a super boot on the internet somewhere w/ d. roussos singing "le course infinit" (vocal take on chariots of fire tune)& stina nordenstam doing the melt-tastic swoonfest of a b-side to "ask the mountains".

massaman gai, Monday, 6 January 2014 18:20 (three years ago) Permalink

I’ve not listened to Spiral, thanks frogbs I will check it out.

Chewshabadoo, Monday, 6 January 2014 22:08 (three years ago) Permalink

been rinsing out "invisible connections" since sparkle motion reminded me, it is SO much better than i remember it. all van's cheese is booted out & replaced by abstract blips & galactic reverb.
if yr really new to the billowing swathes of pitch wheel synth thing, then you might also want to check out terry riley's "shri camel" (eastern influenced classical synth ragas in just intonation), roedelius "tace!" (the more melodious half of cluster gets lush on this one. we still have the fucking-around-on-a-casio aspect of everything cluster (which is good), but plenty weird sytheticness to be had) oneohtrix point never - daniel lopatin's retro-futurist "vapourwave" new-age / noise call it what you will nice textures & atmospheres, struggles with development, plenty plangent sehnsucht, though. thomas köner (glacially slow synth / white noise washes only tangentially related to this sort of thing). brian eno - ambient #4 on land has plenty of those woozy gauzy hazy fugs, as does jon hassell's possible musics & surgeon.. & dream theory... & aki darbari java & if you like the idea of vangelis meeting the shaking ray levi's (jittery free-improv group) then you might enjoy humcrush (thomas stronen & stale storlokken) and i guess we should be steering you towards fennesz & fennesz' ryuichi sakamoto collabs. selected van worship in autechre, too "eutow", "maphive 6.1" etc see how you go

massaman gai, Friday, 10 January 2014 12:24 (three years ago) Permalink

most people that try to get into Vangelis have some kind of prog background

Oh really? I don't like "Heaven and Hell" either btw.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 10 January 2014 12:58 (three years ago) Permalink

oh, the whole of autechre's "envane" i'd forgotten about that

massaman gai, Friday, 10 January 2014 13:10 (three years ago) Permalink

I really love the Albedo 0.39 LP.

This one's really something but I prefer the followup Spiral which (IMO) is a lot more coherent and better developed.

― frogbs, 6. tammikuuta 2014 19:41

Totally agree with this... Albedo 0.39 has some lovely space music, but it alternates with boring prog workouts. Spiral is just cosmic synth gorgeousness all the way through, no prog there. Plus the bass sounds are much fuller on Spiral, Albedo often sounds kinda thin.

Tuomas, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:06 (three years ago) Permalink

I didn't come to Vangelis from a prog background either, I've liked his music ever since I was a kid, and I rediscovered it as a teen via trance/ambient and other electronic music that was inpired by him. But I do love Heaven & Hell; I can see how the whole concept is proggy, but IMO it lacks prog's worst parts, i.e. pointless musical complexity and instrumental bravuras/solos. Are there some actual rpog albums that would sound similar to H&H?

Tuomas, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:16 (three years ago) Permalink

Also, the second Jon & Vangelis album ("The Friends of Mr. Cairo") is half-brilliant; if you can manage Jon's falsetto, the titular tune, "I'll Find My Way Home", and "State of Independence" are all amazingly beautiful pieces of synth-pop, and the rest is not bad either. Definitely worth checking out, though the other two J&W albums are forgettable, IMO.

Tuomas, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:25 (three years ago) Permalink

"i'll find my way home" has the most fantastic floor-dropping away vertiginous wooze of a keys solo while the pigeon-street drums pioo pioopioopioo pioo pioo pioopioo pioo the lyrics are absolute cack but there's a conceptual tension release or some kind of juxtaposition between the conservative tosh that is the song itself & the event horizon of the black hole keyboard solo sucking you out of the airlock

massaman gai, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:31 (three years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard the Jon & Vangelis albums yet!! I like the individual songs when they pop up on last.fm but I've been wary of the project as a whole.

