Rolling Metal Thread 2014

Thought it was time it got its own thread Babymetal J-pop or Metal?

well after the topic had died down you mean?

Maybe it's a poll...

I think a lot of ilm who dont read this thread might be interested in it plus there's an article in the observer/guardian and they were in this weeks Kerrang.

Yeah, I'm liking Heritage a lot. Excited to hear the new album.

"Boleskine House" is so good. I guess I need to listen to Monotheist and the other Triptykon album finally.

Today in metal bands the Rolling Metal Thread denizens are too cool to care about news: Arch Enemy lead vocalist and manager Angela Gossow will be handing the microphone to Alissa White-Gluz, formerly of The Agonist (and a Nightwish touring backup singer), but continuing to manage the band. No word yet on who will be singing on the band's next studio album, due out in June.

I like Arch Enemy. Wages of Sin was probably the first real metal CD I ever bought.

ha, I have fuckin loved that band since 2002 though I feel like it got to diminishing returns after a while. does Alissa death-growl or is it a new thing? Nightwish is a long way from the ARch Enemy I knew. Sorry about your "things the metal thread is too cool to care about" strawman better luck with the next one though!

Has her voice gone then? Or just not wanting to tour?

Well I know you, me, Adrien and Jeff T. are uncool enough to love Arch Enemy, aero, but we're all gonna be subject to the withering judgment of SeanWayne any minute now...

damn that sean having an opinion on a message board!

This sucks – Angela was one of the best frontmen in metal, regardless of gender. She commanded the stage like no one else and her voice was a force unto itself.

I care, definitely. Alissa's a really good frontwoman but was in a terrible band, and should do a tremendous job in this new role. She's a very talented singer too, but I doubt she'll bring that to the band. But yes, Angela will be missed for sure.

Actually, if this is the catalyst for AE to go in a more melodic/power-thrash direction, it wouldn't be a huge leap (their songs have always verged on catchy) and might be brilliant.

Personally, I'd love it. Not counting on it, but yes, I'm sort of hoping.

Yeah, some clean singing might bring in some new dynamics that have been missing from the last few records.

yeah, I would honestly prefer it myself

hope I'm uncool enough to say that

We are posting on a metal thread on ILM, I think our starting status is uncool.

yeah I think melodic vox would be a good move - I stopped following Arch Enemy when it was basically "ok, well, I know what you do and I'm pretty sure I've got enough of it," this could take them somewhere

Well I know you, me, Adrien and Jeff T. are uncool enough to love Arch Enemy, aero, but we're all gonna be subject to the withering judgment of SeanWayne any minute now...

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don't you only listen to jazz now or something?

the new Lord Symphony is kinda nifty - it's power metal but with some super interesting melodic stuff going on - Metallium says they mix stuff with "traditional Indonesian music," I'm not sure that's what I'm hearing yet - the scales sound identifiably western as of the third song on their new one, but they do sound different from yr average triumphant-major/ominous-minor power metal deal - a pretty distinct take on soaring-vox tweedle-tweedle power metal., anyway some of the synths & guitar figures are kinda Arcturus-y? not sure how much I can really soak up of this though, it's like trying to listen to a whole Angra album

That news about the new Opeth has me really excited, I loved Heritage, even though it means Opeth can't even be considered a metal band anymore. They're basically a prog band, which is just fine with me.

I miss metal Opeth. Hoping dude emerges on the other side of the prog era (which I dig just fine) and ends up using it to inform something uber-brutal again.

Phil McSorley quit Cobalt. Bummer.

damn

really? that's the end of cobalt i guess

Did Opeth ever do anything that was really uber-brutal?

Yeah, I can't imagine Cobalt continuing. It was a hell of a run. Gin is a classic.

Did Opeth ever do anything that was really uber-brutal?

I never much liked Opeth. But I love Cobalt.

I am late, as always, but man this Grave Miasma album from last year is great. I was never a huge fan of Incantation/Immolation but I like the way the DNA of their sound has mutated in so many death metal bands these days...

just got round to an album by this Portland band SHROUD OF THE HERETIC which is bandcampable here and am really digging it. super weird Portal/Negative Plane style death metal with Winter-style slow bits and a strong blackened vibe

Speaking of Portland bands, I saw the body tonight in Philly at long last. Show was quick, but very intense. Great band, glad I finally got to see them live. The only bummer was that they didn't have their forthcoming album yet to sell.

SHROUD OF THE HERETIC

Wow, this is nasty stuff and I love it.

I am curious what the rumors are about Angela Gossow leaving Arch Enemy... Is her voice shot? Is she and Michael Amott still a couple? Or is it really a matter of wanting to settle down as the press release states?

The new song's good, nothing particularly bold, but catchy. No singing from Alissa, but she steps up her harsh vox considerably.

http://vk.com/video21594630_167708781?hash=42491cd715ebf892

Finally listened to the full eight-minute demo "Lords of Summer" last night and, while the lyrics are literally the worst Metallica has ever written (and, yes, I am including St. Anger lyrics), it's not that bad. The second half of the guitar solo is pretty great actually.

every fucking time there's a new Metallica I want to believe it's going to be good

It's not awful, but I am cutting a lot of slack since its just a demo version (the vocals, in particular, sound mighty rough).

oh ha. by the time they send it to their How Not To Master A Record dude it'll sound like absolute trash

Very likely, I won't argue that point. Basically it wasn't as terrible as a 2014 Metallica song called "Lords of Summer" would lead me to believe (aside from the lyrics).

at this point, every time there's a new metallica I just want a funny dysfunctional band therapy movie to go along with it

since my first two metallica albums were the black album and load (which was curiously enough sufficient to make me stop buying any later ones), at roughly the customary times in the mid-90s, i have never, ever, ever had any wishes about any new metallica records, it's healthy, i like it

the last album was utter shite yet because it was still better than st minger it shows how bad that album (and reload) really was

at this point it doesnt matter how shite a metallica album is
A)it will still sell more than anything that makes a magazine EOY list
B) fans/rock critic fans will still give it the old ac/dc/rem "return to form" bullshit like with death magnetic because nit even metallica could make another album as bad as St Anger.

I liked Death Magnetic a lot (still do) and can mount a solid defense for St. Anger. I feel like a lot of people have turned hating Metallica into a sport, and the vitriol is largely undeserved. Oh, they don't sound like 1986 anymore? Well, go listen to Fueled By Fire (who are actually really good) or Havok or Violator or Bonded By Blood if that's all you want out of life.

I too am always hopeful for a Metallica returning to former glory... its just not gonna happen.. Hetfield can where a vest with patches all day and try and look like he's getting back to their roots, but money changes you. Unless the go completely broke, and have to really struggle, there is no way they will ever be able to write and put out proper angst filled, pissed off real from the heart music. As you all know, this was a band that was the absolute benchmark for metal. It was always a big deal when a new record would come out.. the Black record was the last record i got excited about, and when the video for Enter Sandcrab premiered on the MTV, me and my friends looked at each other and though, what the fuck happened.. Hetfield is singing?!?!?! fuck this!!

st anger : the dvd version is fucking great ..