I can see how the whole concept is proggy, but IMO it lacks prog's worst parts, i.e. pointless musical complexity and instrumental bravuras/solos. Are there some actual rpog albums that would sound similar to H&H?

Hard to think of one offhand, mostly because its so predominately instrumental. It's almost like a Mike Oldfield album with synths instead of guitars.

frogbs, Friday, 10 January 2014 15:24 (three years ago) Permalink

"state of independence" rules and the donna summer version is paramount

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPlNrP9B2Zs

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 10 January 2014 18:38 (three years ago) Permalink

No way. "Short Stories" is a wonderful J & V album. Vangelis goes thru an impressive tonal palette on his CS-80 while Jon improvises some of his most wigged out lyrics. The entire thing supposedly improvised. Plus it includes the sublime "I Hear You Now". To my ears this one doesn't have any of the cheese of subsequent J & V outings.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 January 2014 19:42 (three years ago) Permalink

I'll never forgive Vangelis for ruining my best pair of jeans. Perfect fitting vintage 517s. Intro to L'Apocalypse Des Animaux took hold of me and inspired me to do this kind of cosmic hillbilly dance, like something from that all-primates production of SEven Brides for Seven Brothers. I dropped into a squat and RIIIIP! You don't just find vintage 517s like that every day, Papathanassiou!

andrew m., Friday, 10 January 2014 20:20 (three years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Just looked up her Wikipedia entry, there is no source for this quote but I hope it's real:"I never won an Oscar... and the Oscars never won Irene Papas".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 20 June 2014 14:31 (three years ago) Permalink

Just got Soil Festivities and it's really, really great.

shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 June 2014 17:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Looked for Jon & Vangelis - Page Of Life, there are two versions, one version with different tracklist and some alternate versions Anderson put out later in the 90s without the consent of Vangelis, which seems to have soured their relationship a bit.

Then I just discovered Vangelis did loads of remasters himself which were released last year. Page of Life is the original version with a bonus track...
"features a rare and sought after bonus track, "Sing with Your Eyes", released only as part of the highly limited and promotional "Wisdom Chain" CD-Single in 1991. It also includes a booklet that restores the original album artwork."

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 20 June 2014 18:09 (three years ago) Permalink

Remastered Chariots Of Fire is gorgeous

shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 June 2014 18:49 (three years ago) Permalink

The City is my favorite vangelis record

ciderpress, Friday, 20 June 2014 19:11 (three years ago) Permalink

I wonder about those remasters... the original CDs sound pretty good. Well, most of them.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:28 (three years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't be surprised if the remasters are fucked with in some way, vangelis is notoriously contrarian and fidgety about his releases right? EG blade runner. don't know the OG chariots of fire record so can't say in what ways the remaster might be diff.

shameless pureyors of slop-on-plate (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 June 2014 19:34 (three years ago) Permalink

They are super hot EQ wise. Sound very different from the originals to me.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 20 June 2014 22:28 (three years ago) Permalink

Both albums with Irene Papas are fantastic.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 20 June 2014 22:31 (three years ago) Permalink

Out of curiosity, I bought the remaster of the first Irene Papas album, and it sounds like the sound level of the vocals on it is significantly lower than level of the synths/etc, to a distracting degree. I haven't noticed this with the earlier CD version of Odes (with the song titles in French) that I have. Am I imagining this, or has Vangelis really tweaked the remaster so radically? I was considering of buying the remaster of the second Papas LP (since I don't have it any format), but now I'm not so sure whether I should try to track the original CD version of it instead.

Tuomas, Saturday, 21 June 2014 16:11 (three years ago) Permalink

I'd play it safe and seek out the original cd. Vinyl is tricky with Vangelis as well: I own original US pressings of most of his albums and they sound fine. But certain things like "La Fete Sauvage" ( recently restored and showing right now in French theatres, btw!) which I own on European pressings are mastered poorly and on really cheap, thin vinyl. Really confusing.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 21 June 2014 17:07 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

so, last week I found mike oldfields, TB2 (very enjoyable), and today, its Voices by Vangelis .

looks like a new age groove at mine for a while.

mark e, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 12:11 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTn8PzDwH9c

despite the presence of paul young this album has turned out to be totally worthy for this track alone.

mark e, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 21:08 (one year ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

bona fide sampled drum break at 5 mins in the voices track posted by mark e above totally slays

spacemindy, Sunday, 8 May 2016 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

1974 TV show. Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGCRwTOo05s

Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZKJ6zkhpE0

Jeff W, Monday, 1 August 2016 19:55 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Those aren't loading. Is it this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EreNUTCgjlc&ebc=ANyPxKq4101opZnrsp_ddiB8efZo8oE9yqBkPX23LKMVzePiRi2rxoxQBVPwr-m-G0wfmySygbQf0ef_sl4FJjsQV2RhKX-KVw&time_continue=1176

RARE FOOTAGE OF VANGELIS SHREDDING ON A SYNTH IN THE ’70S
Join Vangelis on an astral voyage in this rare footage of an epic ’70s television production.

Get those VPNs ready, Germany, because this is one super psychedelic trip that you definitely won’t want to miss. This video of Meistersynthesist Vangelis shredding on ’70s television has everything you need as far as “cosmic” is concerned: percussionists floating among acid-soaked green screens, unbuttoned shirts and necklaces and thousands and thousands of dollars of rare synthesizers. It culminates in a moment of sheer vibe when Vangelis and his live performance rig go soaring with an eagle. See, this is the kind of stuff GEMA doesn’t want you to see.


http://www.electronicbeats.net/feed/watch-super-rare-footage-of-vangelis-shredding-synth/

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 14 August 2016 12:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Rosetta, his first new studio album since 1998's El Greco came out on September 30th, and has a web site promoting it where you can, uh, play Vangelis Asteroids:

http://www.vangelisrosetta.com/

Poke around on Youtube to easily find the entire album available for listening... so far it's nice and spacey. Keep hearing bits from older work, wonder if it's intentional or just Vangelis doing his thing?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 27 October 2016 04:10 (eight months ago) Permalink

He's always been recycling his own stuff... Most notably, the germ of that famous Chariots of Fire theme can already be heard on Heaven and Hell.

Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 06:26 (eight months ago) Permalink

"on top of old smokey"

massaman gai, Thursday, 27 October 2016 07:24 (eight months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

New album is nice, but sounds very poorly mixed/mastered.

I did just discover the Irene Papas collab Odes and I'm floored.... this is so gorgeous! And he produced this right around the peak of his career imho. What a gem

octobeard, Sunday, 22 January 2017 03:07 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah, Little Orange Tree from Odes is about the most gorgeous song ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VdbwWEbSQ

erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 22 January 2017 21:58 (five months ago) Permalink

Has been know to bring a tear or three to my eye.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:00 (five months ago) Permalink

That's interesting about the mastering of the new album, because as I mentioned upthread, I bought the remaster of "Odes", and the sound on it is pretty awful compared to the original CD release, sounds like everything except Papas' vocals have been cranked up way higher. And over at Amazon some people are complaining about the remaster of Heaven & Hell, saying that the sound has been radically altered there too.

Since, according to credits, the remastering has been directed by Vangelis himself, I wonder if something's up with his hearing? Or has he just decided the albums should sound different?

I decided to order the remastered Albedo 0.39 to see if there's notable difference for better or worse, because IMO that album has always had a bit of a thin sound that I've attributed to '80s CD mastering practices. Will report to this thread how the remaster sounds compared to the original.

Tuomas, Monday, 23 January 2017 07:32 (five months ago) Permalink

Oh, and the other Irene Papas / Vangelis collab, Rapsodies, is pretty great too, a bit more moody and experimental than Odes IIRC. Well worth checking out, though maybe try to find the original release instead of the remastered one, if the remaster sounds as bad as on the first album.

Tuomas, Monday, 23 January 2017 07:38 (five months ago) Permalink

Thanks for the caution. There's a Jon & Vangelis remaster I wanted (I don't have the original) because it has bonus tracks of difficult to find songs but I just might buy both versions.

I tend to take these flawed remaster warnings with a pinch of salt but you've convinced me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 January 2017 12:54 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm not claiming I have any sort of golden ears, so you should take it with a pinch of salt. Over at Discogs.com someone else is complaining about the same thing as me:

Sopromat January 10, 2013
referencing Odes, CD, Album, RE, RM, 06025 1720633 5
This is the worst remaster of Vangelis I ever heard. In fact, this is even not a remaster in my understanding of this word - they just applied a couple of poor audio filters, that's all. And the sound became worser, lost it's original clarity, Irene's voice "drowned" in the music...

But someone else is saying this:

curtisryan9 January 20, 2017
referencing Odes, CD, Album, RE, RM, 06025 1720633 5
I actually find this is a good remaster, its not as loud as the original CD and sounds more warmer, especially the synth on track 2. Compared to the original CD, id say this is pretty much better than the first pressing. Same goes for Rhapsodies by Irene Papas and Vangelis.

Tuomas, Monday, 23 January 2017 13:04 (five months ago) Permalink

As I said upthread Vangelis pressings vary in quality with European pressings often sounding the worst to my ears. However, my og French pressings of both Pappas collabs sound rich and deep. Grabbed those for almost nothing in a bookshop sale a couple of years ago.

Vangelis on CD usually not great : tinny, harsh. And this goes back to the first cd releases. I will say, though, that I loved his stuff on the o g US cassette releases. It could just be nostalgia but I find it sounds amazing.

Remind me to tell how I got a hold of a demo cassette of his Spiral recording sessions. The cassette belings to a friend so I've never posted it on the internet but it's a great fly-on-the-wall moment into his process.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 23 January 2017 14:02 (five months ago) Permalink

Worser? More warmer? Which is it?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 15:26 (five months ago) Permalink

thanks for the callout on Odes. I downloaded it from a place and I'm just finishing my first listen. This might actually be one of the best Vangelis records! I'm in hog heaven.

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 17:29 (five months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Fun little bit of trivia... Arianna Stassinopoulos is credited with "writing and arrangement" on Odes... that's Arianna Huffington!

erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, 14 April 2017 16:52 (three months ago) Permalink

Whatttt

iris marduk (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 April 2017 21:41 (three months ago) Permalink

Yeah, is that real?!?

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 15 April 2017 00:59 (three months ago) Permalink

Looks like -- here's an archival article from 1994:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/rear-window-arianna-stassinopoulos-the-siren-of-the-seventies-1443305.html


FOR A dozen heady years, everything she wished for was in Britain. She had fame; she was controversial; she was admired by distinguished old men and escorted by ambitious young ones. There were books, lectures and after-dinner speeches; there were appearances on Any Questions and Face the Music. There was a libel action against Private Eye. There was even her own chat show.

'I want to carry on living in this country,' she declared in the full flush of her success. But then she saw America, and left.

To see her again last week, prodding her wealthy Texan husband, Michael Huffington, through a spectacularly expensive US Senate election campaign, was to be transported back in time. For Arianna Stassinopoulos is an emblem of Britain in the 1970s to rival Nationwide and the Austin Allegro.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 April 2017 01:03 (three months ago) Permalink

Yep, sure seems like her. Crazy. Also, a nice excuse to head down the rabbit hole reading much of that biography on Google Books. Some nice detail in there about his work on Chariots and Blade Runner and his posture toward releasing the material commercially.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 15 April 2017 12:51 (three months ago) Permalink


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